/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[12-31] Arcane Dimensions 1.70 released
http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm

[12-30] Chocolate Doom 3.0 released
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/releases/tag/chocolate-doom-3.0.0

[12-30] Random Deaths and Decorations 1.62
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98565-random-deaths-decoration-162-available/

[12-28] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9.4 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=30942

[12-28] La Tailor Girl 1.2 is out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1033276#p1033276

[12-26] this just in: the monsters are afraid of doomguy's weapons
https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/945729078878973952

[12-25] ProjectILE updates after 2 years
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4482352
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n15f7ghpbc7mmtu/ProjectILE.zip

[12-24] Intermission E2M9
https://youtu.be/96824yg2xKM

[12-24] Project: Kate by Jimmy released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98451-maps-project-kate/

[12-24] Bad Religion by NaturalTvventy released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829642

[12-24] Abyssal Speedmapping Session #32 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829593

[12-23] The Revenant Problem
https://youtu.be/MiEYCXPI-qY

[12-23] Gridlock released (community project made on 64 unit grid)
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829307

[12-23] Aliens: The Ultimate Doom and Castlevania: Simon's Destiny get Moddb 2017 Editor's Choice awards
http://www.moddb.com/games/hello-neighbor/features/editors-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

[12-23] Joy of Mapping 5 public beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829276

[12-22] Babel: more bugfixes and comments added
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4477880

[12-21] Bloody Rust 3 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98406-bloody-rust-3/

[12-21] TNT: Resistance final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90807-tnt-resistance/

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pet the caco

What are the other 9 for, then?

>>4493087
Guy's gotta sleep sometime.

>>4493085
DO NOT.

>>4493076
>356
ya blew it

>>4493087

Sleeping, eating, pissing, wanking.

pls rember that wen u feel scare or frigten
never forget ttimes wen u feeled happy

wen day is dark alway rember happy day

>>4493087
>>4493092
>Dyslexia

>>4493087
Nine free days a year and he still can't be bothered to return Crash's calls.

>bitching about wads

I snagged Deus Vult 2 and I like the level design and overall monster placement, there's been a lot of conveniently placed barrels and the dualy pistols are neat. But it's also total fucking bullshit because so far there's been a lot of overtly cheap moments, like half a dozen spectres and some hellknights teleporting all around you while locking you in a tiny cramped room that's dark as fuck, or 12 chaingunners popping out of a monster closet as you're going up some stairs and shooting you in the top of your head before you can fire back, or flipping a switch that teleports a bunch of shotgunners, pinkies, and imps right on top of you or some other shit.

Pic related, I don't know if it's my monitor but there's 4 or 5 dead spectres here and besides the one with its foot in front of the blue light I can hardly see any of them.

>>4493103

DV2 has some really unorthodox decisions that I don't think really work. Apparently he did a retrospective and talked a lot about he did some chess-style thinking for some encounters, which makes sense but I'm not sure 100% works because chess is chess and not Doom.
Also all the fucking barrels on map01 like god damn dude

Pic-related is like if Doom and Deus Ex combined into one another. It's so fantastic, too bad the single player is short. Project Snowblind Doom mod when /vr/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFVAvmEGO8&list=PLV01nZO5frDf2nYTxiinrVkGlvJhZ1C2x&index=11

>>4493107
There's been like 5 or 6 encounters so far where if I didn't know what was going to happen I'd die within seconds or barely survive with single digit HP left. I don't really remember Doom 1 or 2 being like this, but a lot of wads I play seem like they're balanced around quicksaving a lot, otherwise you're getting murdalized in an ambush and losing 20 minutes of progress.

>oh I wonder what's gonna happen in here

>>4493116

it's actually deus ex: clan wars, it was renamed after the failure that was deus ex 2

>>4493120
It was actually revenants but same thing.

>>4493125

after reading the thread about the minor sprite fixing project I can't stop noticing that brown pixel

>>4493124

I know, but still, I want a Doom game with Deus Ex powers and aesthetics. Snowblind almost cuts it but it's too short. The game is the length of Half-Life 2: Episode 2. If you haven't played it, I would say it's worth playing since it's only a dollar on Steam

>>4493126
brown pixel?

>>4493053
I think it's pretty good. It does something that's distinct and different from the other games in the series, but still has a style that fits it, which is just about the best I could have asked for the game.
I had really extremely low expectations and was pleasantly surprised, I kind of just expected it at best do be like Doom 3, either comparable, or better, but sets itself apart. The gameplay isn't 100% perfect, but it is fun, I enjoyed it a lot.
It's not much like the classic games, but I also think that's good, we already have the classic games, and their mods.

The setting and story is kind of vaguely set up to make it cannon with the classic games, but honestly I just prefer to look at it separately, the style and tone of classic Doom is really just way too different from the modern game to mesh seamlessly. Mostly it kind of uses Doom 64 as a jumping off point, which is cool, but I also never looked at Doom 64 as, uh, "canon" to the original games, further, if you look at a lot of the detail and aesthetic of the new game, it cribs a lot (but not all) from Doom 3.
Classic Doom, to me, feels really way too retrofuturistic to really fit Doom 64, Doom 3 or Doom 4, I'm a minority in this opinion though.

>literally like 70 fucking imps pouring out of a teleporter box
this was really cool for like 30 seconds and then then got tiring really fast
>>4493126
Great now I see it too.
>>4493131
Don't even look for it it's just upsetting.

>>4493126
>tfw colorblind
>couldn't find it it i tried

>>4493153
>colorblind
>saw it on the super shotgun barrel on the left

>>4493085
i love that thing, i hope the guy who made it still has it. is he even still here?

>>4493126
what brown pixel
>>4493160
oh he meant that one? from context >>4493125 context, was looking for one on the revenant corpse.

>>4493181

Same, I was looking for a brown pixel on a Revenant.

muh nostalgia feels

>>4493131
>>4493181

>trees everywhere
>can't see through them
>can hardly move through them
>monsters just walking out of them with no problem
This level kind of really blows ass.

>>4493185
that's not a stray brown pixel, it's Webby, Doomguy's pet spider

we need to talk about nails
seriously, what's the deal with them?

first of all you can hold 200 of nails. sounds good right? nope, Super Nailgun shoots them away in mere seconds. it's not like they have high damage output either, they barely last enough for couples of shamblers

at the same time they're awkwardly placed in levels. you can't hoard them for tougher battles unlike cells and either they're everywhere so you're compelled to use it instead of grenades or shotgun even if they make more sense or they're gone or you have to backtrack through the whole level to collect remaining ones. meanwhile there is rarely a case when you're below 50 of rocket ammo and shells are basically limitless.

seriously fuck nails, they should've let you keep 400 of them or remove regular nailgun and have the super nailgun eat 1 ammo instead of 2 for the same damage.

>>4493206
And what about the engineer's laser gun in all forms of Team Fortress 1?
>obviously fires laser beams
>still uses nails as ammo

>>4493206
>they barely last enough for couples of shamblers

shamblers have a million health anyway, so every weapon needs to burn a lot of ammo to kill them. I think it's mostly supposed to be a long range precision weapon.

Happy New Year /doom/

>>4493206
don't hoard your nails, they're common enough
shamblers have diddley in the way of survivability as soon as you've got nails, they'll die real quick
>they should've let you keep 400 of them or remove regular nailgun and have the super nailgun eat 1 ammo instead of 2 for the same damage.
except the sng is overkill against weaker enemies, please tell us what to replace the standard nailgun with and if you say "a super shotgun that doesn't suck" i'll slap ya

>>4493224
any-range precision weapon as aside from the thunderbolt nails are the only thing that can hit 100% accurate all the time (as rockets are sometimes too big to avoid clipping on level geometry)
it's like this:
>single shotgun: midrange, hitscan, not accurate
>super shotgun: close, hitscan, not accurate
>nailgun: mid to long range (as in close quarters its DPS isn't enough to get rid of knights and fiends before they shred you), projectile, accurate
>super nailgun: any range, projectile, accurate
>grenade launcher: short range, projectile, inaccurate
>rocket launcher: medium to long range, projectile, accurate
>thunderbolt: short range, hitscan, accurate

Doomguy is a sensitive man

>it's another "teleport a whole bunch of guys nonstop in a tiny room" episode

>>4493240
That's Deus Vult 2 to you.
IMO it looks far better than it plays.

And another 365 days with no Blood source code. Just kill me already.

>>4493243

>>4493225
Thanks, same to you.

>>4493237
I can see him as a 90s ecologist activist with a "save the whales" banner. Shit someone should do a wad out of this, smashing furtive hunters to a red pulp

>>4493153
hi keegan

>>4493252
What's a furtive hunter?

>>4493230
>"a super shotgun that doesn't suck"
It does kinda suck though, the regular shotty seems better overall just because it's got a tighter spread and fires faster. The super does like 2.1x more damage or something and it's pellet spread is ridiculous, compared to Doom's super that does like 3x more damage than the regular shotgun.

>>4493237
his anger towards Argent energy suddenly makes more sense

>>4493254
A poacher.
This is what happens when you use google translator when you don't know how to spell a word.

>>4493237
so was doomguy stationed in Japan or something when 2 and the comic went down, or what?

>>4493256
secret protip: doom's super shotgun is not balanced

Where do the zombiemen sounds in Brutal come from?

Like when they're yelling "Mortal!" and all that other shit.

>>4493078
You missed both the XMAS 1024^3 jam and Quenching Urges of Constant Killing for Quake.

>>4493241
>and there's another archvile
Yeah I'm done with this wad, just been getting more and more eye-rollingly frustrating. The chess encounters were retarded too. At least they showed you what you were going to get ganked by before it happened, I guess.

>>4493267
not him but i didn't see them as replies to the news post

>>4493252
>I can see him as a 90s ecologist activist with a "save the whales" banner.
Great, now I want to see a Doom wad that makes the game look like an early 90's action figure and there's fucking neon everywhere.

>>4493264
I remember that at least some lines are from Dremora demons from Skyrim

>>4493269
don't stop at one bad map. maybe turn the skill level down. i highly recommend maps 19 (the stargate map, aka vrack 4) and 21 (hyperdetailed hell cathedral, bit slaughtery but nothing really terrible on hntr) if you like huge maps full of exploration and secrets

>>4493264
>>4493272
Confirmed. The voicelines are a bit speeded up in Brutal Doom tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HezPozdsR18

>>4493261
how would you balance it. would you
1) reduce damage
2) reduce speed (increase reload time)
3) give it its own special ammo type
4) something else i haven't thought of?

>>4493275
Aren't the Brutal Doom zombie lines from the Doom 3 Alpha though? I remember some of them like "BLEED MORTAL!" being from there.

>>4493278
yeah that's what i thought, from the sounds reznor did but were ulimately discarded

>>4493261
Just because it's a really good gun doesn't mean it's unbalanced, there's lots of times where other weapons and even the regular shotgun would be better to use. And 2 throws a shitload of meaty guys at you so you need a workhorse gun that can deal a lot of single target damage without burning through all your ammo.

>>4493276
Not him, but what I would do is increase the damage of the chaingun so it's always 15 damage a shot instead of 5/10/15.

>>4493278
>>4493281
e.g. https://youtu.be/douuiUdyGEI?t=168

Fuck off terryfag troll. This is the fake thread.
The real new thread is here:a >>>/vg/200262000

>>4493285

Man, Trent's sounds were so fucking good.

>>4493274
I'll probably go back to it, I just get really tired of wads that throw a bunch of tight kill rooms at you that you're probably gonna die to your first time through, especially in long ass levels so you have to be quicksaving all the time or drop down from UV.

Gravity is pretty chill. Kind of really goddamn easy tho.

>>4493305
Gravity's a really comfy mapset and I can't quite put my finger on what makes it so pleasant.

>really goddamn easy tho
nvm lol
>>4493313
Nice, steady increase in difficulty so far, and really neat architecture and unique encounters. The building with the bfg in it is really cool with how it slowly opens up and reveals another monster as you grab the items.

>>4493243

Red pill me on GDX. The mouse on DosBox is so much bad and feels weird even with Bmouse.

>>4493313
the combination of deep blue sky and green grass and wide open space and ancient-looking brickwork gives the nostalgic feel of being 10 years old going on a class trip to a local site of historical interest (e.g. the ruins of some medieval castle) on a warm june afternoon

So I had the ATF try to entrap me this morning, what's a nice brief mapset that looks pretty and is medium difficulty? Something that's 3, maybe 4 or 5 maps long, someone put some effort into making it look very good.

>>4493343
>So I had the ATF try to entrap me this morning
what

>>4493313
>this one lone tree and pond out in the middle of nowhere
super surreal

>>4493347
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

>>4493343
Dafuq did you do to get those guys after you?

>>4493343
EPIC.WAD (the first one, not the megawad sequel)

>>4493347
>PM on tumblr
>"hey bro, wanna buy a gun, wanna buy an unregistered machinegun"
>"we'll ship it to your door, what's ur address bro, no background checks"
>look at his site
>pics of machineguns, with some reverse image search, find the exact same pictures on some site listing dealer sample machineguns (as in, machineguns only transferable between LEO and special occupation gunshops)
>tell him to fuck off and rip off or sting someone else
>"nah, don't be like that bro, what's ur address"
I was one of many people he was looking to hustle.

>>4493352
Probably look like I could make a patsy like any other. You know how cops dress up as prostitutes and try to entrap suckers? Same thing, they're just looking for easy victims to fluff their statistics.

>>4493349
Link?

>>4493356
There was a first one?

>metadoom uses those trent sounds
maybe that's why it felt a bit different, from the last time i played doom 3
i think kinsie should add trent's name in the credits list

>>4493365
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/epic
why do you think the megawad was called "EPIC 2" :)

>>4493361
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/gravity

There's only two maps but they've got these enormous spacious areas with just a few set pieces and then there's the main dungeon kind of place in the center, I really like it.

>>4493343
Oh my god is your dog okay?

>>4493361
Sting operations are really dystopian to me. Law enforcement trying to get you to break the law just so they can arrest you.

>>4493378
Yes. Him's a good pupper.

>>4493372
>>4493361
Also being maybe like halfway through the 2nd map I'd say it was probably meant for a pistol start. I don't think you're supposed to be rolling in with a RL and SSG with 80 rounds just to totally annihilate some scattered imps and zombies in the opening, so keep that in mind.

>>4493385
I'm cool, I don't mind just kind of admiring the scenery and poppin' some foo's.

Say, has anyone made fixed brightmaps for the Sprite Fixing Project yet?

>>4493394
>dur hur the bosses that fucking explode shouldn't have bright maps cuz artistic vision

>>4493398
what do you mean? doom doesn't have brightmaps.

RANGE

I think this might be my favorite wad so far.

>>4493398
?

>>4493402
ok I donno what a brightmap is ya got me

>>4493402
GZDoom does.
The sprite fixing project kind of messes them up some, not just on bosses.

>>4493402
Even vanilla doom can have with a custom playpal though. See: strife

>>4493403
gravity is indeed superb, but i didn't find it particularly replayable, it's more of a discovery/exploration wad. on replay it didn't seem as engrossing

you might like endpoint by the same author, it's similarly light and airy with a nice blue sky texture, however it is harder and nowhere near as spacious

>>4493343
actually you might like endpoint too, 7 maps long, takes two or three hours to max

>>4493408
nvm I do know what brightmaps are

>>4493413
oh you mean like having a palette range whose colormap entries don't map the colour to darker shades.

>>4493408
how does the sprite fixing project break them?

>>4493416
Yeah it does seem kinda like a one and done sorta deal. But look at this RANGE
I'm glad the author had the good sense to not do this scene with a bunch of fucking chaingunners or a spider mastermind or something.

>>4493424
oh wait that is a spider mastermind lol. Well now I know that can miss when its a billion miles away.

>>4493230
>except the sng is overkill against weaker enemies

you mean the grunts who only appear in the first level of any episode? from that point is just ogres all the way through

>>4493424
>or a spider mastermind or something
haha i was going to say, you spoke too soon
yeah it's well out of the way though. i spent ages trying to get the wandering cyberdemon to fight with it.

Wondering if you guys could help a shitter out - saw this thread and figured I'd give Quake a go as I've never played any of them, looked through the infographic and I've got everything running, I've disable the texture filtering etc. as I'm keen to run it as close to how it would have originally been experienced.

Any of you know if there's a way I can have it pillarboxed to 4:3 on my 16:9 monitor? I can't seem to find the option anywhere.

>>4493441
Disable image scaling in your GPU.

>this goofass archvile killing and reviving his chaingunners over and over again

>>4493420
>oh you mean like having a palette range whose colormap entries don't map the colour to darker shades.
Yup. It's quite a brilliant trick. I think rekkr uses that too.

>>4493441
It's totally fine to play it at your native resolution, playing in something stupid like 640x480 or whatever the fuck doesn't make the game any better

>this one lone tree out in the middle of nowhere

>this one lone tree out in the middle of nowhere that makes me mess up my post

>>4493443
Cool, thanks. Though in my case it seems I actually had to enable it
- when I changed the setting my screen went blank with 'no signal,' but after a restart It's working now.

>>4493463
life finds a way

>>4493416
You were right, this is pretty hard, medkits seem really sparse, but I like it.

>>4492195
make a better particle system for GZDoom
Right now all sfx use an awful lot of actors, each of which follows decorate logic and eats up a lot of performance.

Particles operate on formulaic logic and eat ~6 times less performance.
Reworking pasrticles and adding the ability to define a bit more comples behaviour with a few formulas, special commands, giving them basic animation and level-geometry-only physical interaction would allow people to greately improve performance of their mods.

>>4493237
>chaingun talks
>chaingun snarkily repliles to doomguy's thoughts
every time.

>>4493143
the main problem with modern doom is that it copied Painkiller's gameplay formula and not Doom one.

>>4493484
Is performance really an issue, I mean outside of shit like nuts.wad or 100000 revenants it's fine.

>>4493493
I think it copied Serious Sam too, what with the constant obligatory monster gauntlets.

>>4493493
It most certainly did not. Did you ever even play Painkiller?

>>4493143
>>4493493
I also think they missed the opportunity of bringing back the status bar face.

>>4493502
>I also think they missed the opportunity of bringing back the status bar face.
This is one of the features I miss in all the Carmageddon sequels, too

>>4493493
The main problem I have is that pretty much all of the maps are shit. The one before the Foundry is good, but the rest are so linear.

>>4493501
>enter room
>get locked out
>kill monsters to leave the room
happens even in hell levels

>>4492195
make a few sectors for malfunctioning elevators? could be fun

>>4493143
>>4493493

You can tell the devs understanding of classic doom was
>you don't have to reload
>you fight a bunch of monsters
>the monsters are these demons
>you're big bad space marine
And that's about it. It feels like another game that's pretending to be doom, or like someone just made a really extensive mod that changed all the textures and weapons and stuff to look like doom. Even the 3rd or 4th level in Doom 1 is more complex than pretty much everything in Doom 4. Every fight blends together and none stand out in my mind after playing it while there's bunch of fights in 1 and 2 that I'll never forget. This shit >>4493514 is like every fight and 3/4ths or more of the monsters in the whole game are teleporting in periodically rather than just being there in the world. The game also basically forcing you to do executions because enemy pinatas are the only consistent way to stay stocked up says that the devs had no idea how to properly pace fights and levels. Health and ammo capacity being up-gradable instead of just shit you pick up also doesn't add anything to the game.

If it was just one or two of these things instead of all of them it'd be a lot closer to actual doom, but instead it's just a decent but bland FPS with a doom paint job.

Will Golden Souls 2 come out in 2018?

Cacodemon's design in Doom 64 made me remind of something else and i couldn't tell why, until this sudden realization.

>>4493598
Sure, there's still a lot of differences, but still.

>>4493598
>>4493604
for me the d64 cacodmon reminded me of another thing, you might have seen it before.

>>4493598
>>4493604
>>4493621
thinkin bout those meatballs

>>4493604
>>4493621
The cacodemen in D64 seems like an obvious attempt at a Pain Elemental. I wonder why they made the actual D64 PE a giant shoggoth type abomination?

>>4493403
I kind of find it a bit underwhelming, Epic 2 was by far better, much better atmosphere and much better exploration, though with more monsters than I'd usually like. Probably because it was made much later after Alexander had become much better at mapping.

I did kind of like some of the architecture, mostly on the second map, the castle structures were pretty to look at, but the map is very desolate, and not so much in an interesting and scary way, but more like there's not a lot to do. The music isn't very good, and quickly gets grating, too, because you're left wandering long stretches.
The castle structures don't have a lot going on inside them, and actually kind of feels like what would otherwise constitute a small and tight map, but spread out extremely thin.

Some good ambushes here and there, and the last fighting, where numerous mancubi are let out on the wide plain, teleporting randomly, is actually a *really* good encounter, genuinely. I was taken by surprise and really had to leg it to avoid become roast, really had to weave and dance, this I felt was the highlight of Gravity. I'd actually go so far as to recommend someone to try out Gravity just to fight that encounter, just because I think it's such a good idea and I think people should take note from it.

>>4493598
>>4493604
>>4493621
He obviously looks like a PE too, but the interesting part about him and Scarfy is that we might have just found another reason for Doomguy to be in Smash.

>>4493509
>linear
They're as linear as old Doom maps though, you find a key, then go to the key's door, rinse and repeat, with some non linear levels here and there with intersections that let you progress in a different order. Not to mention the secrets which are a lot more complex to get in general than the old game and can be more than just one room, rather, it can be a shortcut unlock.

>>4493659
Some of classic Doom's secret had areas and opening segments that were time based (which was the case with that area in E1M1 and how you'd get to E1M9)
Did that happened in D44M?

>>4493497
Throw in 4 or 5 simultaneous explosions in mods like Guncaster or Trailblaser and my PC that can handle modern Doom at 70 fps on high goes from 200 fps down to 50. Launching a bfg in guncaster always brings my frames down to sub-30.
All the explosions spawn at least 7 sfx actors, each of them spawns trails that are actors on their own,etc and that ends up with hundreds of actors for each effect with dozens of effects on screen.
9 out of 10 of those actors could've easily been done as a particle, if GZDooms particle system would've been more flexible and didn't try to emulate Quake to a t.

>>4493493
>>4493548
>>4493509
>>4493514
It's not a flawless game, there's room for improvements. I think what Doom 4 is now can be used as a good foundation for an even better game.

Level design I agree is kind of weak.

It's about to be [CURRENT YEAR]+1 you guys. What's the most /doom/ way to celebrate the day after because I'm on vacation right now?

>>4493708
the most /doom/ way to celebrate is by doing a doom cum tribute

Guys, I bought Q1 off of gog.com, but the soundtrack is missing, how can I add it back into the game?

>>4493720
https://www.gog.com/forum/quake_series/an_even_easier_way_of_handling_quakes_music_problem_no_converting_or_downloading_additional_files

>>4493394

they are literally in the same mod thread first post

>>4493776
Oh fuck, I'm a tard

>>4493717
have a doom cum bb

https://youtu.be/M6qqwhauRAA
>wait thst quote in the beginning
>its from fucking hexen
Any other songs with retro fps samples?

>>4493848
I know I've heard the Icon of Sin quote here and there

Type out the sound an archvile makes.

>>4493857
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4493857
Whurrrerurrereu

>>4493857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlP1WYoDKd8

>>4493857
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>4493848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBn7zRVElY

DJ Invincible & Matticus -- Dibby DJ

tfw you fell for the VR meme

>>4493848
Rammsteins "Wollt Ihr Das Bett In Flammen Sehen?" uses doomguy deathscream frequently and later in track there is a shotgun cycle sound that I believe is from same sound library

>>4493848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2gy1Evb1Kg

The video for TLC's Unpretty
The "Warning" voice from Shadow Warrior, a stock sample which I used to think was recorded for the game.

Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IscAilxaBqM (Rotten Sound - Doom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNUC5GOpUlc (Rammstein - Wollt ihr das Bett in Flammen sehen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB0iX6JLhAY (MF Doom - Elder Blossoms)

>>4493394
>>4493776
They don't seem to quite work properly though.

>>4493878
fuck, i can already feel the motion sickness

I did an experiment.

Maybe if GZD lit each texel individually and did some noise and posterizing, then people would be more amenable to GL lights. The crisp look could be retained.

I would make a suggestion on the forums but I've lost hope in GZD's future.

>>4493926
I have already suggested this. Yes, per-texel lighting would be much more fitting, but you would need to 1.) write the patch yourself and 2.) get it past Graf

>>4493857

Well, with Graf rage-quiting and BD getting the ModDB award, 2017 ended in quite the bang.

Here's to 2018, ya mongs.

>>4493967
>reddit mod winning a popularity contest
>worthy of celebration

>>4493929

or fork the god damn port and do what you want

>>4493902

I didn't try it yet

>>4493967
>the ModDB award
Which one? I saw Castlevania got the totality one

What happened with Graf? Just give me a quick rundown or link to a forum

>>4494002
A map that Graf hated got a cacoward and then he threw a bitchy fit over it

>>4493967
I'm completly out of touch of Doom representative figures on the internet, I just play and mod stuff; who is Graf? I've keep reading about him here since a few days ago but I don't know who is him, Google didn't gave me any useful results.
I don't want to start a eceleb drama shit here tho, even less on /vr/, so if it implies a shitfest here I can live without knowing him

>>4494002
>>4494009

Is there a /vr/ server?

>>4494012
Oh fuck, didn't know he was the GZDoom dev. Thanks for the spoonfeed.
What a shame.

>>4494009
it's the gzdoom developer

>>4493878
So, how is it?
I'm unironically thinking of buying Vive.
I'll definitely will as soon as Skyrim VR gets on PC and gets modding support.

Also, any way of making Gzdoom's vr feature to work with google cardboard?

I'm already in 2018. And it sucks.
TAKE ME BACK.

>>4493857
buruburuberebiribiri

>>4494018
>shame
its a good thing he stops development for a while, at least mods will be stable for a while instead of breaking after every few updates

What are your Doom related wished for 2018?

>>4494054
*Wishes

>>4493253
Wrong person

>>4494017

Nope. Would be interesting to do for 2018.

>>4493243
i hope that guy is still here who was figuring how to rip some cool stuff

>>4494054
>>4494061
I want to finish and release one of my projects.

>>4494026
I have a Vive. It's pretty fun desu. I always find myself screwing around in h3vr. Also the vive home backdrop is aesthetic as fuck.

>>4494054
GZDoom stability, maybe QZDoom taking over. The instability screws with the entire community and our image outside of it.

>>4494012
graf is legit autistic or something, acts like a complete child and takes the bait

>>4494018
he's always throwing tantrums, he'll be back

Does anyone have the alpha sprites that romero dumped on twitter? The few dropbox links I've found for it are kill.

>>4493974
I meant the drama, probably should have prefixed it with that.

>>4493991
Mod of the year

http://www.moddb.com/groups/2017-mod-of-the-year-awards/features/players-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

>>4494098

Seconding, a mirror would be nice, please.

can someone link me to a compiled wad of doomrpg that works with the current release of doomrla
i don't know how to do anything, please help

>>4494098
tried looking for "romero's epic springcleaning" on the zdf?

>Moving from Sign of Evil to Indian Summers

Is it possible to get a stand alone version of smooth doom's blood system. Its a bit less over the top than nashgore while being not being too realistic like droplets. But mostly, not like the literal cluster fuck that is ketchup. If not, how could I go about making it?

>>4494128

What you'd need to do is to open up Smooth Doom's files and take out the deco/gore.txt file and put it in a separate .pk3 as its own Decorate file, along with the called sprites/sounds.
You wouldn't be able to have any of the gibs, though.

>>4494120
Nothing came up, but I did find something that might have it. I'm checking the zip to see.

>>4494026

Blurry af and the novelty wears off fast. Skip the Vive and CV1 and wait for next-gen systems.

>>4494120
>>4494147
I looked through it all, and there's a good portion of the dump, mostly the WIP wall sprites and flats along with some decoratioins, but there's still a good chunk of sprites missing, which is mainly what I'm after. All the full dumps I find link back to the same dead DB.

>>4493230
>>4493256

> sng replacement
An 8 barreled chaingun looking thing which just fires 8 nails at a time (72 damage per pop). I guess kinda like a shotgun, except no spread, though the nails could be offset from each other in a ring.
> it could actually be 4 projectiles each of which just look like 2 nails side by side, that way each one does the same damage as a silver nail and preserves gibbing capability.

It could fire at the same rate as the SNG, so thats one blast every 4 frames, or you could even have it slowed down to one blast every 6 frames and it would still have a decided advantage over the regular nailgun (but without making the regular one obsolete). I say that it could still be as effective because you're delivering 8 nails worth of damage all upfront, you could fire and dive behind cover.
> Also keep in mind that on quad damage each blast does 288 damage and will invariably one-shot everything but a shambler, fiend, or vore.

>>4493261
>>4493276
The way I would balance the SSG in doom is fire 4 volleys of pellets:

The first is a 2 pellets with a range of 196 and relatively narrow spread (4x4 degrees) which cause 35 damage flat. The target may have damage resistances to this depending on species. This is supercombine damage so its meta, it doesnt actually represent two big pellets.
> If they get hit with this they get a token, and if they die from it, they are put in a different state where they can still receive more of the buckshot from the blast - preventing overpenetration from the shotgun blast while also allowing them to be gibbed by it.

The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th volleys deliver 4 pellets each and have the standard spread, but have a limited range of 448, 896 for the 2nd and 3rd volleys respectively.
> The 4th volley doesnt apply to the supercombine damage because it just has the standard damage type. Which means a zombieman can soak up to 10 pellets at point blank range, and 4 pellets will remain to hit whatever is behind him.

>>4494173
Found the full thing.
https://www.doomworld.com/linguica/doom-textures/Thumbnails.html

>>4494034
australian? russian? japanese?

>>4493078
Colourful hell updated to 0.925

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1033654#p1033654

>>4494216
nice

>>4494067
What do we want to play?
Doom wads? Quake maps? Half-Life mods?

>>4493287

The zombie sounds were one or the things I enjoyed the most. That and the headshots with the shotgun, interrupting the cry.

It was like: "I will ea-BADOOM!!..."

>>4493862
Underrated post

>>4493857
brl,rlubrLBRLRLRLRLR???

>>4494272
>here comes another chinese earthquake

How are the Doom 3 BFG versions of Doom 1 and 2?

>>4494276

>>4493640

Maybe it was already assinged to it, whensome artist came up with such abomination, (which I love btw) and they didn't find another way to put it into the game, so they switched sprites

>>4494281
Damn, didn't think of that

>>4493240
>it's a "you can kill the chaingunner sniper but another will immediately teleport in his place until you're out of ammo" episode

>>4493493
The level design is okay, the real problem to me was the glory kills - specifically how easy/common they were (making them lose their novelty) and how they interrupt the flow of combat.

>>4494290
or an archvile is right behind them ready to revive them each time and you can't kill the vile because it's behind a wall except for a pixel-wide gap so that the vile can revive the zombies.

>>4494280
>censored nazis and medikits
>adds two levels you can find on /idgames
not that good

>>4493857
OH MY MIND

I just played through the Sega 32X version of Doom. I don't recommend it.

>>4494307
Still better than 3DO.

>>4494310
at least the 3do had jamming tunes.

>>4494280
i also heard they slowdowned some of the fire ball enemies

is there a list of summon names for the monsters from colorfull hell?

>>4493502
Well the status bar face is scattered all over the game, only it's not part of the HUD.

top lol

>>4494351

>>4493076
WHAT WAS THE MOD OF THE YEAR?

If we count updated versions then I'd go with the updated Death Wish for Blood.

>>4494326
download slade, open the wad and peek around

>>4494387

Lilith.pk3 and Void and Rainbow were my favorite mods of 2017.

Happy new year guys, it's just ticked over here.

Here's hoping we all get something great done on our doom projects this year!

>>4494351
Context? Link?

>>4494424
same to you. we must be in the same timezone.

>>4494253
I used to have a server that played all of these things. Almost no one joined (except the hexen games for some reason). Wasn't worth the upkeep after a while.

>>4494470
Retro FPS is dead enough that we'd probably be better off with semi-regular playdates than just having a server up all the time.

>>4494281
Come over, come over, come over, and listen to me talk about JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN Madden.

>>4494280
They're like, serviceable, in that most of the game is there and most of it plays and functions like it's supposed to, but it's kind of inferior, and has some sloppy edits, partially because the Red Cross is fucking gay, and partially because Germany is fucking gay.
It's not the best experience, but it's also far from the worst, you could be playing it on the 3DO.

The Doom 3 port isn't bad IMO, I always thought the flashlight should be a quick button function, the game is best played as a run and gun shooter and the horror doesn't really work that well in 3, so might as well make the best of it. The gunfighting actually gets pretty fun and exciting once you get into it, and the chainsaw is SO fun, if you put your mind to it, you can reliably defeat most monsters with it and not face much difficulty.

>>4494474
Does the game get better when you get other weapons? I played up until I first found the shotgun, and it was too underwhelming for me to want to continue.

>>4494480
Yes, the shotgun in Doom 3 is, in my opinion, fucking terrible, because the range is beyond pitiful, it's basically jizzing distance, or all the pellets spread out at some extremely bizarre angle and you don't hit shit.

The chaingun is more satisfying, as it gives off a meaty *THOMP* with each shot, and the plasma is strangely satisfying with it's gentle *PEW* noise and bright blue shiny shot.
The chainsaw in Doom 3 is the highlight to me, because it both sounds powerful and horrible, but is, it does a really good DPS that can let you deal with imps, pinkies, revenants, cacos (when you can reach them), hellknights, pinkies, arch-viles, even the tentacle commandos. All you gotta do is to bumrush the enemy as soon as you see them and carve them like a Thanksgiving turkey.

Often, many enemies will do a brief pause to yell at you when they see you, and this is your chance to sprint and and buzz them. It gets really frantic and exhilarating in my opinion, and it's the highlight of the game to me.

>>4494017
we regularly play in a zandronum room, if you're on steam and are part of the /vr/ group you should get notifications for when a meeting is up.

>>4494494
Why not post in the thread?

>>4494497
we're too cool for that.

>>4494494
>the /vr/ group
More specifically the /doom/ group.

>>4494501
i'm too cool for Steam

>>4494505
doo doo doo doo doo doo

>>4494504
I'm too cool for you.

>>4494510
I'm too sexy for /vr/, too sexy for /vr/, too sexy by far

>>4494502
Post it.

>>4492251

Time to take a stab at this mapset. Got to map02.
Don't like that it's default music, but the layouts are really interesting. Like a prototype of the modern mapping trend where everything is angles and curves.
I prefer more box-y style layouts, but it's still a lot of fun to go through so far.

>>4494518
Want to co-op it?

>>4494523

Maybe tomorrow, but not tonight, sorry.
Some friends want to play Push with me shortly, so I'll be jumping along into that.

>>4493337
It's great, you should be playing it right now

Post filters

i tried to celebrate the new year, by making an oblige map, because i didn't catch up any fireworks

>>4493076
>356 DAYS

What are you taking 9 days off for?

Anyone have that archive of obscure japanese wads

>>4494603
sleeping

>>4494606

I don't think there is an archive, to my knowledge.

>>4494606
Doesn't exist.

3 hours till 2018 where I'm at. I suppose this could potentially signal my entry into doing this shit.
I made a full set of Zombieman sprites wearing the marine helmet. I might do a new version of the cracked and bloody helmet zombie from R667, or the other two zombies, if I ever feel like it.
PNG format, so ZDoom required. Feel free to use these for replacement sprites/mods/Z& skins, convert for vanilla doom, whatever.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/uwb2ev8jo5xyzez,x2xfc3n5hxjubpg/shared

>>4494316
This. I like them more than general MIDI.

Is there a way to use that syntheziser in doom?

>>4494505
>>4494507

This is my childhood. I was a weird child.

>>4494276
>>4494281

None of you noticed the ??? at the end of >>4494272 sempai... i did that to emulate the real sound...

>>4494445

sergeant huehue blocked project brutality from running with his map pack extermination day

00:00 here

happy new year faggots

>>4494689
>tfw 2 hours

>>4494680
why tho

>>4494705
PB is the biggest BD fork and he sees it as a threat

>>4494680
How difficult would it be to disable?

>>4494719
Nvm. That is what I get for skimming.

>>4494716
But isn't he working with the PB devs now?

>>4493085
>>4493178
My gf does crochet and knitting.

I wonder if I can get her to do some Doom sprites.

Question: I know we can make hd replacement textures for the walls and ceilings, but what about weapon sprites? Is it possible to bump the resolution on them as well?

>>4494689
wrong

>>4494689
im not a faggot.

just finished disjunction
10/10

>>4494794
>claims to not be a faggot
>uses 4chan

>>4494828
i can't be a faggot since i'm a girl.

>>4494831
>being a girl on the internet
yeah right hahaha please go out with me im lonely

What does /doom/ think of Happy Time Circus 1 and 2?

>>4494831
?What are feminists

>>4494628
Thanks, anon. Have a good one.

>>4494843
those are called cunts.

/v/ here.
I think you guys dropped something: >>>/v/401822508

>>4494858
yeah that's run of the mill autism.

/vr/doom is a nice place overall. Some people just aren't well in the head

>>4494858
yeah, that guy is assmad people aren't going to his /vg/ threads

>>4494858
of course I don't need to say this out loud but be sure to report it. these threads belong on /vr/

>>4494858
Yeah no.

>>4494831
faggettina

>>4494839
...no... please no...

please don't make me run from fluffy anymore...

>>4494861
Has he figured out why people don't go to /vg/? His autergy would be better spent getting assmad about /vg/ threads, he'd accomplish as much.

>>4494858
Aren't generals not allowed on /v/?

>>4494880
It seems to depend on the Jerries. If it doesn't really have a /vg/ tumor you can count on, sometimes it sticks around long enough to finish.

>>4494880
>Implying people follow the rules on /v/

>>4494858
>copying the OP and news post

kek, imagine being this butthurt over a 4chan general, not to mention the /v/tards shitting on this thread and /vr/ as well

>>4494880
They're not. The shitposting is escalating sharply. It's equally impressive and worrying

>>4494880
They're not but that didn't keep them from filling the catalogue with Neogaf threads after Tyler Malka went down

>>4494880
Yes, but as you can see from the still-standing thread, mods don't exist on /v/. Really makes you think about why two regular shitposters keep trying to push this "move".

>>4494891
What's he upset about anyway? He keeps going on about cancer/censorship etc.

>The impostor general just got moved to /vg/

>>4494880
If they keep recurring too much, the threads need to go to /vg/. Though New Vegas threads seem to be well off.

>>4494894
I think its because the orderlies here pay more attention or something. Not hard, /vr/ doesn't flow as fast as the sewage pipes of /v/.

>>4494894
I'm assuming he's the same guy that makes a lot of that really inflammatory posts and gets his shit deleted. Claiming he's being censored from his autistic little crusade.

>>4494897
There's two of them now

>>4494878

He posts a lot about how there was a supposed voting victory, but there's an obvious question. If so many people are apparently in favor of moving to /vg/, why is nobody actually posting in the /vg/ threads? They've had five topics in the past two days, not a single one more than 10 different posters.

>>4494894

He doesn't like how mods/janitors delete his posts, near as I can tell. Which they've been doing on /vg/, too, several of the /vg/ topics were outright deleted. Does the Doominati /vr/ conspiracy extend to /vg/ as well???????
And it's stupid to try and do a move about, anyway, because if you really hate 4chan's mods there's another chan website you can go to, and you can see how its Doom threads have been going.
Just say "mods are fags" and go about your day.

tl;dr: just fucking play doom

happy new year amerifat doomers

>>4494908
Happy New years. I still love you guys

>>4494910
ha gay!

I love you too bro

>>4494906
>voting victory
Who the fuck (other than socks)would have agreed to that? I would find it hard to believe anyone here is new enough to think that's a good idea. Retro may move slow, but you only have to go to the more active neighboring countries to see how badly more activity in a meme tier environment can go.

>>4494906
also something about IRC, which #vr has had literally nothing happening in it for the past two years but is now suddenly controlling the threads somehow

>>4494908
>>4494910
love both you nigs too
crack open doom and play through a good mapset
what've you got on your play list tonight?

>>4494891
They moved it.

>>4494891
When will these retards realize that they will never get their way?

>>4494894
Go some threads back in the archives to where the Sarais autism zip was posted, I believe it was a dropbox link. That's the one going on about censorship and circlejerking, he's got some really absurd delusions going on. The other is Nambona, who has been annoying Doom communities for longer than /vr/'s existence. He's a Terryfag, which should explain everything if you know what that means. In more 4chan-oriented terms, he makes the WAD equivalents of brapposting and then gets really upset when people don't give him (You)s.

Honestly, if not for how cripplingly autistic these guys are, this would be a great solution for everybody. By this point, /vr/ is well-established as the 4chan house of Doom, even to external communities thanks to our WAD releases. If these guys were able to actually make self-containment threads on /vg/ and just post all their trash there and leave everyone else alone, I don't think anyone here would complain. As you can see though, they can't even get the board right.

>>4494927
>containment
If only the hacker known as 4Chan could throw them some bots to keep them happy.

>>4494917
>love both you nigs too
>crack open doom and play through a good mapset
>what've you got on your play list tonight?
I'm taking a break tonight, I got pizza to eat and NES games to play with an old friend. With the start of the new year I need to get back to work on stuff

>>4494934
>pizza and NES with a friend
https://youtu.be/EFG7cEsP-ac
I don't know if I can ever have things like that again.

>>4493857
WLLRRAaaAAaAAaAAAA

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BEST RETRO FPS OF ALL TIME THAT AREN'T THE STANDARD ONES

>>4494952
list all the "standard" ones first.

>>4494952
>that aren't the standard ones
POWERSLAVE

>>4494952
SYSTEM SHOCK
IF YOU COUNT IT AS AN FPS, WHICH YOU SHOULD BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY A MORE COMPLICATED DOOM BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU DON'T

IT'S STILL ONE OF THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE REGARDLESS OF GENRE AND YOU SHOULD PLAY IT ANYWAY

>>4494917
Nothing cause I'm on vacation, but gonna go back home in the morning. I think I'm gonna continue my playthrough of TJoM5.

>>4494952
Wow GMOTA is taking a weird new direction

>>4494952
Star Wars: Dark Forces

Happy New Year guys!

>>4494952
Heretic.

>>4494952
In Pursuit of Greed

What should my first WAD of the year be?

>>4494978
BTSX e2

>>4494978
scythe 2

>>4494982
Consider it done my liege

>>4494983
First come first served, I'll play that second

>>4494952
playing damage inc it's alright for a marathon clone

what does /doom/ drive? Truck? turbo Volvo wagon? Geo metro? The bus?

I think i'm finally going to try my hand at quake mapping this year. What do you guys have planned in terms of new projects?

>>4494952
started qua- I mean, chasm the rift last night
it's... eh

>>4494952
CyClones
Terminator: Future Shock
Chasm: The Rift
Witchaven

>>4494993
motorcycle and a truck.

>>4494993

>>4494993
>turbo Volvo wagon?
I fucking wish, I live near a stupidly stereotypical green-everything all-natural LGBTGBTGBBQWTF wine-tasting-and-no-shoes collegetown so every single pre-Ford era Volvo gets scrapped up by filthy yuppies within hours. Settled for a land barge instead. No ragrets.

>>4494997
>1. Release a map
>1a. Any map, just fucking do it you cock you've been fucking around making stupid map hack test maps for two years now
>2. procrastinate and cry a lot
>3. ????
>4. go back to 1

>>4494993
Jeep JK Sport 4 door

>>4494179
That sounds needlessly (heh) complicated.

>>4495050
how many fucking maps are there in this wad? i just want it to be over.

>>4494952
Marathon is top comf. Just remember to disable bobbing.

>>4494952
MIDI Maze

>>4493857
yyyyyyyyyyyyhhhhwwwwww

>>4494952
Pathways into Darkness. Halo progenitor meets UltimaUnderworld-very-lite meets Doom3 combat
Cybermage (when played keyboard-only, with correctly customized controls) on hard difficulty. Ridiculously varied game gameplay-wise, insane density of content, also, the best level layouts Bradley has ever mustred. Also, DO NOT play the tutorial mission, it's shit, just dive into the game and bear through the 1st level.
>>4494957
PC-Powerslave is like HeXen1-lite. Extremely good level layouts, but very simplistic (even compared to other Build FPS games) combat, including some very shit bossfights, and clunky movement (strafe left/right keys are basically shortcuts for strafekey+turnleft/turnright, meaning, you can't strafe and turn at the same time either way). But, overall, decent, really decent. Console version are supposed to be something like "Metroid Prime 0", but I haven't played them yet.
>>4494973
Heretic has like the best bossfight in all of 90s FPS games (d'Sparil on the last difficulty).

>>4494952
Shogo Mad fulfills my 90's fps and weeb fetish

>>4495007
HOWDY PRARTNER

>>4494998
I'm the guy that originally posted about it. I said it wasn't too bad but after some more levels I've realized it's terrible. Most unintuitive, frustrating level design ever.

>>4495162
if I had the knowhow I would rip out the assets from the game, body part mutilation system included, and find a way to hack it into a quake TC with proper level design.

it has some solid concepts, it's just that it tries to mimic quake so fucking hard and it's so blatant about it but the map design is straight outta wolfenstein 3d, it doesn't really play to the strengths of either. the progression is nonsensical, the encounters are painfully dull and frankly put combat in general is downright garbage.

this game is the textbook definition of lost potential.

>>4494910
Happy New Year to you too

I love you too

>>4493267
Quenching Urges of Constant Killing is retarded and needs to be ignored.
Xmas jam is dope tho, def recommend

>>4494952
Eradicator is pretty damn good gameplay-wise. It's pretty much "Build FPS made for mouselook" (although 1) it doesn't use Build engine; 2) the mouselook is mandatory due to absence of auto-aim of any kind; 3) it's actually the best mouselook implementation in 2.5D FPS games, at least, non-modded ones). Overall, it's something like sci-fi version of Blood (there is its own weapon gimmick, camera-in-camera, and tons of inventive weapons in general; there is comparably dreary atmosphere and comparably limited palette; the layouts are comparably cubic; etc.) although without the gags AND WITHOUT A SINGLE FUCKING HITSCANNER PERIOD. It's really monotonous (visually, first and foremost) though, despite all the attempts to liven it up through variations of mission goals. It also has some really anal first person platforming.

Anyway, as I've said, it's pretty much "Blood: Sci-Fi Mandatory Mouselook Deadly Serious Not A Single Hitscanner Edition", and it's a very good game in its own right (gameplay-wise, I rate it higher than any of Marathons, both Dark Forces - maybe, MotS excluding, and, yes, higher than Blood).

>>4493076
What happened to Quake expo this year? I was waiting for it

>>4494858
Didn't this faggot got banned from both /vr/ and /vg/ for his autism fit two days ago? He's running out of vidya boards, at this point we will see him doing Doom threads in /vp/

this just in: it's all our fault lads

I know this thread is for old DOOM, but where do I talk about new DOOM?

>>4495356
in /trash/.

>>4495356
>>>/v/

>>4495357
upvoted!

>>4495356
uh, the non-retro video games board? shame it's such a shit heap, but that's the consequences of popularity for you.

>>4495354
What happened and why is having a hissy fit with /vr of all places/?

>>4495364
cause they made fun of him and 4chan is popular so it's natural that he'd check out its old doom general thread.

>>4495181
>Quenching Urges of Constant Killing is retarded
That it is.

>and needs to be ignored.
Why? It's something different that might please some people here.

>>4495367
Might be that, I've checked his latest ModDB comments, they are pretty heated up. He also mentions ZDoom forums for a reason.

Anyone has a complete guide about modding Build games? I might want to do my own game/TC in that engine, but unlike doom there are barely any useful or complete information about it, especially when it comes to anything else than mapping. I want to cover every ground of it, from the menu, fonts, NPCs, weapons, etc.
If not, where should I ask about it? I have experience in doom modding but I've never touched Build games modding tools.

>>4493153
>>4493160
So how do you guys tell when you're playing Mario or Luigi?

>>4495382
I'm not THAT colorblind, you donut

>>4495364
Who gives a shit

>>4495389
>you donut
Im using that from now on

>>4495398

>>4495392
i do. i like these threads and i don't like to see popular figures talking shit about them, especially when it's not justified. why should we be made a scapegoat?

>>4495376
>fidget spinner mod
Nobody says that, but it's not like strawmen have to be accurate in the first place
Funny thing is that BD feels like a joke mod, in some way or another, so i find it funny that Mark or his fans take it seriously, like it's a fucking Tails Gets Trolled scenario

>>4495420
But tails gets trolled has actually good writing and is endearing.
High shovel

>>4495364
he was once apart of the community, till he started to act like a faggot & we told him out because we're not like his brewtil doomkiddies

combine~

>>4495354
as usual, mark is a thin-skinned bitch

>>4494952
It ain't the best but it's the closest to your pic I know of.

>>4495496
what mod?

>>4495532
La Tailor Girl.

>>4495354
For someone who says he doesn't care about criticism, he sure does care a lot about the whole five posts in any given thread shitting on him.

>>4495496
Capturing and training wild p*keymans, I mean, wild clothes when

>>4493126
>never saw it before
>I see it now

only a fool would buy into their paranoia

Thanks to whoever mentioned Going Down in the last thread. Twas a really fun wad.

>>4495610
Anyone have a good music wad to overlay on top of it?

>>4495618

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gyoeqssa1l177e5/btsx_e1_music.wad?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/14ttmbzdapicfm8/aaliens_music.wad?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/clufl1j271yz6ot/MM2MUS.WAD?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9jy48ho6kcdq91/tvr%21midi.wad?dl=1
Pick your poison.

>>4495562
i'm pretty sure the one post he screenshotted and posted on his twitter (the one insinuating the award had been bought, to which there was mostly a negative reaction from other /vr/ posters) was made by a troll who proceeded to immediately send him the link, which he of course fell for.

>>4495364
It's just the time of the month.

You think all that blood in the mod is just for show? No, that represents Mark's extremely heavy flow.

>>4495649
lal

>>4495649
not funny.

>>4495652
I disagree.

>>4494831
>no feminine penis picture yet
c'mon now

Report and Ignore

>>4495050
>tfw terry wad

>>4494993
I'm having a kid so I sold my car a fiat uno fire

>>4495770
congratulations on bringing in a new generation of doomers

>>4495770
Congratulations anon!

>>4495770
Who did the art?

>>4495791
https://criticalhitsam.deviantart.com/art/Chest-buster-Doom-Guy-416557232

My previous Zombieman sprites from yesterday, but better. I fixed some offset issues and minor graphical oddities, as well as some egregious transparency issues.
Now in convenient zip format.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ezq160qj762j03x/POSSNEW.zip

If anyone cares, I'm about a quarter of the way through with the shotgunguy sprites.

>>4495414
SGTM4 is a fucking complete joke. He's just a pissy thin skinned child who can't understand why anyone wouldn't get down on their knees and suck his tiny cock. He believes himself to be some kind of messiah who "saved doom" or "brought it back for modern audiences" or some shit. He can't believe we wouldn't constantly be thanking him for doing so.
>>4495420
High shovel!

>>4495815
I know that TGT is great and all, but i meant that if Mark and fans were aware of what BD actually is and was seen more of a joke project, it would have been accepted and some stuff would have been justified

>>4495819
tails gets trolled wad when

>>4495626
Thanks mate. Forgot how good MM2's music is.

>>4495380
One thing people in the doom community take for granted is the quality of the tools available, and I guess the "unity" of those tools for lack of a better term. If you want to make doom mods all you really need is DB2 and SLADE (I realize there are other tools out there).
The build engine on the other hand (caveat: its been a few years since I've looked) is a janky mess and that is very much reflected in its tools. Mapster is the only real map editor to speak of,
and it pretty much looks like vanilla DOS Build but with a few bells and whistles. In terms of every thing else (CON code, ART files, and the GRP archive they all get stuffed into, etc) theres like 8 different tools, each one seemingly
abandoned in 2003 or thereabouts. In many cases original developer tools are still used.
For ports, Eduke32 is the only real game in town. If this sounds like I'm shitting on the build engine and its community, I'm not.
If you want more info the best place to ask would probably be: http://duke4.net/
Or you can hit up the Eduke wiki, which has some stuff about the con language (con = decorate/acs basically) and other topics. I think they were working on a new lua based scripting system, but again its been a while.
Best of luck my dude.

>>4495831
Thanks anon, I was waiting for this reply.
I'll ask in duke4 then, What worries me the most is how to create weapons and NPCs, in Doom it's 'somewhat' easy with all the tools avalible out there, but when it comes to Duke Nukem it's completly foreign to me, having no clue where to even start, or how hard is compared to modding Doom.
Again, thanks, I'll probably post results if this becomes something

>>4495815
>>4495819
fuck off sarais

don't, not even ironically.

Epic is actually pretty damn good, almost as good as Epic 2.
I had kind of low expectations from Gravity and the first map of Epic, but it really picks up.

sprite shadows 1.5

it's like the light source is over the sprite, it doesn't look like in the screenshots

>>4495865
This is how they were in Duke3d