/vr/ - Retro Games

And you forget Konami. Now, that's really a tragedy.

Capcom its not bad but far from their golden years.

All good things must come to an end

>>4497502
How old are you, Sir Youngfag?

>>4497519
This.

It isn't like you can "miss out" on something you can still play and enjoy. Outrun and Afterburner were OLD games when I was a kid, but they still stood out at an arcade.

>>4497502
Welcome to the fold, young anon. Try not to be too jaded. Good games will always be good. And they'll always be there for you.

>>4497534
That pic is awesome. Source?

>>4497518
What's actually keeping Capcom alive, anyway? Is it just monhan? It doesn't feel like they've been doing any other worthwhile things.

>>4497537
https://zarnvladak.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>4497502
I don't think it's sad, I think it's fun. Life us better once you accept and understand the changing flows of the Tao over time and ride the waves. It's all great.

>>4497502
>once big-time
>Squaresoft

The fuck? They're one of the biggest publishers/developers in the world, dumdum.

>>4497547
The size of post-merger Square has nothing to do with the quality of their games. EA is big, too. Doesn't mean anything.

>>4497542
Yep, pretty much Monster Hunter sequels and ruining Street Fighter :P
But their past decade was awesome: Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Ultimate Ghost'n Goblins, Devil may Cry, Shadows of Rome, Resident Evil 4, Onimusha, Phoenix Wright, etc. Maybe the'll get better next decade

>>4497550
EA is literally the biggest video game company in the world. Whatever point you're trying to prove, you are picking the absolute worst examples to prove it with.

>>4497547
Squaresoft used to make amazing games like Bushido Blade, Einhander, Brave Fencer Musashi, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, Tobal and whatever I missed.

Also, Final Fantasy was massively hyped back then.

>>4497557
Do you have a learning disability? We're talking about bygone eras here.

>>4497547
no they're not, squeenix is

>>4497523
24

>>4497557
His sincere belief is that he is the mark by which all quality should be measured. So a game that has a million enthusiastic fans is actually terrible and probably "cancer" if it's not one that he personally likes. I'm not even kidding.

These companies aren't even dead (well, Squaresoft is now Squeenix, but the one that got the short end of the stick with the merge was Enix, not Square).
But yeah I can imagine how you feel. I can't relate too much because I started with a bit of 2nd gen (Coleco Vision) then jumped to NES, but I still experienced most of the medium, and only really missed 70s stuff.
But I can relate it to music, there's a lot of good music from not only decades, but also centuries before I was born and yeah it's overwhelming, but good that they exist nontheless.
Feel happy that you're able to play those games, even if it's emulated.

>>4497567
>2 digit age
NEWFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

>>4497546
Way of Yin=Way of the cuck

>>4497502
I'm fine with Sega so long as they keep pumping out and translating Yakuza games at a good quality.

>>4497557
Learn how to read, dude

>>4497502
>Sega
At least we still get Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles, and Sonic (if that's your thing). Obviously a huge fall from grace though.
>SNK
Yeah they're nothing compared to what they used to be.
>Squaresoft
Dead company, not even the same people or work policies at Square-Enix
>>4497518
>Konami
Biggest downfall. Fuck
>Capcom
They're smaller but we still get Ace Attorney and other fun things. Probably doing the best of all these companies mentioned

>>4499316
>and Sonic
Eh, that’s still iffy at best. Between the two parts of Sonic Team, one can make an OK game every now (like Generations) while the other consistently makes dog shit (like the recent Forces). Mania was great, but there’s no telling how much steam a single guy can have in him.

>>4499316
Okay, but what about something new? Everything you mentioned are sequels to at least decade old IP’s, and most people agree those series’ (with the exception of Yakuza) stopped being worthwhile a long time ago. This is a major problem with gaming today, publishers depending on a well-known name for guaranteed sales instead of stepping outside the box to try something new. Everything used to feel new all the time, but since the Xbox 360/PS3 era creativity has stagnated and is now the exception rather than the norm. The industry has gotten too big for its own good and at this point I’m feeling ready to abandon my Bloodborne machine altogether and go back to just playing old shit.

>>4499424
Because creativity back then was just doing shit nobody else yet got around to doing. And why small/cheap titles thrived.
Nowadays everything has to be wholesome. Everything has to be open world, sandbox, everything has to have both driving and shooting, rpg-like dialogues, cover systems, stealth mode, romance options etc. When you have two years to develop a game and you have this fuckhuge checklist of boxes to tick you rarely have time left to actually try something new.

>>4499441
Yeah. Video games got huge and now they follow this DNA mutation kind of evolution just like hollywood where you have to convince "producers" to pay for your shit by pitching ideas in the "successful game plus a twist" format like "GTA but with assassins and parkour"

>>4501080
not many people have 20 million dollars to throw around like fun money

>>4497502
To think that Capcom made multiple builds of RE2 and RE4 only to scrap them

>>4499316
>Squaresoft
>Dead company, not even the same people
Akitoshi Kawazu is still there and still puts out excellent games when ever he is allowed to make something and if it ever does manage to make its way westward. This man is the truest of TRUEST mother fuckers.
>JP: I feel like the character classes that you pick at the beginning of the game have a huge impact on the way that you play the rest of the game. Can you speak to those a bit?
>AK: The fun in an RPG begins when you create a character, in my mind. I didn't feel the need to have a suggested party at the beginning for clearing the game. I wanted people to be all Black Mages or all Warriors if they wanted. But back then... In those days, people didn't think that deeply about that kind of thing, either. It wasn't just us. Everyone was sort of like that. The idea was to just let people figure things out. If you make a party of all White Mages, you probably can't clear the game, but we weren't really worried about that affecting the balance or anything like that.
>AK:...the unifying theme is that... Allowing the players to play the game the way they would like to play it. Giving them freedom to take the game in the direction they want to take it, without interfering too much on the design side.
https://retronauts.com/article/670/akitoshi-kawazu-on-the-reasoning-behind-sagas-insanity

>>4497518
I agree, what the hell happened to Konami? They are probably my favorite retro developer, but that is it.

>>4501137
Based interview

>>4501137
>what the hell happened to Konami?
Their side business started generating more money than their main business, video games, around 2006.

>>4501503
7th gen (and onward) was a mistake

>>4501503
What I loved about old Konami is that the same company could make "darker" or serious (to put it in some way) games like Castlevania, Gradius, Silent Hill, Metal Gear, but had that other side which made fun of themselves: Parodius, Twin Bee, Violent Storm, Kid Dracula, Goemon, etc.
Not a single company in the old days had that strong contrast in their lineup, even if back then there was much mmore sense of fun and humor in gaming in general.

>>4497542
Mega Man is getting something new.

But yeah, seeing as how Puzzle Fighter is a thing it's mostly Street Fighter and pachinko.

>>4501567
That Mega Man game is clearly not a high budget title, sadly.

>>4501567
>There's a Puzzle Fighters for phones and looks like shit compared to a 20 years old game.
Also what i don't get is why companies like Konami stop making games to focus on pachinko when they could go and make both games and pachinko machines, and who in the fuck goes "oh a shame they canceled the last Castlevania game but holy molly i am exited for Sexual Violence Castlevaina"

>>4501567
>But yeah, seeing as how Puzzle Fighter is a thing
OH GOD I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WHY MAKE ME SUFFER EVEN MORE I WAS HAPPIER BEFORE

>>4501137
I don't even know how SaGa games eluded me through my teenage years.

Wait, I do. I'm from Europe.

>>4501567
I'm looking forward to Mega Man 11 and all, but I can't see that being a cash cow for Capcom.

>>4502545
They wanted us Europeans to be FFVIIfags. And they succeeded, mostly.

>>4497519
things must come to an end

>>4499316
SNK is dead

>>4501137
Yeah Kawazu is still there, but what about everyone else? Sakaguchi, Tanaka, Ishii, Matsuno, Takahashi, Uematsu, Nojima, the list goes on

>>4503646
>actually committing to memory the name of a bunch of japs who made some game back in the 90s
Concentrated autism.

>>4503648
>actively engages in online discussion
Even higher concentrated autism.

>>4503648
Half the guys mentioned are more famous than anyone in Konami bar Kojima. Old Squaresoft was a house of legends.