/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4463673
Pixels with ctr ?

Man if only emulators had CRT shaders you could use that replicated the shitty RF look perfectly

>>4463673
it's still the same image, one is just being shown through a different standard of video

if you changed the text at the top to something less retarded you probably wouldn't get replies

I feel like the amount of care people pay to this issue is way too fucking much for how little of a difference it actually makes.

>>4463694
>I feel like the amount of care people pay to this issue is way too fucking much for how little of a difference it actually makes.
most of the people that make these threads probably gobble up all the nonsense they see on Youtube

they then proceed to run out and buy ridiculous mods, upscalers, and even pay full price for games that are old as dirt

>>4463673
What is this then?

>>4463697
Sometimes people pray premium price for acutal old dirt. Your judgments are just as unimportant as their collections and you sound like a whiny bitch. At least they enjoy their old as dirt games.

>no scanlines

fake and gay

>>4463701
What are you implying?

>>4463701
looks like boxart

>>4463701
What indeed.

>>4463683
>>4463685
I fucking love virtual on

>>4463680
You can do that

>>4463673
Both are sort of true. The right is similar to what an average TV of time made the game look, but the left is the ideal way the game could have looked if displays back then could do it justice.

It's why the box art and diagrams in instruction manuals were pixelated. And when Nintendo shows the games in HD it's with sharp pixels, not simulated scanlines.

>>4463673

They are both true it just depends on what context you are using. However it doesn't fucking matter. Why don't you make an image about how hipsters don't even play or beat 8bit games when they say how much they love them and buy those shitty bead artworks of megaman sprites.

>>4463706
They probably never even play them. Also, you're one of them.

>>4463673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAU4qVUKPG8

>>4463706
>you sound like a whiny bitch.
and you sound really offended for some reason

it's like they say, a fool and his money are soon parted

>>4463751
Me too man, me too. Sega is about to release a new entry in the series that is a cross-over with a popular LN series but I unfortunately can't get a PS4 yet. Life as a poorfag is suffering.

>>4463673
> hipsters
they don't know anything.

>>4463680
all emulators have those effects. some people like the effect, others prefer unfiltered screens (such as the mario the left).

>>4463673
I like the phosphor shader of bsnes, but takes some getting used to and it is too slow sadly (lots of slowdowns). But it makes the game look like on a real old tv, in the sense that you don'T know there are pixels. Everything looks shaped. Only the vertical lines take some time to get used to.

>>4464019
it looks like an laptop screen from the side

dear god why

>>4463708
Nintendo put actual game graphics on the black box games. As for your image, no one knows what the fuck Capcom was thinking with that abomination.

>>4464019
it's pretty good once you get used to it. Only problem is the slowdown which is too bad to play with it. I know the vertical stripes are not ideal, but it shows somewhat what low res pixels looked on a tv because of the shifted rgb cells.

>>4463701
That's how the developers intended it.
OP just had a shitty screen.

This is what 8 bit actually looks like

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

>>4463701
Why is Mario dying by falling into lava on the cover?

I think there's a charm to both scanlines and raw-output

look at your picture, that looks great. but at the same time, i emulate nes/snes games with scanlines


But some games look like shit without scanlines.

>>4464496
meant to reply to >>4463829

>>4463701
in game graphics put directly onto a box? you really think they are gonna give the box a crt effect faggot?

>>4464496
I agree. I personally dislike scanlines because to me it just looks like noise, but I respect that to some they think it makes it look better.

>>4464019
that looks like fucking dogshit, clouds are white not grey you fucking faggot

>>4463701
Forgive me if I'm using the wrong term, but this has bleeding in it. So they were somewhat trying to immitate a CRT

>>4464530
fucking shit dude, your fucking eyes fucking adapt! Just give them some fucking time and fucking enjoy fucking the game

>>4464002
The demo is fun but the AI is really simple. Also melee was simplified since you only have your basic melee. One single melee chain. It sucks considering I play Apharmd B

>>4464541
Crts are high contrast. Black blacks, very bright whites. That looks like a tv with a grey screen in the way.

>>4464527
on an emulator scanlines do look noisy, on a crt they make the image look proper

>>4464570
I sort of agree. An emulator can't make a non-crt look much like a crt, that's for sure. But I disagree with a crt looking "proper". I would agree that it looks more traditional, but even before other displays were around I always thought crts looked super shitty and newer screens make old games look much better. I also understand if your opinion is the opposite though.

>>4464561
filterfags will never understand this

>>4463683
>>4463685
What's the point in even making comparisons if they are heavily encoded and look like shit.

>>4464479
>0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

But but, that's a byte!

It actually looks pretty clean on regular composite if you have a nice crt

>>4464691
they demonstrates the differences clearly enough

>>4464694

>>4464694
>responding to tripfags making off topic shitposts
Shiggy.

Anyway, pic related is how the devs intended it to look. Note the purple sky.

>>4463673
no because hipsters always make it look worse that it really was

see every psudo-retro indie game on steam

Blaarg's NTSC filter is the only one that actually looks decent. I still don't really use it, but it looks great for a lot of NES games.

>>4466291
>psudo-retro
Wow you're stupid.

>>4463673

>>4464553
Well, fuck

>>4463989
You can't deny the blue background on the left is a pain to look at.

>>4464694
It's actually nothing because the value of that string is 0.

>>4466765
I think they both look bad but the right looks way worse. It is an ugly blue.

>>4466776
The one on the left is too saturated, gives me eye cancer.
The one on the right might be ugly, but at least it will not make me blind.
Ideally just fix the color palette on the left and would be perfect.

>>4463989

>>4466808
No.

>>4466893
doesn't the earthworm jim creator hate fags? kek

>>4466893
>>4463673
PC master rice is pixellated.

>>4463989
That's how you spot teens that never played on the original system.

Also, the right one looks better than the left one. Even if the CRT doesn't look like this.

>>4464561
>Black blacks

>>4464913
>off-topic
Fine I'll post on topic.

>>4463673
Raster arcade monitors would have been considered the gold standard for how 8-bit games look, although the developers - or the designer specifically - usually laid things out on graph paper without even initially concerning themselves with pixel by pixel layout which was a job for the sprite artists so not only is there some variation within the realm of "developers intentions" depending on which specific developer you mean, the original developer's "intentions" were always an abstraction that arguably never even really existed and certainly not in a concrete form.

>>4467035

>>4467205

>>4463673
The part about hipster is. The other is pure bullshit.

I started using digital imaging software in the '90s with JASC's PaintShop Pro. I ALWAYS used the Gaussian blur effect to make something look more professional because it just looked better on a CRT monitor.

Both examples in your OP pic look like shit. The pixel density (high resolution) is really highlighting how primitive these graphics are and not even blurring will fix it.

>>4464495
he's doing a wall kick

>>4467205
What color is the dress?

Ugly!

>>4463694
>>4463697

I mean if you dont see it thats fine. However some of us still have 20/20 vision. Also only retards buy scalers.

>>4466741
t.hipster

Unfortunately I got rid of my NES a few years ago. Otherwise I would connect it to a CRT and take a picture of Super Mario Bros.

>>4464553
what game is that?

>>4464913
It's blue though, definitely not purple

>>4466960
No, that's the artist, who also created Armikrog.

>>4463673
8 bit doesn't look like anything. It's the display that renders the signal. Are you asking if the left looks like what a typical consumer CRT television at the time would look like? No.

>>4466893
Carmack was talking about CRT monitors, by the way. Not CRT televisions. CRT monitors during Carmack's prime dev days were already sharp enough that dithering looked like shit on them.

>>4470506
PC master race dev is correct.

>>4463989
Somehow the right looks more like an snes palette

>>4468289
>someone else on this planet remembers PSP
i was still using psp7 until i got a new laptop earlier this year. I preferred 7 because they completely changed the layout with 8, made it look more like photoshop.

>>4464019
if you're so concerned with obfuscating the pixels just use billinear

>>4470386
Okay, I'll remember he's the one I like.

>>4470381
Silent Hill Ass: Revenge of the Burtz.