/vr/ - Retro Games

n64 is the only console that I would get because of the emulators. they just suck.

BAZINGA!

>>4518073
honestly you can fix like 90% of the n64 library by using the glide plugin
but there will always be very minor differences that make owning a n64 flashcart worth it

>>4518126
This is exactly why I have an EverDrive 64.

saturn emulation is pretty bad too

Guardian heroes crashes on the first level and liquid kids runs at a slow framerate

>>4518139
play on mednafen

>>4518073
>tfw being a retard who can't into simple instructions

>>4518073
>>4518424
oh, and you can unvazeline too

>>4518425
looks like shit now

>>4518492
It looked like shit before too
But it's crisp shit instead of blurry shit now

>>4518424
>>4518425
>10201x858
That's a weird resolution for a 240p game.

>>4518494
It's not crisp. It's just pixelly with sharp edges. Sharp =/= crisp.

>>4518498
Let the kids live their fantasy. He's not gonna use an SD screen anyway.

Does Wonder Project J2 still crash at the end on N64 emulators?

>>4518505

I believe it worked with the latest git build of Project64

>>4518505
works just fine

>>4518525
>>4518526
It works, but crashes at the end of the game.
I tried pj64's plugin a few months ago if that's what you mean.

>>4518425
>>4518424
>razor sharp fifth gen polygons

why do you prefer this.

>>4518540
He isn't even displaying the game at the proper resolution. He doesn't care.

>>4518540
>>4518547
did that because OP pic was high rez
I didnt even play N64 in emulator or physical since I don't like the system.
I downloaded an emu and plugins in 3 min just to show that OP is spewing BS again.
Almost any time somneone brings up an emulation bug or something, it turns out that it was fixed years ago.

>>4518559
>it turns out that it was fixed years ago.
And then another new glitch appears.
N64 emulation is very unstable. Feels like a Jenga tower. You fix some things, then fuck up some others.
It's still playable, but far from accurate.

>>4518126
>Glide
Using that is what causes the graphics glitch.

https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-video-glide64mk2/issues/81

>>4518540
Better than the alternative.

>>4518118
this. i bought an everdrive64 JUST because n64 emultion sucks

>>4519168
1. no

2. don't play this ugly af game, then.

>>4519280
Are you trying to imply this is an ugly game? Nothing will beat the feeling of chill that it gives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkSDVeJIlWM

looks good to me

>>4519282
Lol it warps you because Rare are incompetent programmers and shipped the game out in a buggy state. Fucking Bongs can't do anything right.

>>4519307
>whyyyy didn't rare code with muh emulator in mind!

>>4519306
What plugin are you using?

>>4519319
The one and only angrylion

I'm not sure which are more disgusting: people that emulate or people that play using composite cables.

>>4518073
Get on my level, scrub.

>>4519445
what filter you using bro

>>4518073
>using shitty redundant plugins
That was fixed ages ago anyway.
Also you're not using angrylion so you get what you deserve.
>>4518139
Fuck off idiot. Those work in both SSF and mednafen.

>>4519306
Plugin setup?

>>4519306
>>4519346
Can you upload a compiled version of Angrylion?
Or better yet whole emu directory? Visual studio required to compile it bugs out on my pc for some reason and crashes.

>>4519168
The scaling is all wrong here

>>4518073
>>4518139
What's up with all the misinformation about N64 and Saturn emulation are these just hardwarefag false flaggers or what? Mednafen for Saturn and Angrylion / GlideN64 for N64 all work amazingly well despite higj system requirements sometimes

>>4519572
>The scaling is all wrong here
1 - The scaling was weird in the original image.
2 - You're missing the point.

>>4519532
>>4519551

It's very simple. Just download retroarch, use the core updater to get the core, then set the plugins to gfx plugin=angrylion and rsp plugin=cxd4. Restart

>>4519551
https://s3.amazonaws.com/m64p/m64p/mupen64plus-GLideN64-linux64.zip

this zip should have the latest angrylion plugin

>>4519635
thank you

>>4519578
1. Not sure what you mean there. That screenshot was definitely not interger scaled and not how the game should look on real hardware at all, just look at all those duplicated / missing pixels in the HUD text

2. Then by all means what is the point? I'm just pointing out that people love to come on this and echo these consoles have terrible emulation, when they actually have emulators / plugins that are much more accurate and compatible than ever before and these people are just selectively ignoring them for these shitpost threads or just plain too stupid to lrn 2 emu

POORLY


CODED

>>4519757
1 - Look at the hud in >>4518425 I just downscaled it to 240p back up to 1440p.
2 - The point is HD looks better than the original res. Even for 5th gen.

My post had nothing to do with emulator accuracy.

>>4519635
GO FUCK YOURSELF!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izn2_Fyvs_o

>>4519809
that's some smooth emulation

>>4519778
BAZINGA!

>>4519816
silky smooth 1fps

>>4519809
how do you emulate something that fucking bad? I just loaded up mine and it was nice and smooth.

>>4519903
To be fair this is two years ago. When angrylion first came out it ran like shit for me too but then the update for multithreaded support came it and made it much more playable

>>4519864
Ooh are we talking about Goldeneye again?

>>4519572
>What's up with all the misinformation about N64 and Saturn emulation are these just hardwarefag false flaggers or what?
it's just varying amounts of stupidity plus a lot of weird mitigating factors

people will say Saturn emulation is shit because
>they don't feel like using a virtual drive to use SSF
>they don't have a computer strong enough to use Mednafen
>the ISOs they downloaded won't work for any number of reasons

people will say N64 emulation is shit because
>a lot of the emulation is plugin based and PJ64's stability seems to get worse and worse with every update. malware, crashes out the ass
>when people run into these problems and realize they don't even have the original controller to play the games with, they hate it even more. nothing is worse than playing an N64 game on a different controller, believe me

My opinion is that Saturn emulation is in a way better state of affairs than N64 is. Way less nonsense involved. The entire N64 scene would have drop the ego-nonsense and become one collective fuckwad if they want to get anything accomplished.

n64 shitty emulation got put on notice for the whole world to see while saturn flies under the radar.

>>4520072
Really speaks volumes about the popularity of the Saturn around the world.

>>4520072
I have yet to find a game that doesn't work on mednafen

>>4520093
I'm assuming you haven't seen the Japanese version of big bang theory?

>>4520101
work as in it runs, or work as in it actually doesn't have any inacurracies?

>>4520101
you can thank me for getting primal rage japanese fixed

>>4520104
>I'm assuming you haven't seen the Japanese version of big bang theory?
No I haven't. Are you saying they changed some dialogue around for their region or something? Yeah, that's not too surprising

>>4520104
BANZAIGA

>>4520115
yes. They actually are playing sonic jam on an emulator instead.

>>4520116
ZAIBATSU

>>4518073
angrylion

indy and the infernal machine doesn't work at all

Scrub question: why is Intellivision emulation so poor?

>>4520996
Because there is no good way to emulate a 16 way disc and 15 buttons.

Parallel or Mupen64? Which one is the best?

>>4521164
Mupen

>>4521225
Why?

>>4521164
Parallel if your cpu can do the Angrylion renderer it's the most accurate

Stupid question alert.

I emulate old games on a raspberry pi but have never tried n64. Is there any point? I'd only play a couple of games since I didn't have one as a kid and hence no ' nostalgia bug' but I'd like to try Mario 64 at least. Should I just do it on my computer instead?

>>4522175
do both and tell us how the pi performs

>>4518073
>Have two N64's I got for dirt cheap before they rocketed in price
>Have all the games I give a shit about on the system

Feels pretty good man I must admit.

Also can I just give props to how sturdy the 64 is? Unless you abuse the everloving shit out of the things they are nigh indestructible. Just really solid, simple construction.

>>4520996

the only way to emulate intellivision games accuratly is to emulate the compilation games on ps2 and DS.

though games like Utopia is multiplayer only in the ds version, despite it being a singleplayer only game they could of just implemented both controllers on the touch screen

>>4521141
I dunno, is an analog stick and a numpad really such a bad way to go about it?

If Nintendo released an N64 Classic, do you think it would be running a proper emulator with broad compatibility or would Ninty's emulation be just as much of a hack job as the shit we're currently using?

>>4522458
>would Ninty's emulation be just as much of a hack job as the shit we're currently using?
Depends how much effort they put in. They'd have access to enough classified documents as to create a perfect emulator if they gave a fuck.

>>4522458
How possible would it be to reverse engineer it and extract the code, considering they are still using ARM Cortex

>>4522458

Hack job for sure, same as the Wii. They'd just get the bare minimum working that the games need. They probably don't have the time or resources to put to building something decent. It'd still be an improvement over similar devices though.

>>4522228
So I've tried on my pi. I'm currently playing Paper Mario - the cutscreens are laggy but actual gameplay is fine. That's acceptable for me. I'll try other games at a later date.

>>4519778
>my parents fucking paused the TV, called me, and told me to come over and see the scene
>I don't even watch TBBT

>>4523074
the sad state of n64 emulation is a unique phenomenon

>>4522458
Bare minimum job I assume. They will likely only have like 10 or less games on it and charge $99.99. They don't give a fuck cos it will still print money

>>4522458
N64 had a proprietary co-processor that I don't think anybody makes anymore. Maybe Sony could since I think that the Cell was similar but Nintendo would never be beholden to it.

>emulate South Park 64
>use cheats
>still can't beat that god damn robot boss

>>4519312
Emulator aside there was problems with this game on a real n64 too. They had certain bugs that only wouldn't appear if the expansion pack was used which is why they were packaged together.

Why does N64 emulation suck so hard and why isn't it getting better?

>>4523074
>Sister recorded that, and a part where he rattles off real videogame names and invited me over just to see it.

>>4519307
Doesn't do it on N64
>>4523434
You cant actually boot the game without the expansion pak

>>4519372
many games are designed with the effects of composite cables in mind

>>4523643
It doesn't and it is. Do your research, GlideN64 and Angrylion have both been making really good improvements this year

>>4523683
how has angrylion changed? last i checked it was the closest to perfect looking but the framerate was unplayable. mupen64 through retroarch with the 3dfx shader which emulats that effect i dont know how tto describe in quake 1 and n64 games is pretty damn close though

i feel like the general view of n64 emulation is really outdated because people don't know about the glide plugin. it's wayyy better than it was like 4 yrs ago

>>4523713
the glide plugin has been around since the dawn of time

>>4523713
Yes this year they updated Angrylion to properly utilize multithreaded CPU's so it's much better, most games run fullspeed the entire time on my mid range Intel i5 and the slowdowns I do encounter are normally negligable. Banjo Tooie and Pilotwings run slower for me than I'd like but most of the library feels nearly perfect at this point. Also they just recently updated to a new full release of GlideN64 (3.0) that fixes some of the factor 5 games and F Zero reflections and some other visual effects like that and improves performance. It's actually been a solid year for N64 emulation

>>4523718
Yeah but Glide is terrible compared to GlideN64. These plugin names being so similar is part of why so many people who try to get into N64 emulation get thrown off by misinformation and think it's still trash

>>4523718
>>4523724
you're right I should have said gliden64
>>4523719
cool, my CPU's pretty good so I'll have to give angrylion another go

How can I play the following games on my teh PC:

Mischief Makers
Rogue Squadron
Perfect Dark
Bomberman 64
StarFox 64

>>4524252
Good way: compile Mupen, Get GlideN64 or new version of Angrylion
Meh way: >>4519617


IIRC with some tinkering Mupen can allow playing Perfect Dark with decent mouse controlls too.

>>4524260
nothing meh about dynamic rate contorl

>>4523095
>Maybe Sony could since I think that the Cell was similar
Nah the RCP is pretty different to Cell. It’s actually more similar to non-unified shader GPU like the PS3’s RSX, except like extremely paired down.

>>4518565
>N64 emulation is very unstable.

No it isn't , you just suck at using N64 emulators and should stick with basic 8-bit or 16-bit emulation as it's easier for your kind.

>>4520994
That's one game among how many games?

I am sure you can find a problematic game for every systems (GB, NES, SNES, GEN, etc)

>>4518073
Sure.

As memey as it is, I have been playing Goldfinger (the GE level pack based on [what a twist] Goldfinger) and it's pretty fun.

>>4524260
I just discovered m64p yesterday
http://www.emu-france.com/news/54165-consoles-de-salon-m64p-2018-01-10/

RE2 and even Body Harvest worked flawlessly, thought I'd never see this day come.

>>4524968
I really hope Saturn would get something like this some day.

>>4524968
tried Pilotwings 64 and Star wars EP1 Racer today. They were both lagging like crazy but everything looked very close to the original and no glitches. Might run better if you have a fast processor.

>>4524968
Not quite yet, walk behind the far desk where you pickup the bullets. The clipping or z order is wrong.

>>4524968
Tried to load a few games but they just didn't boot :/

How fucking poor do you have to be not to afford a few games you want to play, let alone a console and a flash cart? All time you spend fucking with emulators, you could spend a few extra hours at work and have a flawless gaming experience for the rest of your life. People are so fucking retarded.

>>4518424
>blurry 2d elements with messed up edges

>>4526557
NEETS / College students who have a laptop

>>4526557
Everdrives are expensive. I'm considering one thanks to my new job, though.

Are there any games on that fucker that just straight up don't work?

>>4525663
>>4526554
maybe i should have mentioned you have to switch to angrylion in the video settings

>>4526557
Why should I pay somebody who isn't Nintendo for a game? That should be illegal, and actually is illegal in Japan, where the N64 was made

>>4526557
the biggest hurdle for me is the CRT, i can't find a good one in the shithole i live in and yea im really poor.

>>4526920
Stop over spending.

Unless you have no job and live at your parents an everdrive should be easily attainable. Cut back on whatever it is you do that makes you poor and save some damn money, faggot.

>>4526945
i have anime reaction images too you jerk

>>4526793
You need an Everdrive 64 v3 to play Pokémon Stadium 2 and Doubutsu no Mori(N64 Animal Crossing) due to it's real time clock. There might also be a few obscure titles I'm missing here.

If you care about neither of these games you can get the v2.5, which is cheaper. Make sure you have an Expansion Pak to play those 64DD cartridge conversions, being able to play F-Zero X with the Expansion Kit is the #1 reason to get the ED64, at least in my opinion.

>>4526947
Go suck on your moms dick.

>>4526947
Your dads got a loose vagina boi pucci

>>4526967
I might just go ahead and get the v3, just because.

Thanks, my dude.

>>4519480
legend of bismuth

>>4520064
>>when people run into these problems and realize they don't even have the original controller to play the games with, they hate it even more. nothing is worse than playing an N64 game on a different controller, believe me

But there not wrong. With Dolphin atleast the c stick is a tiny analog stick. N64 controller had arrows so its really difficult to get a proper configuration.

>>4521164
What do you wanna play? For me Mario Tennis doesnt run at all on Parallel and it runs like shit on mupen. So I use PJ64. It can actually run on WINE on linux.

>>4530184
runs fine on parallel

>>4532150
Bet it’s still missing half of the effects

>>4532280
what effects?

>>4518540
>>4518497
Looks great on a CRT.

>>4532283
Game has a lot of subtle effects like sunlight simulation and heat distortion on power balls

>>4518121
SPAGINJE!

>>4519282
>And in the secret shadows of the soul of men, there you could still find Donkey Kong

>>4533054
ZAS, EN TODA LA BOCA
(Spanish for: (Onomatopeia), right in the mouth
Also Spanish for: Cringe)

>>4530179
Did you seriously just refer to the Gamecube as the Dolphin?

>>4518118
but.... the games just suck too