/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4512989
anything with infinite continues should be disqualified immediately

>>4512996
You know you can always limit yourself to a single credit

>>4512989
Holy Diver is up there of course if we count the Famicom

Not THE hardest, but the first megami tensei is pretty brutal to play now just because of how damn archaic it is

>>4513003
I can also pretend I've been paralyzed from the neck down and have a hard time playing Kirby with only my face.

Why are these threads always about NES games? How come no one ever wants to know the hardest PS1 game? Or the hardest Virtual Boy game? What gives????

>>4513040
Did you play the second loop Dream Land 1? Shit's brutal.

>>4513052
More people know about hard NES games I guess. With more discussion about them ignorant people learn about them and continue the discussion."retarded millenial newfags watching numale youtube celebs" as the lingo goes
By all means make a thread please. I don't know shit about ps1 games and I'd love to learn what's hard or at least considered hard on the platform

This gets my vote but to mention runner ups I rarely see mentioned try Exodus and Joshua.

>>4512989

Ikari Warriors, Q-Bert, and Arkanoid

also, I'd say NG1 is harder than 2 or 3.

I'm not sure it is strictly an NES game, but The Immortal. Pretty damn cyrptic, took me years to figure out.

>>4512989


Double Dragon III. One life to get through the game. (with a couple extra characters you can acquire later) No continues.

>>4513052
Somehow it came accepted that the NES was the height of difficulty.

>>4512989
Surfer isn't even the hardest shmup. That's probably Zanac. Which is tougher than any of those except maybe Japanese GnG. What's the deal with that one?

>>4512989 (OP)
Surfer isn't even the hardest shmup. That's probably Gun Nac on it's highest difficulty with suicide bullets turned on.

What's the deal with japanese GnG?

What's the hardest NES game in terms of adventure rather than action (e.g., solving puzzles in order to progress). Stuff that you'd have to check a faq for. I consider myself good at action games but completely shit at figuring out most adventure games.

>>4514289
I heard Shadowgate but I never actually played any of these very much.

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=6857.0;wap2

>>4512989
TMNT 1 was pretty hard.

Kino.

>>4514185
You get one continue for the final two stages. Double Dragon III's difficulty is tough, but a bit overrated.

>>4513227
>also, I'd say NG1 is harder than 2 or 3.
Ninja Gaiden III has limited continues and an unavoidable time limit in one of the final stages that makes it impossible to do a no-miss.

>>4513052
The only tough Saturn games I know of are Radiant Silvergun and Battle Garegga, both shmups.

>>4514784
You need to go back >>>/tv/

>>4514819
lol, I don't browse /tv/. I'll go back anyway though.

>>4514815
I figured they would be arcade ports. Didn't Saturn also get a Gradius 3 port in one of the collections?

>>4514282
But Gun Mac on easiest difficulty with suicide bullets turned off is easier than Silver Surfer :^)

>>4514289
Castlevania 2 and you guys know it

>>4514904
its really easy when you know what to do

>>4514901
>Gun Mac
Is this the burger version?

>>4512996
>anything with infinite continues should be disqualified immediately
faggot

>>4515589
you make a good point.

>>4513052

PS1 triggers the N64 boys

>>4513052
AVGN
its crazy how many people who are old enough still follow e celebs

>>4513620
That orc thing looks like his grabbing his cock

>>4512989
Summer Carnival 92 Recca

>>4512989
why is JP Ghosts and Goblins specific as opposed to any other version? Was it more difficult than the rest?

>>4513052
NES has a long-standing reputation for difficulty. Helps that it's also a very famous system.

>>4515758
No continues.

>>4514926
Isn't that most adventure games though?

Or hell, most games are easy when you know what to do. The only games that get to be hard then are extremely hard execution games, something like F-Zero GX or high-level fighting games.

>>4515771
There are adventure games with randomized puzzles and such, but I wouldn't know of any on NES

>>4513065
Bayou Billy for sure.
Crazy hard even by old school standards

>>4512989
Fester's Quest

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Both Zeldas are pretty hard, too

>>4515724
hehe

>>4515869
>randomized puzzles

How does that work?

>>4516031
When did this TMNT and Zelda 1 and 2 are hard meme start. Unless you were some kind of droolcup wearing moron you can beat all three.

>>4516795
E-celebs that are droolcup wearing morons with fans that don't play the games.

>>4512989

>Castlevania 3
Challenging but not overly hard.

>Silver Surfer
Does not belong in this list. I played it for the Follin soundtrack and yes it kicked my butt until I learned how it worked... then two hours later I had beaten it. Once you get powerups and know how the game works it's only mildly difficult.

>Battletoads
This is a contender yes. But there's probably something harder.

>>4516795

TMNT is fairly difficult compared to other NES games; anybody who plays it can see this. But yeah it doesn't really belong in this thread. It's a little bit unfair at that one point near the end, but otherwise its challenge level is perfectly reasonable. And you can get through that one tough spot with a bit of stubbornness and luck, even without looking up a special despawning strategy or whatever.

As for Zeldas--yeah that's always weird to see. I guess the obscure secrets in Zelda 1 could be considered difficult; I had most of that stuff spoiled for me when I was a kid so I can't judge it. But Zelda 2 has never been hard. People on /vr/ periodically remind each other that the final palace is super tough, but it really isn't, even for a kid... it's harder than say Mega Man II, sure, but it's not really very hard.

>>4514289
Legacy of the wizard, seriously fuck that game

Bucky O Hare

>>4516903
I think just getting to the final palace was harder than the palace itself.

Cut to 6min, as that skips to area 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ptsPjwsFw&t=

This is probably the most intense bullet dodging on the NES and the game is nearly an hour long. Granted you do get more bombs and 1-ups from points than any other STG it's still probably the hardest game to 1cc on it's highest difficulty.

>>4516967
Harder than the NES YGW game? Haven't played Gun Nac since Compile games usually bore me so can't compare.

>>4516980
YGW

Please type out the actual name if you want to have a conversation so I know what you're talking about.

>>4516993
Sorry, assumed you knew him: https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Shinobu_Yagawa

>>4516994
Isn't that the gimmick that requires you to do a bunch of boring stuff? Is that a joke response?

>>4517000
I'm talking about Recca, anon (Summer Carnival '92) which was already mentioned ITT by another anon.

>>4517009
You really should have just typed that out. It's only 3 more characters than that acronym you used.

I havn't touched Recca's hard mode. Does that have suicide bullets? Because if not Gun Nac is definitely tougher due to how dynamic that makes the game.

Gun Nac you get a lot of lives, like you'll get at least +2 lives from points every stage and a huge stock of bombs: maybe like 50 over the course of the game? But unless you maintain the ship-upgrade power up, which is lost on a single hit you simply do not have enough fire power to deal with opposition and your huge stock of bombs and lives is there to allow you to cling to life hoping another one of those power ups will drop in time.

It probably has the most bullets on screen for an NES game and it's all very dynamic with suicide bullets on. You can also just get overwhelmed by the sheer number of bodies if you don't kill the enemies in time, they like to linger on the screen for awhile.

The game is also much longer than other shmups, nearly an hour.

>>4517053
We haven't played each other's game so we can't discuss much here.
It's quite lengthy though that's not as impressive, there are quite a few hard ones that last like that or longer from that era like ARC Gradius III or some Toaplan games.

>>4514292
Naw. Shadowgate is not that hard.

>>4512989

I finished this game when I was 8 years old. It took me 6 hours.

Here is for Android: http://nimbleinity.com/18593445/contra

>>4516942
This only qualifies if you are using the HARD! password or playing a pirated copy.

>>4516893
Battletoads on co-op mode

>>4515723
this

GOLGA 13: THE MAFAT CONSPIRACY

>>4515752
That's some bullshit, Recca is one of the few shooters I'm actually good at, the other is Galaga.

>>4516732
Stuff like crosswords and suduko?

>>4516795
I've beaten castlevania and ninja gaiden yet never felt so buttfrustrated as when I reached those rooms full of blue wizzrobes and like likes

>>4513052
Qix Neo is really tough

>>4513059
Dreamland has loops? aw shit

>>4512989
Probably Ikari Warriors. I was never able to beat it, and I've done Contra, Gaiden, & Ghosts N' Goblins.

>>4523140
Maybe without the infinite continues code

>>4513052
The only games that are difficult NES or post NES are arcade ports designed for 1cc. ARC is the true difficult system, but NES hard is a meme instead.

>>4523507
True, but NES seems hard for 7th gen Souls babbies.

>>4523507
Arcade games are absolutly harder. There's no contest. NES games are certainly challenging and deserve respect though. Anyone that thinks they represent some sort of zenith is a retard though.

>>4524283
Indeed, 7th gen Souls babbies that maybe have credit fed a few games in MAME.