/vr/ - Retro Games

>world's largest software library
The Apple II?

>>4507157
Didn't you make this same thread a couple months ago? I remember you getting laughed off the stage over that "arcade perfect ports" assertion.

>>4507157
>>4507176
>samefagging this hard

>>4507157
the 7800 this is?

>>4507157
The only game worth having this system for is Midnight Mutants, and that didn't come until the system was long dead.

>>4507157
>what went wrong?
A tard shitposted

Too little too late. Was designed for single screen arcade games which were on their way out, and the lack of better audio hurt it. Having multiple channels of 2600 sound is charming (at least to me) but doesn't quite cut it compared to even the colecovision.

Would have sold more if they released before the NES like it was supposed to have been but NES probably still would have rolled over it. Atari not being Nintendo's American distributor was probably their worst move overall though.

>>4507157
shit sound chip

>>4507157

>>4508589
But jews never lose!

>>4508591
No, with Jews YOU lose. It's not necessarily a zero-sum game.

>>4507157
>world's largest software library
The Commodore 64?

>>4507157
>backwards compatibility unlocks world's largest software library

Doesn't really matter when it's 95% shovelware made on coke binges.

>>4507157
>what went wrong?

They fucking completely ignored the 7800 and then tried to develop like 4 systems at once in the early 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxNknap9uPU

>>4508582
this. same sound chip as the 2600. couldn't compete with nes

>>4507157
>arcade perfect ports
You sure about that?

>>4507157
so many great controllers

>>4508169
Midnight mutants, ikari warriors, fatal run, tower toppler, commando and ballblazer were the best games on the console. It's kind of ironic but the best games for the 7800 didn't start coming out until the NES was really successful and Atari had some inspiration as far as what to rip off.

>>4508824
>not aspiring to snort cock off the hood of a white Testarossa while Wang Chung plays on the cassette deck.

Why even live?

>>4511108

i snort coke, you snort cock.

>>4507157
Got to love atari

>arcade perfect ports

Lol no

>>4507157
If I remember correctly it basically came down to overconfidence and cocaine.

They were on top of the world getting millions of dollars at a time so they pushed too far too fast. They also forced their programmers to pump out shit games extra fast, AKA E.T. Not to mention everyone there was on some sort of drug because it was a den of hippie scum.

Overconfidence and cocaine.

>>4510873
Of these Midnight Mutants is the only exclusive, andI would argue is the only one I as an NES owner would have been jealous of 7800 owners for as a kid.

>>4512469
Fatal run is almost an exclusive if it weren't for the PAL 2600 version but yeah, midnight mutants is pretty easily one of the best reasons to own a 7800. I also forgot to drop Ninja Golf in there, which isn't as good of a game but definitely an exclusive in the 7800's favor.

I think when you look at games that were on both consoles it's kind of funny how comparable the 7800 and NES actually are. Ikari Warriors is better on 7800 and arguably so is Commando just because of all the flicker on the NES port, arcade ports like Joust the Donkey Kong games and Dig Dug are good on both, Tower Toppled/Castelian has differences but is solid on both machines, NES karateka, kung-fu stomp the 7800 versions but other stuff like ballblazer and choplifter that weren't so great on NES were better on 7800. And it's a toss up for stuff like Xevious, Galaga or Rampage. A lot of people like to talk about how the 7800 couldn't keep up with the NES but I think what hurt it more than anything was just the limited library and lack of really ANY third party support.

>>4513420
>A lot of people like to talk about how the 7800 couldn't keep up with the NES but I think what hurt it more than anything was just the limited library and lack of really ANY third party support

The 7800 was mostly designed for single screen games with a lot of sprites. Thus it had better ports of Galaga and Robotron than the NES but when it came to side scrollers, it fell short.

>>4513421
Everyone hated Sam Tramiel and no one wanted to work with or for him.

Fuck him and his kids.

If only they could have gotten Intellivision and Coleco to port their catalogs to the 7800.

Or it Atari had ported more of its own 8 Bit computer catalog...

Or even it's ST games.

Or used European developers.

Or partnered up with Sega to make cross platform games.

>>4513431
At the end of the day what hurt Atari more than anything was not being the ones to release the NES. They decided to sit on the deal in hopes of giving the 7800 an edge and it backfired in the worst way. All because they got their jimmies rustled over Donkey Kong playing on the Coleco Adam.

>>4513431
>If only they could have gotten Intellivision and Coleco to port their catalogs to the 7800.
Kind of a hard sell seeing how INTV was supporting the intellivision all through the 80s and into the early 90s

>>4508845
like sega a few years later

>>4515000
Why not. They released games for the 2600?

>>4515258
They did back when Mattel was running things. INTV continues to sell the 2600 games they already had but weren't developing anything new for the hardware. They were only doing intellivision games, and the output for those was pretty minimal since they were operating with a pretty small crew. Almost all the INTV guys were former intellivision devs from Mattel who didn't want to stop making games for the intellivision, so they bought up the rights and the old stock when Mattel abandoned video games and then sold the remaining inventory and their new stuff through mail order. They were enthusiasts who just didn't want to see the intellivision die, they weren't interested in being third party devs for other peoples hardware.

>>4513474
>what hurt Atari more than anything was not handing over control of future product and profit lines to a smaller Japanese arcade company

>>4507157
2 year old hardware the day it was released.

>>4517141
Yeah obviously going head to head with Nintendo turned out well for them

>>4517314
Or Tramiel could have just paid the fucking 7800 devs and released the thing when it was supposed to be out

>>4517338
>Tramiel
>paying anyone

>>4507157
>>arcade perfect ports
I actually own a 7800 and several of the arcade ports that were released for it. They're good ports, but none of them are exactly arcade perfect.

>>4507157
2600 sound chip on a newer console, no competition there!