/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[12-28] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9.4 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=30942

[12-28] La Tailor Girl 1.2 is out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1033276#p1033276

[12-26] this just in: the monsters are afraid of doomguy's weapons
https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/945729078878973952

[12-25] ProjectILE updates after 2 years
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4482352
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n15f7ghpbc7mmtu/ProjectILE.zip

[12-24] Intermission E2M9
https://youtu.be/96824yg2xKM

[12-24] Project: Kate by Jimmy released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98451-maps-project-kate/

[12-24] Bad Religion by NaturalTvventy released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829642

[12-24] Abyssal Speedmapping Session #32 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829593

[12-23] The Revenant Problem
https://youtu.be/MiEYCXPI-qY

[12-23] Gridlock released (community project made on 64 unit grid)
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829307

[12-23] Aliens: The Ultimate Doom and Castlevania: Simon's Destiny get Moddb 2017 Editor's Choice awards
http://www.moddb.com/games/hello-neighbor/features/editors-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

[12-23] Joy of Mapping 5 public beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829276

[12-22] Babel: more bugfixes and comments added
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4477880

[12-21] Bloody Rust 3 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98406-bloody-rust-3/

[12-21] TNT: Resistance final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90807-tnt-resistance/

[12-20] Doom modder Kate Fox deceased
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=58800

[12-18] 3DO Doom, how wall rendering works
https://youtu.be/Goq9ZIJFscE

[12-18] Quake Ghosts: A tourism mod for Quake set to the soundtrack of NiN's Ghosts I-IV
https://jp.itch.io/quake-ghosts

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>your OC is used for the OP image

Let's appreciate Cacos!

Alright, so I want to ask again because I'm curious.
Most people play with keyboard and mouse; WASD for moving, probably space for use, number keys for weapon slots, and then the mouse for shooting and either turning (Vanilla, Boom), or freelook (modern sourceports).

How many people stray from this?
Are you a keyboard only kind of guy? Are you the kind of weirdo who plays with mouse movement?
Do you play with a gamepad?
Do you play with a gamepad and mouse like me?
Is there perhaps someone who even plays with a trackball?

Lol brutal doom

>>4489120

I wanna pet that Caco.

>>4489132
I know a few people who play with trackballs, actually. Lewd.
Personally I just play with inverted freelook. I'm not sure why, just muscle memory by now. I also used to play with ESDF instead of WASD but I found WASD is more useful for debugging (can fit more shit on the right of the keyboard.)

>>4489143
Do not.

>>4489132
i've sometimes used a [ps2-like] gamepad + mouse, it's ok
i'd be curious about using joystick+ mouse, especially for blood or warframe

I've tried joystick + mouse. Didn't work very well with the large flight stick type one I used, a much smaller arcade type one could maybe work.

The weirdest controller I've ever used myself though was a wacom tablet in mouse mode. I played some quake live with it for shits and giggles. It actually worked surprisingly well.

>>4489150
>joystick+ mouse
I imagine that's vaguely similar to what I'm doing, giving you a true analog input for movement (in the ports that support this), with the speed and precision of a mouse.

>>4489159
Isn't this thing wireless? Wouldn't that entail a small degree of input lag and the chance for it to crap out mid game?

>>4489159
You could also just use half of a normal gamepad rather than buy that thing.

What i'd really want to try is play descent or some other 6dof game with one of these. I've tried one with 3d modelling software and they allow you to turn and move on any axis you want. It can be tilted, moved linearly, rotated, lifted and depressed.

Is anyone else having issues with cutscenes not playing in BloodGDX?
It's not a huge deal, since I can just watch them on YT, but it still irks me.
I got my copy of the game off of Myabandonware, if that matters.

>>4488113
Can you reassign the Cool Gun to slot 4? having three weapons on slot 3 is starting to get handful at times. Also, IMO the cool gun is not-so shotgunny in terms of function anyway (aside from the low RoF of the primary and the freezethrower secondary)

>>4489162
I haven't noticed any input lag, in fact I'm more swift and proficient than ever with that thing. Could just be that I'm less good with a keyboard and just naturally better at moving with an analog stick.

As for crapping out, the single AA battery it uses takes an extremely long time to drain, doing periods of +6hrs of Doom a day it lasts for months and months, and it'll tell you in advance if the battery is going low (which is still like a few weeks of daily gameplay).

It's been really reliable for me on that part.

>>4489167
>You could also just use half of a normal gamepad rather than buy that thing.
I could, but it'd also take up more space for traveling, more space for storage, and also I'd have like 50% of the controller I'm not using weighing my hand down and tilting it to one angle, not an obtrusive weight, but it makes itself known. It's very free to just have this one smaller unit that has (most) of what I need on it.

I also wouldn't strictly know what to even look for, I'm very satisfied with the feel and precision of the analog stick itself. It'd have to be something with an equally good analog stick and a far better d-pad (because the d-pad on this thing genuinely fucking sucks and is worthless)

>It can be tilted, moved linearly, rotated, lifted and depressed.
That sounds pretty cool actually.

>>4489183
That's a very weird thing. It plays cutscenes from Death Wish without problem.
The only lead I can see is that there are NO *.smk files that are listed in Blood.ini anywhere in the game folder.

>>4489206
>That sounds pretty cool actually
It is. Too expensive for me atm though. I'll think about putting Descent on my stick pc and bring it to the one I know who has one some day.

Is there anyone who still plays this?

Hey guys - i need your help.
Is there any way to set up an ACS script so that it executes when player looks in a certain direction?

Like - i want to execute a script whenever a player gets to one point and turns around in place.
How do i do that?

>>4489224
The easiest way is to make a constantly running map script (ENTER type) that checks for when the player is in the sector around that point. If he is, check if his Angle and Pitch is within value you decide yourself.

>>4489139
If I want a laugh I just use ketchup. The gore is the only mildly amusing thing about BD, all the other addons are shit.

>>4489132
>wasd for moving
>left/right arrows for turning
>up arrow for shooting
>/ and \ for weapon switching (although I usually just use the numbers, 3 and 4 are enough, it's doom after all)

I used to play with mouse movement back when I had one with a ball, it made it really east to shotgun them from up close and back away in one swift motion. The keyboard thing started when I wanted to play it on my laptop with no room for a mouse (fuck trackpads).

>>4489227
Cool, thanks!
Here - have a boner as a token of my appreciation.

>>4489248
>revenant with tits
this has gone too far

>>4489250

>>4489183
Okay, I figured this shit out, my dude.
Apparently, BloodGDX needs files themselves to be present in game folder; for reasons unknown that doesn't apply to DOSBox version. Black Magic, I think.
SO. You need to download stuff from this page:
http://files.deathmask.net/cutscenes/
Drop them into your game folder, and then edit Blood.ini to refer to these files.

Don't open this.

>>4489271

>>4489271

>>4489271

>>4489261
That worked. Thanks, anon.

I finally finished this map I started in march, boy lethargy. There's no difficulty settings, but it's not too tricky. Anyone can get by with some infighting I'm sure.
Tested with gzdoom and prboom, found visual glitches in prboom that I am admittedly too lazy to fix. I don't tolerate gameplay bugs however, tell me if you find any.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/tl418czj7gqpg60/togreenerpastures.wad

>>4488624

Is there a guide like this but for Blood? Sometimes I oneshot cultists with the double barrel shot, sometimes with just a regular shot, it's so inconsistent.

TLDR: help me kill MARANA and conserve ammo.

Complex Doom+DtWidD is the shit

>>4489337
>2 much brown
>not enough ammo
>midi puts me to sleep
do something about these, 2nd and 3rd point are most important imo

If you fuck a cacodemon's wife is he a cacocuckdemon, or a cuckodemon?

>>4489408
please don't do this

What the fuck am I playing

>>4489413
What is this, Mugen Doom?

>>4489423
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55919&sid=b6ee0615bbff0456d593f73ade768bfe

It's...something. Interesting concept and admittedly fun to play. It's just so fucking weird. This is the stuff I love about Zdoom though.

>>4489424
>That scene where waluigi slowly tears the sword out of his own head like he doesn't give a shit

This is terrifying.

>>4489424
Gotta love doom modding

>>4489445
Seriously though, would you a womancubus (male)?

>>4489445
This is Dwarf Fortress tier of bugfuckery. Amazing.

>>4489248
that just looks like something out of Mass Effect or some shit

>>4489445
what is that from

>>4489476
Kinsie's Juvenile Power Fantasy i think

>>4489383
There's already more ammo than I would want to use on ultraviolence so I'll have to make the difficulties for that. Do remember the infighting.
As for the midi I guess it's an odd choice? I really liked it when I heard it in Urania's map 3 and it's what made me start the map in the first place. No plans to change it.

>>4489469
really don't see it

I don't get comatose 2.

I ran around for a bit, found a blue key, and then found the exit. Hardest enemy I encountered was a mancubus.

There was plenary of health and ammo too. What?

>>4489527
Did you play the Doxylamine Moon version?

>>4489527
I actually managed to run into some hidden teleporter in that "museum" which filled the map with enemies. Too bad it then turned into a laggy mess.

>>4489535
no just the idgames 1.2 version

>>4489575
>>4489579
bit late for that dumbass demon.

>>4489575
>>4489579
hnnngg

>>4489215
there's no point in playing TF/TFC over TF2 unless you want to bunnyhop through the map at incredible hihg speed instead of doing actual teamplay

>>4489573
Try that one.

I mean, okay, I guess.

>>4489582
Everybody knows the demons are silly.

>>4489602
LET IT GO
LET IT GOOOO

>>4489642
LET IT HUUH
LET IT HUUUUH

>>4488406
From what I can tell, SArais actually does seem to be "sane", he's just desperate and really damn stupid at times.

I presume there's a lot of self-loathing as he tries in vain to escape furshit with his projects.

>>4489658
I don't think the persistence and nearly paranoid ideas he has are very healthy. There are varying degrees of sane. I'd guess fairly light narcissistic personality disorder in his case.

I've brain issues too, so there's no judgement in my armchair diagnosis.

I animated a cacodemon.

>>4489597
people don't seem to have trouble with not playing objectives or working as a team as is

I was thinking, if the Baron has the random chance to throw a volley of fire at you at his pain state, he might be a much tougher bastard to fight.

I was right.

>>4489691
Well done!

>>4489597
>breaching holes in enemy bases with detpacks
>still gotta take care of sentries especially with how limited dustbowl is
>not actual teamplay

>haven't played Hideous Destructor for quite awhile
>all I could remember is how much of buggy and annoying mess it was
>decide to give it another shot
>most of the issues have been fixed and now this mod feels nice and is actually fun to play

>>4489691
I like it. Reminds me of the sort of dumb stuff I would make in flash back in the day. Good times.

>that end room in project kate

MMMMM, I LIKE IT!

>entering the castle in Blood
>demonic noises
>mfw

This game is amazing.

>>4490000
such cruel monster placement.
what map is that?

>>4490007
a work in progress

>>4490000
>demons spraypainting please over a don't enter sign
Oh you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgklh0kDHiI

>>4490058
is that uncle phil?

>>4490084
No.

>>4489112
WHAT'S THE BEST MOD OF THE YEAR?

IF UPDATES COUNT THEN I'M GOING WITH PIC RELATED.

Man blood really gets better once the designer realizes that ammo starving you isn't difficulty and also isn't fun. Once you hit E1M3 shit really kicks into high gear.

look pretty good for a rando secret map

>>4490143
>Seams on the texture
Ick

so i herd u like terrywads but not the maps itself..
https://youtu.be/BMYBAHeZtfs

has anyone here contributed to freedoom?

>>4490194
you heard wrong

>>4490194
I don't think even a 12 year old who had just found out about swear words would find that funny.

>>4490203
Honestly, I'd rather just make a whole sprite/sound replacement myself. I hate the art direction of freedoom.

I might just maybe do that for heretic some day.

>>4490194
>Deleting your shit just because some sourpusses can't appreciate a honest cacophony

>>4490203
yes, bug fixes and general maintenance. not made any maps or graphics, i'm a fixer, not a creator.

>>4490252
This.
Fans of Earrape are also typically fans of Bethoven's Symphony.

Dunno if this is a good place to ask this but does anyone know how to remove the blurry scaling in DOSbox so I get my crisp pixels?

That's not the kind of boner i usually get in a public bathroom...

>>4490287
>chromatic aberration

>>4490287
heh
>if i shoot the mirror will it go away?

>>4490252
did doomguy take daisy to mars?

>>4490342
He should have. That would've saved her.

>>4490342
plot twist: daisy has been dead for years, the rabbit in the field at the end of Doom1 is not Doomguy's rabbit, but after fighting the forces of hell for so long he's hallucinating a bit and thinks it is -- all the worse for Hell of course given his ensuing rage explosion.

>>4490349
plot twist: you're a faggot and daisy is not a retcon, eat a dick.

>>4490360
I agree but that's no way to put it, anon.

>>4490363
FOR TILL COCK

>>4490287
>getting a boner in a male public bathroom
uh

>>4490360
she is, but that's not a bad thing, anon
i don't know why you think it is

>>4490360
>>4490371
i mean, solid snake being a clone is kind of a retcon, but retcon doesn't mean it should happen
if anything, daisy is actually an "expansion" on doom's story

>>4490360
The bunny in the end scene of E3 was just a wild rabbit. It wasn't your pet rabbit Daisy until the end scene of E4, which was created and released after Doom 2. Just because you like it doesn't mean it's not a retcon.

>>4490373
>doesn't mean it should happen
mean "it shouldn't happen", because it did, even if it may or may not change something

>>4490375
how do you know this?

Hissy is the better pet anyways.

>>4490360
daisy being doomguy's rabbit from when he was a child makes a lot more sense than a rabbit in a field on earth into which doomguy was randomly deposited is the same rabbit he owns as an adult male serving in the interplanetary armed forces. if he had a rabbit as an adult it would have been with him on deployment on mars, or back on the ranch with his parents in his hometown.

doom's story was an afterthought
it was many many things before they finally settled on what we have now

I legit don't care what they do with the story and whether or not it "connects" or not. it does seem like it but I really couldn't care less if they ruin the Baron of Hell's dark gritty backstory or the imps' family issues

I just want to shoot shit

>>4490378
I know everything.

>>4490378
from the intermission screen texts, and the release dates of the games.

>>4490375
>Doesn't overwrite anything nor change anything
It's not a retcon you fucking retard.

There was two rabbits. Daisy, who was yours, with their head impaled, and a random wild rabbit.

>>4490378
It's a simple release date check, anon.

Doom 2 was released on December 10, 1994.
Ultimate Doom, the expansion which included episode 4, was April 30, 1995.
Daisy is a retcon, retroactively specifying in the original continuity before Doom 2 that he wants vengeance for his pet rabbit. This is not a bad thing. There is no need to get upset.

>>4490245
>I hate the art direction of freedoom.
The whole thing gives me a 90's total conversion vibe, and not always in a good way.

Is On Cosmic Tides going to make us Term's bitches?

>>4490387
>There was two rabbits. Daisy, who was yours, with their head impaled, and a random wild rabbit.
an interesting theory. however, if it were true, she would have been mentioned in the manual or intermission texts in doom2 as a motivation for the players actions beyond releasing the ark from hell's containment field and saving humanity from extinction.
daisy only appeared as a joke at the end of episode 4, which was not part of the original storyline, but spliced into the original game as a sweetener to sell a boxed version in stores. (prior to that doom1 was only available as shareware.)
thus in conclusion, because daisy is never mentioned throughout the whole of doom2, we can assume she is a retcon at best, and a silly joke added to the intermission screen by mischievious id software employees in all likelihood.

>>4490389
I'm not the other guy. just curious.

>>4490389

>This is not a bad thing. There is no need to get upset.

B-but people are having FUN with Doom's canon!

I won't stand for that!

>>4490387
Daisy's existence changes Doomguy's motivation for killing the demons on Earth. In 1 and 2 (before the retcon), he was killing demons because he's the only person left who could. He didn't even care about his own life, as long as he could save humanity. E4 retconned his motivation in 2 to be petty revenge over a rabbit that probably wasn't killed by the demons anyway. Even accounting for space future tech, I don't think it's feasible to keep a pet alive on Earth while you're stationed on a Martian moonbase.

>>4490405
>tfw some random fox killed Daisy and the poor demons paid for it

>>4490398
On cosmic tides forever

Tell me why this map is shit. I wanted to get some outside feedback before continuing any further. It's playable up until the blue key, where I haven't added anything but an exit room afterward. Apologies for not changing the background music.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ksds9yx4aceuy19/MY_FIRST_WAD_12-29-17.wad

>>4490398

I fully aim to replicate the appeal of the Daikatana experience.

>>4489271

What is your favorite DUMP 3 weapon?

In my case, I think the Holy Water Pistol is a piece of shit that makes me want to punch people. Then I remember I can't punch people with that weapons pack.

>>4490387
>>4490401
>>4490405
>>4490407
>Probably wasn't killed by the demons
>literally shows 2 rabbits in the cutscene
It's YOUR rabbit. Why would the demons kill your rabbit and ignore the other one entirely? Why put a random rabbit head on a pike? It's yours.
It's the demons taunting you.
"Oh, you want to go home? Too bad. Here's a dead rabbit and us slaughtering your species. That's what you pay."

leaving your bunny in earth, while you're in mars sounds dumb, but wasn't doomguy in phobos, because he beat up his own boss, who was then, sent to hawaii?

>>4490415
well anon a lot of work is needed, I will spare you the graphical things as its clearly full of placeholders and unfinished areas
played on HMP and overall many rooms feel very big and empty, this makes enemies like barons, cacos and mancubi laughable, didnt bother shooting them because ammo was quite short at beginning. adding secrets as misaligned walls is fine, but a bit too obvious, also first secret is improperly marked, and you get 3 of them instead of 1

>>4490443
The secret thing was more of an oversight/laziness on my part.
Should I add more enemies to make them seem more threatening in the larger areas?

>people having a serious discussion over the cronological existence of a fictional character's pet rabbit from a 24 year old game who's creator said that he didn't give a shit about the game's story
Really makes you think

>>4490486
It's called being bored.

>>4490486
Shush.

So, I just beat the gargoyle boss on BloodGDX stucking it on a wall (actually a corner between the wall and the ceiling) and mauling him down with my guns. Is this a "viable" strategy to beat the boss or GDX shat the bed? I noticed a lot of enemies get stuck on walls and wonder if this a original feature or a port's problem.

>>4490461
I would say shrink/section/thin out the areas so monsters become a threat
that corridor with two barons would be a lot more threatening if there were some wide pillars in the middle so barons got some cover and player may get shafted if they run carelessly, being there I had no incentive to shoot them with little to no ammo so I decided to run past barons, same with all meaty enemies really

>>4490523
So not necessarily make the rooms/sectors smaller, but reduce the amount of dance floor?

>>4490486

>>4490486

>>4489132
i play keyboard only when on a laptop

>>4490486

any of you have the realaim mutator?

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54391

>>4490575

well, or any mutator of those

>>4490575
>>4490578

I've found them, nevermind

>>4490529
yeah more or less, you can have a tight corridor that feels large just by restricting player movement, adding these pillars and maybe some balconies on sides for enemies to sit on may be one of solutions, experiment with placement

>>4490584
happy playing

>>4490594
I've been experimenting with adding random hitscanners and Imps around just to make rooms feel less empty. Thanks for the feedback, anon. I'll work on it some more tomorrow morning.

>>4490575
>>4490578
>>4490584
why is there a site for maps but not for mods?

>>4490602
consider adding clusters of zombiemen once player gets chaingun/shotty because its satisfying to mow them down and they fill the space nicely, also having few of them between stronger monsters serves as giving player "cover" before strong attack of said monsters

What are some WADs where you get a revolver

Stop putting Brutal Doom in your servers.

>>4490623
Not to meme it up or shitpost, serious question, but what is Carmack's opinion on Drutal Boom? If he's never expressed his opinion on it, what'd you think he'd say about it?

>>4490628
He'd probably love it, given that he likes shit like vertical aim and jumping.

>>4490623
Stop having fun playing something you actually enjoy because I don't like it.

>>4490616
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/rslquest

>>4490623
input better netcode in doom because all this skulltag jerryrigging is bullshit

>playing Brutal Doom

>>4490486
for fucks sakes stop using the non masculine :thinking: emoji

>>4490665

>>4490628
I wonder what he thinks of its code

>>4490674
>NIGHTMARE!

um

>>4490697
flyin puppers

>>4490697
doggo does a alien abduction

>>4490697
I feel so bad killing the dogs. the cartoony style makes them look like angry overfed puppies trying to lightly gnaw at you instead of fierce attack hounds determined to turn you into minced meat.

Say something nice about SArais

Do not respond or engage. Ever.

>2018
>still no Scythe X - Episode 3

Do not pet the cacodemon.

>>4490741
Getting really tired of these type of posts. They don't help anything.

>>4490754
but baitfish posts, (you), pretending not to link the post and other forms of simulated downvotes are absolutely okay?

>>4490437
I like the Nanotool.

Because I made it.

>>4490757
Complaining about the moderation surely isn't.

>>4490754
Coincidentally they're both posted by the same person 99.9999% of the time. The more you know.

>>4490757
I didn't say that. I'm just saying the "don't respond" "don't engage" "report and ignore" and the [how to identify a attention seeker] image or whatever posts just add nothing to the thread, and are sometimes posted preemptively, just drawing attention to the problem instead of following their own advice.

>>4490784
Because none of you fucking listen

>>4490786
Maybe because none of us fucking care about a literal who, and the only one so clinically devastated about their presence here, is you?
You're not our mother.

>>4490803
I'm not the one who egged on a mentally ill shitsack until he began spewing diarrhea all over the thread for hours on end.

>>4490805
Then stop acting like it. He has the right to be here. He also has the right to defend himself and retaliate. When people are backed into a corner, they tend to lash out. Consider not antagonizing them. And there most certainly is somebody in the thread doing it; bringing their name up at any conceivable opportunity.

At this point it's starting to look like a set-up.

>>4490815
well golly gee

maybe they should have known better and not start shit in the first place

would certainly have helped avoid having to 'defend himself and retaliate'

>>4490749
>And Still no BTSX Ep 3

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS!

>>4490827
explain yourself

i knew that this mapset was going to be sad but i wasnt expecting a gut punch like this

>>4490836
What if the twist is that we're getting Back to Scythe X Ep3

>>4490841
>Dies on Dec 19th, immidiately after HIS birthday.
>HE claimed "laser guided karma"
>HIS cat died
>BOTH were situations of individuals close to the person in question dying.

Guys?

>>4490841
;_;

>>4489132
I used to play a special snowflake way with direction keys for moving, z and x for strafing, and ctrl for shooting because I had started on a laptop. Got used to standard wasd now though.

>>4490841
Kate was an inside job.

>>4490841
Calling it now, he killed her.

I followed the guide and set up gzdoom, but when I try to move he doesn't. Moving the mouse forward makes him move forward, not look up.

>gameplay mod
>can no longer snipe with chaingun
>rocket launcher is single shot
>Super shotgun is balanced with regular shotgun
>BFG uses damage method other than tracers

>>4490841
spoiler that shit

>>4490841
damn...

>>4490841
literally who

>>4490864
disgusting tranny

>>4490864
Veteran Doom modder who passed away just a few days before Christmas, that wad was made as a tribute to her.

>>4490867
Disgusting tranny that could code better than me.

>>4490870

>>4490870
>Disgusting tranny that could code better than he-who-must-not-be-named

>>4490874
>Implying that's an accomplishment for anybody other than That-Disgusting-Monsterfat-Dude-That-Literally-Cannot-Code

>>4490857
Which mod?

SEETHING

>>4490895
DAZED
REELING

>>4490857
you don't like many gameplay mods, do you

>>4490857
Don't play vanilla rebalancers

Literally none of them know how to handle shit, especially if they find something wrong with the SSG

My only problem with JPCP guy was the lack of Hitscan that wasn't pistol-tier.

>>4490907
perhaps get good

>>4490915
I still quite liked it, anon. I just love me some hitscan.

>>4490915
JPCP guy is literally the strongest person in the mod so there's no need to get good

>>4490713
They're Nazi dogs trained to kill allied schweinhunds. Does that make it better?

>>4490950
speaking of graf, someone posted a pic of a forum post by rachael of graf going awol. could i get a link to that thread? i cant find it, unless its been deleted

>Memento Mori
>Twilight Lab
>mostly even lighting
>map feels overlong too

>>4490983
It was leaked from a staff only portion of the forum.
Don't bother looking for it

>>4490983
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4476080/#4481570

>>4490987
>https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4476080/#4481570
>>4490994

thanks, anons

http://www.moddb.com/groups/2017-mod-of-the-year-awards/features/players-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

>>4491003
old news

>>4491004
>old

This literally happened 2 days ago

>>4491006
yes, and we already had all of our reactions and discussion then

it's old news

>>4491007
oh

>>4491007
Did you know that some people don't lurk these threads every single day?

>>4491009
normies

I know we love to shit all over Brutal Doom, but you have to admit that it DOES have some cool features. The kick, for example, is absolutely fantastic and I wish I could get it working on its own.

>>4489112
anyone else tried pic related?

>>4491035
I don't think brutal doom isn't that bad honestly
I don't think its the "best mod that has and ever will exist" like how BD's fans think it is, but I don't think its bad either
I mostly just think sgt_mk_4 is an asshole and I think the map enhancement script is dumb

>>4491035
contrary to what mark and his braindead legion think, we don't all hate brutal doom.

it's a legit really fun mod to play, it's just not immune to criticism and can be shat on just as actively as i shit on any other gameplay mod i like. it's simply that the criticisms have been said time and time again, and now it's suffering from tremendous feature creep, so it's become terribly old hat.

and now unfortunately, mark has reached a place where he's become such a thin-skinned bitch in contrary to his image of a super-alpha male that any negative reception is jelly or butthurt.

>>4490628
>>4490629
>>4490651
>>4490674
Carmack disliked Duke Nukem 3D back in the day because in his opinion, "it was held together with chewed gum".
I don't think that's an incorrect assertion, because it's janky as shit as an engine (I mean fucking *look* at it), but the actual gameplay and presentation is so fucking good in my opinion that it more than makes up for it, it's easily one of the best FPS of the 90's despite it's flaws and rough edges.

Carmack was always more of an engine guy than an actual game designer or player, he made the foundation and brick and mortar of Keen, Wolfenstein, Doom and Quake, and the other guys made it into a game.

>>4490674
He'd probably be pretty appalled by it, it's textbook spaghetti. On the other hand, Decorate isn't exactly magical either.

>>4491035
A few years ago it would've been alright for what it was, but the scope creep is so ridiculous that you're better off with its derivative projects or the many original ones that have popped up ever since.

>>4491053
He did much later on admit it was a good game. He was really abrasive when younger, but seems to have really grown as a person probably around the time he got a kid.

Unlike romero, who's behavior towards his first wife and child is was pretty appalling. Seems to have his shit together with his current lady though.

>>4490841
( ._.)

>>4491058
Ah, so he gave it a chance then?

>Unlike romero, who's behavior towards his first wife and child is was pretty appalling
Wasn't perhaps ideal, but not as bad as his own experiences growing up.

>>4491043
100% agree, BD is good fun but sgt_mk_4 is a bit of a prick and the feature creep with BD on the last couple of versions has been pretty ridiculous. The map enhancement script is a terrible idea that ruins a lot of the standard maps (Plutonia being the exception, it actually does good there in my opinion).

>>4491054
he didn't make Decorate

>>4491065
I never said he did, but it's a clumsy language.

>>4489112
can't we just switch to /vg/

>>4491078
Fuck off.

>>4491078
Fuck on.

>>4491078
Kill yourself.

>>4490841
That whole wad is just infested with melancholy despite it's cheeriness, though for understandable reasons.

https://discord.gg/2ux5aNC
Let's start a Discord, rules are simple:

No CP, no spam, nothing which will violate the laws.

>>4491090
Wasn't there already one?

>>4490841
The difficulty selection already hit me. Fuck.

>>4490841
Which set is this? I feel this is something I should play.

>>4491096
Project Kate
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98451-maps-project-kate/

>>4491090
For what reason?

>>4491104
Because that poster is not posting in good faith.

>>4491090
>the festering grounds and breeding pits for the worst shit imaginable
it's like you want to help the demons

>>4491082
>>4491085
>>4491087
why not though

>>4491117
Because in /vr/ we actually do have moderation. What would we gain from moving to /vg/? More shitty memes? More retards? More shitposts?

>>4491110
I use it to talk to my friends.

>>4491117
/vg/ is Stage 4 cancer.

>>4491117
If you're being serious, because these threads don't get nearly enough posts fast enough to survive in /vg/, our threads would get bumped off

>>4491118
an actual representation of what this doom thread is and it's forefathers are? a doom general?

>>4491121
nah man, you're just pessimistic, look at payday general or killing floor general

>>4491120
changing the board doesn't change the mood and relationships of the people, we can still be nice buddies and pet the cacos

>>4491120
your discord friends and discord servers, especially 4chan related discord servers, are very different things

one of these groups are your individual friends
the other of these groups is where ego is born and attracts very bad people

I take it Nambona finally had enough of his faggotry rightfully getting deleted on sight?

>>4491078
>>4491117

>>4491123
Oh, so the excuse is autistic categorisation?

Is there any sourceport for Rise Of The Triad?
I kind of want to run it on Windows 10 with compatibility, maybe higher resolution, etc.

>>4491123
Fucking worthless tradeoff.

Stop.

>>4489113
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98565-random-deaths-decoration-162-available/

Random Deaths and Decoration 1.62 released

>>4491127
>changing the board doesn't change the mood and relationships of the people
Yes it fucking does.
Either we attract more people to keep the threads afloat on /vg/, and these are the worst fucking people short of /v/ itself, or we perish.

/vg/ is worth NOTHING to /doom/.

Yeah I'm getting the vibe that this guy isn't being sincere and is just being a shitter.

>>4491138
That was obvious from the start. This used to be a common bait tactic in the early days of the thread.

>>4489215
I sti'l play tfc almost daily for 20mins a day because my """gaming pc""" is a thinkpad x41. Same thing for arma cwa and doom.

>>4491139
It's been so long that I assumed this guy was actually wondering.
Serves me right for giving the benefit of the doubt

>>4491078
>>4491117
>>4491123
>b-bu-bu muh /vg/

Fuck outta here

>>4491131
moot's been replaced by chinkmoot

i bet /v/ likes fireblu and startan

>>4491151
>Not liking fireblu

I forget the map, but I remember one that used fireblu to make a cheese wedge.

>>4491090
>IRC but a completely closed proprietory protocol
No thanks

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POOPY

linguica EXPOSED LILITH.PK3
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DOOMWORLD REVIEWERS FAGGOTS PEDOPHILES GIVE THEIR ASS TO BILL GATES ALSO PEDOPHILE AND MICROSOFT TO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION OF SHITTY WINDOWS PIRACY, I CURSE MICROSOFT,BILL GATES,WINDOWS VISTA,7,8,9,10,11,12 AND ALL TO DEATH IN NAME OF FATHER SON HOLYSPIRIT, I CONDEMN MICROSOFT,BILL GATES,WINDOWS VISTA,7,8,9,10,11,12 AND ALL TO LAKE OF FIRE AND SULFUR IN NAME OF FATHER SON HOLYSPIRIT SWALLOW MY CUM, ADMIN RETARDED

HELP ME

>>4489337
Nice and varied for beign such a long level. I agree that the brownness is too much, it would be better to add some colors and maybe mix some green/grey at least instead of having separate section with different colors.
Lighting is lacking. what's the music? I'm sure I heard it somewhere.

HELP ME IM GETTING POOED BY LINGUICA

HELP ME GUYS LINGUICA TRAPPED ME IN BLOODSHEDDERS DUNGEON AT 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE I AM POOED BY LINGUICA RAPED BY BLODCHEDDAH EVERY DAY HELP ME GUYS I AM INNOCENT

HELP ME GUYS IVE BEEN HACKED

We're doing this again?

GUYS HELP ME IVE BEEN HACKED BY LINGUICA AND HIS ASS BUDDY BLOODSHEDDER AND SCUBA STEVE

help me I'VE BEEN HACKED BY LINGUICA HE POOPED MY MUMMY

Why is Alien Vendetta so fucking awesome?

sooo, what is going on here

HELP ME MY FELLOW DOOMERS I AM HACKED BY LINGUICA AND HIS ASS BUDDY SCUBA

>troll /vg/ move and troll discord posts
>just an hour later, this shit AGAIN

Hmm

>>4491190
Terry escaped from the plantation again

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I GOT POOED BY LINGUICA
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Might as well post a few things

help me I WAS HACKED THIS IS NOT ME LING DID IT

I AM HACKED BY LINGUICA AND HIS EVIL GOONS HE IS ADMIN OF SOMETHINGAWFUL.COM

help me im swinging in bloodshedders dungeon 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE

850 DRIFTWOOD AVE save me please guys fellow doomers help me

I GOT POOED BY LINGUICA HELP ME
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Why does Project Kate disable freelook?

i got TURDED by BLOODSHEDDER 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE RAPIST

>>4490674

>>4491221
I was wondering the same thing, and I can't figure out how to get up to the raised sections of map three

my ass is being violated to the fullest extent

>>4491221
if you chop your dick off you can no longer aim freely

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE BLOODSHEDDER EXPOSED

>>4491227
Can you and the spammer go back to your home websites

BLOODSHEDDER 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE RAPIST EXPOSED FUCKS ME HARD WITH LINGUICA

I GOT POOED BY BLOODSHEDDER 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE RAPE DUNGEON

>>4491229
but anon, /vr/ IS their home website.

help me I BEG OF YOU 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE RAPE DUNGEON EXPOSED ILLUMINATI NWO REPTILIANS aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JESUS NO

GZDOOM IS FUCKING CANCELLED AAAAA HELP ME I GET RAPED EVERY DAY 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE

You know, it would be actually pretty funny of Grahl snapped and started to spam /vr/ with shitposting. Nevermind, though. Some of these pics are pretty old and cozy, makes me remember old 4chan

My mother passed away last night

>>4491225
Archvile jump.

I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER THE ONLY SALTY MEMBER IS MY PEENY LINGUICA SALTS IT BEFORE HE RAPES ME

>>4491229
don't get so offended, it was only a joke

>>4491240
I'm a fucking fool. The first thing I did was shoot them to pieces with the rocket launcher

LINGUICA I CURSE YOU 100000000 YEARS GZDOOM IS FUCKING CANCELLED YOU FUCKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

this is what ling did to me i need ur help guys 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE BLOODSHEDDER RAPE LAIR EXPOSED 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE HELP ME GUYS

my german penis cannot tolerate all this... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WONT LET U GET AWAY WITH THIS LINGUICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>4491245
mandatory av jumps are bad because the game teaches you to kill them off as quickly as possible

JOIN GERMAN GAY GAMERS CLUB GZDOOM OH WAIT I WILL FUCKING CANCEL IT FUCKING LINGDRONES FUCKING BLOODCHADDER http://linguicapoopyluv.byethost6.com/

this is what ling does to me 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE BLOODSHEDDER WILLIAM KOCH RAPE DUNGEON exposed RAPE lair I CURSE YOU BLOODSHEDDER YOUR FAMILY 100000000000000000000000000000000 MILLENNIA

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HELP ME GUYS I AM SERIOUS 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE I AM HELD HOSTAGE BY BLOODSHEDDER HIS NEW BOYFRIEND LINGUICA RAPES ME BECAUSE I DARE DISAGREE WITH HIM AND THE STUPID FUCKING CACOWARDS STARRING SCUBA STEVE AND THE WINNER IS SCUBA STEVE HELP ME FUCK YOU SCUBA STEVE CREATOR OF ACTION DOOM AND ACTION DOOM 2 CREATED BY SCUBA STEVE

i've hit the daily report quota again, can someone take over from 4491253 please

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GERMAN GAY GAMERS WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE ON YOU DOOMERS LINGUICA WILL NOT BE SPARED MY WRATH HOW DARE I DISAGREE WITH HIM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HELP ME GUYS IVE BEEN HACKED THIS IS NOT THE REAL GRAF ZAHL IT IS LINGUICA HE RAPES ME IN BLOODSHEDDER DUNGEON 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE COLUMBUS INDIANA USA

help me why dont you help me 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE my german poopy cock shall fire a volley of cum towards Linguicas house in california hope he dies by the wildfires

>>4491256
Do jannies not open the whole thread when they remove posts?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA VR YOU RUINED MY LIFE DOOMWORLD YOU KILLED ME INSIDE I SHALL HAVE MY REVENGE.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SUPER SAIYAN GOD 19092304930548294586734563965 i wont let you GET AWAY WITH THIS 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE

>>4491260
judging from what posts were and weren't remove in the past few threads, the new one apparently doesn't

I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I AM NOT A SALTY MEMBER I SHALL HAVE MY REVENGE ON YOU LINGUICA MY POOPY COCK DEMANDS IT AND ALL OF DEUTCHES REICH HEIL HITLER

>>4491260
i haven't the faintest idea what they do, all i know is, i can't submit any more reports
i wrote a message on the feedback form asking for assistance, i can't think of anything else to do for now

get rid of the /vg/ move and discord bait while you're at it.

>>4491267
well it seems to have worked, or maybe was just a coincidence but either way the desired result was achieved

>>4491150
That changes nothing.

This is nice.

>>4491240
>>4491245
Oh, I'm supposed to use them to bump me up to the switches then? And then what do I do?
Do I hope to jump up to the teleport pads they're standing on? Last time they put me there I got stuck.

>>4491273
I didn't see that texture when I was playing.

>>4491273
After you get up there and hit the switches, you can lower the platforms where the archies spawn, that'll take you where you need to go.

>>4491175
Music is from Urania map 3. I agree about the lighting and color, but that feedback will be for the next map in another 6 months.

>>4491275
not just requiring archvile jumps for secrets, but requiring archvile jumps for progression? terrible design choice in my opinion, unforgivable

>>4491280
For a vanilla/boom map, I'd agree, but this is a slightly unconventional ZDoom mapset.

>>4491280
I mean you're given an invuln sphere before the monsters appear. But I still don't care much for it.

the /vr/ thread is too slow. it's either /vg/, discord, or slow, but imminent death for us. pick one!

>>4491303
I guess we've been on "imminent death" for several years then.

>>4491303
Slow is good when content is good. Which it generally is. The holidays have just been shitposting season it seems.

>>4491303
cunt off, shitmeister

>>4491305
circlejerking belongs to /vg/ though

>>4491316
Sure. Circlejerking aren't one of the /doom/ issues I think.

>>4491316
Go spend time with your family, you sad person.

>>4491078
>>4491303
>>4491316
Why don't you just filter these threads if they trigger you so much?

>>4491319
not him but this board is my family

>>4491318
but this entire thread is just circlejerking over how good vanilla doom and vanilla mapsets are, which means this is a /vg/-tier thread. no reason not to move to /vg/

>>4491325
no it isn't

>>4491325
You're not fooling anyone.

>>4491325
nothing you say will change anything.

>>4491324
I love you, son.

This is a demo of the Quoth "joke" slaughter episode Quenching Urges of Constant Killing. It contains a start map and two stupidly hard slaughtermaps.
These maps are totally fair and balanced™. The monster count is extreme and the action relentless.

These maps are designed to be played shotgun start so don't be surprised when you start naked on map change. The "intended" way of playing these maps is to finish them as fast as possible with all kills in a single life. Coop is supported up to 4 players but is untested and may cause a loss of brain cells. The only supported difficulties are Hard and Nightmare.

The pack comes with a custom soundtrack. It is recommended you turn the music volume all the way up and decrease the general volume (trust me). You need the latest version of Quoth 2.2 to run this shizzle. See the readme in the archive on how to install and run it.

>>4491325
The threads have been here for several years; it's time to get the fuck over it.

>>4491332
This. 5 year anniversary next year in fact.

>>4491331
Of course I forgot the download link. Grab it here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tUPUtMyvCdfBvUfS8z5o8IaJunyBJIA9

>>4491331
this looks like a zaneion map

>>4491332
i guess for some people any thread that isn't a raging profanity-laden argument, or a deeply focussed hatred of the topic, in other words any thread whose subject is liked or appreciated, that has any positivity at all in it, is a "circlejerk"

>>4491332
>>4491328
you're just being delusional if you think that /doomgen/ wouldn't benefit from extra traffic.

Has anyone ever made a weapon or enemy in Doom with a homing attack that can exactly mimic something's movements when following them?

As in, perfect homing, not something you could trick into hitting a wall, maybe a door if you time it right.

>>4491338
Extra traffic automatically equates to extra shitposting, so no thanks.

>>4491325
>>4491338
Wow what a retard

>>4491340
You'd need A* pathfinding for that. It's possible. Will be hard to make it move in a visually nice way though.

>>4491338
If people have interest in classic Doom they know where to look. Either way, the threads are at a comfortable level of activity as it is.

>>4489337
The entire thing looks like turd brown, the midi is fucking shit and you don't even give me enough ammo to kill all the things... Another anon pointed these out already but better make sure you don't forget.

>>4491375
>The entire thing looks like turd brown
So what? So does Quake and everyone loves that.

>>4489337
Looks like garbage vanilla wad #5712648124891275891274

>>4491375
>>4491380
You really need to do something better with your time, like finding a job.

>>4491382
I didn't realize we weren't allowed to criticize WADs we didn't like (unless they're not serious WADs).

>>4491392
You're only allowed to circlejer- I mean, "be positive" about vanilla WADs these parts...

>>4491392
criticism is fine, however:

>The entire thing looks like turd brown
this is almost a criticism, but then you turned it into an insult by comparing it with a turd.
>the midi is fucking shit
this is unquestionably another insult
>and you don't even give me enough ammo to kill all the things
this is the nearest thing to a criticism, although you might just be a bad player.
>>4491380
>Looks like garbage vanilla wad #5712648124891275891274
this isn't even worthy of a response

in conclusion, there is very little other than flames and insults in the two posts in question, making them next to worthless, and your opinion justifiably ignored.

Hasn't every single Doom thread made on /vg/ died because /vg/ is too damn fast? Why do people keep asking about this.

>>4491331
>>4491335
What the fuck did I just play?

>>4491402
so through sarcasm you admit your belief that any kind of positive opinion at all means it's a circlejerk, and we must be hating everything 24/7. no thanks, i'm afraid the vast majority disagrees with you. i suggest you find another board more to your liking.

>>4491402
Hi /v/

>>4491303
>too slow
What, you need posts every second?

>>4489143

Watch you fingers!

>>4491415
Yes.

Why does it take zero effort to piss you guys off?

>>4491435
Why don't you have anything better to do during the holidays?

>>4491376
Not the same anon, but at least quake had some appeal to it's brown design.

>>4489337
Playing through it now, tend to be indifferent on things and won't intentionally dig for flaws because I don't think that's how most people play, at least not me.

Only thing I'm running with it is FragTrak, because I like counting up the kills across all the maps I play vanilla style.

>>4491405
aren't insults allowed to be criticism? Very crude, but it's still a criticism.

>>4491407
literally look at payday or killing floor general, they're never dead and barely anyone replies a day.

This map was different, it does things I wouldn't perhaps ever think about, not necessarily in a good way, but not in a bad way either.

DO THE MARIO

>>4491412
you're just putting words into his mouth with 'any kind'.
Have some sense of quality, anon.

>>4491405
>although you might just be a bad player.
huh? you don't like this wad? well you're just a shit doom player

>>4491405
DO NOT make FUN of my SHIT BROWN WADs!!! they're good BECAUSE they are vanilla and look like they're straight out of 1994!

>>4491452
I died more times there than I'm comfortable admitting.
It was a good set of maps though, and made with the heart, it's beautiful for that.

>>4491457
sorry i mean any kind of positive opinion about wads you don't like, such as any wad that isn't terry shit

>>4491376
Lack of color variation in textures hurts Doom a lot more than it does Quake because the latter doesn't have flat lighting

>>4491461
>asked for sense of quality
>mentions terry shit
you, along with your argument, are completely invalidated