/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

OP
-Seeking for possible improvements and additions
-Current points of interest for some posters include
--Build game downloads w/ all their xpacks
--Migrate infographics to other external hosting?
--Updated 'Our Wads' pastebin?

=== NEWS ===

[12-12] La Tailor Girl v1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1031061#p1031061

[12-10] Sonic Mayhem: 7 maps for Quake 2 for its 20th birthday
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/SonicMayhemQ2.zip

[12-10] Cacowards 2017 published
https://www.doomworld.com/24years/

[12-8] Tangerine Nightmare RC1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1824058

[12-8] Bytesize maps: 10 small (100-line) maps by traversd
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98218-bytesize/

[12-8] Anon intending on starting community mapping project
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4445772/#4447712

[12-5] Yet another /vr/spooky update
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkvqm7czasybpsv/vryspooky_4.rar?dl=0

[12-4] Dead Marine - "general enhancement" mod from maker of Smooth Doom - beta released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58521

[12-4] Anon release; MAP07 replacer 'Panas'
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=90965153097717279634

[12-2] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1029395#p1029395

[12-1] Hellscape final version on idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98114-hellscape/

[12-1] New Quake infographic
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4429812/#4430438

[11-30] Babel creator hosts website to hold current DL links and information
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

[11-29] Exporting resources from Chasm: The Rift now possible
https://twitter.com/DickWhitehouse/status/934978069130911746

[11-27] Complex Doom v27 update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58535

[11-27] Final Doomer 2.0 released (now 2.1)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55061

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>>4452465
Profiles for Doom modders and mappers could be interesting, where you get to show off people why they were considered to be great or projects they didn't expect these creators to be a part of.

>>4456976
>no doom port on the switch

>>4456986
>>4452465
there was something like that for a while, Behind The Bossbrain, but it died a horrible death

RIP

How do I make transparent floors like these ones solid in GZdoom so they stop eating my shots?

>>4457023

You can't, without editing the map.
Those aren't technically "floors", they're just linedefs painted around the solid area so that it looks like it's in pieces. There's only one floor.

What are some wads that are visually similar to and play like Alien Vendetta?

Oi, spacemarines! Can you recommend me some lovecraftesque wads to run with Strange Aeons content?

>>4457048
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/rylayeh

>>4456943
Clarification for the Duke link...
It's a link to a mega folder that will hopefully have the most talked about games on /doom/, not just Nukem. Not being a faggot, just want to point it out.

>>4457048
There was this one that had a picture of Cthulhu as its titlepic, can't remember it for the life of me though. It began all moody, with an urban setting, and had a library with a portal in it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

What is your favourite wad and why?

>>4457095
my favorite wad is a wad of cash

and the golden souls cause im a nintendrone

>>4457106
golden souls 2 full version never.

he even announced, released a demo and the full version of another wad in the meantime, Castlevania.

>>4456987
teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeechnically, there is, but that's nudoom. and this is /vr/

Give it some time, and someone will figure out how to crack it. It'll probably be one of the first things to happen.

>dewm babbeez
;^D

>>4457145
I agree, Hovertank 3D is better.

>>4457145
>even trolls moe-ify themselves now

has anybody managed to repack the Duke World Tour episode as a GRP to be played with eDuke yet?

>>4456943
>tfw that's your edit
I'm absolutely flattered.

Also, I made an updated version.

>>4457209
when other people use your OC it feels like sex in your heart.

>>4457210
>tfw one time you got your OC into the OP three times in a row and just about creamed your pants

>>4456943
If the source code for all the Marathon games got released and made open-source, then maybe someday(probably either shortly after the remake is released or a year after) the same will happen with SS1

>>4457216
I thought the Marathon games' source code was released years ago?

>>4457224
read his post again.

>Doom sourceport for both 3DS and PSP
>Quake Sourceports for 3DS
>But no System shock sourceport for either Vita or 3DS
WHY

>>4457226
It's not particularly clear, there's a reason English teachers hound you about precision and clarity.

>>4457227
probably cause it's less popular, less known for being on every electronic platform known to man and a much more complex game.

>>4457230
No idea what you're talking about, I'd say it's pretty clear the fact that he stated that the source code for Marathon had already been released, you misread.

>>4457227
>>4457231
Or you know, the source code has never been released, so you can't make a source port.
You could make a compatible engine, but you'd have to reverse engineer the whole thing.

>>4457232
No, he said "if" which is ambiguous.
A clearer sentence would be "Since the source code for all the Marathon games got released and made open-source, then maybe someday(probably either shortly after the remake is released or a year after) the same will happen with SS1"
See? Change one word and there's no longer any question as to what was meant.

>>4457237
True. My mistake there.

>>4457241
No problem.

>>4457209
That's cool. Too bad you can't change the image of the post.

>>4457227
>PSP port was decent for what it was, but the Vita one is just the same thing
>3DS Doom source port doesn't have functional music
>Haven't bothered checking if ctrQuake has functional music

I wish 'it runs Doom' was sometimes a bit more than just a proof of concept and then swept under the rug.

>>4457209
>shitty rotated pixels

>>4457282
I checked doom 2 3ds on youtube and it does have music.

>>4457285
You try to do it then.
I'm not going to completely redraw them for an isometric perspective.

How recently has it been since Doom had to change the medikit red cross?
I got my current copy on Steam only a year or so ago and mine has the old style health.

>>4457289
Are you drawing the sprites? It should be some simple transformations.

Besides, SLADE will let you get the sprites straight from the IWAD.

>>4457295

>>4457305
hm

>>4457293
When bfg edition was releases

whos inside the thing?

>>4457227
It's a crime that we still don't have a proper Dark Forces sourceport.

>>4456932
how can he recover?

>>4457293
I think I prefer the pill look for the stimpacks. I imagine they're literally just packaged stimulants, while medikits serve as proper first aid. I think everyone knows what health bonuses are.

>>4457361
is should have just been a heart. much less jarring

To whoever posted that Makaron pic, source pls and thank you.

Nothing to see here, people. Just a bunch of demons doing demon things.

>playing Beyond Belief
>tfw proper Cthon boss fight
Are there any Quake maps with a proper boss fight against Shub?

>>4457354
I always wondered that. Presumably some Martian royalty.

>>4457354
what part of Doom 3 is this?

Also: Playing Sunlust map90 now, and hear the music from UT'99
Go check the WAD in Slade. It's in MIDI.
How the hell did thery convert UMX to midi with next to no loss? Is there an UMX-> midi converter somewhere?

>>4457384
iirc Unreal games had tracker music, maybe they got converted with a custom soundfont packed in?

>>4457384
the secret before the final boss iirc

>>4457387
You can pack a soundfont into a MIDI?

>>4457384
That's near the end of Doom 3, you descend into the archeological dig, where you'll first fight the spider lady boss again, but this time there's two of them, then further down at the bottom you'll find the final boss, the cyber demon.

In general, the boss battles of Doom 3 I think are pretty ok, with the standout bossfight being The Guardian, because you need to fight him in an unconventional way, he's actually really interesting.
The final boss fight is pretty bland though.

>>4457396
DOOR STUCK

>>4457394
not a clue, I dont know shit about music, but maybe wad author had this midi and some text file telling it to use specific soundfont packed into pk3/wad as well? not a clue m8, just guessing

>>4457395
final boss is a blunder
>get stocked with shitload of all ammo
>cyberdemon hype
>can only be killed with soulcube
>its a cutscene kill
cmon

>>4457402
How do you even do that?

And why does it fuck with the sightlines?

>>4457405
There's nothing like a soundfont in the wad, only the usual stuff, and no scripts either since it's a Boom-compat.

>>4457410
It's a secret!

>>4457402

PLEASE

I BEG YOU

>>4457415
this eye even swivels around to 'look' at you in certain angles. it's a bit buggy tho.

>>4457364
I only found out about this artist recently, but I love her stuff.

>>4457415
Please I need to know

>>4457409
Doom 3 was a blunder in general
>unsatisfying shit guns
>jump scares
>FUCKING JUMP SCARES IN A DOOM GAME BITCH YOU'RE DOOMGUY - *YOU* ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE JUMPSCARE
>no sprinting around blasting monsters in the face at top speed
>Cyberdemon had to be fought with the magical macguffin
>Audiologs. Audiologs everywhere.

What's the best way to map?

Fully design each room at a time or come up with a general layout first and then fill in the details?

>>4457421
It's a fake!

>>4457430
honestly first time you go to hell I thought "fuck yes the game is finally starting!"
turns out its a short stroll, you are then sent on another a bit longer stroll that feels more like doom, still hella disappointing

>>4457440
I'm dissapointed.

Oh, well, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with an OOB glitch found by a TASer.

>>4457440
>>4457415
>>4457417
let's not neglect the ceiling.

>>4457430
>BITCH YOU'RE DOOMGUY - *YOU* ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE JUMPSCARE

Rip & Tear wasn't a meme back then when Doom 3 came out.

>>4457448
I tried to make a brain on the ceiling and a rune on it/the floor. Didn't work out too well. Oh well.

>>4457449
I don't know, I would be scared by a guy running around at ~40 mph with a double-barreled shotgun and an extreme hatred for anything that threatens him.

>>4457449
I've assumed that Hell was getting nervous about this guy since the end of Doom 2.
Not to the extent that Doom 4 made him out to be - Hell's own Devil to fear - but more of a "Holy shit what is this guy?"

>>4457449
Rip n' Tear wasn't a meme until 2011 to be honest, Brutal Doom is what overused that and the meme came along which before it, was just a little joke about the comics.

>>4457454
>Hell was getting nervous about this guy since the end of Doom 2.
you mean DooM 1 where you get resurrected by hell to stop invading their shit

>>4457430
he was just a regular marine like everybody else, not some badass power fantasy & the weapon reflected that

>>4457452
And the room with the two archviles inside of the large hell-tick-thing. I still need to fix it, they're a pain at the moment.

>>4457462
WAS a regular marine. Then he kicked hell's ass and became the motherfucking Doomguy.

>>4457460
Considering they immediately fucked Earth over after this, I think they assumed he got lucky one time.
Then he stomped them again.

>>4457472
I thought doom 3 wasn't doom guy
. He helped break open doom guys crypt the demons sealed him in or something.

>>4457484
It is doomguy, it's a reboot. Doom 4 is another reboot.

>>4457487
Doom 4 implies it could be the same guy from the original games too.
The Argent knights may look like something from a fantasy world, but the Doomslayer wears technological power armour and knows how to use UAC tech.

>>4457493
>Doom 4 implies it could be the same guy from the original games too.
That's more of a "reboot that accomodates the previous games events in its new story". Think of it as if DmC took place after DMC3. Hence all the new shit in Doom 4 and how things like the Spiderdemon are treated as new enemies.

>>4457493
D44Mguy is doom classic guy. Quake Champions confirmed it. 3guy on the other hand, im not sure. I think its implied classicguy is in the sarcophagus in >>4457354 3guy could be from the future or something

>>4457487
doom slayer is d64 guy
doom 3 guy is just a guy who got lucky

>>4457512
doom 3 is doom guy, again, it was a reboot, they had no idea about doom slayer or any of that shit yet, and no we don't know if doom 64 is even canon.

How do I play Death using bloodgdx

>>4457516
*Deathwish

>>4457514
id confirmed that Doom 3 is in a separate timeline from Doom 1, 2, 64, and 2016

>>4456987
between skyrim, wolfenstein & DOOM 4 being on the switch now I'm suprised that bethesda hasn't done a id classic collection.

hell, I'd even settle for a VC port of DOOM 64.

>people seriously discussing doom lore

>>4457527
get the hell out of here, Carmack.

>>4457530
How dare you speak to god himself that way.

Seriously though, doom lore isn't super important.

>>4457548
Yeah but it's fun and makes for some interesting discussion

>>4457548
no shit
it's still fun

>>4457553
True.

Although anyone who takes a person that can run at basically the speed of sound with no enhancements that kills the entire army of hell seriously is asking to get some weird looks at the very least.

>>4457558
Dude, people talk about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure ALL the time!

>>4457563
Are you a weeb for posting this, or am I a weeb for laughing?

Poor Tom.

>>4457523
You're a f*cking f*ggot

>>4457430
>unsatisfying shit guns
the rocket launcher, chaingun, and plasma gun are top tier
>no sprinting around blasting monsters in the face at top speed
but you can literally do that and strafe jump

>>4457573
Romero's such a jackass.

>>4457579
That was Adrian's idea though.

>>4457430
It had a really good chainsaw.

>>4457527
The only thing that should be known about Doom lore is this: Doomguy's initials are J.C.

>>4457579
Dead Keen was Adrian Carmack's doing. Romero and Tom went on to form Ion Storm after both left id.

>>4457589
>That was Adrian's idea though
I'm talking about the fact that Romero made the map editor thinking about just himself not caring about the other employees like Tom or American McGee. The whole reason Doom 2 is hated is thanks to Romero and he was rightfully fired after Carmack BTFO his ass later on.
>>4457592
Yeah, for Romero to make fucking Daikatana and forever ruin his reputation. Meanwhile Tom went on to work on Deus motherfucking Ex proving how massively superior he was to Romero.

>>4457430
you forgot
>pretty uninteresting maps until hell
>rarely fight more than five monsters at a time thanks to Glorious Carmack Engine 3.0™

>>4457591
No christfaggotry in this thread, please, I've dealt with enough of your kind in other boards already.

>>4457571
yes

>>4457597
What the fuck does the map editor have to do with anything?

>>4457591
is his last name denton?

Is it just me, or was the Doom 3 chaingun the inspiration for mods like Final Doomer, that like to show a modern take on the Doom chaingun as a weapon that doesn't fire any faster, but instead deals heavy damage per shot?

I only recently started playing with 110 FOV and I can't go back.

doom's standard 90 just doesn't do it for me anymore. fucking quake, man.

>>4457603
Carmack really can't do anything right since Doom 3. He was arrogant and autistic enough to think that his shitty engine would be preferred over ragdoll physics and he lost pretty hard. Then he moved on to muh megatextures on Rage and that one was a mistake too.
>until Hell
Hell was extremely disappointing, the levels were boring, straightforward and nothing special, even the uac levels were more interesting because at least they had SOMETHING every now and then, like the puzzle with the capsules and the crane, or the room where you use a machine to turn a scientist into a skeleton.

>>4457604
*tips green armor*
m'ancubus

>>4457615
>*tips green armor*
>not *tips armor bonus*
ONE JOB.

>>4457615

>>4457614
Doom 3 has ragdoll physics. It was also their bestselling game.

>>4457614
In a lot of ways Doom 3 was a victim of the success of Half-Life & hype for Half Life 2: Now We Can Physics!

>>4457620
i wanted to pick something that was in both doom and quake (due to quake's famous crucified jesus mural) and so green armor it had to be, as doom lacks yellow/red armor but quake 1 lacks blue armor/armor shards

>>4457430
>no sprinting around blasting monsters in the face at top speed
You can do this in Doom 3. Also this isn't something everyone constantly did in the original Doom games either, the whole "lightspeed fast unstoppable Doomguy" is a modern meme reinforced by nu-Doom. Average person playing Doom was not speedrunning it, and overall the game had a stop and go style, often trying to take key enemies out from a distance. You would know that if you had played anything other than Brvtal Doom.
>jump scares
Doom was always meant to have a scary or at least tense atmosphere to it. Time and soyboy memes have effaced that but Doom 3 was staying faithful to the original game by trying to make a somewhat spooky experience.
>FUCKING JUMP SCARES IN A DOOM GAME BITCH YOU'RE DOOMGUY - *YOU* ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE JUMPSCARE
doombabbies need to go

>>4457604
He's the only one who can kill the demons though.

>>4457631
>is a modern meme reinforced by nu-Doom.
God I hate nu-Doom so much. It pretty much ruined Doom for me.

>>4457634
I personally wish I could travel back in time to 10 years ago. The Doom community was great back then and MP was really active.

>>4457634
Didn't for me, I loved it for what it was and I'm excited for the sequel.
Mind you, I had extremely low expectations for the game.

I prefer to just look at it as a separate thing from the original games, and that way it feels fine.

>>4457629
>quake's famous crucified jesus mural
That was cool as fuck, anyone who opposes having things like that in a game is a fag.

>>4457634
If that's all it took for you to hate Doom. Then you really didn't like Doom in the first place

>>4457613
>not playing with 360 FOV
some goddamn console kiddies in here right now

>>4457471
Retextured the inside of the castle. Now has pain elemental and a small slaughteresque part (the player's intended to backpedal and the knights will appear to come out into the courtyard after them)

>>4457527
the doom bible exists for a reason

>>4457434
Someone please respond

>>4457651
Your texture work is giving me eye cancer

>>4457661
I forgot this was a thing.

This is amazing.

>>4457631
the game operates at a much slower pace. seriously, the whole 'you can play doom 3 fast if you cheese the shit out of X' does not equal fast game flow at all. it was meant to be slower paced from the get-go and if you got a different notion from it it's because it was the first doom game in 3D and that's why you had to accommodate yourself and adapt to it. there weren't that many monsters, there wasn't any verticality to the maps, there was no openness, all three things doom excelled at while keeping tone in check. doom 3 dragged itself out for way too long and lingered about with its combat pace.

you could argue the reason nudoom feels lacking in atmospheric tone is because the horror element wasn't as reinforced but with doom 3 it was the exact opposite. I'll gladly take fighting 12 guys in a moshpit over one imp with the futuristic equivalent of a blunderbuss any day.

>doombabbies
what does this even mean.

>>4457651
>Superman Costume Color Scheme: The Level

Oh, and your sky a shit.
Also, which sourceport washes everything out like this? It looks hideous.

>>4457659
I draw the layout and then map it in GZDB, but I'm not a very good idea.

>>4457676
Don't be so mean, your posts will get deleted.

totally haven't tried this tactic before

>>4457670

>doombabbies
>what does this even mean

The appearance of 'The Mod Which Shall Not Be Named' has caused various old farts in the community to become increasingly hostile towards anyone they perceive as being newer than themselves, or whom they perceive as liking Doom for different reasons than themselves. Doom is high fuckin' Shakespeare to these folks, and certainly not cooked up by some college guys who took their love for 90s metal, D&D and other inspirations and crafted it into a game.

>>4457687
>>/vr/thread/S3111550#p3111943

>deleting my post for calling out doombabbies
This board is for homos.

>>4457704
don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, then

he's really mellowed out

>>4457731
Who?

>>4457739
The little boy reading this.

>>4457687
>>4457670
>>doombabbies
its a meme that exactly one person is trying to force, and it isn't working because noone else is that retarded

>>4457756
Besides, even if it wasn't so forced, who even qualifies as one these days. Sure, I'm still in school, and I know about Doom, but I don't wear it like a badge everywhere.

>>4457787
>who even qualifies as one these days.
anyone who plays quake/quake 2/quake 3/doom 3/serious sam/basically any game other than doom and the first words out of their mouth is "the super shotgun isn't powerful enough"

>>4457792
What kind of fucking autist would say that? Personally, I think it's too powerful in some situations. 2 shells for one zombie is a bit excessive, isn't it?

>>4457417
>>4457448
>>4457452
>>4457471
>posting screenshots with toolbars on the bottom
When will this meme die?

>>4457815
I think it's less a meme and more sheer laziness and inability to put enough effort to crop despite GIMP being free and not that hard to use.

>man /doom/ is slow today...
>turns out I missed the new thread link

>>4457817
Isn't there a screenshot button?

>>4457395
I thought all of Doom 3 was pretty great. Just not what people expected.

>>4457687
>and certainly not cooked up by some college guys
oh no kidding, where did john carmack and john romero get their college degrees? I'll wait.

>>4457597
>Meanwhile Tom went on to work on Deus motherfucking Ex
tom hall didn't work on deus ex, he was the project lead for anachronox at the time, dipshit.

>>4457507
>I think its implied classicguy is in the sarcophagus
No, it isn't. Everyone wants to say this because Doom4guy was also trapped in a sarcophagus, but there's no resemblance between the two sarcophagi whatsoever.

It just holds a dead, cherished martian.

>>4457817
>GIMP
Even MS Paint can crop stuff nicely now.

>>4457838
Alt + Print Screen also captures only the active window.

>>4457792
I would say after 15~ years of continuous play the kick behind the boom has decreased a lot

Which [No]'d feature request upset you the most?

>>4457845
Carmack stole it and Romero made college his bitch. everyone knows that faggot.

Trying out GZDoom Builder for the first time (as opposed to Doom Builder 2) and I'm getting terrible fps in visual mode (as opposed to perfect fps in DB2). Any tips for fix this?

>>4457849
would you open me a slipgate?

>>4457851
Less Graf Zahl

>>4457851
Wasn't multi-monitor support shitcanned? Would be cool to have the automap and other data on one screen, could open up cool potential for mods. Like, have Psychic, Guncaster, D4D etc have their shops on one screen or something. Lithium could go nuts.

>>4457854
No.

>>4457851
I suggested (MERELY SUGGESTED, NOT DEMANDED) that there would be an option to scale your doom player in the player settings.

Like, not to an extreme either. Just like from 0.9 to 1.1, even. And he didn't even give a reason why it wouldn't work, he just used his famous autograf on me and that was it.

It was just an quirky idea for like more player variety.

i wonder if anyone else here played trough some wolfenstein-like andrid games like gloomy dungeons or freaklabs

>>4457851
The one where he refused to expose a very simple hard-coded camera feature to ZScript.

Whenever you fall from jumping, your view height dips down a little before moving back up into the default position.

He responded to my request with explaining how jumping works in the engine as if I am fucking stupid. Then I made another feature request directly pointing to the code that can be exposed for the user to alter in ZScript, he ignored it completely.

>>4457863
>Automap on a seperate screen
By the Gods, who created you and what church do I have to go to to worship them?

>>4457865
The problem with that is then everyone would be 0.9 because hitboxes.

>>4457876
Who said that the hitbox size would have to be modified at all?

>>4457876
No, like the hitboxes would be the same, and if they wanted they could make the option to disable the scaling visuals in the client's player settings.

>>4457878
>>4457880
Then everyone would be 1.1 because it would because it makes it harder to discern where your hitboxes are.

Kinda like how the revenant is actually half his sprites' height, but far less extreme.

>>4457880
Wait, I misread it.

Then no one would use this scaling.

That feature would amount to nothing.

>>4457873
Benellus

Also, apparently Doom Retro actually does this from what I hear. Too bad there's no real incentive to use it.

>>4457849
>Alt + Print Screen also captures only the active window.
fucking hell. I had no idea

>>4457884
I guess.
The skins option on Zandronum can be turned on or off. But do most enjoy using skins or not, would probably be more or less the same as scaling.

Figured out how to have ACS scripts get triggered by a choice in a ZSDF conversation. (Although I don't see why it wouldn't also work in USDF.) Probably not NEW, but I'm pretty sure a lot of people think the two scripting types are inoperable so it was nice to find a way. More people need to mess with Strife dialogue scripts!

Dunno if you can coax it into doing named scripts, though. Might only be numbered. If you figure it out, please tell the class.

Here's what I did with it, making a dialog option trigger a script where the Shotgunner gets out of the way and there's some A/V confirmation stuff. https://webmshare.com/play/ZjxDK

>>4457817
>>4457815
>>4457651
PRBoom doesn't play friendly.

My map for the "space castle" project should nearly be ready for playtesting. The only major issues you should run into are this bridge-over-bridge likely needing tweaks by the project manager (I'm having issues with it lowering to the absolute lowest floor when it should only lower to the pathway, but it DOES work correctly. Additionally; alignments.

>>4457851
Not being able to change height of an actor in-game

>>4457915
I wanna say you can do this with ZScript by changing self.height, but I didn't bother testing it enough to check for CHILLING CONSEQUENCES like stuff getting stuck inside a growing actor or whatever.

>>4457926
my actor is growing right now

>>4457928
lmao

>>4457863
>Would be cool to have the automap and other data on one screen, could open up cool potential for mods. Like, have Psychic, Guncaster, D4D etc have their shops on one screen or something. Lithium could go nuts.

Imagine connecting a tablet as your second monitor and using menus WiiU-/Switch-style.

>>4457931
I don't think there's really much in the way of modern standards for "second-screen" stuff in non-casual games after all the initial attempts at it either flopped (Wii U) or superflopped (Xbox Smartglass etc.) I believe Intel was working on a second-screen system for Deus Ex Human Revolution Directors Cut on PC, but I don't think it ever got released because it was announced roughly three seconds before people stopped caring.

>>4457909
Aforementioned issue. Any fixes?

>>4457676
uh oh, who found your porn folder

>>4457676
That's what happens when you raise the gamma.

>>4457358
Why haven't I heard/seen this before? is this part of the game?

>>4457972
Yse, it's an easter egg of the help screen

>>4457640
Same, except for the Unreal Tournament series. Now heaps and heaps of community made stuff is just gone, lost to the void.

>>4457851
No option to turn off autoaim in Boom. I prefer to play with mouselook and I can't stand autoaim.

>>4457851
Light coronas that are rendered on top of the scene, visibility and scale based on camera position.

>>4457931
So basically like a Nintendo DS

>>4457956
Not sure what I did to fix it, but it's done. Now to do the cyber and spider fights

>>4457991
are you talking about gzdoom's boom / boom strict compatibility mode or actual boom?

>>4458032
Actual boom

>>4458059
this was fixed last month in pr+
http://sprunge.us/YLjD?diff

>>4458019
Cyber fight is ready to go. Oh, and there's voodoos. The fight is entirely possible but difficult, considering you can be killed if the voodoos are.

>>4458090
you literally cannot go without bringing attention to yourself, huh

>>4458014
You can do that with a fragment shader anon.

>>4457851
I don't know if it's been denied or nobody has the desire to program it, but I wish we could have baked-in static lighting like Quake. Shadows of the Nightmare Realm was a bit choppy for me and there'd have been significantly less processing if the lights had been baked in.

>>4458126
I think we could get that eventually. Anway AFAIK the issue is that every sector can have its floor and ceiling move up and down through line triggers and scripts, which would bork up baked lighting.

>>4458115
>fragment shader
I have no idea what you're talking about, but it doesn't seem like you could.

>>4457851
Cylindrical collision

Time for enemy placement.
To get euthanized.
I am ready.

>>4458148
You can do that in zscript actually.Check Cooke's post in the Script Library sub forum (or maybe it was Tutorials).

>>4458136
Oh yeah. I suppose with some trial and error the engine could keep dynamic lights for sectors it expects to have trouble with.

>>4458152
I saw the script thread! Brilliant, but..
>this does not work with level geometry (walls, floors, ceilings, etc). Sorry, but there's no way around that. This is actors only.
>There are plenty of caveats to using this -- sliding along actors for one goes down the toilet, mostly. You'll have to come up with your own bouncing algorithm of things that impact it.
>The actor's box is still a square, and is still AABB. You are only changing collision with other actors.

Fuck.

It keeps happening. This years cacowards have really turned into a spectacle.

>>4458175
You might just be able to work around some of those things with horrible hacks, depending what you specifically want to do. Otherwise yeah, physics is one department that has been rather neglected in the engine. I think there's a lot of hard coded assumptions and such in the original source code that makes changes to this a pain in the ass to implement.

What do you want to do anon?

>>4458184
>put GZDoom on indefinite hiatus
Noooooooooooooooooo

>>4458184
>i'll put gzdoom on indefinite hiatus
we know he won't do it, the massive pussy.

>>4458184
How did he miss the point that much?

>>4458184
how did people reply to him in the forum?

>>4458203
the post was split off into the graveyard board

>>4458207
From what thread?

>>4458214
the main lilith thread

>>4458184
>mfw this is the face of the most popular and robust sourceport for Doom
How could this happen?

>>4458184
>GZDOOM on hiatus
>implying this is a bad thing

>>4458243
you'd be able to make a mod, and it would still work next week. or even next month

>>4458251
just make mods for zandronum, then you never have to worry about version updates

>>4458261

>>4458261
>just make mods for zandronum
point taken, but i'd rather not.

>>4458261
hahahahahahahahahaha

>>4458243
>GZDoom netplay would never have a chance of not being shitty if development stopped
>But it means Zandybam could possibly catch up in several years

>>4458273
What about skull tag?

>>4458276
Are you pulling my leg or did you wake up from a coma

>>4458278
I certainly did not wake up from a coma. I mean, How do we know for sure that Skulltag won't have any more official updates?

>>4458285
you might as well be asking if doom 3 is gonna get dlc any time soon.

>>4457884

the perfect dark bots are randomly scaled to add variety, but you have no control over it

>>4458184
>What do you want to do anon?
Just have cylindrical actors pretty much. would make corners and diagonal linedefs easier to navigate, more consistent hit detection with hitscan (admittedly at a loss) and projectiles (less explosives blowing up in your face from clipping a wall), and let larger monsters like Mancubi and Masterminds fit in spaces better.

Thinking about it though, cylindrical geometry collision would break a *lot* of maps, so it's for the best I guess. (unless I was making a TC anyway)

>>4457851
a total rewrite of the game for bsp support

>>4458286
it had one 8 years after release

>>4458184
How strange that he didn't kick up a fuss when Erkattäññe got first page.

>>4458184
Oh lord, his ass anguish nourishes me.
Someone should make a map based on a salt mine in honor of his savaged posterior.

>>4458334
that's not dlc, that's an updated re-release, and it came out 5 years ago anyways.

>>4458184
GZDoom updates invariably break mods anyway, I don't know who he thinks is clamouring for an update every couple of months.
I use an older version and it works just fine for the mods I like to play.

>>4458420
It doesn't have to be this way. At the end of the day it's just software and what priorities a project chooses shapes how it works. Graf's priorities are not smooth, reliable transition.

>>4458427
>It doesn't have to be this way.
it never has to be, Anon.

>>4458420
I must admit I actually really like most of the new features. Especially the scriptification of a lot of previously hard-coded things.

I reaaally like the virtual function override thing for actors, like CanCollideWith, DamageMobj etc.

Only had a feature I used break in a new version once (the move to the new GL renderer). I'm still slightly sad about it because it still can't be done.

>>4457563
>>4457571
Technically that post was thread related
Considering that there is a Dio mod
And JoJo is retro (it exists since late 80s)
And so you can have Dio running around at the speed of Doomguy

>>4458184
Kill this fucking subhuman.

>>4458184
My new year wish this year would be that someone proficient would get fed up with Graf's bullshit and forks GZDoom into something better.

>>4458492
Port it to webASM so that you could just click any wad and play it in your browser

>>4458184
There is one thing he's right about though
lilith really should have gotten a separate cacoaward made specifically for it.
Like "exploiting glitches in the best way" award

>>4458537
Part of me thinks its only there to spite Graf.
But the same part finds this very amusing.

>>4458184
>>4458215
It's not there, in either of the threads.

Either it's a shoop or he deleted the post.
>>4458541
It's only there because Rachel fucked up in screwing the original thread to please Graf and pissed off a lot of the other moderators.

>>4458553
It got moved to Hall of Unpleasantness. It should be at the top.

>>4458553
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=58738

>>4458560
Ah, TY.

Archives for not letting him forget it:
http://archive.is/Jr4mu
https://web.archive.org/web/20171213171430/https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=58738

>>4458553
No, I meant that part of me thinks it only got a Caco to annoy Graf. And I'm totally fine with it.

>>4458574
You should also check the Doomworld thread on the cacowards.

>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98246-cacowards-2017-discussion-24-years/?do=findComment&comment=1824615

The fuck is this shit
Is doomworld becoming a doom-cenered offshoot of reddit?

>>4458580
No, it's a genuinely good mod and Term put it very well in his writeup of why it's good.

That probably made Graf even more sore really, he can't even say it was done to spite him.

>>4458618
I don't understand what I'm reading here.

>>4458623
agreed 100%

it truly deserved its award and it was a legitimately fun mapset

the spite is real fuckin nice, though

>>4458618
>>4458628
What I meant is "this is a popular post" heart mark and "11 people liked this"
Since when is that relevant on a forum?

>>4458642
It's unfortunately a fairly common forum feature. I hate it too. I don't go to DW however.

>>4458642
oh, yeah
that's dumb but whatev

>>4458649
Well, I actually only go to like 3 or 4 forums, one of them being a torrent tracker forum, one ZDoom forum and the other 2 are unimportant, so that's actually the first time I've seen a feature like this on a forum.

>>4458630
Not gonna lie, the spite is nice, but Anotak put an incredible amount of effort into getting it right and it shows, or at least it shows for the people who are capable of grasping what it is, rather than assuming it's creepypasta or going apeshit about it using ZDoom and not supporting GZDoom.

What did La Tailor Girl mean by this?

>>4458642

I had karma points enabled in an simple machine forum way back in 2003

the funny thing was that you could not only add points but also remove them, and that's how everyone ended up in a karmic war that left everyone with negative karma points

it was fun to look at the log to see who hated whom

>>4458642
that came in with the new forum software. i also am not a fan of it. at least the total counts have been hidden

>>4458653
>>4458668

this feature is old as fuck btw

https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Karma

>>4458667
LUST obviously.
Says so on the left.

I feel like awards should be split into vanilla, limit removing and advanced engines.

Maybe if the golden boners ever take off...

>>4458691
agreed but split by mapping feature, not limit removal. vanilla features only / boom features only / advanced (gzdoom) features.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/745340/Super_Meat_Shooter/

It's almost like we're going back to the time when shitty garage studios were ripping off Doom but not quite managing it and coming out with some ungodly knockoff hybrid of Doom and Wolf3D with shitty assets.

I nearly miss Nerves of Steel now.

I've been told that you can now make a laser-
controlled rocket and remote controlled explosives with ZScript now.
How the hell do I do it? Never understood how ACS implementations worked.

>>4458667
gotta be a little kinky sometimes

Hey what a new WAD for either Ultimate DOOM or DOOM 2 if made by /trash/?

>>4458767
*would

>>4458740
You can do that in normal decorate too actually.

Much easier in zcript. What you do is call a LineAttack function. This function returns an actor pointer to the puff actor you specified, which you store in either the weapon or the player. You set this as the tracer (for example) of your rocket, then simply call A_FaceTracer repeatedly.

Term, are you gonna have podcast about Cacowards in any time soon?

>>4458783
Oh, and then you need to re-apply thrust in the new direction on the rocket after each A_FaceTracer call. Sorry, forgot about that.

>>4458783
>>4458785
That sounds much easier than ACS one, thanks!
What about remote grenades? And camera-on rocket control (like Redeemer altfire in UT'99).

Another idea I wanted to implement is "trajectory" mode - launch camera-on-a-rocket ride, press a special button in the beginning, the flight trajectory gets recorded, all subsequent shots follow the same trajectory (like if you made the rocket take a turn left, then a turn right, then every subsequent rocket fired in that mode would also make a turn left then a turn right, etc.), then when they reach the end point, they home in at the target in ~25degree cone in front of them.

Obviously, all that as a gimmicky additional firing mode. I'm juggling around an idea of a Heretic-inspired fantasy weapon mod right now, to make as a practice to get into the moding and learn as I go. Every Heretic weapon mod I've seen so far felt really incomplete, at least not to the point of "complete" as, say High Noon Drifter or Trailblazer, with many weapons not really filing their niches, or being awkward and unsatisfying to use, so I want to try and make my own spin on them.
I want every weapon to have switchable main and alt fires (meaning there's several options for each, and you can combie them individually), each weapon having 1-2 sort-of-traditional firing modes and some fun gimmicks you can use, or refrain from using if you don't like them.

I can write up the ideas I have now if you want (I dislike some of them and some outside input may fix that)

>bleed out from high damage
>about to patch up
>everyone around me stands back the fuck up as I attempt to bandage
there has to be some sort of system for this because it's fucking awful every time.

>>4458804
>What about remote grenades?
For this you'd make an actor array on the gun. Each grenade you throw gets stored in the next step in the array, and when you pop them with altfire or whatever you simply iterate through the array and "kill" each grenade. You probably want a variable that keeps track of how many you've thrown as well.

By the way, to reach a variable on a gun through a projectile you do this (assuming the player is the Target of the projectile as is usual)

int MyValue;
let wpn = MyWeaponName (target.player.readyweapon)
if(wpn) //always check to avoid crashes if the pointer doesn't exist for some reason
{
MyValue= wpn.MyCustomGunVariable;
}

Also you can prefix function calls with a pointer or even a chain of pointer to run that function on someone other than the calling actor

like target.master.A_Explode(...);

>>4458784

Yup. We recorded E2M9 day before yesterday.

>too dumb to understand Zscript
>no documentation
>have to resign to DECORATE if I wanted to do anything
>even though Zscript is just roided DECORATE as far as I understood
>still do not know what exactly the differences are

Can I get some help remembering a specific mod? I forget what it was called, but I remember a few major details:

1. The main monster involved was humanoid, with a vertical slit for a mouth, and would roar if it saw you. Maybe there was a Slenderman easter egg, but it never did anything but vanish. Also a boss, maybe.

2. There were no weapons, or if there were, they were useless; if you encountered the monster, you had to RUN.

3. The level was huge, and sprawling, with lots of interconnected paths; some form of abandoned/slaughtered UAC base.

4. There was a log system, and part of your potential actions was finding all the logs. While avoiding the monster.

5. The map ended with the player after a boss fight? discovering the whole base's mapping system, as if about to open up a giant bit of exploration in this place.

Can anyone else remember this mod?

>>4458823
What?

>>4458854

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35879
Was this it? Some of it sounds familiar.

>>4458823
use nearby doors to crush bodies if you can

>>4458853
A hell of a lot of the Zscript use I've seen has been replicating what decorate already did, except with the built in engine version check.

I'd understand if it refused for major versions but when it demands 3.2.3 for a mod that any version beyond 3.0 will run it, it's just an annoyance that smells very much like Graf's personal ego problems.

>>4458853
The main difference is that you can actually write functions that are functions, instead of a dirty hack upon a dirty hack that occupy 20 times the space. Like a remote projectile and grenade examples from before - those require somewhat lengthy ACS scripts to make shit done, but it seems that they are much easier to implement in ZScript.

I still did not udnerstood the grenade example before. I dont't really need many grenades at once - only one, launched by altfire, detonated by the next altfire, no need to make it more complex.

>>4458864
That should be it, actually. Thank you!

>>4458706
Agreed, but there are advanced engines outside gzdoom

>>4458590
>Graf Zahl said:
>So, sorry. The Cacowards have just become like the Oscars, where true quality no longer matters and the main deciding factor is good promotion to make one's project visible in the eyes of the ones who decide and playing to their known tastes?

>yfw Graf turns into an acolyte of You Know Who and insists that the Doominati is real

>>4458853
>no documentation
That is only really true for the really complex sub-features of zscript. Normal monsters aren't any harder than decorate. Or less documented really.

>>4458878
>I dont't really need many grenades at once - only one, launched by altfire, detonated by the next altfire, no need to make it more complex.
Hey, you didn't specify. I thought you wanted basically the satchel charges from Half Life which work as I said.

Anyway, what you'd do if you only want one is use a normal actor variable rather than an actor array. At the start of the fire state, you check if your actor variable (lets call it "GrenadePointer") is null or not like so:

Altfire:
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIf(invoker.grenadepointer, "ExplodeGrenade");
SHTG A 1 [grenade shooting function here)
goto ready;

ExplodeGrenade:
TNT1 A 0
{
if(invoker.grenadepointer)
{
invoker.grenadepointer.A_Die();
}
}
goto ready;

>>4458847
awwww yissss

>>4458889
>Guy makes an engine that has ease of modding as one of its most prominent "selling points"
>someone makes a mod that showcases the knowledge of all the little tricks and bugs in the ports predecessor
>Guy is hypersalty that someone actually gone and used the engine features, and twisted them in a way nobody had anticipated, and that was very hard to pull off
This is just ridiculously bizzare to me, and nobody else seems to notice how bizzare it is. He should be proud instead that somebody took so much investment into studying how the engine works so they could pull off something like this.


>>4458894
TY, I get it now :D

>>4458886
true but how many of them get enough releases per year that they wouldn't just win their category by default?

fuck. I tried to get critique on this oc in that dead-on-arrival stub thread. Just my luck.

>>4458938
that's cool. i like the dithering

>>4458938
Nice
Who are you, anyway?

>>4456943
>>4458938
Next thread's image plz OP

That's amazing. The dithering is Amiga-like hella sweet.

>>4458947
that's a rude question on an anonymous imageboard

>>4458938
post the wips here too

I made a thread that seems to have stagnated so I'll ask here; Have any of you guys watched much machina made with Retro FPS games? I've devoured all of the Lenny & Lumberjack series and I've just finished The Seal of Nehahra, a four hour movie that's meant to offer a "plot" for the original Quake as well as the eponymous gameplay mod that follows it.

>>4458659

>>4458950
I just thought it was DrDySpy, because he also made a building based off KNITD's intermission screen and the Meta Spidermaster, so that image's style looked familiar

>>4458919
Graf gets immensely butthurt when people don't suggest using the very latest version of GZDoom.

Lilith doesn't just use only ZDoom, it blocks playing on GZDoom because it kills the engine three levels in.

Fuck knows why he takes this shit so personally but he can't let it go, threatening devs left and right and permanently losing his shit about Lilith.

>>4458930
That's why I would just leave it at "advanced" and not be port specific. Maybe you meant that too, but the (gzdoom) implied otherwise to me.

Anyway... Just seems like a better way to organize it in general.

>>4458992
i see. i just put that in as an example of what i meant by "advanced". sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>4458983
At least he doesn't have moderator abilities on ZDF anymore. I think it was the time that he deleted one of Xaser's posts supporting anotak that convinced the mods there that it was time to pull the plug on that privilege.

>>4459027
He still basically gets away with anything, he shat up two map threads because he was personally butthurt and all the mods did was split his and other people's posts off into the shame box.

>Ratchet and Clank mod for Doom
I guess PlayStation based mods will be something now, i guess
Now i wonder who would be enough of a madman to replicate Gravity Rush in Doom

>>4458947
I'm Plutonia from the Thief general. I mostly use the Windows XP version of MS Paint for my drawings. I only use Photoshop when there's something that's easy to do with Paint but takes 200x less time with PS.
>>4458953
here ya go

>>4459070
>Ratchet and Clank mod for Doom
I'd never heard of this before, but my first thought was, "of course, they'll be using bad rips from the FPS camera view introduced in Going Commando or Up Your Arsenal."

WELP.

new doom

>>4459092
Why's it so washed out?

>>4459095
prolly a white screen of death

>>4459070
I wonder if that would be possible? First off, you don't have full six-degrees-of-freedom in Doom, so that aspect is a non-starter. A zero-gravity map, run some ACS/ZScript wizardry to pull you towards linedefs/enemies...? It's probably doable, but I don't think it'd be any fun to play.

>>4459095
Clearly he was running it in ZDaemon.

Is there any easy way to make an enemy attack like slow down the player's movement speed by like 25% to 50% for like the duration of 10 tics or so?

>>4459070

>>4459070
What next? Silent Bomber? Ape Escape? Omega Boost?

>>4459092
thats just one doom though

>>4459123
>Ape Escape
That reminds me: there's this link with textures from the game, that could be used for maps, if anyone would like to use it
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=15684

>>4459123
probably
red faction2 for z&
perfect dark
killzone
timesplitters

wish i could make this new doom game bigger

made this game years ago i just graduated hs

used to make hundreds of doom 2d games in middle school dont mean nothing now what a waste of life

>>4459129
That's actually pretty neat, I guess it'd be chasing imps and cacos with the light thing on their head.

>>4459143
Doom2D is still a thing?

>>4459152
it was to me

>>4459134
>>4459137
>>4459143
nice work dude
gives off a heavy out there somewhere/cave story vibe

>>4459098
Actually, Gutawer has made a mod-side quaternion rotation function for zscript that does in fact make 6DOF possible. He hasn't released it yet though. The guy even posted a vid of Descent-movement on map01.

>>4459186
do you have a link?

>>4459123
I'm still adamant that Swat Kats would make for an amazing GZDoom TC. The high contrast visual style, the music, the 90's XXTREME designs. Missions split between tacticool FPS segments and flying the jet.

>>4459197
Nope. Only posted in the zdoom discord as far as I know.

What's some nice general texture packs out there?

jfc, this thread is at least a day old now.

I know these threads tend to last a while, but damn, this is ridiculous.

Anyone knows what happened to that Deadly Kiss reconstruction project? It's been ages since I heard anything from that.

>>4459219
When the community for an old game is partly made up of content creators, there's always a hell of a lot to talk about. That's part of why most other threads on /vr/ either:

A) Hit ten posts and fall off the board
B) Deliberately start out as or inevitably become shitpost central.

These games are twenty-plus years old and everything that can be said *has* been said, a million times, because they are, for the most part, static product, outside of romhacks mainly.

>>4459204
>flying the jet.
hori/verti SHMUP, or cockpit perspective?

>>4459219
This is /vr/.
Some threads last for a month or more. /vr/doom is actually the most active one, and we often have 2 - one that hit the bump limit and lingers at page 8-9 before getting wiped, and another one active.

>>4458938
the brushes/colors (and maybe something else?) gives it a nice late-era amiga feel, great job

>>4459238
Should be easy to make a semi-open top down shooter where your craft is always at the bottom of the screen, and the world rotates around you. Then you go to the hotspots and "land" to enter FPS missions.

>>4457670
Verticality was more of a Quake thing.

>>4457792
To be honest, the Q2 SSG does feel pretty damn powerful.

Have you helped Duke saved Christmas today?

>>4459251
Well, the Q1 SSG is kinda weak, but that might be because I'm using it outside of ass-touching range, and shotties in that game are shit in general.

>>4459070
I want Sir Daniel Fortescue in GMOTA.

>>4458618
>>4458642
I don't really know.

At least it's not in your face enough to be distracting, in fact, I only noticed it once you pointed it out

>>4459204
The Woolball mods are already a good amount of the way there with some of those themes, so it probably would work.

>>4459186
>>4459207
I remember pre-Zscript there as a minimod that could do Descent-like flight, but it was a bit odd and nobody really picked it up as a thing to run with.

>>4459254
feminists lol

>>4459123
>Omega Boost?
Make it so

>>4456945
New wadhost by doomkid released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/89193-doomshackorg-wad-hosting-multiplayer-server-cluster/
http://doomshack.org/

>>4459256
And the Q1 shotgun is your pistol-like starting weapon. Do the math.

>>4459256
>shotties in that game are shit in general.
The Q1 shotgun is your starting weapon, of course it's gonna be weak. It's stronger than Doom's god-awful pistol, but weaker than Doom's shotgun, and is longer-ranged than the latter to boot due to its tight spread allowing you to use it as a midrange hitscan weapon (given that your only hitscan weapons period are the shotgun, SSG, and the cell-devouring Thunderbolt).

>>4459238
Cockpit perspective or third person.

Like this old thing I made except with actual physics and 6DOF

I stole all the rocket ammo!

>>4459291
Give it back!

>>4459291
Where do all the cybie's rockets come from, anyways?

>>4459285
As far as starting weapons go, the Quake shotgun is pretty fantastic. Shame I can't say the same about the melee weapon.

>>4459291
I love this artblog. they all look so fucking cute.

>>4459289
Oh shit I remember this. What happened to it?

>>4458709
>All that pillow shading

>>4459297
What old id fps DID have a good melee weapon, though? It's almost silly that Quake was supposed to be centered around melee combat and instead you get the piddly axe.

At least it serves a purpose in opening doors and pushing buttons without having to waste ammo, though, given you don't have a +use key to interact with things.

>>4458667
If this mod had visible clothing damage and worried voice lines I wouldn't be able to control my self.

>>4459285
Whenever I want to do anything outside of any reasonable range for even the rocket launcher, this thing is pretty much my go-to.

IMO, this is better than doom, because it's not only useful, but it doesn't get replaced by another weapon which can achieve the exact same thing, but a lot faster.

>>4459305
I'd consider Duke's mighty boot pretty useful.

>>4459308
>IMO, this is better than doom, because it's not only useful, but it doesn't get replaced by another weapon which can achieve the exact same thing, but a lot faster.
That honor goes to the nailgun instead.

>>4459310
That was developed by 3D realms, though.

>>4459305
the doom chainsaw is pretty useful if you wanna cockblock pain elementals without wasting ammo. does the berserked fist count?

>>4459312
> honor

I almost want to make a quake mod that makes the super nailgun do something different. Like maybe speed up the first nailgun nails so that the SN can take a CQC role... wait

>>4459313
Oh sorry, missed the id part.

Well, I suppose at least in Doom you have the option to increase your melee capabilities in different ways.

unpopular opinion

all FPS games would become inherently more fun to play if their weapon switching speed was faster

>>4459318
Not unpopular, considering that TF2's Axetinguisher was nerfed to the ground via slower switch speed.

>>4459305
Berserk is still pretty good, Chainsaw staggerlocks shit.

>>4459318
That and fun movement, I reckon.

>>4459308
Yeah, that's one of the things I like most about Quake's weapon selection- while it's true the super nailgun follows the same flaw of directly replacing the normal nailgun once you get it, the two shotguns are always useful and the slight damage increase of the double barrel doesn't always make up for the extra-wide spread, meaning the single barrel is always reliable for taking out anything weaker than an Ogre, especially Scrags who love floating around just far enough away that the SSG is too wide to hit them and nails won't reach before they dodge them.

>>4459312
Shame about that, but both nailguns feel so good to use I'll let it slide.

>>4459318
Good thing Quack has instant weapon switch, then. Can't get much faster than that!

>>4459318
HUH it, brother.

>>4459327
I love Quakes movement. Being able to travel at light speed because you rounded a corner feels really good.

>>4458709
Nah. Most modern games trying for that "retro fps" feel are pretty good. Not as good, but still fun.

This game's case is a different problem with Steam. The "we allow literally fucking anything on steam, and then they sell it in shitty indiegala bundles and make profits anyways"

>>4459302
Two things: I had one of those half-year periods of less than zero motivation, and I kinda figured out doing something of the complexity in that project for zandronum wasn't feasible. Focusing on Doomshock V2 and Impulse now that I have motivation again.

Post covers of DOOM music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8dLu1bercQ

>>4459332
What was the hiccup in Zandybam that impeded progress?

>>4459318
quake 2 would greatly benefit from that.

>>4459338
My only real problem with Q2 is the lack of muzzle flashes. Did Carmack and his crew think that colored lightning would replace it or what?

>>4459318
i can't imagine that being an unpopular opinion
faster weapon switching means more weapons are worth using as you. i can kill a guy up close with a shotgun, then quickly switch to a pistol and kill someone farther away

>>4458938
>>4459074
>made in MSPaint
fucking hell
amazing

>>4459123

I would kill for Silent Bomber.

>>4459345
>Did Carmack and his crew think that colored lightning would replace it or what?
Probably yes, given id's own GLQuake port of Q1 had an option to disable muzzle flashes and the light effect on the environment and replace it with the awful, awful screen-tinting and level-not-lighting flashblend setting.

>>4459345
Coloured lighting was the brand new thing, it had to be in everything.

>>4459347
looks like grayscale to me.

>>4459338
the slow and sluggish vibe everything in quake 2 gives off extends way beyond just the guns themselves.

>>4459294
teleportation technology harnessed by hell that warps them right into the gun

same way doomguy can fit all his guns & ammo on his person at once

>>4459294
teleported into the gun from a stockpile

>>4459219
wow, a whole day!!!

>>4459350
Any way to activate that in Quakespasm, just for curiosity's sake?

>>4459367
gl_flashblend 1 is the command you're looking for.

>>4459372
To be specific, it doesn't actually get rid of the muzzleflash itself (because that's part of the model), but instead of lighting up the area around the person firing, it just makes this weird orange orb. You can test it yourself with any weapon, as they all light stuff up equally, especially the nailguns so you notice there's no aura of light on the ground around you, and then hop into e1m1 and notice how the Grunts don't light up the level geometry when they shoot.

>>4459372
>>4459375
Alright, thanks.

>>4459258
Dan would be a fun addition, not gonna lie. He has a lot of cool weapons and is generally a very likable guy.
That and he's a skeleton in armor, that's rad

>>4459337
That literally everything is such a hassle with acs/decorate. Also, the lack of the floatification gzdoom has that implies increased precision and doubled max level size.

It will simply have to wait until GZDoom has client/server (which is actually in the works, if at an early stage). I've got more than enough work to fill the time with the other two projects.

>Adrian Carmack is an anagram for Dark Car Maniac

>>4459413
Holy shit.

>>4459413
also

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