/vr/ - Retro Games

>ideal racer

>>4492571
Sega Rally was my jam. I like both sonewhat but overall I like Forza more than Mario Kart.

Some of the most fun racing is unironically Just Cause 2 because of Sega Rally.

I prefer more realistic over arcade unless it's Wipeout but I haven't played many /vr/ ones. Which would you recommend? Grid and Dirt Rally are my favourites.

I don't have much experience with racing games but out of what I have played, my ideal at the moment is stuff like SNES F-Zero. It's fast, fun in quick bursts, its stylish and it's got great music. I like Outrun and Top Gear as well.
And Burnout 3.

>>4492571
>What's your ideal racer?
Burnout, the racer where the rubberbanding is for the player instead of the AI.
But for /vr/ purposes, Gran Turismo 2.

I just noticed all my favourite arcade racers are from the sixth gen.
Probably because they are a dying genre since then.
Anyway my retro choices are F-Zero X, Wipeout XL and Carmageddon, the latter I see very rarely mentioned here.

>>4492631
There hasn't been a good arcade racer since Ridge Racer 2 PSP.

>>4492640
Ridge Racer 7 on PS3 was fun. Same with Motor Storm Pacific Rift.

Not retro I know pls no banno

>>4492571
I really enjoyed RR Type 4

>>4492640
I had fun with some recent titles but 2006 was the point of no return for me too.

>>4492646
And Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2 On DC was fun.

I really like the health bar idea. Very original for a racer.

>>4492649
That is probably my favorite arcade racer ever.

>>4492585
>Some of the most fun racing is unironically Just Cause 2 because of Sega Rally
How? I am genuinely interested.

>>4492653
>>4492649
Is this the last straight port of arcade machine game on home consoles/PC?

>>4492723
There was After Burner Climax.

>>4492631
>Carmaggedon
My man. I remember using the option to remove gore because I was afraid my parents wouldn't let me play it. (they didn't care about this kind of thing, I just had a pure mind and felt it was wrong to run over people. But then came Grand Theft Auto and...)

Oh, and I love top-down view racing, like Micro Machines, and I spent more time running around town than completing missions in GTA 1 and 2. Not really retro now, I used to play a top-down racing game called GeneRally. Really simple 3d graphics and had a track editor.

One of my favourites.

>>4492571
pic related

the mechanics are almost like a fighting game in the sense of inputs and different viable styles. the flying mechanics are sick too and nothing is faster

realistic racers are fun on dates and being able to lean into turns on bikes in the arcade is fun but it gets old fast

>>4492723
Coast 2 Coast is not a straight port. Outrun 2 for Xbox and Outrun Online Arcade for PSN and XBLA are closer to that.

>>4492571
never been a fan of realistic racing
major fan of Ridge Racer and Wipeout

>>4492646
Always wished R4 was a better game. It's absolutely gorgeous, the music is stellar, but handling is absurdly weird by RR standards, and unlocking the bajillion cars is fucking awful. Every time I play it, it feels like they focused on other aspects than how it handled.

>>4492640
it hurts
at least RR2PSP is brilliant, even if it's got absolutely ludicrous shit and cars basically don't have any real turning power at all outside of drifts
one of the goofiest things was that if you had absolutely zero idea how to enter a given corner properly, you could just drift -- even if you're facing the wrong way, the spline based system will pull you along the track without crashing for the duration of it
the game rewards you properly for doing the corner properly, but it's hilariously forgiving

>>4492721
The physics are kinda loose like Sega Rally, but they're also quite well done and you can really feel the weight of the car, difference between front wheel/rear wheel vehicles etc. Then on top of that It's a huge open world to drive in and you can just drive for ages.

>>4492579
fpbp

>>4492579
At least post the retro ones that don't handle like ass.

gt2 aged well

Outrun
Hang-On
Road Rash
Wipeout
Rage Racer

>>4495267
>gt2 aged well
never played it mainly due to being put off by the time investment to get anywhere, whats the quickest way to get up into the fun stuff?

>>4495267
>aged

>>4495274
Go to Special Events. You get prize cars for every single individual race instead of entire cups. You progress way faster tha in GT1, plus there is shitton of more content than in GT1.

>>4495282
go sperg out somewhere else

>>4495285
Those prize cars trivialize the whole money aspect of the game unfortunately

>>4495287
Not really, you still gotta upgrade and upgrades are pricey.

>>4492621
>Burnout, the racer where the rubberbanding is for the player instead of the AI.
>Burnout 3
>late game race
>ahead by 3 seconds
>crash
>8 seconds behind and falling for the rest of the race, unless you boost the whole time and drive perfectly
I don't know, man. I think it varies.

I prefer realistic racers to shit like need for speed where you feel glued to the track. Cart racers are another genre really.

>>4492803
>Always wished R4 was a better game. It's absolutely gorgeous, the music is stellar, but handling is absurdly weird by RR standards, and unlocking the bajillion cars is fucking awful. Every time I play it, it feels like they focused on other aspects than how it handled.
I was disappointed by the number of courses.

>>4492803
disagree with r4 control, it controls the easiest of any rr game to much so imo thus rage is my fav. Agree the having to finish in certain positions to unlock cars is completely stupid though.

>>4492803
Me too, R4 can only be played with a spreadsheet to track down which cars you still need to unlock and which races you need to intentionally lose. Fucking Namco.

>>4495394
8 courses is fairly standard for that generation.

I love Gran Turismo and similar simcades but I also love Runabout and Crazy Taxi. Twisted Metal too.

>>4495286
>sperg out

>>4495297
I hate the entire genre bc its more about track memory than reaction time

arcade racers are more fun for me.

f ero for the gc could have been the best if it had hte random track circuit

sega fucked up

>>4495347
cart racers are fun but they really need to fucking make you aim your shells at least at the higher ccs

I get the need to pander to kids but getting pummeled 5 times by strongly tracking projectiles isnt fun

64 is great bc if you're good you can fuck someone up by running ahead of them trailing a banana

>>4492579
Wrong

>>4496273
I just found out there are map romhacks and I've been playing them like a madman

This thread makes me realize how much I used to play all sorts of racing games on the original Playstation: Wip3out, Ridge Racer Type 4, Gran Turismo 2, Crash Team Racing, Colin McRae Rally 2,...

>>4495274
This is why there is an arcade mode in the orange era of GT games. The arcade mode isn't just aimless quick races, there's an actual progression path.

>>4492794
No, both of those games are ported from the original Outrun 2. Outrun 2006 is a straight port of the arcade update Outrun 2 SP, which heavily altered the physics. Outrun Online Arcade backports the new tracks added for SP, even though it doesn't carry over the physics changes.

This game is pretty comfy.

>>4496323
oh shit so that's how you're supposed to play if you're hard
sim mode is for casuals

>>4492571
>What's your ideal racer?
Probably MSR and NFS PU are the best examples - they are not realistic, but they do excellent job with all the joy of driving an actual sport car properly translated to video game.

>>4495267
Six hours of playing later, got this bad boy

>>4495274
Just play arcade-all the best cars are there anyway.

>>4492803
I personally felt that the only problem with RRT4 is that it has very few courses, besides that is a perfect game, in my humble opinion.

>>4495267
Playing GT2, Colin 2.0 and TOCA WTC made me realise that physics in those games is better than in many modern racing games.
In fact physics in GT2 remind me of GT6 a lot, since GT4 PD introduced some bullshit input filter which would reduce steering angle based on speed AND grip levels resulting on on-the-rail driving.

Also, GT2 is one of the best GT there is simply because there are more 80's and 90's cars that are fun to drive.
Later GT series dropped them and replaced with modern day, 2k+ crapboxes which, are not so fun to drive or look at.

Pro tip, if you playing on epsxe, use Lillypad 0.12 or later.
You have two options there Deadzone and Skip Dead zone.

Normally if you remove deadzone in plugin control panel GT2 will still have deadzone by default but, if you use skip deadzone in plugin and set it to around 200 for turning left and right, you get a game which reacts instantly to your slightest input.

With that plugin you can even chose NecGon option in plugin CP and set sensitivity to very low (250 I think)
Just try setting various values then going to Rage Racer control settup screen and try slowly turning left and right, it will skip to the next screen when you reach the threshold, if it reaches the threshold too soon you know to reduce control sensitivity in plugin menu.
In any case, you can play Rage Racer with this plugin which earlier reacted to NecGon like it was a digital pad.

>>4492579
The physics in the Psygnosis PS1/Saturn/PC/N64 Wipeouts are a 1000 times better than anything that came after.

>>4492653
>not the original Outrun
WTF is this /v/?