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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4476080

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

BUILD ENGINE LAUNCHERS
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.4483491

=== NEWS ===

[12-25] ProjectILE updates after 2 years
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4482352
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n15f7ghpbc7mmtu/ProjectILE.zip

[12-24] Intermission E2M9
https://youtu.be/96824yg2xKM

[12-24] Project: Kate by Jimmy released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98451-maps-project-kate/

[12-24] Bad Religion by NaturalTvventy released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829642

[12-24] Abyssal Speedmapping Session #32 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829593

[12-23] The Revenant Problem
https://youtu.be/MiEYCXPI-qY

[12-23] Gridlock released (community project made on 64 unit grid)
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829307

[12-23] Aliens: The Ultimate Doom and Castlevania: Simon's Destiny get Moddb 2017 Editor's Choice awards
http://www.moddb.com/games/hello-neighbor/features/editors-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

[12-23] Joy of Mapping 5 public beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1829276

[12-22] Babel: more bugfixes and comments added
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4477880

[12-22] Hunter's Moon: Visor's Gravity Hammer and Life Binder Item a replacement for Kamikaze
https://youtu.be/ypLqMsdLZfE
https://youtu.be/0F1yYL9-ALg

[12-21] Bloody Rust 3 announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98406-bloody-rust-3/

[12-21] TNT: Resistance final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90807-tnt-resistance/

[12-20] Doom modder Kate Fox deceased
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=58800

[12-18] 3DO Doom, how wall rendering works
https://youtu.be/Goq9ZIJFscE

[12-18] Quake Ghosts: A tourism mod for Quake set to the soundtrack of NiN's Ghosts I-IV
https://jp.itch.io/quake-ghosts

[12-17] GZDoom exploit to overwrite all your files published
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58775

[12-12] La Tailor Girl v1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1031061#p1031061

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>> No.4483518
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4483518

When is the golden boner? I legitimately forgot.

>> No.4483546

>>4483518
Golden boner goes directly into Graf

>> No.4483552
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X marks the spot

>> No.4483560

>>4483434
hi, Graf

>> No.4483569

>>4483552
I'd put a mark in her spot, if you know what I mean.

The karasawa gun alternate fire when wearing the senpailate outfit causes stutter/lag when most of the shot connects against large-sized enemies, dunno why.

>> No.4483580

>>4483552
If you do heavy perspective on the gun otherwise, then you should continue the perspective with the muzzle/barrel. Now it looks like the tip of the gun is pointing upwards.

>> No.4483586

>>4483569
Probably due of the multiple a_blast calculations vs giganto mass
>>4483580
A bit late at this point, I really dont want to be arsed to go through all the frames to fix it and then have the fun crop so it wont jitter dance again

>> No.4483591

Alright maybe I'm just stupid but I'm trying to change some wall textures in ecWolf with slade but I cannot find the texture files or any useful documentation on it.

Anyone got any pointers?

>> No.4483604

>>4483518
/vr was created on march 18th, so the one time there was a golden boner, that's when it was.

>> No.4483616

>>4483546
That must be why his butt hurts.

>> No.4483624

re-posting from previous thread;

I want to play the Duke Nukem 3D expansions via eDuke32.
I own the Megaton edition.
If I install the Megaton edition, will it create a .GRP file that I can copy to my eDuke folder, allowing me to then uninstall Megaton?

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>>4483552
Have you tweaked the cell pickups? They're too narrow/small and can't be reached in certain circumstances like in this spot in MAP04 of Requiem.

>> No.4483647
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How were the Cacowards this year?

>> No.4483650

>>4483647
controversial

>> No.4483652
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>>4483647
Very salty.

>> No.4483654

>>4483650
>>4483652

ignoring all the GZ stuff
though I hope he comes back as i like the port and don't follow community discussions at all

>> No.4483656

>>4483654
Even if he doesn't we'll be fine. There are several other people who've promised to jump in. There's also a planned merger with the zandronum team.

>> No.4483658 [DELETED] 

Why are there so many Trannies in the Doom community

>> No.4483660

Were any of the Cacowards single maps?
I don't feel up for a big slog.

>> No.4483661

>>4483658
this question has been answered before, come on now
also, who cares?

>> No.4483663

>>4483661
just wondering, i don't know the answer

>> No.4483664
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Okay, here's a thing: think of the best/most popular/noticeable/beloved modders/mappers or content creators in the Doom commmunity
Try to make a list of all of those authors you can think of or at least a reasonable number of them, that you think is enough
Now
Out of all of those people: what would you consider to be their best work?
What's this modder's best mod or mapper's best map and so on?
Do you think you could be able to make a list of these guys, just to put their best work next to their name, even if it's just your personal favorite?
Just for curiousity

>> No.4483669 [DELETED] 

I didn't realise Essel was transgender now

Huh

>> No.4483671

those posts definitely aren't in bad faith

>> No.4483682 [DELETED] 
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>>4483652
He seems like a salty-ass /pol/nigger who thinks that humanity hasn't produced decent art since the early 1800s.

>> No.4483691

>>4483682
It is not the tool developers job to comment on the art created with the tool. No developer of open-source software has the right to tell others what to do (or not do) with their code; that's what the licence is for.

>> No.4483696

>>4483682
I don't consider that painting to really be art, and would say Lilith is miles better, but I definitely wouldn't start any shitstorms over someone liking that random mess of paint.

>> No.4483712

>>4483696
It is art. There's no lower bar of artistic quality you need to get over for something to be art.

It's just bad art. "art" itself doesn't imply anything about quality.

>> No.4483715

>>4483712
Art by definition requires creative skill AND imagination.

That painting does not require such things to create, you could feasibly paint the feet of a bunch of very small and dumb animals and have them walk all over a canvas to make something relatively similar.

You could not do that with Lilith.

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>tfw first boss battle in Doom 2

Why didn't anyone told me this game was so much fun

>> No.4483718

>>4483715
"creating something like Lilith takes no effort or imagination, it's just random pixels thrown around"

That's literally your level of argumentation, you dumb shit.

>> No.4483719

>>4483717
Dead Simple?

>> No.4483720

>>4483717
It's not, though. The level design is abysmal and boring hence why it's hated a lot here.

>> No.4483721

>>4483718
Except I didn't, I explicitly said you couldn't do that and get Lilith.

>> No.4483723

>>4483715
Art is personality. You cannot create art detached from personality -- the Jackson Pollack may not have taken much in implementation, but the _idea_ was still the artist's.

That said, lilith is one of those things that takes extreme complexity and thought to look simple and devoid of human input. It's definitely worth a Cacoward even if only for effort involved in bending the engine so much.

>> No.4483725

>>4483715
>Art by definition requires creative skill AND imagination.
Nope.

>> No.4483726

>>4483725
Except yes, this can't be argued.

>> No.4483727

>>4483726
If I draw a squiggly line on a paper and hang it in a gallery, it's still art. Very bad art mind you.

>> No.4483728

like flies on shit

>> No.4483731

>>4483719

Me and my friends were consolefags, and even my pcfag friends didn't preach Doom to me. I was never a FPS guy either, so I never looked beyond the music. Glad I did now, these games are fun.

>>4483720

Boring compared to what?

>> No.4483732

>>4483715
Pollack put effort into his work though. Plenty of people say they could make a Pollack-style painting, but no one ever tries. If they did try, it would end up being a brown, muddied mess. But Pollack paintings are not brown, muddied messes. They're interwoven lines of colour, varied in shape and size. Pollack mastered line in this aspect.

>> No.4483734

>>4483731
>Boring compared to what?
Other Doom games like the first one.

>> No.4483736

>>4483732
Alright then, fine, I concede on this since I really only know some starter stuff in regards to painting.

Though now I wonder because of my mistake, what is the most actually complex piece of art that looks outwardly simple?

I feel like it could be lock puzzles or something similar.

>> No.4483739

>>4483736
Actually, to roll this back to Doom, would video games count as incredibly complex art that looks simple on the outside due to the coding involved?

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>>4483736
Dunno about most seemingly simple, but my favorite type of complex art are mechanical automatons.

The one pictured here, built in the fucking 1700's, can be programmed to write any line of 40 characters with a quill that it even dips.

>> No.4483746

>>4483731
I meant the level name.

>> No.4483749

>>4483740
I remember there being some kind of automaton that could play chess really well supposedly due to things like a chessboard that could feel the weight of the pieces and shit, but I also remember hearing that thing was fake, with a person manipulating it out of sight.

>> No.4483768 [DELETED] 

Stop talking about art, someone explain why there are so many transgenders in Doom community that are MTF. I have nothing against them - I just find it intriguing. Or is this just a video game/coder culture thing only?

>> No.4483770

from one gimmick to another.

>> No.4483775

I'm running Quakespasm but the camera will randomly look fully down at random points. Why is this?

>> No.4483779
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Current mood: things falling apart.

>>4483775
What version of Quakespasm, and which specific exe are you running?

>> No.4483780

>>4483746

Oh, yes, that one. Got to use a lot of plasma gun, fun as fuck.

>> No.4483782

>>4483780
That's exactly when the game starts to go to shit.

>> No.4483789

Are there any other things similar to Doom: One that combine Doom 1, 2, Plutonia, or TNT maps into one big level?

Preferably one that keeps the fiddling with the levels to a minimal, just enough to link them together.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/doomone

>> No.4483791

>>4483779
Whatever the latest one on the website is, and the 12.exe.

>> No.4483794

>>4483791
Don't do that, run the other one. quakespasm-sdl12.exe is the older version kept around for probable compatibility reasons and uses SDL1.2 which is known to have input issues on a lot of systems. As of QS 0.93 (which you're playing, as that's the latest full release), the normal quakespasm.exe uses SDL2 which doesn't cause weird mouse issues, so use that instead.

>> No.4483803

>>4483794
Yeah seems to work now, thanks.

>> No.4483836

>>4483803
>>4483794
>>4483791
I had mouse issues. Just downloaded the latest shit from the website and dropped it into the Quake folder with "overwrite all". Worked fine after that. Only resetted my resolution settings for some reason.

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Finally starting to work these frames in, to make the Garand. Gotta make the PING effect, which at first I thought would totally be bothersome, but thinking about it, it'll probably be pretty easy, I'll just do duplicate primary fire and reloading states, then change those as needed, doing checks and jumps to determine which action happens when.

As of now, it uses 16 units of rifle ammunition to load 8 rounds in the magazine, this is to balance out that it's far more powerful than the AR15 and penetrates enemies, but I also find that this consumes ammo far faster than I'd actually like, so I'm thinking I'll go back to 8 for 8 like normal.
I don't really want to start to make a whole bunch of new ammo types, I'm fine with pools being pistol ammo, shells, rifle ammo, grenades, and then special, I kind of like the simplicity that grants me as both a modder and as a player.

The bayonet animation actually kind of works, at least motion wise, but it's still not really making it clear that there's a blade on the end of the gun.

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>>4483847

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>>4483635

wh-
their radius shouldnt be any different from the default ones
..I need to check on this.

>> No.4483905

>>4483652
Sing the song of Great Salts, Saltiest salior of the digital sea!

>>4483654
Honestly he was showing signs of stepping down due to real life causing less time to work anyway, drama just kinda forced his hand. There were already plans beforehand.

>> No.4483915

>>4483740
It is not "programmed to write any line of 40 characters"
At least, not in any sources I read.
It reproduces several paintings and poems that are stored mechanically on the brass cylinders, and then "relayed" to the paper by mechanical means.
It is basically a player with brass cyllinders being recordings, and those recordings are pure analog.
To record something on those cyllinders, a backward process must be done to a presumably wax bases from which the brass ones are replicated, but the device for doing so did not survive.

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>>4483915
Nah, that's another one by the same maker. Has some "hard coded" portraits and stuff, like a few set things you can make it draw. The Writer however has a dial to compose the message.

>> No.4483935

>>4483847
>The bayonet animation actually kind of works, at least motion wise, but it's still not really making it clear that there's a blade on the end of the gun.
Why not add a "shink" stab sound effect on impact?

>> No.4483937

>>4483749
The, The Turk. It houses a person hidden in the base that controls the doll with pantograph type levers or something.

>> No.4483949
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On the flipside, I find that a magdump from the Garand actually kills a mancubus pretty readily and reliably, compare to a magdump from the AR more or less killing them reliably, so maybe the Garand using 16 units to load it's magazine isn't that bad for balancing.

I think I might have to beef up the health just a slight touch on one or two monsters.
The fact that the faux fuzz effect works in this version of GZDoom, and looks quite good when applied to the spectre's own blood, makes me want to put in a gib state for pinkies, that shit would look radical with the fuzz applied.
I also forgot that Plutonia is actually fun, quite intense.

>>4483935
It does that, I guess I'm just worrying needlessly.

>> No.4483951

>>4483652
Upboat?

>> No.4483958

>>4483951
>it's cool to talk shit about Salz so now I have to go against the grain
I'll cry no tears for him and I'll find it hard to believe you will in my place.

>> No.4483964

>>4483958
Stop forcing your shitty nickname.

>> No.4483965

>>4483958
Not him but wut, I think he just doesn't know upboat means upvote.

>> No.4483969

>>4483958
Did you quote the wrong post?

>> No.4484049 [DELETED] 

Is the doom community a safespace for furries, trannies, SJWs and people who like to masturbate to naked female versions of Imps and Barons

>> No.4484050

>>4484049
you have to go back

>> No.4484051

> player mutated

>> No.4484057 [DELETED] 

>>4484049
Mods please delete this post.

>> No.4484059

>>4483849
Why is episode 4 so comfy? There's something very aesthetically pleasing about most of 4's maps.

>> No.4484061

>>4484049
>trannies
Well there's Cyberdemon531

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>> No.4484072

>>4484049
Yes

>> No.4484082

>>4483720
I understand how the level design is bad, but is there any reason why in general the maps were poorly designed, even compared to Doom 1?
like did ID just run short on time? or did they just not care?

>> No.4484084

>>4484049
>implying every other place isn't a safespace for the latter three groups

>> No.4484086

are we being raided?

>> No.4484087

>>4484057
delet this

>> No.4484102

>>4484082
Probably due to how the levels are formated. If Doom 2 kept the episodic format of Doom, the levels would have had more effort put into them.

>> No.4484107

>>4484082
Romero made the map editor and the designer for most of the maps (Sandy Petersen) was given very little time to learn to use it and make the maps.

>> No.4484108

>>4484102
That has absolutely nothing to do with it, especially since Doom 2 does have intermissions. It's just the fact that it was rushed to shit that the levels were so mediocre.

>> No.4484114

>>4484087
dude he has a gun

>> No.4484117

>>4484114
shit

>> No.4484139

>>4484108
Episodic development tends to be more focused though, either around a certain theme or a certain progression. Doom 2's intermissions don't really serve like episodes, the levels generally stay the same sort of style up until the end where the levels go more hellish/cavernous.

>> No.4484146

gross salz attacks

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>he doesn't know about chaingun sniping

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>>4484147
>He knows about chaingun sniping

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>>4484147
>>4484154

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>>4481346
I'm going to correct myself. The chaingunner hidden behind foliage was not only disguised as a statue, but it was also a motherfucking STEALTH chaingunner. I hope there's a tenth circle of hell reserved for the kind of people who does this shit.

>> No.4484190

Slayer is a super underrated wad
https://youtu.be/F-FcGy1WZK4

>> No.4484245

>>4484190
>SSG in slot 2
>Chaingunners make SSG sounds
Nani?

More mappers should have safe rooms that you can't return to at the start of maps, instead of dumping the player in a swarm of enemies that attack the moment the map's loaded.

>> No.4484249

>>4484245
I prefer the swarm approach because it actually forces you to move around instead of peek and shoot behind walls.

>> No.4484285

My pet peeve in FPS games has always been enemies having weapons I can't get, wish doomguy could pack around the mastermind's super chaingun somehow.

>> No.4484295

>>4484285
there's gameplay mods for that.

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>>4484295
Also Duke Nukem 64 had a Barret knockoff sitting on a wall in a gun shop that you couldn't use.

>> No.4484301

>>4484297
And I fucked up the name, Barrett, with two ts.

>> No.4484315

>>4484295
Like?

>> No.4484327

>>4484315
Not him but the only one I can think of is Johnny Doom, a Brutal Doom offshoot that lets you get random power ups after enough points, one of them being turning your chaingun into the spider mastermind's explosive chaingun.

>> No.4484330

>>4484285
Nintendo Wolfenstein 3d had flamethrower and rocket launcher.

>> No.4484334

>>4484327
Complex Doom has every single gun in the game being obtainable by killing enemies that wield them, the stronger the gun the lower the drop rate.

>> No.4484337

>>4484297

have you tried renting it?

>> No.4484354

>>4484334
Never actually saw that in Complex Doom, I think I remember the quirk of the mastermind chaingun basically being a a high speed version of the seargent's shotgun.

>> No.4484359

>>4484354
>Never actually saw that in Complex Doom
Well it's true, you got your ssg guys, plasma, bfg, rocket, super chaingun, grenade launcher etc. The only exception is the railgun zombies who are weak as shit so making them drop such a powerful weapon wouldn't make sense, instead you get the railgun from a crybruiser, who is a rare baron variation.

>> No.4484364

>>4484315
Equilibrium. It replaces almost EVERYTHING in your arsenal with enemy weapons.

>> No.4484375

>>4484364
Looked it up.

>Skul Cannon as name for lost soul launcher.

Looks like Doomguy got as skul gun before Gunther did.

>> No.4484380

>>4484375
I just remembered this insanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uOA3IqJDdY

>> No.4484498

>>4483958
what is your damage, lmao

>>4483951
slang term for upvote

>> No.4484531

>>4484249
Did you see the video? You can't peek from that room. Something similar would be teleporting the player into the action when they're ready.

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>>4483491
this just in: the monsters are afraid of doomguy's weapons

https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/945729078878973952

>> No.4484543

>>4484285
DESU it's difficult to pull off this sort of thing outside a military shooter or melee focused game, as it has to something that's works as both a player weapon and an enemy weapon. Otherwise it's just frustrating to fight or shit to use.

>> No.4484550

>>4484531
I saw something neat in a wad where a relatively tough enemy would teleport in front of a switch with monster-blocking lines around it so that the player would absolutely be required to kill it before moving on.

>> No.4484551

>>4484542
the lore seems to be falling into place each time the developers throw out word on it. it might not be entirely canon but it's amusing to thin of it as that.

>> No.4484560
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>>4484542
imagine their reactions to the weapon mods in doom 4 lmao

>> No.4484569
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4484569

Well it doesn't look so bad if you don't look too closely.

>> No.4484574

>>4484569
your bayonet looks a bit dull

>> No.4484576

>>4484542
The demons can distort reality as much they want. but nothing will taint the purity of Super Shotkun

>> No.4484579

>>4484569
Why does this remind me of Goldeneye

>> No.4484580

>>4484154
>>4484158
gotta write this down
> make chaingunners' first two shots perfectly accurate
> make chaingunners chaintap at long distances

>> No.4484581
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>>4484580

>> No.4484582

>>4484580
calm down satan

>> No.4484594
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4484594

Fuck, my drive for this map is lost. All the fiddling today and I only got stairs done.
Then again, I also beat Sil, made sesame chicken and played through some slaughterwads, so it wasn't wholly unprodictive.

>> No.4484598

>>4484594
> sunder/sunlust esque architecture
> funky texture selection
> circles circles circles
i'm guessing floatrand

>> No.4484601
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4484601

Yeah, doing the PING was actually way easier than I initially thought.
It will now visibly send the spent en-bloc flying with it's classic PING, the clip bouncing against surfaces and making dinging noises as it does so. Very satisfying IMO, many games only add the initial ping and then don't bother with the sound of the clip hitting against surfaces.

>>4484574
I know. I might have to do something to it, though I don't really know what, I guess I could apply a grain filter to it or something.

>>4484579
It's probably how I'm kind of just fudging reload animations here, the gun swinging down to the side and doing some motion and sound and that's your reload animation.
I think I'd go insane trying to put together an actually visible reloading animation for this.

>> No.4484603

>>4484598
Yup. Trying to make a "single arena" sort of map, but it is proving to be tricky.

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4484605

>>4484601
>50 hours in photoshop
on serious note, my first thought was just to add two pixels like so, no idea how many anims you got for it, but I dont think it should be too hard as its just a tweak, not a new spritework

>> No.4484609

>>4484605
The frame there is static as fuck, this is the only time you actually see the bayonet blade in first person and it's just moved by offsets, so that'd be easy to do.

I suppose it actually looks like a butterknife without those added pixels.

>> No.4484619
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4484619

>>4484605
>>4484609
Now?

>> No.4484624

>>4484619
It looks like the end of your gun is brandishing a little sword, it's cute

>> No.4484626
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4484626

>>4484624
That means it's working.

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4484634

>>4484624

>> No.4484649
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>>4484634
>>4484624
Y'all should see WW1 bayonets, pic related is a shotgun sword used to shoot at/stab Germans.

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>>4484649
oversized bayonets are my fetish

>> No.4484659

>>4483720

Well, I continued to play and it does feel like a totally diferent " design philosophy".

>> No.4484660

>>4484634
I wanna see a mod with Gun w/ a Sword

>> No.4484662

>>4483720
"Hated" is a pretty strong word.

>> No.4484667

>>4484660
mod where you ARE a gun holding a sword

>> No.4484668

>>4483775
Disable lookspring in the options menu.

>> No.4484671

>>4484667
How about a Z& mod with the opposing team using Sword w/ Gun

>> No.4484672
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4484672

>>4484651
Nothing like high firepower and a good pointy blade on the end, it's like a long spear that can also spit death.

>> No.4484673

Do any of you esteemed gentlemen perhaps recall the whereabouts of a location at which one could acquire collections of images that simulate moving beings when flipped through? Specifically, electronic flipbooks which are reminiscent of the characters in the digital warfare-simulator Wolfenstein 3D manufactured by the electronic amusement corporation referred to as id software, named so in reference to the works of psychoanalyst and psychologist Sigmund Freud. If you are in possession of the knowledge, please reply to this virtual message that I have posted here with great haste and expediency. Please attach the coordinates which should lead one such as my self to the bountiful treasure trove which can be found only on the interconnected network which is vulgarly shortened to the colloquial term "internet". I salute you and thank you warmly in advance for your potential contribution.

>> No.4484674

>>4484285
What bothers me is when your player model has a gun that you never get to use, which happens all the time in older FPS games. And on a similar note, mods that do allow you to use those guns feel pretty comfy to me.

>> No.4484676

>>4484674
Ditto. I also love when mods have characters with actual melee attack sprites, or the rare few that have sprites for all of their weapons

>> No.4484680
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4484680

>>4483720
>hated
General consensus is that Doom 2 has a strong first cour and then after that quality varies wildly.
Some hate the middle and last third entirely, some find a few favorites here and there, some like many of the maps which are generally disliked, but many will tell you it's not as fun past a certain point.
To me, it's full speed ahead until Map 12 where my enthusiasm just dies, because I hate that level and there's a lot of levels which really aren't fun which are coming up, there's many dull moments until I reach Barrels Of Fun.
Doom 1, while a simpler game in some ways, I feel holds a more consistent quality throughout, there's few maps I dislike in it, nothing that just kills my stride like Doom 2 Map 12

It's not hated outright (not by many people anyway), it's just seen as imperfect. Final Doom uses all the new assets it brought in and did some quite more impressive things, and in general, the new assets that came from Doom 2 have been an absolutely invaluable gift to the community for the past two decades, which in my opinion offsets the uneven quality in level design, we really could not have sustained ourselves as well as we have without Doom 2.
Doom 2 could have the worst level design in history, and it would still have been worth it for the assets, but thankfully, it actually isn't that bad.

>> No.4484686

>>4484651
That thing reminds me of the Alpha machine gun.

>> No.4484687

>>4484673
what

>> No.4484690
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4484690

Gonna go see my folks for the holidays. No work for 2 weeks, aside from bugfixing maps and maybe making another map depending on factors.

In case anyone is curious.

>> No.4484693

>>4484690
The protag of REKKR has good taste in consoles.
But what game is it?

>> No.4484697

>>4484693
X, as you can see.

>> No.4484698

>>4484690
That puppy is too fucking adorable.

>> No.4484701
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>>4484686
I'd love to know what toys they used for some of the alpha weapons, for the machinegun it's probably something based on various characteristics of late WW2/early Cold War subguns.

>> No.4484702

>>4484687
I think he wants Wolfenstein 3d sprites.

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4484703

>>4484701
Thinking about it, the pistol is supposed to have been a water pistol based on a Beretta M9, that they spray painted black, which makes the think that subgun from the Alpha might have been another water gun painted black.

>> No.4484704

>>4484703
Does that mean HDoom was right?

>> No.4484707

>>4484702
in that case, spriter's resource could have it

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>>4484704
Maybe~

>> No.4484710

>>4484701
That's Wolfenstein 2 SMG.

>> No.4484714

>>4484710
oh shit haha, you're right.

one thing that bothered me in nuwolf and nudoom is how every weapon seems to be futuristic in some way. where'd the simplistic wooden stock aesthetic go, man.

>> No.4484716

>>4484560
nice night for a walk

>> No.4484717

>>4484714
>where'd the simplistic wooden stock aesthetic go, man
That's something I absolutely love about classic Doom, how it's sci-fi and all, and there's space ships, teleporters and plasma guns, but a lot of the guns and tech just looks really crude and primitive.

>> No.4484719

>>4484710
No it's not. It's a swedish m/45. The Wolfenstein smg is based off of the german mp-40 which looks superficially similar.

The m/45 is characterized by a low fire rate, being full auto only, and with the B version being rated for and issued with some nasty high velocity AP ammo.

>> No.4484720

>>4484693
only 2 games on the SNES had red carts iirc

>> No.4484721

>>4484720
Maximum carnage and Doom?
Oh.

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>>4484719
>>4484710
>>4484714
I see quite a number of different features reminiscent of other subguns. It doesn't strictly look much like an MP40 to me.

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4484727

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58875
>those replies

>> No.4484743

>>4484727
There is literally nothing wrong with reloading.

>> No.4484749

>>4484719
So ironically it works more like the Wolfenstein machine gun than an actual MP40?

>> No.4484750

>>4484727
>steampunk
yeah im not seeing that

>> No.4484753

>>4483652
>been away from these threads for a while
>come back to this
Oh Graf, thanks for the late xmas gift!

>> No.4484756

>>4484750
Steampunk =/= cogfoppery. Think Victorian-era up to early WW1.

>> No.4484764

>>4484756

>Steampunk =/= cogfoppery
yeah, I get that, but most of the weapons look more post-ww2

oh and speaking of cogfoppery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA

>> No.4484772

>>4483652
So mods will stop breaking with new releases then?

>> No.4484775

>>4484727
I dislike angled weapons, I only think reloads are acceptable with centered ones. other than that it looks cool I guess. nice sprites on them guns, the effects are pretty to look at too.

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>>4484775
>I dislike angled weapons, I only think reloads are acceptable with centered ones.
I used to like them a lot, for Doom, but gradually I've just come to prefer centered ones as they generally fit the style better (IMO).

That said, with centered weapons, you can have angled reloading sprites, which is a nice compromise of having centered weapons and showing off a cool gun.

>> No.4484830

>>4483964
what?

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Is it still accurate today?

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>>4484840

>> No.4484850

>195 people playing only right now
holy shit what.

>> No.4484853

>>4484727
>filthyfrank shitter overreacting

Nothing to see here.

>> No.4484856

>>4483727
>Very bad art
Just like Lilith

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4484863

>>4484849
All you did was brighten up zdaemon. Care to explain?

>> No.4484867

>>4484849
>ZDoom's 'What Gets Played'
Well that's way out of date; needs High Noon Drifter, Lithium, and FinalDoomer added, probably Trailblazer and a few more too.

>Zandronum's 'What Gets Played'
Needs ComplexDoom+LCA, ComplexDoom+LCA, ComplexDoom+LCA, and maybe also ComplexDoom+LCA

>ZDoom's 'Developers'
That... may also be out of date

>> No.4484871

>>4484560
P-pic related?

>> No.4484874

>>4484856

[ ] Stick to developing the source port; don't come into people's threads telling them what they can and can't make, don't shitpost in award nominations threads telling people what they can & can't give awards to, and don't delete bug reports because you don't like being reminded of the fact that ACS string tables get corrupted across saves

[ ] Fuck off entirely

Pick one, graf.

>> No.4484889

>>4484867
Barely anyone plays Complex Doom anymore. There's like 4 servers with people in them and most of them have only 1 player in them. The most popular servers are always DM/LMS like MM8DM.

>> No.4484892

>>4484863
People who play ZDaemon tend to have high gamma on.

>> No.4484917

>>4484863
Zdaemon not only is played by most memebers with higher gamma, the default preferences are pretty damn bright.

>> No.4484925

>>4484889
That actually makes a bit of sense as they're actively developed for and compatible. Complex Doom has it's attractions and full servers on a good day (along with rarely the D4T deathmatch server), but IIRC Zan 3.0 killed most addons and shit.

Also there's FnF and the like every week. Attendance may have waned as of late but it's still fun.

>> No.4484931

>>4484867
God I hate LCA. Nothing quite like running into a zombieman that can kill you quicker than a mastermind. they also have the bright idea of making every lca server survival, so you can watch the one guy storm through the rest of the map because he got a lucky hit on the zombie and got all of his stuff.

>> No.4484954

>>4484560
who is this

>> No.4484965

>>4484954
me.

>> No.4484967

>>4484965
You got some big motherfucking thighs boy.

>> No.4484983

>>4484853
what is your problem

>> No.4484985
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>>4484850
>Multiplayer for a game well over 20 years old has more players online at 12am than Lawbreaker, Evolve or Battleborn
The absolute state of the modern gaming industry

>> No.4484989

>>4484560
if you edited out his head he would look like a pinky from behind

>> No.4485023

>>4484985
well yeah. that's easy when you're cherrypicking notable flops.

>> No.4485043

>>4485023
It seems like pretty modern phenomenon for games to die as fast as those did, I can't really think of big budget games from a decade or two that really falls into that "single digit player count within a month" category, maybe I'm wrong and I'm forgetting something?

>> No.4485047

>>4485043
market is oversaturated and everyone is joining late into competition, on top of that players are not willing to sacrifice their knowlege and skill in one game to learn another one, thats why even CoD dropped in numbers

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>>4484989

>> No.4485068
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>>4484560
>>4484989
>>4485054

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>>4485068
FUCKING CHAINGUNNERS

>> No.4485079

>>4485054
that's actually lowkey disturbing for some reason

>> No.4485080

>>4485054
>we should've bought the invisible spray

>> No.4485083

How casual am I if i like playing on the lowest difficulty?
should i just kill myself

>> No.4485092

>>4485083
pretty fucking casual but play how you want so whatever

i'd still tell you to bump up the diff because mechanically there's no difference between ITYTD and HNTR aside from double ammo, and then work your way up to HMP and UV

>> No.4485114

>>4485083
just play at whatever you are comfortable with

>> No.4485120

>>4485092
>mechanically there's no difference between ITYTD and HNTR aside from double ammo
ITYTD halves the damage you take.

>> No.4485131

>>4485083
i can tell you're asking this and low key want someone to call you a fucking baby.

either play on the hardest difficulty settings possible, die until you stop dying, and clean house or get the fuck out of here and kill yourself

i never play hardest difficulty if monsters respawn in doom mods

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>>4485078

>> No.4485157

>>4485054
top fucking kek

>> No.4485158

https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/945916947568275457
that was fast

>> No.4485183

How do I replicate the behaviour of the Duke's Protective Boots and Scuba Gear?
They sit in inventory, displaying their % left, and activate automatically when needed in context.
I looked through many doom mods that alter behaviour of powerups, but everywhere the hazmat analogue is either instanntly used or has to be used from inventory, and is never toggled on/off automatically which is what I want.
So how?

>> No.4485223

>>4483624
bump

>> No.4485238

>>4483624
>>4485223
Yeah, I've got the Megaton Edition too and I just checked the folder, it's got the .GRP files.

>> No.4485242

>>4485238
cool thanks

>> No.4485289
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4485289

have you yelled at a mapper today?

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>>4485289

>> No.4485305

>>4485289
>>4485295
your alignments are getting better, i'm impressed

>> No.4485327

What you guys think about the source port of Blood?

>> No.4485423

>>4485327
Would be nice to have one.

>> No.4485430

>>4485423
>to have one

>> No.4485449
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4485449

You think he still does?

>> No.4485450

>>4485423

Anon, are you okay?

http://www.moddb.com/games/blood/news/bloodgdx-a-blood-sourceport-released

>https://blood-wiki.org/index.php/Blood

I saw this link yesterday and some fuckwit turned it into shit, what the fuck.

>> No.4485453

>>4485449
>Weird Al playing Jenesis or another wad with good music.

Fund it.

>> No.4485457

>>4485450
Can't have source port without source code.
Though this one is somewhat on the borderline.

>> No.4485461

>>4485453
He's genuinely musically talented, I wonder if he ever stuck around for a time anonymously and made some .midi track for some project in the 90's?

Probably not, but it's fun to consider.

>> No.4485468
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4485468

why were homing rockets on skeletrons ever considered a good idea

>> No.4485469

>>4485468
Doom 2 was a bad idea in general.

>> No.4485471

>>4485469
Your post was a bad idea.

>> No.4485472

>>4485468
would you be happier if they were limited homing
like, once they fly past you, they stop homing

>> No.4485476

>>4485183
I dunno. Have it run checks to see when the player is on a damaging floor, and have the powerup count down when they are. Russian overkill did something similar with the salvationsphere, so automatic powerups are definitely possible.

>> No.4485482

>>4485472
To be honest, yeah. they get -obnoxious- with how sharp they can turn when they're following you around.

don't mind having something more tricky to dodge than an imp fireball, curveballs are fine, but it feels like if you don't find a pillar to hide behind immediately after they fire, you have to run halfway across the damn map to shake one of those things off.

>> No.4485492

I keep deleting my maps and starting over!

>> No.4485495

Found a thing I hate in Doom maps.

Community Chest 1 has a secret in map 12 you can be locked out of permanently for reasons completely unavoidable if you don't know about the trigger line to close the secret door.

>> No.4485510

>>4485457
oh, you are that faggot
ok then

>> No.4485512
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>>4485468
Because it makes for a distinct enemy that can make for distinct encounters.
Yeah he could fire straight rockets all the time, but how fun is that? He isn't really that different from other projectile enemies in that regard if that's the case.
The fact that his projectiles are sometimes homing means that you need to consider him at longer ranges and the projectiles in flight (the homing ones) completely differently to any regular fireball, and the fact that they aren't consistently homing, but only sometimes, makes him less predictable.

He's perhaps one of the best additions of all of Doom 2, next to the Arch-Vile, simply because of what a complete change he is compared to other monsters, both alone and intermixed in other encounters he completely turns the fight on it's head and you have to reconsider your strategies, he makes things more interesting.

Besides, Doom 2 gives you the super shotgun, which helps tremendously for when they get up close and want to start clobbering.

>>4485469
Eat your spinach.

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4485523

>>4485468
Don't blame the angry calcium. Blame the stupid maps/mappers that use them wrongly.

also get better at dodging

>> No.4485528

>>4485495
Here's some more to the hatelist:
Incinsistency in damaging liquids - same liquid doing varying damage or no damage at all per author's desire, especially bad when its on the same map, but inconsistency across the wad is terrible too. I'm playing Plutonia 2 right now, and it is very much guilty of this - mud and blood are completely random on whether they are safe or not, in the same levels. Weird, considering that it is a rather renown wad, I thought this flaw would catch more attention.
Textures that are pegged the wrong way, resulting in "folding" effect when a wall slides up/down. Plutonia2 is also guilty of this.

Traps on optional powerups that completely negate the powerup - like invul that locks you in a room with monsters for 30 seconds. You loose nothing by skipping it, you gain nothing by taking it, and sometimes you loose more than you gain. That's simply a bad encounter design made by someone who tried to be clever but failed.

False EXITs

>> No.4485532
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4485532

>>4485472
I disagree, that makes them even more dangerous, yet also exploitable.
It doesn't take too much practice to learn how to trick boner's rockets into other enemies.

On an unrelated note, Osiris TC had some chill-ass music, if you can find it, listen to it.

>> No.4485538

Speaking of Homing Attacks, how do you beat that final encounter of Dead.Air?

I couldn't outrun the cyberdemon's homing missiles and I'd constantly die even while strafe-running

>> No.4485541

>>4485538
>how do you beat that final encounter of Dead.Air?
You play better.

>> No.4485543

>>4485541
very helpful response yes

>> No.4485548

>>4485538
For some reason their homing completely shits the bed if you stay close to the cybies while strafing. Like, SSG range.

>> No.4485550

hey lads, I want to provide my crappy musical services to y'all. I'm junk at map making so instead I just want to provide original tunes for other talented individuals to use in their wads.

however, it can't be midi; I only work with analog stuff unfortunately. Some source ports can take straight mp3s tho right?

>> No.4485554

>>4485550
Post your soundcloud/whatever

>> No.4485569

>>4485550
Some dark fantasy/mody stuff that won't look out of place in Heretic would be great.

>> No.4485576 [DELETED] 

So I just made this garbage a few hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR21wLrkNxk
http://namboner.com/My_Wads/dmpalsnd.wad

>> No.4485585

How the fuck do I get D4D to work?
I'm using the newest version of GZDoom btw

>> No.4485587

>>4485576
Ah.

The sweet sight and sound of oblivion.

>> No.4485589

>>4485585

You throw the zip file into the launcher.

>> No.4485591

B R U T A L
D O O M

>> No.4485594

>>4485585
>GZDoom
My condolences.

>> No.4485595

>>4485538
I had the best luck moving in an oval-ish shape that puts me close to them at two points.

>> No.4485603

>>4485595
Also fuck the grenade launcher, never touched it outside of its training area.

>> No.4485604

>>4485576
Not enough filters.

>> No.4485609

>>4485576
Is this what Graf tried to warn us about?

>> No.4485610
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4485610

>>4485594
what's wrong with it?

>> No.4485613

>>4485603
And if Xaser is checking this place, the easy way to make the grenade launcher in Dead.air so much better would be to cut the time it takes for the grenades to detonate on their own by at least half.

>> No.4485614 [DELETED] 

>>4485609
I personally think that it's as good as lilith.pk3; so my WAD is deserving of a Cacoward.

>> No.4485645
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4485645

>>4485576
>>4485587

>> No.4485686

>>4485495
this is a hallmark of Use3D maps.

>> No.4485690
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4485690

>>4485528
Invuln in particular is very hard to use imo, since either it is useless or you can cheese an encounter. There are ways to use it cleverly, but usually it is hard to accommodate level design. Currently trying to make a map with invuln start in mind, but gotta see how it ends up.

>> No.4485692

>>4485690
One way to handle invul to the player: Show the player an invul that is out of reach, start the encounter, during the encounter make the invul available so that player has to outmaneuvre enemies to grab it

>> No.4485716

>>4485554
I don't have any of that stuff. I don't even have an audio interface (yet) since I just noodle for my own enjoyment mostly.

>>4485569
my theremin is great for things like that when filtered

>> No.4485725

What's a good mapset for Doom Delta, aside from Doom 1?

>> No.4485727

>>4485725
Doom 2.

>> No.4485729
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4485729

Has anyone ever drawn additional lighting animation frames for the Gauntlets of the Necromancer? 3 frames get very repetitive very fast.

>> No.4485730
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4485730

>>4485727
Now I have to punish you.

>> No.4485739
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4485739

so my HDD named after DooM comic due to its biggest size died and needs to be formated before I can use it again, what should I name it to reference DooM now?

>> No.4485758

>>4485739
Get it to a service center - they might revive it.
My drive got successfully revived once

>> No.4485760

>>4485758
right before pressing button to format, I got an error message that operation is unavailable or something, I check and turns out HDD is back to normal, 15 mins later or so it shits the bed again, formatting it now, anything important was already backed up earlier, all I am loosing is vidya, while DooM is on C: drive, all my quake games were on E:

>> No.4485763
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4485763

>trying to make my first map
>have an area where you enter a hub/lobby with chaingunners shooting down at the player and pillars to hide behind
>it looks like ass and is annoying to play when testing
I like the start to my map but this bit is shite.

>> No.4485769

>>4485763
Make them riflemen.

>> No.4485779

how can I animate a decal without using flatsprite?

>> No.4485794 [DELETED] 

Hello. My name is Bloodshedder, and I am really really really really fucking gay. One day I was bouncing my tiny pogo stick up and down to my Jay Jay the Jet Plane hentai, when a wad was uploaded to the archives, and I really didn't like it. It made me want to spill my piss jar all over my Barney the Dinosaur vore crayon drawings. So I did what any fag would do, and I stormed into Ty Halderman's house, and I raped his asshole like ehrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhr hahahahahahahahaha cumming soi soi soi soi soi soi soi. I then fucked his cat and shoved it into his poophole. He died weeks later. After that I decided to brainwash Doomworld and zdoom forums into making me the new maintainer of the quote unquote archives. I really wanted to do that because I really fucking hate terry wads and they make me sad so I think that no one else should be able to enjoy them. They also employed the queer herring to help my crusade. We commonly stick our penises into each other's urethras and finger each others nipples. I also once pooped on my Flandre Scarlet body pillow and had him lick the poopy off of it. We both came instantly once we tasted the yummy poopy. I at first had trouble getting my 0.0000001 inch dick into his anus, but I bought a vacuum cleaner to stick my dick inside to stretch it, and it eventually got to 1 inch long. I was very happy that day. My favorite thing to do with him is to piss in his hair, and then rip out his hair, and then shove it up my ass so far until it comes out of my mouth, and then I stick it into my cock and masturbate to more Jay Jay the Jet Plane hentai while he shoves his head into my rectum, it makes me cum in 1 second. However, my penis is very worn out from constant fucking with him, and I've had to call over other fuckbuddies to help me out, like Linguica, Scuba Steve, Sergeant Mark 4, Mordeth, and most importantly, my grandpa, in order to have huge poopy orgies that make my penis so worn out that it wraps around to being fresh.

>> No.4485796 [DELETED] 

>>4485794
t. Drew Pickles

>> No.4485801

>>4485763
Lower the blue carpet a bit and raise the ceilings with lights. Already it will look a bit better.

>> No.4485802 [DELETED] 

lingxpozd.epizy.com
Linguica EXPOSED SomethingAwful GOON Moderator "nigger death" HOLOCAUST JOKE Forum "woke" Linguica mocks suicide! 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE EXPOSED RAPIST LAIR HELP ME

>> No.4485803 [DELETED] 
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4485803

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
EXPOSED Linguica CHILD ABUSER RAPIST MURDERER ANDREW STINE

>> No.4485805 [DELETED] 
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4485805

HELP ME GUYS I'VE BEEN HACKED BY BLOODSHEDDER

>> No.4485807
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4485807

>visiting family
>finally have time for Doom because everyone's drunk
>decide to go through mod backlog
>Get to ProjectBabel.pk3
I'm very surprised by just how good this is. Out of all the "Vanilla Plus" mods I think this one is the best I've ever played. It's balanced super well, lots of visual options so craptops like mine can play it, and most importantly it still feels like Doom, just with more mechanics. My only gripe is that Barons are a bit much in groups like on Tricks and Traps but getting the BFG, which is now some kind of multi-seeker-plasma launcher, can fix that up pretty fast. Aside from that I do prefer the tracers off just so it's easier to tell what's going on, plus my laptop can handle the projectiles better without the visual fluff.
Now I'm just wondering which modder is making this under a different name because I have a hard time believing that it's just some guy considering how well crafted the mod is.

>> No.4485808 [DELETED] 
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LINGUICA MICROPENIS EXPOSED

>> No.4485813 [DELETED] 
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4485813

http://theblood.epizy.com/
Bloodshedder JAY JAY THE JET PLANE H3NT4I jacks off to SMALL PENISES

>> No.4485815 [DELETED] 
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4485815

http://theblood.epizy.com
BLOODSHEDDER EXPOSED FOR BARNEY THE DINOSAUR VORE

>> No.4485817 [DELETED] 
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4485817

http://theblood.epizy.com/
BLOODSHEDDER EXPOSED !
BLOODSHEDDER 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE RAPIST

>> No.4485819 [DELETED] 
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4485819

http://theblood.epizy.com/
BLOODSHEDDER POOPY DILDO ORGY PORNO

>> No.4485821

MODS

>> No.4485823 [DELETED] 
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4485823

gasp BLOODSHEDDERS 1 INCH penis PICS
THE TRUTH ABOUT BLOODSHEDDER'S BOYFRIEND
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485826 [DELETED] 
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4485826

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
"WOKE" LINGUICA EXPOSED MODERATOR OF RACIST SOMETHINGAWFUL FORUM

>> No.4485829

I take it Cyber got banned from Doomworld? Either her clique or Nambona and BNDN shitters would be butthurt enough to carry this out.

>> No.4485831

>>4485829
just dont pet the caco and we will all be fine

>> No.4485832 [DELETED] 
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4485832

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
"PROGRESSIVE" LINGUICA EXPOSED MODERATOR OF HOLOCAUST JOKE FORUM

>> No.4485834

lol it's Carlos Guariglia

>> No.4485835 [DELETED] 
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4485835

http://theblood.epizy.com/
FLANDRE SCARLET BODY PILLOW POOPED ON BY BLOODSHEDDER AND SHOVED INTO TY HALDERMAN'S ass

>> No.4485836

>>4485831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sVIs9Jvmy8&ab_channel=REFRESH

>> No.4485838 [DELETED] 
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EXPOSED
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
EXPOSED

>> No.4485841

so guys uh dooms pretty fun huh i really like e2m1s music

>> No.4485842 [DELETED] 
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4485842

http://theblood.epizy.com/
BLOODSHEDDER BEHIND RAPE AND MURDER OF 69 YEAR OLD MAN

>> No.4485845 [DELETED] 
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4485845

THE SECOND COMING
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
TREE FU TOM IS CUMMING

>> No.4485849
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4485849

>>4485831

>> No.4485850

someone registered as "david icke" on doomworld and made this exact set of posts

>> No.4485851 [DELETED] 
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4485851

BLOODSHEDDER AND LINGUICA SEX TAPE
http://theblood.epizy.com/
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/

>> No.4485852 [DELETED] 
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4485852

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU

>> No.4485854 [DELETED] 
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4485854

LINGUICA FUCKED BY SANTA HARD PICS HERE
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/

>> No.4485856

>>4485829
FRIGGIN The Evil Mastermind Tyrant NAMBONA is behind yet another attack on our beautiful Vanilla DOOM community! Let us banned them!

>> No.4485857 [DELETED] 
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4485857

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
SMELL LINGUICAS SMALL PENIS HERE

>> No.4485858

is this a common occurrence here

sorry I don't go on /vr/ much

>> No.4485859

lol, of fucking course.

>> No.4485860 [DELETED] 
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4485860

IM SWINGING LEAKED PICS HERE
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485861

>>4485858
no, just dont pet the caco and remember friendly advice

>> No.4485862

>>4485858
Not really. It appears a particular problem poster has decided to go over the edge.

>> No.4485864 [DELETED] 
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4485864

BARNEY THE DINOSAUR IS REAL PROOF SEX TAPE WITH BLOODSHEDDER
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485865 [DELETED] 
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4485865

THE AMAZING ADVENTURES OF JAY JAY THE JET PLANES HENTAI SEARCH
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485871

MODS!!

>> No.4485873 [DELETED] 
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4485873

http://theblood.epizy.com/
linguica and bloodshedder POOPY BLOOD URETHRA SEX
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/

>> No.4485874 [DELETED] 
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4485874

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
LINGUICA STICKS HIS PENIS INTO SCUBA STEVE SEX TAPE EXPOSED

>> No.4485875

usually the mods are quicker than this. usually.

>> No.4485876 [DELETED] 
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4485876

http://theblood.epizy.com/
EXPOSED BLOODSHEDDER 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE COLUMBUS INDIANA TOWN RAPIST

>> No.4485878

thank god for 4chanX's "werk tyme" mode

>> No.4485879

>>4485858
Looks a lot like what sometimes happens on /v/ when some butthurt normalfag gets triggered by anime so hard he decides to try backseat modding by spamming scat.

>> No.4485880 [DELETED] 
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4485880

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WON'T LET YE GET AWAY WITH THIS, KAKALORE!!!!!!!

>> No.4485881 [DELETED] 
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4485881

CHILD MOLESTER ARRESTED AT 850 DRIFTWOOD AVE
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485883 [DELETED] 
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4485883

I WANT YOU TO GET IN ME SHIT ENCRUSTED COCK RIGHT NOW
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

http://theblood.epizy.com/
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/

>> No.4485884

>>4485879
the person most likely behind this is a weeb so nice try

>> No.4485886

>>4485862
>>4485861
>pet the caco
huh?

also I honestly can't tell, is this normal autistic shitposting or truly troubled-in-the-head shitposting

and it seems to revolve around a certain individual...? man 4chan drama could fill many a novel

>> No.4485887

>>4485886
There is a story here that probably is not as interesting as our spastic guest makes it out to be.

>> No.4485889 [DELETED] 

[ge] popin lyk tha dik ova here
grapevineelites.tk

>> No.4485890

>>4485884
who do you suspect it is? as i said i've seen these exact posts on doomworld before.

>> No.4485892

>>4485886
>dont pet the caco
dont respond
>friendly advice
report and hide
just ignore that spamming faggot and talk about doom/retro fps

>> No.4485893 [DELETED] 
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4485893

DOOMWORLD ADMINS EXPOSED FOR HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS
http://theblood.epizy.com/
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
DOOMWORLD ADMINS EXPOSED FOR HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS

>> No.4485897 [DELETED] 
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4485897

HELP ME I'VE BEEN HACKED BY JIMMY NEUTRON
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/

>> No.4485898
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4485898

Oh looks, it's that time of the year again

>> No.4485901 [DELETED] 
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4485901

HAGRID SUCKS BLOODSHEDDER UP INTO HIS SHIT ENCRUSTED ASSHOLE TO FUEL THE GROWTH OF HIS NIPPLE HAIRS
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485902

>>4485779
ANIMDEFS should work anon

>> No.4485903

>>4485858
spamming gore and scat is not common, unless you count when sarais has a new map to screenshot. ahaha no but seriously folks, i don't remember the last time there was gore spam here.

>> No.4485904 [DELETED] 

POOPY RAPE BLOODSHEDDER EXPOSED
http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/

>> No.4485905

>>4485890
What I'd like to know is why Doomworld drama leads to spamming on here of all places.

>> No.4485912

>>4483656
Not to mention that QZDoom made GZDoom pretty much obsolete with its new features and superiority so we'd be fine even without the retarded crybaby as the community would keep the port alive anyways.

>> No.4485914 [DELETED] 

http://lingxpozd.epizy.com/
MAN GOT DICK SUCKED FOR LILITH.PK3 CACOWARD????
http://theblood.epizy.com/

>> No.4485915

i seem to have reached the post report quota. please can someone take over, starting from 4485901. thanks.

>> No.4485916

Thanks mods

>> No.4485917

>>4485915
I have yet to hit mine, but I am barely keeping up and I didnt report everything up top

>> No.4485918

Oh thank god, that was awful.

>> No.4485919
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4485919

>>4485903
kek

>> No.4485920
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4485920

thanks mods

>> No.4485921

based mods

>> No.4485923

>>4485905
/vr/ got mentioned in a cacoward I guess?

>> No.4485925

>>4485905
We've had massive chimpouts courtesy of certain problem individuals before.

>> No.4485927

>>4485914
>MAN GOT DICK SUCKED FOR LILITH.PK3 CACOWARD????

Has Graf finally lost it? Or just someone false-flagging?

>> No.4485929

>>4485925
Who do you think it was this time?

>> No.4485930

>>4485925
at least we aren't perma-shut-down like the poor /kspg/

>> No.4485931

>>4485725
Doom the way id did series?

>> No.4485943

>>4485931
he said 'good mapsets', anon, not garbage.

>> No.4485948

>>4485943
I respect your bad opinion

>> No.4485949

>>4485943
At least he didn't mention KDIZD.

>> No.4485956

>>4485931
Actually that's a pretty logical choice, and I haven't played that in years, so I'll barely remember what's what, it'll be almost new.
I never did play TWID2 so that'll be all new to me as well.

>>4485943
Bad taste senpai.

>> No.4485957

>>4485956
you might also like Wonderful Doom

>> No.4485959
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4485959

>>4485730
the fuck is that thing

>> No.4485960

>>4485957
I think I played that like... fucking years ago. When did it come out? I just vaguely remember that at all, it seems quite distant to me, like it's from the past decade.

>> No.4485962

>>4485492

Finally, my own clone.
Now both of us can become virgins again!

>> No.4485965

So... I'm playing through Plutonia 2 and the idea behind Map32 really grabbed me.
That is basically a remix/reimagining of the most iconic areas of the stock Doom levels with some added extra twists.

So my idea is a "Setpiece Doom": take iconic and memorable setpieces and areas in both stock Dooms and the most iconic wads, then string them together in a single big level (or several big levels), while adding some extras to them so they feel fresher.

>> No.4485970

Posted the information about the chimpout on doomworld, Thread got deleted already, but I'm sure their janitor will give lings an info.

>> No.4485971

>>4485970
i am 90% sure they don't really care, but i admire your effort anyway

>> No.4485974
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4485974

>>4485769
>>4485801
Thanks guys, it actually is looking a bit better now. I forgot how effective riflemen are in moderate numbers too. It makes the area dangerous to hang around in but not bullshit like the chaingunners made it.

>> No.4485978

>>4485974
I would recommend changing ceiling and floor textures in those windows for more contrasts, these could be confused with flat wall on small res or low contrast setups

>> No.4486000

>>4485978
Eh the inside of the window is darker than the outside, and you can see things on the other side of it, it looks readable to me

>> No.4486007

>>4485729
In other words, Smooth Heretic when?

>> No.4486016
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4486016

what the fuck just happened?

>> No.4486018 [DELETED] 

>>4486016
you were born.

>> No.4486023

>>4486016
someone chimped out over bloodshedder

again

>> No.4486028

>>4486018
this wasn't funny the first time either.

>> No.4486029
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4486029

oh god i can't do this

>> No.4486038

>>4486029
Daisy's already dead anyway, easy choice.

>> No.4486043

>>4485528
The best powerup traps allow you to escape from the trap with minimal loss in benefit through fast reaction time and good strategy.

>> No.4486047

>>4485610
GZDoom breaks compatibility very frequently. Try using an older version of GZDoom.

>> No.4486049
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4486049

>>4486029
Demons never truly die, so Daisy gets to live this time.

>> No.4486081

>>4486029
Save your cute little bunny or a stuffed toy?

Save your pet, you can buy another caco doll again

>> No.4486106

I've been playing a lot of Final Doomer lately. Hot damn the JPCP weapons are so much fun. That fucking sheath slash damage bonus is the coolest shit, especially with the chainsaw and berserk upgrade. As fun as demonsteele is, I think this is more appealing just for the iaito alone.

>> No.4486112
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4486112

>>4483647
I dug up the forum post he made (https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=56634&start=15)) for context until I saw this part and now I legitimately think Graf is just shitting on the wad as much as he can because it blocks out source ports. This is so fucking scummy and pathetic.

He's legitimately assmad that the wad is intended to be played on a specific engine through specific engine tricks and glitches and prevents you from playing it on anything that would fuck with it's intended vision. While that's debatable, where is his outrage over the numerous wads over the years that would bitch at you for not using the hardware renderer or lock you out of the wad (some would end the level for example, forget which ones but some of you might know some examples)?

I don't understand this guy but holy fuck he's mad. I'm glad not everyone on the Zdoom forums is a cockmongler.

>> No.4486116

>>4486112
None of the moderators or other developers like him.

But again, despite his great personal flaws I don't think his vast contributions to the engine should be discounted.

>> No.4486123

>>4486116
Yeah some of the mods are cool. I talk to Weasel sometimes and he's a cool dude. I'm not saying his work should be discounted. I just think he's a huge fag.

>> No.4486126

>>4486116
True, but I can still be mad at him for his personality.

>> No.4486131

>>4486126
Oh, I absolutely agree. Being deliberately insulting to a member of the modding community is completely unacceptable.

>>4486123
I like WW too. He's an excellent moderator.

>> No.4486139

>>4486116
there's plenty to be said for appreciating the art and ignoring the artist

but i think, even with that, graf is actively sabotaging the community

>> No.4486140

Does anyone else here dislike Quake 2 and prefer Quake 1 more? Every time I play Quake 2 it just feels like they're jacking off their tech instead of making interesting levels or encounters.

>> No.4486142

>>4486139
Oh come on now, don't be ridiculous. He's not sabotaging the community by being a retard. If anyone could be accused of that, it'd be Sgt Mark or Doomguy2000 and neither of them have really done anything big beyond make total fools of themselves online. Doomguy2000 especially. Guy's a fucking clown.

>> No.4486146

>>4486140
I'm a bit the opposite, I kind of prefer 2 because it's actually a finished game, while 1 is kind of rushed out and clearly unfinished.

I like both though. Also, all of Id's games were tech demos, really.

>> No.4486148

>>4486140
For different reasons, I just like the overall mood and Lovecraft / Medieval stuff in Quake 1 so much more, It's why I'd prefer a remake of it over Quake Champions any day.

>> No.4486149

>>4486131
I don't understand why WW gets so much flak. I've been in /v/ threads where people will shit on him constantly over some stupid shit from 3 years ago. Has he been in any controversy?

>> No.4486153

>>4486148
Also a Quake 1 remake should significantly improve the melee combat, in line with the original ideas behind the game.

>> No.4486152

>>4486148
I'd absolutely agree on this, a remake of original Quake would be fantastic, I'd love those gothic horror environments in modern shiny graphics, and it'd be exciting to see it as a fully realized game, rather than the developmental mess that Quake really was.

>>4486149
>/v/
Found your problem, the place is full of dipshits, it's probably some kid who holds a beef over something that's actually fucking stupid and just got some guys to bandwagon with him.

>> No.4486154

>>4485965
>So... I'm playing through Plutonia 2 and the idea behind Map32 really grabbed me.
>That is basically a remix/reimagining of the most iconic areas of the stock Doom levels with some added extra twists.
That's also true of the original Plutonia map too.

>> No.4486156 [DELETED] 

>>4486149
He's a complete hypocrite who has a history of inconsistent moderation and tone policing. Idgaf about that when it comes to him as a person, but he shouldn't be moderator.

>> No.4486157

>>4486140
Yeah, yeah, we get it already.

>> No.4486161

>>4486112
>(some would end the level for example, forget which ones but some of you might know some examples)?
Pirate Doom.

>> No.4486162

>>4486156
Can you post that history or prove it then? Otherwise it's an empty accusation and anecdotal. I'm leaning towards what >>4486152 says since that's the majority of the complaints against him but I wanna give you the benefit of the doubt here.

>> No.4486165

>>4486140
>>4486156
we get it, you're butthurt

>> No.4486169

>>4486149
people got banned/warned by him and get angry over it, i assume

nobody likes being told what they're doing is wrong

>> No.4486170

Hi, couple questions:
Is doomrla being worked on at all any more?
Is legendoom (not legendoom lite) compatible with doomrla?
Are there any good level generators besides oblige?

>> No.4486172

>>4486170
no to all

generally, two separate gameplay mods will never work well together

>> No.4486173

>>4486165
>>4486157
What are you talking about? I'm just sharing my opinion. I feel like Quake 2's tech blows Quake 1 out of the universe but Quake 1's level design is more fun and interesting.

>> No.4486176

>>4486170
1. Yes, it is getting a fairly heavy update soon.
2. I think?
3. Not really.

>> No.4486178

>>4486165
>>4486157

It's not really that shocking an opinion, guys.
Lots of people think Doom 1 > Doom 2, lots of people think Quake 1 > Quake 2.

>> No.4486180

>>4486176
Really? When? What's being updated?

>>4486172
Is there anything that's compatible with doomrla then

>> No.4486182

>>4486180
It's a bit much to list, this is a gameplay video of the current version being developed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNk0GZYWHM

The new HUD and PDA system look amazing.

>> No.4486183 [DELETED] 

>>4486162
Look at Sgt mark 4's history, or hell any large modder. Than go find what someone like JimpArgo- oh wait right they wipe banned post history now so you can't do that.
>treating this like a formal debate
If you weren't new you'd remember every time WW got shit on here for being a bad moderator back in 2014 and 2015. Besides, this is offtopic anyway.

>> No.4486186

>>4486183
so you have no sources, got it

>> No.4486189 [DELETED] 

>>4486186
Fuck off and find them yourself crossboarder.

>> No.4486191

>>4483652
Reason lilith.pk3 won a Cacoward and Generic Tech Base Overrun with Demons #81726423 didn't is because the game's been around for almost 25 fucking years now, and everyone who's still playing has seen it all already. Something different needs to win once in awhile.

>t. faggot that's been playing this shit for too long

>> No.4486193

>>4486189
nah, if you can't defend your own bullshit claims that i have no reason to humor you

>> No.4486195

>>4486189
>WildWeasel's a hypocrite!
>How so?
>Fuck off look for it yourself!
Nah bro
Nah

>> No.4486197

>>4486183
>Sgt Mark's history
You mean the guy who has a history of racist jokes, telling someone to kill themselves, and fucking holocaust jokes? Yeah I wonder why he's banned.

>> No.4486201

What does /vr/ think of freedoom?

>> No.4486203
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4486203

So anyway, a while back I did a sky for a dude who needed a sky texture for a Jovian moon (Ganymede, was the one). I threw one together from Duke Nukem 3D resources and a stock photo. I never tested it at the time, but testing it recently I saw that it was covered in faint black splotches (apparently the black used is a very faint almost black), and this is extremely visible when applied.

I cleaned it up so it shouldn't be visible anymore and the texture should look ok now. If he's here he should use it instead of the previous one posted. If anyone else wants to use it, go ahead.

>> No.4486204 [DELETED] 

>>4486193
>>4486195
Would you cunts stop dramaposting? Nobody gives a shit about your faggy little community here. Stop bringing outside issues on with you, forumfags are the cancer of this site.

>> No.4486205 [DELETED] 

>>4486204
>wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee backpedalling is fun!!!!

>> No.4486206
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>>4486201
I fucking LOVE freedoom
Been playing it for fucking years now. I like it more than the original Doom 2. Tied with Doom 1 for me. 0.6 and 0.8 are the best versions.

>> No.4486207 [DELETED] 

>>4486204
>forumfags
>where_do_you_think_you_are.jpg

>> No.4486209 [DELETED] 

>>4486205
>everyone who isn't me is one person

>> No.4486212

>>4486201

An extreme mixed pot, which is unfortunately to be expected from a community-driven TC.

>> No.4486213 [DELETED] 

>>4486209
>WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BACKPEDALLING IS FUN!!!!!

>> No.4486214

>>4486178
Exactly. If anything it gets tiresome, especially when a lot of the comments are from annoyingly elitist lovecraftfags.

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4486215

he acknowledges it as off-topic and yet is intent on discussing it anyway.

it's obvious what he's trying to do. don't humor him.

>> No.4486216 [DELETED] 

>>4486207
Right I forgot this is ZDF/DW's chan colony.

>> No.4486217 [DELETED] 

>>4486213
Okay I'm the guy who asked about what made WW so bad and even I think you're a faggot. Stop shitting up the fucking thread.

>> No.4486221
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>>4486215
>post butts

you're the boss

>> No.4486223

>>4486203
Looks pretty.

>> No.4486226

>>4483491


http://www.moddb.com/groups/2017-mod-of-the-year-awards/features/players-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

The mod that must not be named won the Moddb players choice award.

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>>4486215
>>4486221

>> No.4486231

>>4486212
This is why I prefer the older versions a lot more, because they had a smaller group (or even one guy I think) who kept a consistent mapping style and art direction for the maps. It felt like an actual TC and that was pretty damn satisfying to play. Freedoom 1 doesn't have that at all and basically never has. Sure it's fun, but the levels feel more like Quake where you jump between aesthetics with every intermission screen.

The music is pretty good now at least, way better than whatever that filler garbage they made when they found someone had plagiarized half the tracks in the game.

>> No.4486235

>>4486206
>FreeDoom 64
Was that ever a thing?

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>>4486229
I'd hit that
with my fist

>> No.4486238

>>4486235
Oh no, that's just my naming scheme that comes from devices like PSPs and DSs having shitfits over multiple .'s in filenames. The actual file is Freedoom 2 0.6.4.

>> No.4486239 [DELETED] 

>>4486226
>http://www.moddb.com/groups/2017-mod-of-the-year-awards/features/players-choice-mod-of-the-year-2017

Fucking paid. Don't even question it. This is a paid win. Literal shit. Worst fucking wad ever. Kill mark and make him choke on shit.

>> No.4486240

>>4486229
inb4 "hurr im gonna post hdoom screenshots xd!!1"

>> No.4486243 [DELETED] 

>>4486186
>>4486193
>>4486195
Wow good job deleting all the offtopic posts supporting exactly one side Mr janitor. If you're going to ban dramaposting at least pretend to ban it evenly so we don't know you're one of the group of ultrafags who runs the "Doom community"
This place is a fucking joke.

>> No.4486246

>>4486226
I unironically blame normies and /v/.
Oh well. At least Morrowind Rebith is also on the list.

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4486247

>>4486240
Are you feeling okay, anon? Did someone mistreat you?

>> No.4486248

>>4486246
/v/ hates BD because it's too popular though, just like /doom/.

>> No.4486250

>>4486223
The compliments goes to 1990's 3DRealms.

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>>4486239
>implying you could stand a chance against this Brazilian Adonis

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4486256

Best thing about Freedoom's older versions right here. Map 32 has a secret, inaccessible part of the map that can only be found through noclip, and it's a rundown, flooded version of Map 01

Fuckin love this wad.

>> No.4486258

>>4486254
He looks like Doomguy2000 if Doomguy2000 wasn't a slimmer version of Chris Chan

>> No.4486260 [DELETED] 

and there's confirmation he wasn't posting in good faith, as if it wasn't obvious.

>> No.4486264 [DELETED] 

>>4486260
Guess what fag? Every time you make passive aggressive little shitposts like this it shit's up the thread even more. Fuck off.

>> No.4486267
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4486267

the water area of the map that can be seen by the small driveway area on the left and making a house on the right on the cliff island.

>> No.4486268

>>4486226
I said it back when the multiplayer mod for Euro Truck Simulator won it and I'll say it again - players' choice was a mistake.

>> No.4486270

>>4486239
i don't like brutal doom either, but you're a dumbass

>> No.4486274

>>4486256
I think that area was intended for deathmatch.

>> No.4486275

>>4486247
Nah I just thought that would be an obvious post/meme sort of thing, not that HDoom's bad ofc.
>>4486254
He honestly looks like a JoJo character. What would his stand be boys?

>> No.4486279

>>4486256
It's a shame that they removed these maps in the newer versions. I liked them.

>> No.4486285

>>4486256
And I forgot to mention that they replaced most of the weapon/item sprites.

>> No.4486290

>>4486112
the explanation is very simple, he is hell-bent on the idea of the latest version of gzdoom being all that anyone needs to play doom. so if a wad doesn't work right in gzdoom, he's under some self-imposed geas to make it work, unless he can find some justification to get himself out of it.

such a justification can be for example if the wad in question is too obscure, like some 1994 shovelware thing that nobody's ever heard of, or if the wad is something like a giant slaughter map, which he personally considers unplayable garbage (this is why it doesn't bother him that nuts.wad is a slideshow in gzdoom, he thinks nuts.wad is a garbage jokewad).

but as i say he absolutely needs all the sufficiently popular well-known doom maps and mods to work in gzdoom, so that nobody ever needs to use anything else, and all other engines die off.

so if something comes along that is utterly broken in latest gzdoom with no hope of recovery, his only course of action is to try to have it buried. this has so far been successful, there have been broken mods but they don't meet a sufficient threshold of popularity to oppose his vision. he knows full well he'll never be able to support it, but that won't matter if 99% of doom players don't care about it or haven't even heard of it.

unfortunately however, lilith shot to popularity, and eventually was given a cacoward, ensuring its place on best-of lists for the next 5 or 10 years, so there's simply no way he can justifiably ignore it. people will constantly come along, look through the best-of lists, and find things that his engine can't deal with, making them look elsewhere.

being driven by this compulsion to be the proprietor of the single "one-stop shop" for the whole of classic doom, lilith's popularity leaves him in an impossible situation, with the resulting observed emotional breakdown.

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Actually works well enough in terms of size and scale, I think I could draw the mounted bayonet on it and not worry too much about it clipping or standing out.

Only have the loaded clips left to do.

>> No.4486294

>>4486290
>he is hell-bent on the idea of the latest version of gzdoom being all that anyone needs to play doom.

He already fucked up with that, I have three different versions of GZDoom just for all the different mods, including Guncaster needing 2.2.0 due to the gold bug with the shop system.

I use 2.2.0, 2.4.0, and 3.2.4.

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>> No.4486297

>>4486290
>(this is why it doesn't bother him that nuts.wad is a slideshow in gzdoom, he thinks nuts.wad is a garbage jokewad).
I don't think that's an unfair take, really. It's just a huge square room with all of the monsters. Well, two square rooms.

As for slaughter maps in general, like real and intentionally playable ones, giving him the benefit of the doubt, he *probably* wouldn't mind making them more playable if he easily could, but there's ways the engine is structured that just isn't going to make this easy.
Having lots of monsters do lots of checks over lots of linedefs a lot of the time, is just going to be taxing for ZDoom/GZDoom, simply by how it functions, you'd really need to do some pretty substantial changes to get around this as I'm understanding.

>> No.4486303

>>4486029
Daisy was a retcon
Hissy is real

>> No.4486304
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>> No.4486307

>>4486294
Same here. I use an older GZdoom version just to play DoomRPG and RLArsenal. Get fucked Graf.

>> No.4486314

>>4484985

those games can't be modded

>> No.4486317

>>4486303
>Daisy was a retcon
i also picked hissy for this reason. didn't think anyone else agreed with me.

>> No.4486326

>>4485327
It's fucking great.

>> No.4486332

>>4486314
>>4484985
>those games can't be modded
>dead on arrival
>doom launched 24 years earlier
>still going due to mods
Really makes you think. Wish more people put the blame on 2K's shoulders where it belonged, though. TRS literally dindu nuffin.

>> No.4486361

>>4486294
In fact, I'll make a list of shit I have that doesn't work or throws up errors for one reason or another in 3.2.4 stable.

Aracnocide
Combined Arms
Demonsteele
Doom 4 Doom with the High Frequency addon
Doom Rouge-like Arsenal
Guncaster
Johnny Doom
Legendoom
Lizard Squad
Project Brutality Mutators ( would throw up errors anyway because Brutal Doom )
Project MSX
Psychic

>> No.4486375

>>4485739

That's what you get for using such abomination as inspiration.

Also you should re-name it "Thy Files Consumed" as a reminder.

>> No.4486390

>>4486303
>Daisy was a retcon

*cue the homophobic slurs*

>> No.4486392

>>4486390
just say faggot, dude

>> No.4486401

>>4486392

I mean, I'm not getting angry at people having fun with Doom lore, so why should I say that?

>> No.4486403

>>4486401
>I'm not getting angry
Says the angry double faggot

>> No.4486404

>>4486401
i mean, i can call you a faggot without being angry
if anything, it's more a term of endearment (oldfag, drawfag, etc)

it doesn't really mean anything unless you assign anything to it

>> No.4486405

Ever notice how shitposting here has risen exponentially since Lud started cracking down on ZDiscord's shitposting? I wonder why that is...

>> No.4486415

>>4486404

Individually, we are like brittle twigs.
But together, we form a mighty and powerful faggot.

>> No.4486416

who is Lud

>> No.4486417

>>4486361
>Combined Arms
I just got that, like a while ago
What's the issue with it and GZDoom?

>> No.4486418

>>4486405

I don't know dude, I just came here because doom_txt reposted the baron of full moon edits. I have no business with any Discord channels.

I was also going to ask if there's something you guys would like to see next year from id software, 2018 being the year of the 25th anniversary and all.

I would be okay with another eight-level WAD from id software

>> No.4486419

>>4486148
The champions gimmick doesn't even matter when Anarki can't stop being OP

>> No.4486421
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4486421

After taking a long break i went back to working on my little almost-but-not-quite joke wad and i was wondering...

Are there any maps that have working arcade machines?
How hard would it be for someone with basic ACS and DECORATE knowledge to make one?

>> No.4486424

>>4486405
as long as 8ch is around to contain the supercancerous dramacore fringe, we can deal with some shitposting addicts who come here

>> No.4486426

>>4486418
welcome to the board then

i'd like to see a full mapset from id, like how there was a full episode released for quake
but i doubt that'll happen

>> No.4486428

>>4486421
Kinsie, is that you?
What happened to the consolation prize or MetaDoom's codex?

>> No.4486429

>>4486332
They shouldn't blame the idea that consoles will be disadvantaged when they already have worse controls and Bethesda got mods on consoles anyway

>> No.4486430

>>4486417
I have to take that one back, double checked and nothing is wrong with it, though Colorful hell always throws up errors, but that just seems like part of the mod, like how brutal doom always does that.

>> No.4486431

>>4486418
They didn't do anything for the 20th. Bethesda likes to make people forget that old Doom exists.

>> No.4486434

>>4486428
Kinsie...
I'm sorry anon but you're wrong.
I'm nowhere close his level.

>> No.4486441

>>4486421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ra2PAdIPBE

ACS Arcade was a thing.

>> No.4486443 [DELETED] 

>>4486405
Because frankly these threads need a "nobody use outside usernames" rule to prevent crossboarder from nonstop shitposting and baiting. It's incredibly obvious that the amount of them has risen lately just by the post tone and content. What makes 4chan good is that it's a refuge away from typical forum bullshit, not a place where forum posters can come to post about that that'd get them banned at home.

>> No.4486452 [DELETED] 

>>4486405
>Namedropping

You're part of the problem.

By the way, you should go the fuck back to your home website.

>> No.4486460

>>4486441
Oh, and this insanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af5UUpqzO9A

>> No.4486492

How different would people see the lost soul if it still had the ranged hitscan attack from the early builds?

>> No.4486495

>>4486492
tier above chaingunner for annoyance
>smaller hitbox
>30 more hp
>can be literally anywhere in open space

>> No.4486498

>>4486495
>Pain elemental now spawns a shitton of hitscanners.

Kill me, Pete...

>> No.4486501

>>4486421
how do i get this screen effect?

>> No.4486503

>>4486492
>lost soul
>ranged hitscan attack

So, it'd basically be like the progeny of Heretic's gargoyle fucking a chaingunner?

mmmyeah, fuck that

>> No.4486506

>>4486501
I'm just using bloom and SSAO from GZDoom, though i had to modify them through console commands to make the effect more subtle and more "spread out" (from lack of a better word).
Oh - and i have saturation and contrast a bit higher than normal.

>> No.4486507

>>4486498
Stop giving ideas to submitters of content to the R667 Bestiary.

>> No.4486508
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4486508

If the Pinkies and Barons had the same back, does that mean Pinkies were th closest thing to headless/face-onchest people in hell?

>> No.4486516

>>4486508
Is that the gnaar from Serious Sam?

>> No.4486518

>>4486516
Too many eyes for that.

>> No.4486527

>>4486508
This kind of reminds of how Doom rpg had enemies named after mythological creatures, but look nothing like them, since they were just colored classes for a species of demons.
Cerberes is a red hellhound, instead of a three headed dog, for example.
It also makes me wonder whether or not those species and creaters could exist in Doom's hell, since Doom not only had different art directions for hell in certain games, but some may or may not have been a mix fo stuff (specially the one for the classic games).

>> No.4486548

>>4486404
Bingo. This anon gets it.

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>> No.4486559 [DELETED] 

you can't possibly be this obvious, dude

>> No.4486563

>>4486556
>people getting assmad over moddb
Fucking why bother? They're already known shitters. They let people other than mod authors post mods there, and when said authors request they be taken down, ModDB staff's reply is "Hey suck it, you should be grateful we're giving your mod attention, even if it's an outdated version that has bugs you've already fixed. If we take it down, it'd be one less page we can run ads on."

>> No.4486568

>>4486563
Just upload your own version too.

>> No.4486569 [DELETED] 

don't encourage him

>> No.4486572

>>4486556
hmmm
i wonder why he only just now decided to check the forum
ignoring the response calling out how unreasonable that was, too

i would bet money mark's the one that made that post

>> No.4486578

>>4486563
>They let people other than mod authors post mods there

Speaking of this, here's some free advice; if any of you make stuff that gets posted to ZDF, and a member called UnTrustable contacts you asking for a redownload, don't. He has an account at ModDB (same name and SOTN Alucard avatar) and he is the guy, or at least one of the guys, reuploading other people's mods on ModDB.

>> No.4486580

>>4486572

Not even betting, l m a o.

>> No.4486587

>>4486556
for a guy who claims to not care about the doom general, he sure has to bring to attention the whole of one post that mentions anything against him
meanwhile we have this https://pardonemeplz.tumblr.com/ bundle of autism and nobody involved gives a shit

>> No.4486593

>>4486587
>for a guy who claims to not care about the doom general, he sure has to bring to attention the whole of one post that mentions anything against him
This is the thing that gets me. Let's assume that he didn't actually make that post (which I honestly doubt), holy shit out of an entire topic of indifference you got so offended by exactly one single post that shat on you? How fucking thin is your skin, mate?

>> No.4486606

>>4486593
>out of an entire topic of indifferences
>offended by exactly one single post

And this, from a guy that thinks he exudes dudebro alpha machismo from his pores, and treats bans for telling people to kys like it's a mark of honor, and is all about the political incorrectness and 'the bantz'.

...Really makes you think.

>> No.4486624

>>4486503
>Chaingunners with Jetpacks
Whatever happened to Oom?

>> No.4486634

>>4486624

It fell flat after three days, like all attempts at forced memes.

>> No.4486649

>>4486634
>Oom
>Forced Meme

>> No.4486654

>>4486649
yes, oom was the textbook definition of a forced meme

>> No.4486667

>>4486654
addressing it as a meme at all instead of the simple joke it was seems kinda counterintuitive.

>> No.4486675

>>4486634
i dunno, certain terms i won't repeat here are still bandied around on this very website constantly.

>> No.4486689

>>4485912
Wait, why? I thought GZ had almost all the same features by now...

>> No.4486703

>>4486675
We've been calling them forced memes for a decade, lurk moar.

>> No.4486705

>>4486703
That's not what I was talking about, cumstain.

>> No.4486709

>>4486705
You still need to lurk moar double nigger.

>> No.4486746

>>4486703
>>4486705
>>4486709
Don't ever change 4chan, don't ever change. <3

>> No.4486758

>>4486746
you too, faggot, love all of you

>> No.4486760

Am I a bad person for actually enjoying listening you guys argue about stuff? I'm not sick of Brutal Dood just because I enjoy the discussion it creates.

>> No.4486779

>>4486760
Fuck off mork.

>> No.4486781

>>4486760
discussion is fun

>> No.4486874

>>4486587
term how do you manage to attract this much autism
i know of that one dude on 8ch who never actually said what his problem was, but this is even worse

>> No.4486887

>>4486874
Could be the Brutal Doom countermeasures in his mods.

>> No.4486889

>>4486887
What counter measures?

>> No.4486893

>>4486874

Some people will get angry over anything.

>> No.4486895
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>>4486887
Likely.

>> No.4486898

>>4486887
>>4486895

If so, then frankly, it just gives me reason to keep on doing it.

>> No.4486902
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4486902

>>4486895
>Shit or Shit

>> No.4486905

>>4486889
https://youtu.be/txcpbEpXIl0

>> No.4486907

>>4486889
If you load Brutal Doom with his mods, there'll usually be some comedic, over the top effect he coded in.
Partly because Brutal Doom, even monsters only, breaks with his mods, so if he makes some crazy thing happen, and he gets a "bug report" with that crazy effect, he knows the problem instantly and can tell them what they're doing wrong.
It's also partly just for fun.

>> No.4486909

>>4486587
OBSESSED

>> No.4486921

>>4486895
>SemonSteele

fucking sides/10

>> No.4486925
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4486925

>>4486895
>>4486887
I stand corrected

>> No.4486926

>>4486874
Spoilered community bullshit
The guy said exactly what his problem was, apparently he did some work for Term and thought he got fucked over by insufficient crediting, and felt that Term didn't deserve his fame because he didn't really make the majority of his earlier mods. Then he lost his damned mind and shitposted the thread to death about it.

Anyways can we stop talking about drama now? Fuck's sake there must be a new map or mod out. How's JoM5 going?

>> No.4486935

>>4486921
>>4486925
>compooper
This keeps getting better and better holy shit

>> No.4486937

>>4486926
>apparently he did some work for Term and thought he got fucked over by insufficient crediting
which is weird because term is practically the biggest autist about giving everyone and everything credits

sorry, i just find everything quite fascinating
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58875

so this steampunk mod seems interesting but god damn are the guns underwhelming

>> No.4486941

Okay, let's turn this anger and petty drama into something constructive. What could be done to brutal doom to make it good. No memes, no shitposts. What would you change?

>> No.4486951

>>4486937
>that goresplosion in the video
What in the fuck, man that's almost like some kind of brutal doom parody shit.
>>4486941
Add Babeldev's pure gameplay mechanic autism (and that fear system) and cut the arsenal down to vanilla-size or smaller. Make taunting at appropriate times be a sort of punctuation to badass moves and spoop monsters.

>> No.4486952
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>>4486935
"Sir autismo" is another one of pardonemeplz's insults.

>> No.4486957

>>4486941

Cut waaaaaaaaaay down on the bloat.
Cut all the extra features, the mapscript, the needless classes, grenades and extra weapons, the cruelty bonuses, pickuppable environmental objects, making enemies more aggressive, everything. Even the fatalities.
Focus 100% on retaining the gore system and the enhanced weapon feedback. Better sounds, hitsparks, animations, blowing enemies apart limb by limb.
Take note of what's GOOD of Brutal Doom and what's enjoyable, stick entirely to that. Take a hacksaw to everything else.

>> No.4486958

>>4486951
Interesting, when you reference babeldev's pure gameplay mechanic autism, what exactly are you referring to. I'm stupid.

>> No.4486961

>>4486957
So a bit more like version 19 with the new gore effects? I might make something like that at some point.

>> No.4486962

>>4486952
This is a fuckin' goldmine

>> No.4486968

Side note, is it possible for brutal doom's ground splatters not to hang over the edges of steps and stuff. That always bothered me, is there any way to make it work like how the wall blood does?

>> No.4486969

>>4486958
Having played the mod now, what I mean is that his attention to detail is really really good. Pretty much every weapon feels good to use and has a good situation to use it in. The other systems and moves he added work very well with the existing gameplay and don't tend to break anything too badly (Barons in tight spaces being the exception I noted in my other post). Hell, just the faster weapon swap combined with the ability to delay the reload of shotgun shells opens up a lot more flexibility on how those weapons are used. I'm also fairly sure that gib enemies scares the others more too, rewarding overkills so they're not such a resource waste.

Brutal Doom could really benefit from somebody who has a good knowledge of balancing and minute gameplay tuning like that.

>> No.4486990

>>4486962
How long has this been going for? This is hilarious

>> No.4486991

>>4486990
https://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/163586208552/yo-mike-the-kike-the-12-jew-wanna-fuck-with-a/
since june, apparently

>> No.4486995

>>4486991
holy shit this guy is dedicated

>> No.4487000

>>4486991
I don't have a Tumblr account and have to deal with safe mode. What does it say?

>> No.4487001

>>4487000
>YO FAGGIT, IT'S ME PARDO AGAIN! AND TODAY I'M GONNA TELL YOU YOUR ART SUCKS AND H-DOOM IS TOTAL FAILURE, BUT I'LL BE HONEST IN 3. @, 1/ FUCKING SHIT. HEHA UR A FAGGOT, WHERE YOU WERE RAISED, IN A BARN? OH WAIT, IN THE MOST SHITTY COUNTRY ARGENTINA! Go SUCK AN HAITIAN'S COCK OR SOMETHING! WOW WOW WOW! WHAT KIND OF WEED UR SOEMINGK? NEMTHETHAMINE? WOW, FUCK OFF BITCH, NO ONE LIEKS U! JUST FUCKING STOP MAKING THIS SHIT YOU CALL A DOOM "WAD"! JUST DELETE YOUR MONSTER GIRL QUEST 3D! YOU'RE NOTHING!
nothing interesting, but it's dated june so he's been an autistic baby for at least six months

>> No.4487004

>>4486941
Fuck Yourself!

>> No.4487005

>>4487001
Mike's an Argentinian?

>> No.4487006

>>4487005
not last i checked

>> No.4487015

>>4486937
IIRCit was done just as a showcase to the guy's sprites from the Spriting carnival.

>>4486951
The gore is just Ketchup on default settings.


>>4486961
Make sure to base it all on "monster only" addon that can be used with gameplay mods.
Alsowould be great if integration could be achieved by applying basicdamagetypes to weapons.

>> No.4487017

>>4487015
>Ketchup on default settings
Man I don't remember it looking that extreme, maybe I'm just nuts.

>> No.4487024

>one negative post
>Mark has to cry about it on Twitter and call people butthurt
>an entire blog (with sockpuppets liking every post) dedicated to shitting on Term and Kurashiki and Mike
>MEH, WHATEVER
it consistently amazes me just how fragile the guy's ego is

>> No.4487025

>>4486968
Last I checked the bd ground splatters were just flat 3d models. There's no engine support for actual decals on floors and ceilings.

>> No.4487060

>>4486029
What map is this?

>> No.4487063

>>4487060
Brutal Doom

>> No.4487082

>>4487060
The Revenant Problem.

>> No.4487152

>>4486303
>>4486317
>>4486390
>Daisy is a retcon
I just sometimes lurk here. What's this about Daisy being a retcon?

>> No.4487167

>>4487152

The short of the matter is that Episode 4 was done after the fact and released later, and the ending blurb about it being revenge for Daisy was inserted after the fact.
So it is definitely a retcon. It's still canon, though, and beyond that is even core canon rather than expanded universe canon.

>> No.4487170

Hey guys, what are the best settings for Brittle Doom?

>> No.4487179

>>4487170
The one that makes you walk carefully

>> No.4487182

>>4487179
Wait, I meant A Bortion Doom.

>> No.4487185

>>4487182

Don't play Rootpain, dude.

>> No.4487190
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4487190

Just finished Plutonia.

One thing the levelset suffers from is occasional "what did this switch just do" itis.

>> No.4487214

There's something... spiritual about spending an hour making the best looking sector toilet.
And then making a big SLIME01 log in it.

What maps have the highest amount of small and pointless sectors like that?
I'm talking everything - toilets, showers, computers, coffee mugs and so on.

>> No.4487219

>>4487214
sector toilets are unironically one of my favorite things in doom mapping
if i wasn't loaded with shit to do already, i'd make an archive of them

>> No.4487230

>>4483779
Love this screenshot, is it from a WIP?

>> No.4487236

>>4487230
Yes, it was supposed to be a reasonably sized mostly-joke-map slash "how many map hacks and ridiculous entity chains can I stuff in one map?" released in time for Christmas, then in time for New Year's, and now it's looking to be "fuck it, whenever."

>> No.4487238

>>4486957
Keep the grenades, weapons, and enemy aggression, ditch the taunting because it makes no damn sense considering everything shown of Doomguy outside of that unused voice in PS2 Quake 3 is that he does his job silently.

Even the comic doesn't fit with that, he came off as just insane there, not swearing like a sailor.

>> No.4487243

>>4487236
I really like the look of it so far, if at least for all the pixellated NIN albums.

>> No.4487245

>>4487238
Alternatively just update Johnny Doom, thing lags like hell for me after you kill a certain amount of monsters, much faster than even other brutal doom variants, but next to Project Brutality mutators it's the best variant.

>> No.4487247
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4487247

Any zscripters here? I want to figure out how to perform actions only when a key is released or held with one of those input event handler things.

>> No.4487248

>>4487243
Visual puns are the best puns. In that screenshot alone, I tried to stuff in multiple puns on the store name and slogan, the albums/EPs shown are the ones that had been released by the time Quake dropped, the whole visual (other than the spotlights) is just a direct rip of dm2, and the angled orange box on the counter is a placeholder for a C64.

For reference: NIN album covers do NOT translate well to Quake's palette. Most things don't, actually. I can see why people say not to try to make realistic looking things.

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4487250

>>4486957
>>4487238
I agree a lot with these, though I kind of want to have hand grenades because I just really love hand grenades.
I mean, assuming the grenades in Brutal are good. Do they bounce well and shower the area with bouncing shrapnel?

Sound design is my greatest beef by far though, Jesus, Brutal Doom has *atrocious* sound. Another is sort of the gore, I don't mind it being exaggerated, but I preferred when it looked a bit closer to Nashgore and was more colorful and low res, it fit better. Shooting at dead bodies gotta fucking go though, that shit gets in the way of gameplay too much.

>> No.4487254
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4487254

Jesus christ how far up your own ass do you have to be?

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4487258

>>4487254
>or the anime-themes ones
oh boy, the gloves are off now.

>> No.4487262

>>4487254
>puts 8+ years into project
>still spinning his wheels with hardly any new changes other than the ones stolen from other mods
Mark if you're reading this, kindly please attempt to pull your head outta your ass and try to make something other than "brutal _____"

>> No.4487265

>>4487254
You know, I get the feeling there are plenty of people that actually like Brutal Doom, but wish Mark would just quit being such a goddamn jackass.

I'm one of them at least.

>> No.4487269

>>4487265
i dont mind throwing it on once in a while but only with other mods.
imo Blade of Agony deserves the #1 spot even if it has some lag problems

>> No.4487270

>>4487265
im the second one then

>> No.4487273

>>4487254
I said this before,I'llsay this again.
In the time Mark made his mod, then made a turd out of his mod, then continued polishing a turd, several people that didn't modprior to the release of BD managed to put out several feature-complete mods.

Mark, if you are reading this: feature bloat is NOT a good thing.

>>4487265
I find Brutal patches for Trailblazer and Guncaster to be more enjoyable than BD - over the top nature of both lends itself really well to ultraviolence theme. Also no fatality/bonuses/obnoxious sounds/over prolonged deaths etc.

>> No.4487274

>>4487248
I think they look pretty good all things considered, the album covers at least seem stylised and aren't really out of place (barring the colour scheme anyway).

>> No.4487287
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4487287

Does anyone still play this? I can't find any good servers for it.

>> No.4487301
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4487301

>>4487254
Mark, i know you still browse these generals, so i might as well point this out: most other modders at least bring up new ideas, concepts, features and more, while the best you can do is slap the word "BRUTAL" into something and call it a day.
If the best part of Doom modding is its potential to turn the game into anything else, then all these people take more advantage to that, than someone who has been accused of art theft, awful coding and being a huge cunt.
Don't be upset, when even your most rabid fanboys suddenly wake up and realize how much of a fraud you are.
>Fidger Spinner mod
But hey, at least we know that you have as much knowledge of Doom modding as the game journalists, who write about you.

>> No.4487306

>>4487254
Mark, please just make a Boom episode, it'll be great.

>> No.4487319

I miss when these threads didn't have drama and people wanting to do almost nothing but desire to talk about its shitty community members (eg: graf and mark) over and over and over and over.

>> No.4487320

>>4487306
He can't. Because he won't be able to put "jump to the other roof here" or "you can climb the wall of a castle" messages on screen (happens in his BD campaign) to make sure his average fan would be able to beat it.

>> No.4487325

>>4487319
There's still plenty of that, I think Gross Salz has just been a hot topic this Christmas, it'll blow over.

>> No.4487385

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Xc5DsvVRo

>> No.4487391

>>4487385
>not "Hell Knight sez ur a faget"
dropped

>> No.4487473

>>4487385
The animation in that is actually pretty good. Kind of impressed.

>> No.4487479

>>4487385
>walfas-tier comedy
Hey Doomguy, what's "sex"

>> No.4487484

>>4487254
>Tell me more about the great mods of the Doom community
ok

Doom RPG + RLArsenal
Final Doomer
Lithium
Project Horror
Project MSX
Samsara

Everything except maybe Samsara has a huge change to gameplay and mechanics for the game and makes it an overall deeper experience that isn't just "the enemies are faster and you can shoot their heads also there's gore"

Sgt Mark is literally no different than Doomguy2000 in the sense that he believes the longer he works on it, the better it actually is. Brutal Doom does nothing mechanically to justify how popular it is, it only got as popular as it did for being so shocking and ridiculous. He's incredibly egotistical about something that isn't all that impressive technologically.

I'd love to see what he thinks about Project Brutality. Wonder if he's written it off as some hack project piggy backing off his work despite stealing maps from Freedoom and KDIZDing them to add to his gay mapset.

>> No.4487491

>>4487254
well, he is not wrong and you know it.

>> No.4487521
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4487521

So I did a bayonet, patterned it after one I thought would be interesting.
The fittings (pommel, locking piece, hilt + muzzle ring) on these would probably be brass, but I figure since it's like in the late 21st century or something, they could be repros these ended up with somewhere along the way, they're already not quite genuine by being 7.62x51mm/.308, so it'd just be one more thing.
How's it look? I'm not sure it conveys how pointy the blade is, but the one I based it on doesn't look as pointy as all the others.

>>4487491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhXz60f0HLU

>> No.4487568

Just found this. Made me chuckle a little.
https://youtu.be/MiEYCXPI-qY

>> No.4487576

>>4487568
This community has an unhealthy fascination with boners.

>> No.4487582

>>4487568
yeah it's already in the news post.
thought the url looked familiar.

>> No.4487583

>>4487521
Looks good to me. For small-scale spriting like this, I think one row of pixels in a blade reaching at least one pixel further than the row below it sufficiently conveys that "this is a pointy bit for stabbing".

As an aside, I love Garands and M14s of any variety, so I can already hardly wait to try this out when it's finished.

>> No.4487592

>>4487491
i don't doubt it at all. the mod is of such labyrinthine complexity that even the smallest change/addition must require 80+ hours of bugfixing afterwards.

>> No.4487605

>>4487592
What's a good euphemism for shit like this anyway? Like I know spaghetti coding is a term, but there's gotta be a good comparison to it somewhere.

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>>4487583
Nice to hear, though it'll be taking a while.
As it is right now it uses twice the ammo of the assault rifle, but while doing high damage and penetrating enemies.
It can be fired fast, and reloads are pretty quick, quicker if you fire the last round and the gun ejects the clip for you.

I figure I might as well make the fittings brass (or some other metal which gets anodized to look brass-ish, or plated with brass), just for distinct visuals.
Only the loaded clip left.

>> No.4487745

if anyone who manages the Inmost Dens blog is here, can it have a search bar, to make it easier to browse for content?

>> No.4487749

Has QUMP released yet?

>> No.4487798

>>4486421
this looks bretty good

>> No.4487806

>>4487798
Thanks.
I'm trying to learn how to handle more complex architecture and how to add nice, chunky details without restricting your movement or just going overboard and tracing every single pixel on flats.

>> No.4487828 [DELETED] 

>>4487254
>>4483490
>>4483491
>Sgt. Dork sockpuppeting proxybots to get a MOTY
What a faggot.

>> No.4487839 [DELETED] 

>>4487828
You KNOW we can report his mod for stolen content, right?

>> No.4487841

>>4487839
>implying they'll care

>> No.4487853

>>4487839
they'd rather ban all users who'd report him then actually remove the mod which will never leave the most popular mod section of moddb

>> No.4487871

>>4487828
>>4487254
S'Arais and Sgt. Mork engage in bitchfight of the century! Who will win, ladies and gents?

>> No.4487914

can anyone explain to me what The Division Sigil from lithium does? I picked it up and didn't notice any change.

>> No.4487937

>>4487914
Might be a requirement for an upgrade or some shit. I dunno.

>> No.4487978

>>4487828
i'm not putting that in the newspost

>> No.4487984
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>>4487978
That sounds like a wise decision.

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>>4487871
Graf Zahl parachutes into the ring, depositing condiment everywhere

>> No.4488005

>>4487265
i find brutal doom quite fun to play
but holy shit mark is insufferable

>> No.4488007

>>4487319
>I miss when these threads didn't have drama
so, never?
even in the earliest inceptions, there was always drama over something or another.

>> No.4488014

>>4487745

I'll see what I can do.

>> No.4488023

>>4487605
If a jumbled mess of code is spaghetti code, what is well organized and neat code?

Lasagna code?

>> No.4488029

>>4488023
You are a genius.

>> No.4488030

>>4488023
Nice.

>> No.4488046

>>4488023
Lasagna Code is an actual phrase that dates back to the 80's.

>> No.4488054

>>4488046
Well shit, I thought I was being smart.

>> No.4488071

>>4488054
Also, 1 to 10, how well does ZBloody Hell replicate Blood?

>> No.4488072

>>4488003
Ladies and gentlemen, SArais comes in with a left-hook of a map he spent entirely too much time on trying to please people!

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>>4488071
3 - it kinda looks like it until you actually start playing it
still better than regular ZBlood but not by much.
Play BloodGDX instead.

Also here's 3 hissies 1 cybie

>> No.4488081

>>4487749
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/qump.html
yep

>> No.4488113

>>4483491
La Tailor Girl 1.2 is out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1033276#p1033276

>> No.4488115

>>4488113
Is the nurse suit still horribly overpowered?

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4488123

LOL

>> No.4488127

>>4488071
Ok, so I have BloodGDX, now how do I make the mouselook not feel like ass?

>> No.4488130

>>4488127
meant as response to
>>4488075

>> No.4488150
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4488150

Are there any hud mods that are simplistic like the full screen gzdoom HUD but still keep doomguy's face?

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>>4488150
NCHud is pretty good, and can be made to work with a lot of mods (there's also compatibility patches).

>> No.4488171

>playing level
>lost
>silently pissed at the author for not being clear on directions, we're not playing Myst here
>still lost
>find a door!
>it's a secret

Just fuck my shit up.

>> No.4488173

>>4488171
what was the map
or is this another made up green text story

>> No.4488178

>>4488171

I find if I'm lost I can go to look at playthroughs of the mapset online on YouTube.

>> No.4488181

>>4488173
lots of maps, many such cases

>> No.4488186

>>4488115
maybe
maybe not

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4488191

>>4488127

Not the one you're trying to quote, but you have to mess with the X and Y axis sensitivity. I don't know how to take a screen shot of the game, but here is my config file. It feels smooth as fuck.

>> No.4488201

>>4488181

Then look up lots of playthroughs on YouTube.

>> No.4488203

If a mod introduces a lot of weapons sharing the same slots, wouldn't it be a good idea, if all the vanilla weapons or the ones that don't bring huge changes to the gameplay always showed up first in said slots, before weapons that are meant to be different?
Because MetaDoom and D4T are guilty of this.

>> No.4488206

>>4488203
I don't understand the question, sorry.

>> No.4488215

>>4483491
Hunter's Moon Version 2.9.4 Released:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30942

>> No.4488227
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4488227

That's the rifle and the clip done then. Now I have to make the bayonet attack not feel unsatisfying.

>> No.4488228

>>4488203
D4T emulates doom 4 down to the gun roster
not sure how that would fit your example if none of the guns are the equivalent of 'vanilla'

>> No.4488231

>>4488206
When a mod has too many guns in the same slot (as in the number keys), you'd have to press a number more than once just to use a different gun.
MetaDoom has altered versions of the classic Doom arsenal, then new weapons based off other games, which work differently.
To keep up the core gameplay, most of these weapons representing said classic arsenal show up first, because they're integral to how Doom plays, while the rest is usually additions to make the game play differently.
This isn't the case with both the BFG and the chainsaw, because they show up after the other weapons in their slots, which are the Soul cube, Unmaker and the axe.
For a mod that wants to keep up with Doom's core gameplay, this can be bad, not only because you'd have to press 7 or 8 more than once, but the Soul cube is intended to be used at rare occasions, while the axe is slow, which could affect how you play the game.
It also doesn't help that, despite the progression based randomization, the melee weapons are still fully randomized, so, if you only get an axe, you'd have to at least find a way to gib a Sawcubus, to see if he drops a chainsaw.
>>4488228
I guess that should explain it.

>> No.4488235

I've never played a Turok game before, and I'm starting with 2. Is weapon damage random? It seems sometimes a shotgun blast will put down those guys with the red arms from across the room, but other times it takes 3 or 4 shots.

>> No.4488243

>>4488163
What mod?

>> No.4488246

>>4488227
What mod?

>> No.4488250

>>4488246

Looks like Immoral Conduct.

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>>4488243
Accessories To Murder + Back To Saturn X

>>4488250
For now.

>> No.4488295

>>4488231
I should also mention that the Unmaker is an upgrade based weapon, that may or may not be an alternate Plasma rifle.

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4488313

RIP Graf! He quit the doom cornrnumlty after getting so ASSBLASTED after lilith.pk3! Victory for DOOMWORLD!

>> No.4488325

>>4488113
The reload functions are pretty slippery. If you end up pressing the reload key for more than a split second, whatever function you're trying to toggle on gets toggled off.

Also that shotgun enchant for the hazmat suit seems overpowered. Pretty powerful for something that consumes only one shell. I think something that powerful should belong only on a weapon's alt-fire.

>> No.4488326

>>4486587
>https://pardonemeplz.tumblr.com/
Awww Term you've got a stalker~

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>compose some of the best tracks for the best DOOM wads
>be highly active in the doom community
>faves diapers, anal vore, cock vore and bathroom control

Can anyone even remotely stop /ourguy/?

>> No.4488331

That'll get you ban& anon. I would delete it if I were you.

>> No.4488338

>>4486572
This.

>> No.4488343

>>4485730
That looks fucking terrifying. Like, really.

Also, have you ever been fucking terrified by a doom monster? In a NOPE sense of the word.

I remember some cacos with the big eye in some wad. They were fairly easy but damn.
Also archviles have allways been unsettling

>> No.4488346

Question because this is something I always wanted, is it possible to make a slow motion weapon switcher like in doom 4? But like a super basic gameplay one that would work with different mods.

>> No.4488347

>>4488113
>>4488325
Now that I think about it, maybe you can also balance it out by simply reducing the gun's rate of fire with that enchantment?

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>>4488215

>play doom because it runs on my potato powered toaster
>this behemoth of a mod don't run on toasters

Bummer.

>> No.4488349

>>4488346
You'll never get satisfying slow motion because the sound system doesn't allow for it, but you can make it pause the game when you bring the menu up with something using the time freezer powerup/function

>> No.4488353

>>4485871
WHAT?

>> No.4488357 [DELETED] 

>>4488331
t. Viscra

>> No.4488367

>>4488325
No idea how to fix that I'm afraid
I wish I knew how to slow it down

>>4488347
Well probably yeah, it is pretty powerful still even tho I nerfed it twice during testings.
Guess I oughta nerf it one more time

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>>4488348
I feel your pain.

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>>4488171
I don't know what's my biggest pet peeve, map layouts where you have to do weird ledgejumps to actually proceed rather than simply hiding a secret behind them, or doing the same with a shootable switch that uses a non-switch texture.

>> No.4488390

>>4488327
What do you expect from Furries and Bronies of the community when making a more deep research about them? It is better you just meet them as they are in the forums and call it a day.

>>4488348
I agree if you mean play it on a toaster like that guy which used a toaster as mouse to play Doom, otherwise nah, for what the mod it is run in pretty low standard computers, anything from the past 10 years should run it normaly if not playing the internal maps.

>> No.4488394 [DELETED] 

>>4488313
>RIP Graf! He quit the doom cornrnumlty after getting so ASSBLASTED after lilith.pk3! Victory for DOOMWORLD!

>> No.4488406

>>4486995
That's nothing. Sometimes I brave the Steam forums and the dedication of the shitposters and trolls make the craziest person on this site seem normal. Even Sarais seems sane compared to these people.
The Morrowind forum alone has this guy who has been there for literally years and only seems to exist to shit on anyone who dares say positive things about the game, mostly with huge essays picking apart their posts.
The internet is full of fucking insane people and sometimes I shudder to imagine what their lives are like.

>> No.4488412

>>4488357
Jesus christ no. I just don't want you banned anon. I've received warnings for much, much less.

>>4488390
Typically, looking up community members who post a lot in off topic forums is a terrible idea.

>> No.4488414

>>4488357
less that and more that you posted furry tiddies on a blue board

that is 100% a bannable offense

so, uh, bye

>> No.4488417

>>4488326

Not my first one, honestly. Probably not my last, either.
I just wanna make stuff and play stuff and see people make stuff, man.

>> No.4488424

>>4488417
Say, now that you're here there's something I was curious about. What made you go with the submachine guns in High Noon Drifter instead of something like a crank gatling gun?

>> No.4488432

>>4488390

> internal maps.

Wait this map pack isn't essential to the campaign?

>> No.4488438

>>4488343
the spider mastermind replacement in shut up and bleed.

>> No.4488439

>>4488438
what is it?

>> No.4488442

>>4488424
Not him, but one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agar_gun
cranked by magical rune-covered flywheel would have been baller

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>>4488438
>those sounds

>> No.4488448

>>4488343
The Hungry from DRLA makes me NOPE on a pretty primal level

>> No.4488456

>>4488424
>>4488442

Pretty much entirely because I wanted to experiment with code. I'd never done a dual-wielding pickup system outside of Samsara, and that was mostly ijon. So I wanted to learn how it could be coded, especially in ZScript.
A crank gatling would be really cool if I add any more weapons, though. If (a HUGE if) I ever do Strife compat, there's a couple holes that would require new weapons to fill in.

>> No.4488457

>>4488448
Was just going to post that. Those things are pure undiluted terror.

>> No.4488460

>>4488456
>A crank gatling would be really cool if I add any more weapons, though. If (a HUGE if) I ever do Strife compat, there's a couple holes that would require new weapons to fill in.
Look no further:

https://youtu.be/ildteJbZ9Jw

This thing looks so beautiful I think I just cried a little.

>> No.4488469

>>4488438
>>4488448
someone post pictures or video

>> No.4488483 [DELETED] 

It's always okay when weebs do it. Remember this.

>>4488343
I managed to get jumpscared by dopefish in the Revenant Problem, does that count?

>> No.4488487

>>4488432

I usually refer the map pack as internal maps as they only works with Hunter's Moon by now, anyways if you're going to play vanilla then no, they aren't not essential, they contains only the Dungeons maps which is pretty much a showcase of what the mod will show when the true campaign arrives but there's no lore or anything else besides Doom's default gameplay, start the map, kill demons, kill boss if it does have one, exit map, call it a Tech Demo for now.

>> No.4488542

>>4488448
it boggles the mind how consistently fucking awful they are as common enemies across every mod they're featured in

>> No.4488548

4CHAN LET ME POST

>> No.4488552

Fuck you Lemonman

>blast him with ssg point-blank
>still alive
>he blasts me farther away
>i die

>> No.4488558

>>4488548
Your wish has been granted.

>> No.4488559

So I just finished Doom 2 (my first old FPS too) and gotta say the level design is hit or miss. Some demons (specially chaingunners) sniping you is annoying as hell and feels wrong. There's some cool secrets, some nice maps, some that feels like bad fan made crap, but I had fun nonetheless. Don't wanna play on a harder dificulty tho, some encounters are a pain in the ass (like Archviles on cramped spaces or sniping you from advantage points) on normal and I don't even wanna start to think how these would play on harder modes).

I'm divided now in which I should play now, Blood (which I'm actually looking foward to) or Shadow Warrior (which is hella fun).

>>4488487

So it's not a full campaign yet and when it does, toasters wouldn't run it, right. But it's so gorgeous I will check it out.

>> No.4488561

>>4488552
Booty blasted.

>> No.4488564

>>4488235
Can't say for absolute sure, but it certainly feels it. Even headshots aren't a consistent thing, since I've had at least one case where I took off one raptor's head with a single pistol shot, then the next one ate three or four shells to the face, and still actually had a face when they finally died.

>> No.4488565

>>4488559
prepare for your ass to be ravaged by Blood

>> No.4488573

>>4488559
I'd suggest Blood if only because I had more fun with it. I've played maybe one minute's worth of Shadow Warrior, and while being able to chop a lot of enemies in half with one katana swipe is hella fun, getting instakilled by like the fifth fucking enemy in the first map of the game, who I can't even see because of how dark the room he's hiding in is, isn't so much.

Not to say that Blood is a cakewalk, like half the enemies in the game have hitscan attacks so you're gonna get your shit wrecked a lot, but it at least never completely stonewalled me with one specific enemy I can't figure out how to deal with.

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>>4488559
Honestly, i recommend you to play... Descent 1 and 2

>So it's not a full campaign yet and when it does, toasters wouldn't run it, right. But it's so gorgeous I will check it out.

Well i stated in the mod's topic that there are a minimum requirements setting to run the map properly, but for running the mod with vanilla map it has none, good luck with what you will find in the Dungeons there, keep in mind few Quake 3 tricks such as Rocket Jumping when playing because that can actually save your ass.

>> No.4488586

>>4488559
>>4488565
Prepare for
MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS!

>> No.4488590

>>4488483
on the contrary of your ever-more-increasingly-incorrect catchphrase, hentai isn't allowed on /vr/ either

>> No.4488592

>>4488565

I'm on the second stage in a area that looks like a ticket booth, and get annally devasted. The weapons are fun, but also feels unreliable, shotgun isn't as eficient like in Doom or SW, or even every other game. It's unerving, but also exciting, it's a very unique feeling, kinda like a actually horror game, but without the horror atmosphere.

>>4488573

Funny because I felt more defenseless in Blood than in SW (I'm played the first 2). The first part of the first mission is tricky, but just tank some shots to the face until you get the Riot Gun and the Uzis, that's why there's plenty of health packs around that area. And then be careful of those TNT ninjas. They explode when they die and may or may not spawn a "lost soul" type of enemy.

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>>4488586
MARANARA 'MERZERELLA

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>>4488586
GERO SHAY CRUO

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>>4488586
LOS GRENADOS TORVEI

>> No.4488605

>>4488592

>and getting
>I played the first 2 missions

Butchering demons also make you butcher the grammar, it seems.

>> No.4488614

>>4488605
not everyone on internets is english-speaking in case you forgot

>> No.4488615

>>4488235
I don't know about random damage, but a lot of it's to do with locational damage and armor. Armored enemies are resistant to shotgun shots unless you shoot their weak areas, arrows do practically nothing to enemies unless you headshot, shooting enemies in the arm doesn't hurt them that much.

>> No.4488623

>>4488614
I'm fixing myself, anon. It's 1AM here, tired as fuck.

>> No.4488624

>2018-1
>people not knowing how the BFG works
https://youtu.be/_0KBAZkPFmI

>> No.4488627

>>4488624
wow, it's actually almost 2018
i'm surprised

>> No.4488630

>>4488624
A glib facsimile.

>> No.4488634

>>4488624
I actually didn't know that the traces only came out in the direction you originally fired.

>> No.4488636

>>4488624
what really triggers me is when people make mods to add THE BFG in another game and it doesn't work like the original

>> No.4488651

>>4488542
It's because the cunts don't clip with eachother and lack the projectile. All they do is gnaw the fuck out of you for minimal health per bite.

Unfortunately there's about 50 or so of the cunts per soul.

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>>4488586
>>4488593
>>4488586
>>4488598
>>4488604

Dude that's Cool!

>> No.4488658
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4488658

>The boys are back in town

>> No.4488669

>>4488542
seriously
they're total shit in SUAB

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4488671

New bread when

>> No.4488691

>>4488624

No matter how many times I watch this video and I try to remind myself of it, I still cant use it properly.

It's just such an ass backwards mechanic and so counterintuitive...

>> No.4488695

>>4488624
I was having a good time watching this but then I peeked over at my recommendations and fucked myself over. fucking flat earth theories and "explanations".

why?

>> No.4488698

>>4488695
Strange. I looked over at recommendations and its regular ol doom stuff. YouTube recommends stuff based on what you watch. Is there something you need to tell us, anon?

>> No.4488708

>>4488698
I was watching planet videos earlier today... I never wandered off into that kinda stuff at any point. that's weird. anyways nothing a couple 'I'm not interested' clicks won't mend.

I had enough with that shit already.

>> No.4488717

>>4488624
decided to look up the pro doom monster strats vid and that shit is 7 years old now, damn

>> No.4488725

>>4488691
It's just a two stage super shotgun, what is the issue?

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>>4488717
The legend never dies

>> No.4488730

>>4488726
episode 2 wen
chingon shnoip wen

>> No.4488736

>>4488730
What else is there to be covered besides chaingun sniping?

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4488760

What difficulty is about equal to ultra violence in heretic?
I'm definitely trying to get my necro guantlets on right now

>> No.4488761

>>4488760
The fourth.

>> No.4488764

>>4488736
how to not pet a cacodemon
various retardations of skulls
spheres and shibt
how 2 slauttermap: target prioritization and the art of being an infight maestro.
other iwads or TCs like zen dynamics

>> No.4488768

>>4488764
how to be a man and a half: a retard's guide to not dying every five seconds
stuff for rusty fuckers.

>> No.4488773

>>4488768
archvile jumpan

>> No.4488774

>>4488764
>>4488768
I mean you could talk about basic infighting tips and how to best dodge homing revenant rockets

>> No.4488776

>>4488774
You could talk about how each monster and weapon fills it's own unique chess-like role, as described by Huy Pham

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>>4486991
>Safe mode is on

>> No.4488786

>>4488761
Thanks. Also in Hexen, what class is the best choice for a first time playthrough?

>> No.4488795

>>4488786
mage has a long range pew pew from the get-go, so he's the safest choice
cleric has the serpent staff which does life drain in melee, and gets the wraithverge by the third hub which is basically a "delete this room" button
fighter hits things a lot and doesn't really need mana

I'd choose mage or cleric

>> No.4488818

>>4484375
>>4484380
in Lithium, there's like a 1 in 500 chance that picking up a skull key, instead of playing the usual sound, you'll hear Gunther saying "skul"

>> No.4488923

>>4488695
at least you're not an anon who doesn't even remember what he watched & all of a sudden you're recommended '40s army shorts on censorship filled with fap material

>> No.4488925

>>4488818
Doesn't that break scripted doors that need the key, since it's been edited? I don't think there's a sound defined for picking up keys.

>> No.4488926

>>4488925
not that i've noticed, i've played lots of Lithium so far

>> No.4488930

>>4488786
The Cleric's toxic flechettes hard counter annoying shield enemies, which is nice.

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4488932

>blocks high noon drifters path

>> No.4488934

>>4488932
neat mod but the guns feel flimsy as fuck

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4488941

>>4488932
>you got a pickup
>those limp sounds
>stiff animations
>weak melee
>zombiemen drop a rapid fire weapon, also giving you a rocket launching altfire

>> No.4488947

>>4488932
>Bare handed
Nah

>> No.4488951

>>4488932

I really like the style of this mod and it really could go a lot of places.
But it needs so much polish. So, so much polish. The gun animations are non-existent, the sound design is flimsy, and the effects are barely there.

>> No.4488952

>>4488932
goddamn angled hands bother me so much
his thumb is too high up, it's not covering the grip enough

>> No.4488971

>>4488932
sorry for being that guy but what mod is this?

>> No.4488972

>>4488971
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58875

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>>4488438
>>4488439
>>4488443
>>4488469
That thing just made me fucking scream the first time I saw it, not gonna lie.

The sounds he make I think are sampled from the very last stretch of Earthbound, the music even.

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>>4488343

>> No.4488984
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flying round and round and round

>> No.4488989

>>4488975
Thot's pussy.png

>> No.4488991

>>4488973
I want to say that it's also a great Mastermind replacement because he's actually really hard as a bossfight and will absolutely destroy you if you don't hurry to destroy him, because he'll just saturate the space with his spawns.

>> No.4488993

>>4488991
>if you don't hurry to destroy him
That's literally the strategy of beating the mastermind. If you don't two-shot point-blank BFG him, his hitscan will get rid of your health before your normal weapons get rid of his.

>> No.4488996

>>4488993
The difference is that you can run and hide from spidey and his gun will stop spinning, the Granfalloon is airborne, smaller, and will keep pursuing you and filling the airspace with his minions.

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4489036

Anyone besides me who doesn't play with standard keyboard and mouse?

>> No.4489047

>>4489036
I play with custom keyboard and mouse

>> No.4489051

>>4489036
define standard keyboard and mouse

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>>4489047
Neat. What's custom about them?

>>4489051
Well moving with the keyboard, then turning (or freelooking, depending on situation and port), and shooting with the mouse.

I'm one of those weird persons who plays with a mouse and pic related and thinks it's the next step in FPS gaming (and people avoid making eye contact with me because they look at it, then look at me), but I'd be interested in what other people who don't play with straight WASD+Mouse do. Like there has to be some who play with straight up gamepads, even on PC, some probably play with other unconventional means.

Like, is there someone out there who plays with a trackball instead of a mouse?

>> No.4489068

>>4489063
an interesting question to be sure, personally i just use mouse and keyboard as well; i also use freelook, even if it is technically cheating, but i do my best not to fuck up progression or secrets like with buttons you're meant to shoot, but is made for ports that don't have freelook

>> No.4489071

>>4489068
>but i do my best not to fuck up progression or secrets like with buttons you're meant to shoot
That's how I do it.

It just feels so much more nice and free to have auto-aim off and just aim manually, I feel like I'm in more control of where my bullets go.

>> No.4489114

NEW THREAD

>>4489112
>>4489112
>>4489112

>> No.4489404

>>4488406
Oh I know what you mean.
Here's a guy who keeps a wall dedicated to literally anyone who gets in an argument with him.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/tf2isb4d

My favorite line is (attempted to convey homosexual interest in me)

>> No.4489538

>>4488725

The timing I suppose. And the abstraction. I mean I expect the big ball of energy to do damage, I dont expect "invisible rays shooting from the same angle I was ten seconds ago" to do damage.

I have this similar problem with abstracted board games.

>> No.4489538,1 [INTERNAL] 

Never challenge the narrative.

>> No.4489595

Does anyone posting on this thread play HEXEN?