/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[01-02] Doom: Gore Prisons (as yet unreleased, not sure why this was submitted)
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/304/ti-community-doom-gore-prisons

[12-31] Colourful hell updated to 0.925
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1033654#p1033654

[12-31] Arcane Dimensions 1.70 released
http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm

[12-30] Chocolate Doom 3.0 released
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/releases/tag/chocolate-doom-3.0.0

[12-30] Random Deaths and Decorations 1.62
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98565-random-deaths-decoration-162-available/

[12-28] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9.4 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=30942

[12-28] La Tailor Girl 1.2 is out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1033276#p1033276

[12-26] this just in: the monsters are afraid of doomguy's weapons
https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/945729078878973952

[12-25] ProjectILE updates after 2 years
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4482352
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n15f7ghpbc7mmtu/ProjectILE.zip

[12-24] Intermission E2M9
https://youtu.be/96824yg2xKM

[12-24] Project: Kate by Jimmy released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98451-maps-project-kate/

[12-24] Bad Religion by NaturalTvventy released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829642

[12-24] Abyssal Speedmapping Session #32 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829593

[12-23] The Revenant Problem
https://youtu.be/MiEYCXPI-qY

[12-23] Gridlock released (community project made on 64 unit grid)
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829307

[12-23] Aliens: The Ultimate Doom and Castlevania: Simon's Destiny get Moddb 2017 Editor's Choice awards
http://www.moddb.com/games/hello-neighbor/features/editors-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

[12-23] Joy of Mapping 5 public beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829276

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=== PROTIP ===

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>>4497918
take note,
>on the next version
0.l all over again

>>4497962
He looks ready.

>>4497964
what makes you say that? i can't find any 0.l's in dec31test.

% zipgrep '0\.l' bd21test-dec31.pk3
SPRITES/WEAPONS/CHAINSAW/CSA2A0 bad CRC 03415cae (should be 73aeb9f3)
%

Imagine episodes 2 and 3 all designed by Romero.

repost so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle

>>4497964
You donated for this.

>>4497981
then they'd be actually good.

>>4497823
>>4497846
not him but there was this thing in a secret area in a 2004 map named Tremor. apparently the author was more concerned with overdetailing and sucking up to Scuba Steve than checking his map for zdoomisms

Why is the Nailgun such a useless piece of shit? Why did they bother to include it? Every other weapon has a distinct advantage or utility, except the Nailgun. It can't even gib. They should have just called the super nailgun the nailgun and removed the regular nailgun entirely. So fucking pointless.

>>4497981
i like sandy's maps but he had to do too many. would have been good if the others had done more maps instead of leaving it all to Mormon Grandpa. for the same reason i don't think it would have been great to have romero do all three episodes by himself. i appreciate the variety of styles.

>>4497998
They include it because of Nine Inch Nails.

>>4497998
It's like the Doom pistol. Outright inferior to the chaingun, it's only there for the progression.

>>4497943
What about leap years?

>>4497982
Someone's going to be saltier than Graf over this.

>>4497982
it's people like you that gets /vr/ made into scapegoats

>>4498020
>whinny [sic] kids from /vr/ that [sic] complains [sic] about BD making the game too hard.
LOL

>>4498020
>accidentaly making a whinny noise
Mark confirmed for horse

>>4498016
Doomguy doesn't leap.

>>4497882
>>4497929
It is indeed.

>>4497895
>>4497945
>>4497943
It's to raise awareness and possible intrest, incase anybody wanted to join on in. There's a bunch of free slots open.

>>4498020
>too hard
>/vr/
is this secretly a joke about HDoom?

>>4497993
yeah there's a lot of maps that do the 'write something with linedefs' thing

i think leaving a link to a discord or something is pretty funny tho

>>4497982
wtf is this all about anyway? BD never crashed my game

>>4497982
lmao

>>4498047
BD is plenty well known to collide with other WADs, so much that it's actually cemented many players to just WADs that are compatible.

One of the main reasons why BD is so hated is because a bunch of people used to walk in and beg for a compatibility patch instead of making their own.

>>4498047
just look in the old thread dude

>>4498020
mark is obsessed with /vr/, huh

he's practically tsundere for us

>>4498068
he could hang here if he wasn't so thin-skinned (and an insufferable faggot)

>>4498020
He's the one broadcasting his petty internet grudge in a crowdfunded project.
Hey, he's already well on his way to becoming a true indie dev!

>>4498047
Mark got pissy at Project Brutality, made it so that loading Project Brutality with his new mappack would spawn infinite actors at once in a recursive ACS script so it crashes the game, and due to how "well" GZDoom is coded, your PC, with a very slight chance of damaging the rig.

>>4498087
>Hey, he's already well on his way to becoming a true indie dev!
No wonder game journos like him so much

>>4498108
Did it ever trigger the recent GZDoom security hole when it was a thing?

>>4498116
no

mark wouldn't even be smart enough to use that

>>4498108
not gonna lie, I actually thought Project Brutality was made by Mark IV. like I thought it was just an expansion/sequel to Burtal Doom

>>4498116
>you will never see the game rearrange your files into the shape of an agitated skeleton.

>>4497872
I don't see "killing cacos in unreachable places" and "wow.wad"

Any twitterfags wanna go ruin a special someone's day?

>>4497943
>>4497962
these two cured me of my depression

>>4498167
Is it actually true that there are still un-credited resources in the latest download of BD?

Brutal Doom was the worst thing to happen to Doom.

>>4498178
I thought that was terry

lads where can I get the audio files for Wolf3D, particularly the voice lines, in wav if possible

I've always loved the enemy voice lines in RTCW. I'd pay actual money for the HALT alone.

mark is from san paolo
that explains everything lol

>>4498186
pl2 map27?

>>4498189
does it? why?

>>4498182
nah, it was making the game scriptable at all. even half the stuff in Boom is unnecessary. there's a few missing but useful linedef and sector types, and of course limit removal. other than that, you don't need anything extra

>>4498195
i meant terry wads

>>4498192
yes

>>4498184
Download wolf3D

then use chaosEdit to extract the sounds
www.veracottis.co.uk/CEprev1_27.rar

>>4498203
>terrywads being the worst thing to happen to Doom
>when some of them have great boss battles and sometimes gameplay

yeah, no.

>>4498008
NIN came into play way later in Quake's development than the nailgun was made.

>>4498138
you could still make a mod that does that if people are using those older versions of gzdoom, right? :^)

>>4498176
no, everyone who goes on about it (I get it, people just want a reaction out of him) is talking about old shit that's been sorted out

>>4498193
they're very arrogant and obnoxious
plus he's white-ish so I'm more than willing to bet he's of italian descent.

think of something amongst the lines of a beaner guido

>>4498184
MEIN LEBEN!

>>4498206
gtfo nambona

>>4498229
>responding to a known ban evader

http://kinsie.tumblr.com/post/162078331132/cackledemon-some-shots-of-the-metadoom-codex
What happened to this?

>>4498176
>>4498216
yes, scalliano recently pointed out that he was in fact still uncredited

What are hottest new wads of 2018 lads?

>>4498204
the wolf3d download, much like others I attempted to use before I asked here, only contain some of the sounds which I am looking for

>>4498252
well hey someone go tell mark then
he'll get upset and the author will get his work credited or removed

>>4498254
project brutality :^)

is it actually ok to call gameplay mods 'wads'?

>>4498265
this

>>4498270
unless you got another thing to call it?

>>4498270

If we want to get nitpicky, most of them are .pk3s while a lot of mapsets tend to stick to .wad format.
I tend to use "mods" and "maps" to differentiate between them, though. Though, technically, mapsets count as mods as well...

>>4498270
personally i would tend to read it as meaning map(set)s, especially as most gameplay mods are pk3s

what if we took off one of the revenant's rocket launchers and replaced it with a chaingun

>>4498276
status bar mug shot is faintly disgusted by that imp sprite

>>4498276
The imps that you can pick up off the floor look so bad, but at least it's a fun game mechanic.

>>4498284
Whoa there lad

>>4498280
there's some monster replacement mods that do that.

>>4498283
>faintly

>>4498284
new version has you grabbing them while on their knees

>>4498284
see you in three days!

>>4498189
>>4498218
Hi i'm also from there and what the city has to do with Mark's personality?

>>4498291
The joke is brazilians are not very well regarded in vidya communities,

>>4498229
>muh nambona boogeyman

>>4498284
thighs are too large, out of proportion. upper body is nice though. boobs are a fraction oversized but not stupidly so like in many of the more recent imp-tan pictures.

>>4498292
I think the entire South America can be seen as that, however there are exceptions, like me, like doomero, PsychoSilverTH and the list goes on...

>>4498289
fukken prudes, it's not like it was hardcore porn

>>4498298
>like me

>>4498302
newfag

>>4498298
>PsychoSilverTH
His "Prodoomer" is a great example of a lot of effort going into polishing a turd because nobody gave it proper input during what should've been a playtesting phase and now the opportunity is lost.

8 fucking copypasted rooms in mirrored arrangement, in all you have to press 2 switches that exist side by side for no reason. And each map has at least a few spots that are extremely retarded from design perspective and couldve been easily avoided if the author had anybody else to play throuhg them.

And that's not touching the actual gameplay modifications and clash of mishmashing assets in different styles.

>>4498292
but why sao paulo in particular? why not just say brazil in the first place?

post >>4498189 gave the impression that being from this one place was somehow different from being from anywhere else in the country.

>>4498289
DooM is a game in which you literally blow living creatures into shreds of pasty gore, but /vr/ can't handle tits and vaginal lips?

the fuck kinda baby-banishing bullshit has gotten into this place?

something tells me this poster isn't here in good faith

>>4498314
blue board

>>4498314
The site makes the rules, not the thread.

>>4498291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG0YLX5RTuU

>>4498292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3n_NsvGZSg

>>4498310
I think all this has more to do with the modder being self-aware of the mistakes and bad executed ideas, my mod never recieved too much feedback to be honest but yet i always go review some things on it to improve on what is wrong, reworking entirely on the element if necessary, i think the only heavy feedback i ever had for my mod was the threads here back in 2015 shitposting alot about it, and well, i recognize the mistake i did and proceeded in remove almost everything related to that, maximum you will find now is my avatar.

>>4498323
Dude, this happens in the ENTIRE COUNTRY for like the past 20 years, this is nothing new.

>>4498314
no porn on blue boards, newfag

>>4498325
what mod?

>>4498335
What mod do you think i am talking about anon? I only have Hunter's Moon in active development atm and few standalone maps aside ofc.

>>4498343
sorry for not being the kind of faggot to distinguish modders by their posting habits

Now I'll just assume that everyone is Sarais just to be safe

>>4498343
how were we supposed to know it was you, the hunter's moon guy

>>4498347
reminder if he tries to come back and act like nothing happened.

>>4498347
>>4498348
It's fine, i just assumed you were following the replies after >>4498291 but sometimes i forget that not everyone follow the (You)s, don't mind me for the ignorance, sometimes i forgot everyone is marked as anon here and it's not like ZDoom forums.

>>4498347
Who the hell is Sarais and why should I care about him?

>>4498354
oh i never clicked on that picture and i'm not sure i'd recognise it as yours even if i had done so. sorry if it bruises your ego to hear you are not instantly recognisable.

>>4498195
>half the stuff in Boom is unnecessary
I hope you're not talking shit about my conveyor belts

>>4498360
dramafag shit. don't acknowledge any post referencing that name.

are there any GOOD levels which use the nazis in Doom 2?

>>4498368
there's a few but they generally replace the sprites with something more fitting. like scythe 2 plasma marines or jenesis shotgun marines. seem to be a lot of evil marines.

>>4498360
A dude who had a mental breakdown for people providing feedback to his maps.

>>4498364
>sorry if it bruises your ego to hear you are not instantly recognisable.
It doesn't, it's like i said the problem is me forgetting this is not ZDoom forums sometimes and not everyone will likely know who is who inside the community.

>>4498368
Most Boom sets that try to add stuff usually replace nazis,
and the default nazis are not very useful since their roles are already filled

>>4498195
brb, you inspired me to make a source port that just removes limits

>>4498380
so basically chocorenderlimits :)

>>4498380
There's CrispyDoom already.
It's basically ChocolateDoom with optional 640x400 rendering (like in Doom95) and removal of all static limits without adding any new features.

>>4497990
Shores Of Hell and Inferno are great though.

>>4498020
What a little bitch.

>>4498397
They're not though, they're extremely forgettable and just have ugly, annoying maps. The only notable thing they have is that they have a cyberdemon and spider mastermind which isn't exactly pertaining to the mapmaking itself. There's a reason the first episode is the most popular one with the most popular songs too.

>>4498405
>There's a reason the first episode is the most popular one

Shareware?

>>4498020
I don't think anyone on /vr/ complains that Brutal Doom is "too hard", what people complain about that it's a feature bloated, overdeveloped mess that's past it's prime and should have been finished up years ago.
Common complaints from here include:
>redundant shit that serves no purpose (too many fucking weapons)
>poor aesthetics
>objectively bad sound design
>really fucking shoddy and tangled up code
>Mark generally being a bad person (as he's recently shown again)
>"You're a good mapper, why don't you stop running BD into the ground and instead make a really good mapset?"

I mean people here play mapsets like Going Down and Sunder, which don't take it easy on the player (Sunder especially), Plutonia is decently liked, Skillsaw's mapsets (Ancient Aliens in particular), are praised greatly, and a few guys even play Hideous Destructor, which is FAR more challenging and difficult than Brutal Doom can even hope to be.

It's almost like Mark is a salty little bitch.

Anyone knows how to disable the speed increase when low on health in Trailblazer?

>>4498390
Gonna fork Crispy Doom to add in rendering at any resolution

So guys what's your favorite wad with new monsters etc?

>>4498434
isnt that the staple feature tho?

>>4498437

Bullet-Eye is pretty fun, I've been enjoying it.
I like the monsters more than the weapons, though.

>>4498429
Don't forget the torture porn!

>>4498429
Note that BD also breaks a lot of shit it's not supposed to break:
Some monster placements of Spidermastermind and Cyberdemon do not work as intended due to radius changes - if you place them in a pillar box that's supposed to open up and release them, they might spawn on top of the box's wall instead.
Again due to mob radius changes teleport traps may send some of their load outside of map boundaries, making some monsters unkillable. Especially bad when there's a script attached to said mob.
Voodoo doll behaves incorrectly in many scenarios, with constant threat of breaking the map progression

That and making every weapon a cookie-cutter-do-it-all while claiming that's how it's supposed to be.
Also dying enemies getting in the way and eating up additional bullets when they were supposed to get "transparent" to hitscans and missiles.

>>4498438
Yes, and I don't want it. Makes it unclear whether I was supposed to make the jump I just did or not since my speed got increased without me noticing it among other things, leading to unintended sequence breaking.
I want it removed, but my knowledge of modding is too limited, sadly.

>>4498437
Bloodstain
Scythe 2

>>4498276
>that ugly fucking imp drawing
>high contrast/gamma
>rifle with carry handle rear sight, but there is no sight in the carry handle at all
>and the front sight post isn't lined up with where the rear sight would be on the carry handle if it had one
>reflex sight on top of the carry handle so you have a tall as shit cheekweld (chinweld?)

>>4498429
>and a few guys even play Hideous Destructor, which is FAR more challenging and difficult than Brutal Doom can even hope to be.

Hey, I'm one of those guys!
To be honest, I used to consider Brutal Doom as the most tactical mod for Doom before I've discovered Hideous Destructor. Right now I'm enjoying the fuck out of HD and can't even look at BD as I used to before.

>>4498429
Hideous Destructor is the shit

What do you think the green bit on the waist is? A belt of some sort, or gore?

>>4498458
So a quick question about HD, is it viable to play with most community mapsets on UV with the right cvars? I tried a playthrough of doom 2 with reduced damage on uv and it seems to restore the original game's balancing. On a side note, how do you disable fall damage on HD? I'm afraid that I'm gonna get some kind of permanent movement penalty (on top of a fuckton of damage) if I cross a dropoff.

>>4498429
>redundant shit that serves no purpose (too many fucking weapons)

And I'm sitting over here loving the fuck out of stuff like HXRTC, Project Brutality Mutators, Aeons of Death, and other things that pile firepower on you, and having a grand time.

Also Hideous Destructor kicks ass, tend to play it fairly often.

Currently playing Doom RPG with Rougelike Arsenal.

>>4498480
Right now I'm replaying Doom 1-2 and I haven't tried any custom mapsets yet. I've been increasing the difficulty as I was getting better at playing this mod.

I don't know any way to disable fall damage. It bothers me too and I've expressed my concerns about it. It doesn't do any permanent movement penalty. however I have no idea how the damage itself is being calculated - you can you lose about 20-80% of your HP or just fucking die.

>>4498486
This. If there is something I love as much as RPG mods, it's randomizer mods.

>>4498290
>>4498276
doom wasn't meant to be this highres, it really clashes
I wonder what it'd look like holding on to just the original imp sprite head up that close

>>4498020
>>4498034
As much as I want to forgive him for that since he's brazilian, let's not forget that he also pulled the PB crash crap and used the "It's just a prank bro" card as the cheap cop-out that it is.

>>4498374
good on you for not reacting poorly when people are rude

>>4498136
At least you're honest about it.
That's more I can say for most people in the world.
Yes, I realize that he might be trolling, so fuck me for having some faith in humanity.

>>4498505
presume you are referring to me, the guy he replied to. how was i rude?

lol at the pcgamer article on hideous destructor
"Oh, and you can aim up and down. That alone should blow your mind"
wow

>>4498521

The PC Gamer article for Hideous Destructor depresses me.
It makes the same mistakes as Burt Lam articles by attributing source port features to mods. And even when it does the community solid by not covering BD for once...the comments have "Why are you covering this? Write about Brutal Doom!!!!".
Gamejournos can't win.

>>4498523
>Gamejournos can't win.
good, they should fuck off and get real jobs

>>4498480
>>4498490
When you're dropping any significant height, switch to your fists. Holding a weapon really fucks you over on fall damage, and you end up dropping the weapon on impact too. Only really extreme falls should be able to kill you if your weapons are holstered.

>>4498528
found the 14'er

>>4498532
Does HD enable fall damage and proceed to use it as a mechanic?

>>4498532
Thank you for your advice, I'll keep that in mind.

>>4498535
It has its own scripted implementation of falling damage. I think it's more accurate to call it momentum damage, because you can crash into walls painfully too if you're moving too fast.

>>4498523
The physical version of PCG has an article this month on Arcane Dimensions that actually doesn't suck, and correctly differentiates between sourceport features and mod features including ad_sepulcher requiring its own verison of Quakespasm (at the time of writing).

>>4498020
Sounds like he wants a personal army.

>>4498528
The shit that's been happening with nudoom and cuphead shows that the people hiring for these jobs hasn't figured out where their priorities should be.

At least venturebeat can admit when they fuck up.

>>4498534
back to reddit with you, you know the sub

>>4498542
you first subhuman

>>4498195
I don't know, I'm still wating for someone to use linedef portals and stacked sectors to make really interesting non-euclidean stuff.

never trust a boner

>>4498523
Yeah.

>>4498538
Cool, used to love getting that thing free before I had internet, where I had to get most of my fix

>>4498548
Amen to that brother, after all, it could be a trap.

>>4498548
you can even see the panic as doomguy realizes he was trapped.

>>4498534
We must secure the existence of our sourceports and a future for graf zahl.

>>4498548
lol

>>4498554
The kind of future where he gets what he deserves for the shit that he tries to pull?

I now want a western mod where I have to quick draw against a baron or imps.

Speaking of Hideous Destructor, is there any similar mod for Quake other than Navy Seals?

>>4498312

People in Sao Paulo think they're hot shit since the colonial times because they were the bigger coffee producer in the country and one of the biggers worldwide. They also were the first region to have an industrial park, because the coffee barons would expand their business and between 1889 and 1930 they were a oligarchy swapping with Minas Gerais the presidential elections. No one would be elected President if weren't appointed by the powerful men in one of those states. Until Getulio Vargas came along and rekt their shit.

But Sao Paulo still stands one of the bigger states in Brazil and the most developed (which isn't really a competition because other regions are so shitty and their development cycle basically stoped when sugar wasn't a good commodity anymore) so they think they pull the country's economy by themselves and are xenophobic as fuck towards other regions.

>>4498563
high noon drifter comes to mind as one, pretty sure it won this year's cacoawards as well

>>4498582
"We live in the best city in Brazil!"
"How?"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Whats it like living in the Monster Condo /dg/?

>>4498585

It would need Portugal-tier of incompetence to not be a developed state within the coffee boom in the late XIX century. But they're still pricks because of that.

>>4498603
brown
dark

>>4498486
>tfw doomrpg will never get another update

>>4498615
Frogot pic.

>>4498616
it was a forgiveable ommission, trust me.

>>4498615
From what I understand Doom RPG still has one guy fiddling around with it a bit, also the latest version will apparently work with the upcoming release of Doom Rougelike Arsenal.

I love the info that you get for weapons and such in Doom Rouge-like Arsenal.

Who are these heretics that hate laser shotguns. I want to shoot them with one.

https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/sprite-clipping-in-strife-veteran-edition-explained/
IIRC Kaiser made the source code for Strife VE public
Why isn't such feature implemented in GZDoom yet (at least as an option).

>>4498646
My brain is attempting to imagine a drill sergeant version of Marge from The Simpsons, so far it's not getting anywhere.

>>4498638
>half of all the weapons are the products of redundant pissing contests between the various departments of the UAC
>The other half are mistakes of natural law, relics of parallel universes and gun shaped demons

>>4498651
Yeah it just keeps loading Officer Marge for me

HUMNAWAHO

>>4498638
The info in Lithium and Final Doomer is also a prretty neat touch.

>>4498652
>half of all the weapons are the products of redundant pissing contests between the various departments of the UAC.

Heh.

>>4498638
How do you assemble the Laser Shotgun?

>>4498692
UNGABUHHAGLLLL *Fwoosh*

>>4498692
uhh it's actually "Menablanablah!!!"

>>4498752
Energy Shotgun advanced assembly, Bulk, Bulk, Sniper on a Laser Rifle.

>>4498804
Thank you

>>4498723

>looking through sprite threads on zdoom forums
>any link pre 2010 is dead

Why does freedoom suck so much?

>>4498905
There's no money involved

>>4498852
With the ominous name, the fact it talks to you, and the red text possibly hinting at it being demonic, I'm not sure it's to be trusted.

Do you finally have enough dakka when your dakka fucks with reality?

>>4498915
NEVA ENUFF DAKKA!
WAAAAAAGHH!!!

>>4498905
The map design is pretty damn good. Challenging layouts and monster placement.

*never* trust a boner

>>4498954
>no weapon sway

>>4498954
It's like the early blob enemy from the alphas, except about 100% worse

LINGUICA EXPOSED POSTING PHOTOSHOPPED CHILD PORN ON DOOMWORLD ! ! !
https://web.archive.org/web/20060518012446/http://www.doomworld.com:80/linguica/sa/horrible.jpg

Recommend me some good RPG mods. (Preferably ones that aren't dead)

>>4498692
do you think mancubi are greasy and sweaty or velvety soft

Is multiplayer between PC and macs possible for Doom II? Like if I got a wine setup for my mac using buddy oculd he play Doom with me on PC?

>>4498368
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/garrulo

>>4499054
Zandronum should have multi-platform LAN/online play

>>4499053
Likely soft, considering how mancubi parents are sex based demons.

>>4499053
>>4499103
>mancubi parents are sex based demons.
That would work if they were greasy as well.
Perhaps they're soft and greasy.

>>4499053
the one that's most comfy to hug

So I remade this Doom image that I made several months ago. I have no real intended use for it so I figure that someone here might be interested in shitty Doom photoshops.

>>4497964
How old is Mark anyway? I keep thinking he's just some edgy 17 year old but he's been doing this for far too long to be that.

>>4498020
>too hard
Granted it's been forever since I last touched or really payed attention to Brutal but I remember the main complaint being that it made Doom too easy with only the fanboys claiming it made it harder. Hell I remember when this video was being passed around a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KjggSG0Eo0

>>4499139

Nice.

>>4499148

>>4498501
I think it's less that and more the imp looks like a generic evil alien than an imp from hell. Also the original imp design is RIPPED.

>>4499183
god such a goofy design

>>4499192
I always thought the Doom 64 Imp looked so much better.

>>4498584
>>4498563
it did win a gameplay one
I guess it's the best revolver in doom? you can fan the hammer and spin it too

>>4499192
I think you mean *sexy*

>>4499367
Do not fug the demons.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Brutal Doom. The gore is extremely prevalent, and without a solid grasp of modern source ports most of the features will go over a typical player's head.

>>4499401

>megawad has at least one Berserk Pack placement in its every level
>either it's already in front of you, just around the first area you are in, or located in the first accessible secret
I wish there exists such mapwad

>>4499487
Are there any Gameplay mods that replace Chainsaws with Berserk packs, health optional, if you already have a Chainsaw?

>>>/trash/13315949
lol sarais

>>4499517
No but that's a pretty novel idea.

>>4499517
i have an idea for a mod that replaces spare chainsaws with weap upgrades
but that's just an idea, so it's probably not worth much

>>4499553
mod where picking up a weapon you already have slightly increases its stats

>>4499558
>chaingun and regular shotgun become god tier

>>4499558
>Single Shotgun and Chaingun become the best weapons in the game

>>4499560
>>4499561
wow, directly after one another
and yeah, it'd have to be pretty incremental for those ones

>>4499558
>this kills the pistol

>>4499563
Or limit it to only pick ups actually placed on the map.

>>4498429
There's a difference between challange and outright bad design
Shit like this is why i consider BDfans to be the Doom equivalent of Meleeplayers

>>4499572
yeah
problem is most mapsets don't bother placing many weapons after you're supposed to get them

>>4499558
Mod where you pistol start each map, but you get to pick a perk or two.

>>4499581
PERKS BASED ON COD

>>4499558
>>4499581
I think a combination of this could be pretty fun.
Obviously you'll want a map with strong opposition to make this balanced and nice.

>>4499518

The take away from that is, on top of everything else, he's super obese and has gender dysphoria? No wonder he wishes he'd never been born.

>>4499558
>duct tape shotgun to a shotgun
>makes LV2 shotgun
two worlds doom when?

>>4499589
a good balance thing would be to have the weap upgrades last only for the current map

>>4499581
I got a mod idea written down where you start with a hatchet and a pistol, they do only mediocre damage but the pistol is infinite, but whenever you kill a monster with these weapons, they drop something that can be weaponized temporarily. This would make every level a forced pistol start but it'd also mean you'd actively go looking for trouble to harvest weapons and shit.

>>4499596
>first encounter is a group of tough enemies
>you're expected to have a super shotgun

rip anus

>>4499584
That's actually already been done a long time ago

>>4499601
I'd say temporary weapon pick ups over actual weapons would help alleviate that. You can't rely on them since they don't last forever, but it should help you get the ball rolling.
The only problem after that would be that the maps need to be built for pistol start.

>>4499601
I haven't seen many maps where you're forced to fight a bunch of tough enemies with no means of escape.
Also I guess I should correct myself a little, the pistol would be mediocre damage, but I would never make a mediocre melee weapon.

>>4499584
Real Guns Ultimate is literally MW2 in doom, it's been done, champ.

>>4499604
>>4499608
ah, of course it has

>>4499558
I've been fidgeting around with idea of Item-progression mod.
You have all your weapons from the start, but they are all broken.
Instead of weapons, map spawn apropriate "Sigil" items. Each "Sigil" collected adds a function to the apporpriate weapon - either empowering your weapon or giving it additional fire mode (there are a lot of altfires you can switch between) - Like in arcade shootemups. Once you gained every function/upgrade of the weapon, further sigils increase the maximum ammount of the "power" gauge you can have, which is spent to activate most powerful attacks and is reestored over time (balance to avoid older firing modes becoming completely obsolete)

>>4499613
That being said, you could probably make it again, RGU wasn't very good. It mashed things up in a super wonky way.

>>4499590
wrong on both accounts

>>4499594
That's what I mean, a blank slate every map, you get perks and your upgrades last for the duration of the map, but you're fresh after the exit.

>>4499615
yeah I like that idea of starting off with all of the weapons but they're kinda shit and you collect stuff to upgrade them in various ways
I like it better when these kinds of mods are more streamlined and you don't get bogged down with too many options or menus

Is there a concise guide somewhere on how to put dynamic textures like water with multiple frames or switches which have different frames when they're triggered into your .wads, via slade or some such program?
I'm autistic and am having a DUMB amount of trouble doing so.

>>4499621
either or i hope you fucks are satisfied.
shit's only going to get worse when i'm gone\
you "win"
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991340846
-sarais
don't blame me for your shit anymore though; this is the last you'll hear of me.

>>4499635
what are you using? Vanilla? Boom? Zdoom?
If first use TEXTURE1/2 lumps to define animations and on/off activateable textures (IIRC you have to DEHACK it)
If Boom use SWITCHES lump (define on/off texture, or an array of textures for animation)
If ZDoom use Animdefs (same as above but with more parameters)

>>4499140
he's almost 40, this dipshit used to post on BRDOOM forums

it was always him and LoganMTM shit talking about "how evil doomworld banned me"

>>4498182
t. Nitroactive

>>4498182
terry was the best thing that happened to doom

anything that riles up drama queens for petty reasons is good

>>4499713
Please leave.

>>4499715
Please don't respond to obvious shitters.

>>4499708
shit like this makes me wonder why Daniel quit doom, is there anything good coming from that community?

>Arachnotrons have tiny arms like Spider Masterminds
>Likewise, they grab their faces when attacking
Wow, it took me that long to notice?

>>4499708
hold the fuck up
nearly 40? got source on that?
I would expect him to be in late 20s with that shitty attitude

>>4499719
Arachnotrons are really cool enemies. I'm upset that the only games to utilize them are 2 and 64.

>>4499721
there was a time when /vr/ posted his FB profile here, and we discovered that he is involved with white supremacy and "south is my country" shit

>>4499719
I just noticed today that the exposed smooth muscle on the back of a cacodemon turns blue when they fire. Hadn't seen the behind of a cacodemon until today, but I caught one infighting with an imp somewhere in e4 of TUD. I don't play much multiplayer, so that explains why.

>>4499724
I have a soft spot for them. The N64 design is pretty sweet too, a lot more demonic/alien and arachnid looking.

>>4499206
Like an average ripped be guy. Huehue.

>>4499734
Two of their horns partially disintegrate for no reason when they die, too.

>>4498548
What map?

>>4499206
To be honest I thought the D64 nightmare imps were ninja demons, I think their lack of mouth is part of it

>>4499745
made it (and the other one) for the gag
the second one was also me seeing how Line_SetPortalTarget works, which could be fun for hiding secrets

>>4499735
64 arachno looks because of the concept of the enemy being a brain on metal spider legs, so it makes the original look like a grey ball in some metal sticks or something else.

>>4499148
>the absolute state of brutal doombabbies

>>4498548
MISTER BONES!
I WANT OFF THIS WILD RIDE!
Wrong answer

>>4499792
how did he type that comment with boxing gloves on

>>4499792
i know this guy on Tumblr
He actually made a post with reason why he thinks BD and Mark suck

>>4499814
Wrong character.

>>4499830
yeah but I couldn't resist

spriting is surprisingly fun

Guys, level with me here, is there a way to stop a player's hitscan attack from taking effect if it crosses a certain line?

I've been pouring over wiki pages and google and i can't find shit

>>4499910
there are linedefs that stop hitscans if thats what you are after

>>4499910
the windows at the start of 300minvr map02 do this

>>4499972
isn't 300vr boom format though? it'd be using a different trick regarding self-referencing sectors, and it'd block projectiles too

>>4499978
>isn't 300vr boom format though?
vanilla, but, yeah
>>4499978
>and it'd block projectiles too
oh you need it to stop bullets but allow missiles, hmm, not sure about that then sorry.

>>4498852
>>4498638
>Those gaps on the 'i's
Holy shit, I could park a fucking schoolbus in that space
Goddamn, non-VWFs look like ass

>>4499853
w-what is happening to him?

>>4500097
just havin a rest

>>4500097
he got struck by
a smooth criminal

>>4500075
no, the problem is that the font itself is variable width, but is being drawn in fixed width, likely due to a limitation in sbarinfo or however doomrla draws those menu screens.

>>4500075
>>4500110
fonts that are actually designed for fixed-width spacing look fine.

>>4500104
>>4499853
his crotch is flying away

>>4497982
Lol Sarge has become the new Terry...

>>4498905
because the people behind it did it for free

>>4499830
It's still someone whose ability to type is questionable.

>>4500123
he probably drank a 100% gluten health bonus

>>4498905
what don't you like about it?

funny meemee

Got a problem with opengl in Zandronum...

Unless i write quick vid_fps 1 or vid_showpalette 1 the game lags like hell as in 0 and i mean 0 fps any idea how to permanently fix this?

It's getting annoying to type in the same thing everytime i open zandronum

>>4500515
>Joy of spriting

>>4500517
update your drivers.

>>4500521
Already did that,still the problem persists

lol play this

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/a-c/apples

>>4500515
>I NEED IT

When I press Shift+F1 to F10 a text pop up on the top left corner of the screen showing the insult but I can't hear Duke saying them, anyone knows how can I fix this? Is a nice feature.

>>4500552
I bet those are just macros for in-game chat, not an actual holler button.

>>4500559
I remember that there are voice lines for each message tho, and I think I've seen DN3D gameplay videos showing that feature.

>>4500547
LUL

>>4500552
I think it's a different modifier key for voice instead of text.

>>4500579
Got it, it was ALT+Function for voice command, not Shift. Shift only prints them on the screen, my bad. Now the problem I have is that not all of them works probably because of that Nvidia thing that I have installed. Thanks anyways bud

>>4500531
i dont get it
i went between those two areas and got all the fruit I think and nothing happened

>>4499558
How about a mod where your weapons gradually deteriorate if you don't pick up enough copies

Mod idea:
>Weapons automatically fire when you have a valid target in crosshairs, accomplished through A_JumpIfTargetInLOS and CheckClass; the latter so that it won't fire on explosive barrels, especially if you're within blast radius

It needs some other hook, though.

>>4499567
>the more pistols you pick up, the closer to an enemy you have to be for a shot to alert them
Boom, problem solved.

>>4500801
>you lose 1hp every time you miss a shot

>>4500801
That's called a triggerbot, anon.

>>4500805
Daaaaamn, that would be evil with the SSG. And any projectile weapons, for that matter.

>>4500801
>>4500805
Give it a nonzero amount of spread so you have to use it up close.

So I picked up Borderlands:The Pre-Sequel used for two bux the other day, so rRandy isn't getting my money. Yes, not retro, you'll say, and also not Doom, and you'd be right... except...

>One of the playerclasses is a cowboy
>Melee attack is a whip
>Her special ability allows her to slow time and quickly flip between nearby targets, shooting them in rapid succession
Sound familiar?

>>4500849
sounds generic

>>4500849
>>Her special ability allows her to slow time and quickly flip between nearby targets, shooting them in rapid succession
Red Dead had this.

>>4500849
>what is RDR
>what is that one blizzard game
>what is a quick-drawing cowboy

>>4500849
GUN

>>4500849
>>4500890
>>4500917
Call of Juarez 2 (gunsliner too I think)

>>4499910
>>4499972

You guys misunderstand. It must be for the player only. I'm trying to make something that shields the demons only.

>>4500849
She doesn't have a she-demon friend with big boobs though

Is sgt. huehue actually capable of making good maps or is it just a meme?

>>4500992
Try his 200 Minutes of /vr/ map. Probably went well over the allocated time but still.

>>4501005
Didn't he straight up recycle that map for his Brutal Doom mapset?

>>4501007
Wait seriously?

>>4501005
This. Just looking at it for what it is, it's quite good.
I'd love to see him work within Boom where he can't bloat it with Brutal stuff, just to see him build a really solid episode of Boom maps.

>>4501008
He sure did

>>4501008
He sure did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw-_bZvObx8

I'm going to buy a CAR.
It'll be no TNT truck, but I still want it to be doomy. Any non-autistic doom bumper stickers I could buy? maybe a caco or something?

>>4501029
be sure to get some PINE SCENTED DECORATIONS for the REARVIEW MIRROR.

>>4501029
dont get stickers at all. they are tacky and just leave residue on the paint as they degrade

>>4501029
get a twingo and put la tailor girl sprites on the rims

>>4501019
That's pretty gay.

>>4501037
not
>BLACK ICE

>>4501038
bruh this is a ten year old car. It already has stickers on it (for the beetles, of all things)

>>4501039
it IS 2018.

So I decided to buy the original doom games and shit on steam as ive never played them and only have played doom2016.

Is there an option to turn off movement with the mouse? While moving around i'll occasionally move my mouse backwards while looking i guess and its really fucking me up because i'll move slower and get my shit pushed in. I havent played the other games yet, only 'Ultimate Doom' so far but this mouse movement is really fucking me up.

>>4501119
Look into using a source port.

>>4501119
download prboom plus. Go into mouse settings. turn off vertical mouse movement.

play doom.

>>4501119
It's called lookstrafe. The Steam version of Doom doesn't allow you to disable that so I recommend looking into a sourceport. GZDoom allows you to disable lookstrafe in addition to running the game in higher resolutions.
Also pic related.

I've made a txt file detailing my "Ideas Guy" ideas
for an Evil Dead/AoD gameplay mod/possible mapset, incorporating neat UDMF and OpenGL features, along with the new fancy ZScript to spice shit up.
I've no idea how to do any of this, but I'm going to make it my goal to have a working prototype by the end of 2018 or possibly next year.
I'm probably going to lose my mind.

>>4501143
Not even mentioning that I'm mainly doing this to dip my toes into modding, as well as to sate my desire for an aoddoom mod that isn't the shitty DEHACKED one from the 90's or any of the other failed attempts.

>>4501143
good luck, anon
S-mart mall secret map?

>>4501135
>>4501126
>>4501123

Thanks bros. Wish I didnt sleep on doom for so long, this game is fucking incredible

>>4501150
Wait 'till you play Quake and Douk.

>>4501147
I've been mainly focusing on the gameplay itself, but I've thought of recreating all the major scenes, if not the majority of the first movie.
If EDII ever actually comes to fruition, there'll be the S-Mart, along with a custom I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL baddie.

>>4501156
Actually, that's AoD, oops. But yes, the mart will make an appearance.

Are there any /doom/ discords?

>>4501162
No.

>>4501162
There's a couple that tried, none that really stuck around.

>>4499050
Bump

>>4501162
Closest was an IRC that's nearly defunct now.

>>4501119
Doom 3 BFG edition comes with Doom 1 & 2, with normal controls. But I don't know if it's still on sale.

>>4501029
Just get a sheet of fireblu

>>4501041
not to derail the thread, but are the beatles essentially the "bacon" of music at this point? not that I hate them of course

>>4501215
Better yet, get FIREBLU as a custom plate.

>>4501143
The >Brutal Doom sprite artist made this.
Going to touch it up or just make a new one from scratch. I suppose it all starts from somewhere. It's 3:00 here though, my lids are drooping.

>>4498651
DOOMGUY NEEDS BRACES

>>4498692
They say "come tomorrow"

can someone tell me how the fuck i import my acs library in GZDB without having to specify the full path to it? it is compiled and .o file is in /acs

someone hasnt been keep their boards clean

http://mancubus.net/forums/index.php/board,44.0.html?PHPSESSID=vkamk4p71bmbf36tincq6cq7k3

Installed Brutal DOOM v21 yesterday and had a blast on Tactical mode with fast monsters.

Too bad they added footsteps, that shit is just annoying because it plays footstep sound even during de-acceleration, no matter how slow you move during it.

>>4501162
https://discordapp.com/invite/WhZqpae
:^)

>>4500849
And she's also the most boring out of characters, which are in alll much less interesting to play than any of the BL2 characters, except maybe claptrap, but he's too lolrandumb for my tastes.

Also IMO the best way to play all games is to use save editor to splice the equipment you got together in attempt to bring in a crafting mechanic this game lacks and make uniques scale with your level (since they do that anyway once you reach the endgame, but you have to drop them again)

I've been wanting to play through all 3 games with a consistent group of players but nobody that I know of are interested in that, sadly.

>>4500849
Cowboys with whips and quickdraws aren't that uncommon, desu. Isn't there a new movie about British and American secret service agents that has that?

Wait, brutal doom's hard? Doesn't it make the game easier though?

>>4501380
Plutonia on UV became noticeably harder with BD the last time I tried. It's the reloading and the monster-initiated execution animations.
The thing is, BD doesn't make things generally harder or easier, it makes some things harder than they should be and others easier than they should be because the original game is well balanced and BD isn't.

>>4501380
this has already been discussed multiple times, even in this very thread, it's getting pretty tiresome so let's have a break from it, thank you.

>>4501143
i feel you bud
good luck, don't push yourself too hard and take it easy but consistently

>>4501252
fuck i want some more kpins now

>>4501268
i think you can turn footsteps off

>>4501380
it has different things, some which might make it easier, some which make it more difficult

>>4499725
WTF I love Mark now

>>4500979
Well, this is all I've gotten. Wish I could do this with hitscans but oh well.

I hope someone picks up GZDoom soon.

>>4501380
It throws the ballance out of whack, making stronger enemies weaker while making hitscanners much stronger.
Chaingunner traps that were supposed to put player under pressure to force them to seek the way out has become instant death traps. due to the volume of fire being increased like 5 or 6 times. And plutonia is famous for pulling that shit.

>>4501427
haha that's great

I didn't know gmDoom had a separate plugin to load maps from WADs. Though it doesn't seem like to textures not from Doom II and the maps in general are quite buggy.

>>4501427
graf hasn't actually dropped it yet though has he? he's just gone silent

>>4501435
i wish he would just announce something so those who have been waiting to step in can

>>4501436
yeah, but that's why he's just being silent right? just to be a dick leaving it in limbo for a while
I think he'll come back to it soon

>>4499721
Well, his patreon did say that he was a "pro doom player" as far as 1997, so go figure.

>>4501434
Plugin?
I thought there was a ccmd for that. It does not load any resources - only the map geometry, and any missing resouurce that is present on map but not loaded will result in errors.

Are you talking about that or something different?

>>4501436
>>4501441
he's dead. rip.

>>4501435
looking at the git, he hasn't done anything for nearly a month now

EDuke32 or DosBox?

Is there a way in ZDoom to make a universal hub map player can warp in and out of at any time?
What I think of is a warp spell that teleports the player into the market map, and when he uses the in-map teleport he gets teleported back into whatever place he teleported from, with the level in the state it was left in.
And for it to be useable with any mapset.

>>4501456
>professional programmer since 1994
he must be pushing 50 by now

The "chex tc drawn and imagined by kids" project is done, now I need to figure a way to distribute it to kids and parents who are, it is safe to assume, probably pretty computer illiterate.

I'm going to burn some dvds with all the files they need, but I need to make it as simple as possible to start the game. I think if I give em instructions like "drag galop.pk3 over GZDOOM.exe" I'm going to lose a few.

Another anon suggested just making a shortcut with -file galop.pk3 but it wont work if they copy the files over to their hard drives since the directories might be different.

Any ideas ?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98631-the-doomguy-test/

this is a funny thread.

>>4501463
sigh

and issues on GZDBBF repo just keep pilling up faster than being fixed

dont think 2018 is going to be a good year

>>4501465
Bat files - they do not need to have specified path in them so it should look something like

gzdoom.exe -iwad whateverwad.wad -file whatevermod.pk3

when put into the GZDoom directory, it will work regardless of hwere that directory itself is.

>>4501465

you can also try this

http://sumtips.com/2013/01/create-shortcut-with-relative-path-in-windows.html

>>4501454
wonder when they'll change this, heh

>>4501457
eduke32 ofc why is it even a question

>>4501465
yeah even something as simple as "drag galop.pk3 over GZDOOM.exe" will lose a lot of people, sadly

>>4501449
There's an addon for Garry's Mod called gmDoom which allows loading entities from Doom II including usable pickups and monsters as enemy NPCs, and then there's gmDoom maps, where an admin can load a Doom map within a Source map like gm_flatgrass.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=145310679

Pic related is meant to be MAP05 from TNT. I guess it really must be close to the top with that bloom.

>>4501470
>>4501472
>>4501474

Bat file seems to work great ! I can even specify my own config file which will help since I taught kids how to play using WASD instead of the arrows, will save them having to reconfigure and be confused for a bit.

And turn off bilinear filtering, gotta raise them kids right !

>>4501483
You can pre-configure the GZDoom with autoexec.cfg - it would always read that file unless something else is strictly specified in the base config.

>>4501474
Thanks for clarify it.
>why is it even a question
Because I'm looking for the most vanilla experience since I don't have a physical copy of Duke Nukem 3D and I have little experience with Duke Nukem modding

>>4501491
all good, you'll be able to configure it to get as close to vanilla as you need

>>4501480
I really like that addon, I want to use the same method that the creator did for a Duke Nukem 3D addon

>>4501483
>>4501483
>turn off bilinear filtering
Great thinking!
Also I'm not aware of this project at all, care to share the elevator pitch? I gather that you somehow have access to kids and are playing doom with them the dream

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98648-uac-labs-labwad-my-first-wad/

The worlds most unfortunately named myfirstmap.wad. Not sure if clueless or troll

>>4501519

I work at a daycare and we are always encouraged to find new and unique things to do with the kids, so I thought "hey I sort of know decorate and I have a vague idea how GZDoomBuilder works", how about I make a game with the kids ?

So I had the kids hand draw/paint textures, decorations, items, monsters. And they would tell me what should happen in the game and I would implement their ideas as best as I can in the game (I suck at decorate and this is my first time ever actually designing levels). I had to make a few compromises (every kid wants THEIR monster to be the strongest ever and have a million attacks, also they had some pretty far fetched ideas that I just discarded like a flying level) but in the end they are extremely happy with the result.

>>4501527

Here's a screenie btw.

>>4501465
The summer camp one?

>>4501527
that's so awesome! funny to see something like this posted here of all places
>every kid wants THEIR monster to be the strongest ever and have a million attacks
ha, that's such a kid thing
you'll have to start teaching them zscript soon tho

>>4501529
real cool man, what a great thing to do! and now I know what armour is in french

>>4501529
That's really cute.

umm... WTF?
Where's the error?

>>4501529
Link?

>>4501537

Actually armour is "Armure"

Bouclier actually means Shield.
And unfortunately it's my final project at that place, I was just a temp. Colleague's maternity leave is over so I'm out of the picture. heh.

>>4501536

Not really summer camp, it's like a daycare mostly not sure of the equivalent overseas, here we call that an "accueil collectif de mineurs" wich is quite a mouthful.

>>4501538

Thanks, it was quite a bit of fun. And long long long hours, kids were pretty young (most in the 6 to 7 range, with a few older kids) so I had to do all the coding, image editing and level design by myself outside of my work hours.

>>4501542
I'm thinking of setting up a dropbox link for it. I'm going to burn the game for all the kids who participated in the project, but I also want those who missed out to be able to play it at home. I'll share the link.

>>4501547
i hope you got them to do a custom TITLEPIC?

>>4501537

>that's so awesome! funny to see something like this posted here of all places
I know right ? Arent these generals just fucking awesome ?
Trolling's manageable, people share awesome shit and you always find an anon to help you.
on that note :
>>4501541
Hmmm cant seem to see anything wrong.

>>4501550

I totally forgot about it, Would've been great though.
Last few sessions we had were quite rushed unfortunately.

>>4501553
i hope they keep their discs safe and look back fondly on it when they're older

>>4501557

They better. I hope one of them will get curious about how we did all that stuff and get into doom modding as he gets older.

>>4501537
>every kid wants THEIR monster to be the strongest ever and have a million attacks
>ha, that's such a kid thing
Actually, the funniest part is that sometimes I would more or less follow their instructions and let them try fighting their new monster and they would go "wahhhh game's too hard"
No shit kiddo ! You're the one who wanted the monster to shoot seeking fireballs and run around at mach speed. I had to tone pretty much every monster down heh.

>>4499053
I think it'd feel like a giant big mac or Rush Limbaugh.

>>4501558
i would've loved this shit as a kid, i would have been fucking fascinated so i hope they appreciated it
probably didn't even have a concept of 'mods' at that age, and that normal people could modify video games to create something new and different

>let them try fighting their new monster and they would go "wahhhh game's too hard"
hahahahaha, that's a tough lesson to learn