/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4469614
All of them.

The one in OP's pic.
Never cared for western computers. Although Amiga has some nice audio editors.

>>4469646
>it's another tech illiterate likes computers because he's a weeb so he only likes nippon computers episode

>>4469614
Amiga for me. My parents had a business and needed a Computer for office work. The Amiga was one of the cheaper options, especially in comparison to an IBM compatible. In hindsight it may have not been the best choice, but it worked, after a fashion. And I got to play stuff like Sim City and Dune on it.
The one thing that stayed with me was the sound and music. Still sounds good today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsFft9H4W5g

>>4469662
Do be fair, Japanese m68k computers are prettier.

>>4469662
X68000 is on another level than your amiga shovelware machine.

>>4469614
Purely in terms of hardware and graphical prowess, the X68000 was objectively the best. It was pretty much an arcade machine in a tower case. Most of its games were iffy port jobs, though. In terms of original games, I'd probably say the Amiga was better.

JPCs may have some cool features but the game selection is pretty poor, mostly just Wizardry, hentai games, and weeb dating sims.

The Amiga, it was my first computer. Coming from an American, it sounds weird, since nobody else had one.

>>4469662
I bet you know a LOT about tech, anon. I bet you do.
Not.

>>4469614
Amiga, just because I have so many fond memories with it. Scanning stuff with DigiView and editing in Deluxe Pain, staying up all night BBSing, my first access to the internet (through a UNIX shell account), and of course games like Lemmings and Moonstone.
>>4469947
Same, though my first was the C64. I'm another one of those seemingly rare NTSC Commodore people.

>>4470676
>I'm another one of those seemingly rare NTSC Commodore people.
What's rare or odd about an NTSC C64? They sold at least several million of them. The Amiga I give you since only 700,000 were sold in North America.

>>4469805
>shitposter shitposts
>random anon brings Amiga intro the discussion
Why?

Also nope, they are pretty on par year-by-year release-by-release.
One is better for a few months, the other gets a new model out, that one is better for a few months, then the first one gets a new model out and is better for a few months again, rinse and repeat.

Man, 16-bit home computers (with the exception of the TI-99) are so much better than the 8-bit crap. I used to like the 8-bit stuff, but that was because I was a Basic peasant ignorant of assembly language and computer architecture. The m68k is a pleasure to program for compared to the 6502 or the Z80.

>>4471030
68000 is mostly 32-bit inside and all the other ones are already fully 32-bit

>>4471031
Yeah, I should have said "16-bit/32-bit" like in the OP.

amiga was mind blowing back in the day

>>4470996
>>random anon brings Amiga intro the discussion
>Why?
Look at the thread title.

>>4470707
Demos, software and games are mostly PAL.
Sure nowadays most PAL software has NTSC mods even when there no original NTSC release.

Does the PC98 count as non-intel since NEC produced the initial processors?

>>4471220
PC98 is basically x86.
It's not Wintel though.

>>4471223
It's a x86 compatible CPU running MS operating systems.

>>4471234
It's a x86 compatible CPU but it's not primary for running any MS OS.

>>4470996
Imagine being so desperate to just start shitposting about anything at all that you didn't even read what the thread was about. Just imagine that.

>>4471383
Obviously he's realised his mistake by now and left the thread out of embarrassment.

>>4471401
No, the guy who bought up amiga, not the guy who mocked him about it

>>4471324
MS-DOS is the standard OS and later machines ran Windows.
Sure there's alternatives like Linux-GNU but nobody had them.

anything that doesn't have european games

>>4471463
>No, the guy who bought up amiga,
You mean the OP, in his opening post?

>>4471220
the PC-98 is effectively an Intel machine (and launched with an Intel CPU originally anyway)
the big difference is that it's not an IBM-compatible, which is probably the distinction OP actually wanted

you can still run a fair bit of PC software on it anyway assuming it doesn't do direct hardware access (eg, "well behaved DOS programs)

>>4471324
they shipped with MS-DOS up until Windows took over, and then the PC-98 market died because there wasn't any point since Windows handled whatever platform differences there were for applications so there was no point in not getting cheaper IBM compatibles

>>4471223
by the time of Windows 3, they were
had a custom Windows version because of the hardware differences, but basically any ordinary Windows software would work and a bunch of the machines shipped with Windows installed from the factory

>>4471548
OP also mentioned Atari ST and all the other 16-bit and 32-bit home computers (not by name but by reference)
Nobody was talking about Amishit being better then Japshit before that anon posted that post about Amishit being shovelware

So, what's the argument again? Except it being an obvious shitpost

>>4471554
Except for this guy right here >>4469646 who got you started with the shitposting in the first place, right?

you faggots are incapable of self-moderation aren't you?

>>4471554
>i'm still shitposting about anything i possibly can, and i STILL haven't actually gone back and read the thread yet

>>4471562
/vr/ has been undergoing a period of ridiculously low quality posting

>>4471573
You should get a trip and start "taking responsibility" for your posts.

>>4471558
>>4471563
You guys sure are confusing
No, he did not shitpost, the two shitposters are the one who replied to him and the one who started shitting on Amiga without a reason

>>4471580
>he did not shitpost
>"he"
Just admit that you're here to be combative and derail this thread as hard as you can over someone even insinuating that the Amiga isn't their favorite machine. Or don't, actually. I find autistic kids spazzing out over differing opinions to be hilarious, so carry on.

>>4469908
>Purely in terms of hardware and graphical prowess
As a games machine, in terms of graphics yes. If we don't bring in workstation machines. That the X68k actually is by price point.
It quickly faded though, it didn't get CPU upgrades like other machines did for example.

>>4471161
>Demos, software and games are mostly PAL
Aside from demos, you've gotta be joking. The amount of PAL games is bigger simply because of the mountains of British tape shovelware made by some teenager in his living room while NTSC users had real games made by professional devs.

>>4471580
you need a reason to shit on the amiga?

>>4471584
I'm pretty sure you're the one trying to derail and bait
I didn't post >>4469646 but I presume anon's a he

Anyways, I know the likes of you, you're probably the one who started with it and now try to randomly push it over onto other anons
Have fun

By the way, that's me >>4469632
I don't have a "favorite" platform, I like all homemicros from the time

>>4471597
>no one ended up taking my "computer wars" derail bait
>oh well
>time to try to blame it on someone else and find another thread to troll

Bye, Felicia.

>>4471602
Do you even realize who posts what?
Point out what posts you think I posted that tried to derail or shitpost in this thread
Please

Also no, you're the one who tried to push it on me
See >>4471584
Everyone can see that, don't play smartass and think people are as dumb as you are

>>4471604
I said bye, Felicia. Take care. Good luck in your next thread.

>>4471607
Why are you so buttblasted now?
I disparage shitposting but you're just being too weird

>>4471613
Because I'm not giving you any victory in this thread. Your bait didn't work. Your sad attempts at getting the last word in as a consolation prize isn't going to work, either.

Report and ignore.

>>4471614
As I said, I'm sorry to tell you think but you have the wrong person
I haven't posted any shitposts, not a single one

If you would actually read the thread, you'd see that I already mentioned ( >>4470996 ) that both anons ( >>4469662 and >>4469753 ) are shitposting are should be ignored
Yet all my post got was more shitposts, go figure, I sure as hell didn't post the replies to that post, else where did you even come into the discussion when you weren't one of the original posters to that post?

It makes perfect sense that you're just trying to ruins the thread for everyone

>>4471621
>I haven't posted any shitposts, not a single one
Except for all these shitposts you keep making trying to convince people you aren't shitposting.

>It makes perfect sense that you're just trying to ruins the thread for everyone
Which is why you can't stop replying and ruining the thread, right?

>>4471621
just stop
we know you posted >>4469805 to start a shitstorm

If you give them attention, you're complicit.

>>4471625
I guess if that's true, we are both shitposting
Sure everything that isn't thread topic is technically a shitpost

>>4471626
What are you even on about

>>4471634
>i'm shitposting
Yeah, we know. Personally, I'm still hanging on to the hope that you'll get bored and stop.

>>4471637
And you keep enabling him by responding to him.

Stop.

>>4471637
Well, you're just as guilty as me
At least I didn't start this shit

>>4471639
But you did start this shit, and I intended on ending it. I'm in it to win it, baby.

>>4471640
>But you did start this shit
Explain to me again how >>4470996 is a shitpost when it excipitly points out shitposters with the point to discourage it?

You forgot a few.

>>4471641
Explain to me why you're still replying to me, and further derailing the thread, if for no other reason than some "get the last word in" game? A game that I'm quite sure I told you I was going to win.

>>4471635
who cares. Let europeans have their amiga with all its shit.

>>4471647
/sthg/ don't cut it no more, shitter?

>>4471647
Because I dislike retards who derail threads

>>4471649
Sure, whatever that means.

>>4471650
You definitely love aiding and abetting shitposters by responding to them instead of reporting and ignoring, though.

>>4471650
But you are the retard derailing the thread. I'm making sure of that. You aren't going to walk away from this thread with a win, kiddo.

>>4471635
NTSC/PAL didn't matter much for the Amiga as it did for consoles.
So what's the problem?

>europeans are poor
That's a meme you dip.
Piracy was very much alive in US also, even since the C64, C64 bootleg disks got spread around a lot.

Also I don't know a single yurotard who thinks that the Amiga is a European machine. Everybody knows it's Commodore and US.
Who is this though? Some reddit post?

Let this thread stand as a reminder.

>>4471656
>kiddo
It's this shitpost again

>>4471660
And we already know how to deal with shitters.

See >>4471659

>>4471662
Fine.

>>4471660
>amiga is the bestesterust! everyone else is weeaboo!
It's this shitpost again

>>4471665
If you want to take part in the actually discussion of the thread, sure.
Both the Amiga series of machines and the X68000 are beasts.
The custom m68k compatible CPU in the X68k was a beast for it's time and the graphics where amazing. It was a true workstation machines in capability and price. It was used by many arcade developers because it's graphics.
The Amiga on the other hand was truly a home multimedia machine for it's time, it was cheap and powerful. The custom chipset did wonders for its price point.

>>4471673
>see, i'm not shitposting! look!
Grats. You finally made an on-topic post that was (mostly) not intended to bait someone into further shitposting. Keep it up.

>>4471676
Who could have guessed!

>>4471680
Who could have guessed!

>>4471682
So your intent was to bait?
Gee, who knew.

>>4471683
So your intent was to bait?
Gee, who knew.

>>4471635
This is VWestlife?

>>4471689
Oh no.
https://amigalove.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32

>the stuff they say about America is mean, it is ignorant, it is wrong.
That guys is like opposite of /vr/.