/vr/ - Retro Games

Speedrunning is cancer

>>4454993
this.

>tfw no Super Metroid this year

>>4455016
Super Metroid is the Smash Bros. Melee of speedrunning. it's a solved game and we're sick of seeing it.

>>4455016
Didn't the last race end up becoming a regular run because the other 3 dudes died? Embarrassing desu.

I'd like to see Tomb Raider make a comeback. So far all we've had is 2 and anniversary.

>>4455132
This, and Perfect Dark.

aren't these speedrun events just tranny drama nowadays

>>4455169
Yes, NASA Marathon and RPG Limit Break are cool though

>>4455169
GDQ, yes. All the cool kids go to NASA now though.

Speedrunning is for faggots.

>>4454993
>>4455002
>>4455202
get a load of these casual soyboys that dont know their favourite games inside-out and so cant replay them quickly and flawlessly

>>4455208
Get a load of this cancerous faggot.

>>4455208
>here's a glitch at the title screen that will wrong warp to credits
>aaaaaand got it, time
>LOL GOOD PROGRAMMING RIIIIIIIIGHT

>>4455208
>get a load of these casual soyboys that dont know their favourite games inside-out and so cant replay them quickly and flawlessly
>expecting this from /vr/
>implying /vr/ isn't just a circle-jerk for epeen collectors who don't actually play the games they own
goofed

Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3
Ninja Gaiden 2
Super Punch Out
Donkey Kong Country 2
Mega Man X2

I'm usually only interested in AGDQ for the entertainment value of awkward moments and live fails. I think they should stick to retro gaming. It's ruined by all the people "speedrunning" recent gen games that take 4 hours to beat "quickly".

>>4455219
fuck off cancerous faggot

>>4455208
>autistically plays game for hundreds of hours to memorize a sequence of button presses in order to completely skip everything that makes the game good

>>4455213
>>4455356
This is why skipless exists.

Super Metroid, SotN and Dragon's Trap. I find metroidvanias the funnest to speedrun due to sequence breaking and such.

>>4455016
dumb frog poster

I've checked out the list and I'm not interested in any game there. They repeat the games that are run way too much.

>>4454991
I'm good at Mario 3 and Super Metroid (Only the first half) and I can beat Zero The Kamikaze Squirrel pretty quick without dying.

Fuck off to /v/ with your shit

Get HOYPE haha xD

>>4454991
PREFER

I made a speedrun of the Saturn version of Exhumed/Powerslave. Optimized bomb jumping to pretty much the max of its potential and also found new tricks like helping yourself with enemies/sprites and explosions to make jumps you're not supposed to. Sprites/enemies push you back when you're on top of them and when that happens you can't jump, so it's not quite as simple as you'd expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nfxUZqHWcw

I'd like to see... the DOS version of the game, like Tekwar it has a glitch which allows you to travel SUPER fast with the mouse, and tons of sequence breaking possibilities. Nobody cares about that game so it's not going to happen unless I do it.

>>4454991
speedrunning is not for me. But I do enjoy to watch some

>>4455036
Seeing how many of the runners fucking blow it on Phantoon each year was the fun part of the run though.

>>4454991
I beat SMW in 15 minutes using some glitchless strats. I was reading my buddy in that game for a little while which was a lot of fun.

I also like to show friends the 3 minute run of LttP as a party trick, because people just plain don't believe you when you tell them you can start a new file and get to the credits in 3 minutes

>>4455871
Neat, always cool to see someone invent their own routes and tricks instead of just copying them.

>>4455192
>>4455193
The ESA (European Speedrunner Assembly) was pretty decent, and donators got the announcer girl to say 'cum is so fucking good':

clips twitch tv/SpoopyMiniatureGiraffeVoteNay

>>4454991
Basically I'm looking forward to any runs by these fine fellows:

Toad22484
TheMexicanRunner
darbian
angrylanks
Aquas
EndySWE
dxtr
WhiteHat94
whitman_price_

Give them a follow on twitch.

>>4454991
>What retro games are you good at speedrunning, /vr/?
I'm not good at any of them, but I'm working on getting my time down in Super Metroid and learning Metroid II. Once I have a decent time in those I'll probably do Pokemon Red for a bit, or maybe try to route out some lesser-known games I like. Not really interested in chasing records, but speedrunning "casually" is pretty fun.

>What retro games are you looking forward to see at the upcoming AGDQ '18?
Looking forward to MetroidMcFly's NEStroid run. He's a cool dude. Also bjw's Umihara Kawase run and the SMW race.

>>4455016
SM really needed a break, and none of the top runners were going to be there anyway.

I got to watch zfg1 's run. (oot hundo)

bump

>>4457045
Aquas is live now doing some Ghosts 'n Demons ultimate challenge runs

>>4455208
get a load of this

>>4459058
I hate aquas' fat face and gay lisp.

>ZOE is in the lineup
I fucking love ZOE.

The only game I GO FAST in though is GTA:SA. I just like the driving model and do the races over and over. It's a shame I can't talk about it elsewhere, though, people are all psychos who chimp out at the drops of hats.

>>4455213
>>4455356
>anti-glitch autists are so stupid they don't understand the concept of categories in speedrunning yet.

>>4459770
>people who think segemented runs are to allow you to go for dinner or take pee breaks or whatever
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

that said i get pissy at people who think a game breaking glitch being found in a 20 year old game makes the game bad. How about you pay for 20+ years of QA before releasing anything, faggot? It's a wonder it didn't fucking hard lock instead of letting you assign entire levels to buttons or whatever. It's a wonder of programming that all these old nintendo games don't just brick with how hard they get abused. NSA analysts would be jealous of the furvor of modern speedrunners' codebreaking skills.

I wish I were good at LTTP and games like it because Tompa's explanations of how it works are FASNTNIG but I'm just not goot enough at LTTP to make it relevant to me, nor can I go play around glitchhunting myself.

>>4455208
I honestly really and truly love the source engine, but I'm not good at bunnyhopping or ABHing or surfing. I wish I could help bring times down with what little knowledge I have, but what little I know relates more to AI behaviours and rendering and shit like that, things that literally don't matter to anyone at all anymore. And not to a degree where it'd help a modder, either. I just really like level design and am very familiar with the base content. Not useful stuff. I mean, I understand how triggers align and stuff, but how they actually align in released content isn't so theoretical, it's up to how it was done by whatever level designer made that level. Kinda like why some levels require gordon, others require the airboat, others require gordon *in* the airboat, others are on timers.

Plus, HL2 running is all save warping and sharking, so fuck it. And it's not even really retro, so I guess it doesn't belong in this board.

>>4454993
but it raises money for cancer?

>>4459841
Exactly, it gives cancer money.

>>4455213
name one (1) game that does this

>>4459851
Of course that was an exaggeration but you get the point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-HVIoSpV9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0Bc8hl1C0
And the infamous GanonDOOR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AVFdMSPHPk

>>4459851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iv9mA3oJLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-0Yiff9wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24XHkmOJebA

>>4459851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jxc3l1LC4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVnPAFmH678 (Personal favorite)

>>4459776
This isn't always true. Some games have had their game-breaking glitches found around release.
http://earthboundcentral.com/2011/06/mother-1-in-monotone/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GaYFTe22KI

>>4459856
>>4459868
>>4459887
Thing is, those runs are mostly for laughs and aren't really that competitive (with the exception of OoT, but even with Ganondoor that run is still over 17 minutes long). Each of those games has much longer categories as well, and that's where the real competition happens.

Point being, there's a lot more to speedrunning than just silly glitches and exploits.

>>4459903
>muh name one game that does it meme
>THAT'S NOT THE POINT YOU DON'T GET IT

>>4459905
>muh name one game that does it meme
I'm not even the one who posted that, idiot.

>>4459903
https://www.speedrun.com/smb3#Any
You're minimizing the situation too much, but yes people tend to go for categories which cover more of the game.

>>4459903
I thought that war particularly evident when watching the Doom 2016 speedrun, most of the run is jumping out of bounds and clipping over walls and avoiding all of the combat.
And yes that was the most competitive category not some meme run.

Meh.

>>4459431
no,
i can't believe this

>>4459916
True, speedruns of modern games tend to be shit. Much like modern games are in general.

>>4455208
Theres a difference between crushing your favorite game and speedrunning.

Knowing youre favorite game well and replaying it quick is fine. It's a perfectly acceptable thing to do.

Speedrunning is a party trick. "Oh, did you know you can warp to the final boss in Ocarina of Time?". That's a cool thing.

What's not a cool thing, is grinding attempts so you can "improve" your PB/WR by a second. That's a waste of time. I've never seen a speedrunner who is actually enjoying themselves. All of them get mad, flustered, or inevtiably curse the RNG, or say they've never seen something happen before, in 600 fucking attempts, I find that hard to believe.

Speedrunners are also not actually that good at the game. You see it all the time. Many runners fail to adapt to their pre-ordained strategies. Most players don't play niche games or really hard games either, they play ones that are exploitable, with shitloads of documentation on how to speedrun.

Routing is fun, and it's genuinely fun to beat a game fast using some speedrun techiques. Grinding attempts to get a PB is where you cross the line from fun, to work, and I genuinely don't see why anyone does it.

>>4459925
Why do people compete for high scores in arcade games? Or compete at anything else, or play difficult games, or try to do anything at all that requires effort for no tangible gain? Because people enjoy challenges.

>>4459925
Hey look, it's that retard who pretends to understand speedrunning but has no idea how it actually works.
>"Oh, did you know you can warp to the final boss in Ocarina of Time?".
Oh hey, it's that retard who thinks games only have one category, and that people only speedrun because of glitches.
>>Speedrunners are also not actually that good at the game.
Look, it's that retard who thinks the guy who spends 1000 hours on a game isn't good at it, even though you can literally find hundreds examples of them doing things outside of speedruns that are just as impressive, like SM64 freerunning.
>Most players don't play niche games or really hard games either, they play ones that are exploitable, with shitloads of documentation on how to speedrun.
Hey, it's that retard who thinks the difficulty of the speedrun is proportionate to the difficulty of the game in a casual context.
>Grinding attempts to get a PB is where you cross the line from fun, to work, and I genuinely don't see why anyone does it.
Hey, it's that guy who has never played a rhythm or score game and doesn't understand what "arcade style gamplay" means.

>>4460160
>SM64 freerunning
Randomizers and bingo are another good example. The best bingo/rando players are always just the best speedrunners lol.

People who think speedrunners aren't good at their games are insanely fucking stupid.

>>4460160
>only have one category,
Oh this is hilarious too. There are "no glitches allowed" categories but in reality they still majorly glitch the fuck out of the game, it should really be called "some glitches I like are allowed" category.

For example, the no glitches any% category for OoT still super slides, bomb hovers, death cutscene skips all over the place to name a few glitches.

>>4460165
>There are "no glitches allowed" categories but in reality they still majorly glitch the fuck out of the game, it should really be called "some glitches I like are allowed" category.
This is also wrong. When I said that there are different categories, I wasn't referring to glitchless categories.

> the no glitches any% category for OoT still super slides, bomb hovers
You don't get to just make things up, you know.

>>4459841
>but it raises money for cancer?
not anymore, it raises money for doctors without borders who spend it on ships illegally bringing in feral nigger scum from africunt.

>>4460168
Just saying man I like watching speedruns but I also like complaining about them. You're getting too defensive, remember this is 4chan and we like to shit on things we love for giggles.

>>4460172
>Just saying man
Yes, you're "just saying", aka fabricating lies and drawing literal false dichotomies.

>>4460175
You care too much, bro. It's just jokes

>>4460178
Jokes are typically funny or contain some hint of irony, my dude. Your post doesn't fit either of these criterion.

>>4460180
Blahblahblah you reek of butthurt
To be fair they don't actually power slide or bomb hover in the glitchless run, but still abuse a bunch of movement tech that could be considered glitches. All categories are arbitrary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCO9gA3_AwU

>>4460182
Most games don't use the "glitchless" name. They use "no major glitches", which just removes the most game breaking shit, but keeps the fun and interesting tech. It's basically a way to create a category better suited for competition. Super Metroid and A Link to the Past are notable examples of this.

Yes, all categories are arbitrary. And as long as all of the relevant competitors agree on the rules, it doesn't matter that they are.

>>4460182
>movement tech that could be considered glitches
such as?
Do you really think walking backwards should be banned?

>>4460186
I think saving is a major glitch. The player uses it to warp back to kokiri forest/temple of time, it's obviously not intended by the developers and should be banned.

>>4460187
>I think saving is a major glitch.
nice bait, Naegleria

>>4460182
they actually recently split up glitchless into two categories: "Bug Limit", which is the original Japanese name, and literally means "Limited Glitches" and "Glitchless", which adheres to the more traditional sense of the word, although it still uses movement tech and such.

https://www.speedrun.com/oot#Glitchless

bump

Speedrunning is just a weird form of arcade style gaming with an extra "solving the game" community puzzle element.

Nobody who likes shmups or rhythm games or games based around getting a high score has any ground to stand on when criticizing speedrunning for its grindy nature.

>>4462346
Add MMOs to that list, as well as any Diablo style ARPG.

>>4462349
I'm tired of this meme. You cannot compare grinding in these games to playing an arcade game (or even speedrunning), they are different concepts.

The key difference is how in MMOs the entity that progresses is the character in the game and this progress is permanent to the game. While in arcades or speedruns it is the player who gets better an every run starts from scratch, there are no extrinsic game rewards other than just playing better.

Still, some score super players and world record speedrunners run these games to the ground to the point of making it a grinding job devoid of the usual joy while playing. But, even then it's entirely different, you can't just mash your keyboard or mouse and see your character level up, or find a rare drop and feel "satisfied".

In conclusion, don't compare skill based games to progress based games,

>>4462413
>The key difference is how in MMOs the entity that progresses is the character in the game and this progress is permanent to the game.
Sorry, champ, but getting bigger numbers over time doesn't reinvent the concept of mindless grinding.

>>4460187
The developers obviously intended the player to start in kokori forest and the temple of time following a save. I'm not sure how you could call that a glitch by any stretch of the imagination.

>tfw you can't pull off a zip

>>4462413
They are the exact same mechanical skinner boxes shit. Say it's not won't make it true.

>>4462710
>your character's level in an RPG is the same as how good you can play a videogame
not sure if bait

>>4462762
Didn't you know, wanting to enjoy being good at anything except reproducing and working is automatically autism and a skinner box!

twitchtv/zar6565

it's goemon time

>>4455219
No most people do want to austically memorize every fucking inch of the game and all of it's bugs than repeat it the exact same way 100 times. It's more fun and ultimatly a broader test of skill to move onto a new game that features entirly different mechanics and stages.

Somone that can play many games across many different genres at a high skill level is a hell of a lot more impressive (for instance someone that can play strategy games at an expert level while also 1 crediting arcade games).

>>4462763
>skinner box
This is my favorite meme.

>>4462762
I don't know if I'm entirely convinced, you guys hype up that "you are a human save file" but if you stop playing for a week you're gonna lose all muscle memory and skill you've gained.

>>4462346
But scoring is for aspies.

>>4463836
And so is speedrunning.

>>4463830
>Somone that can play many games across many different genres at a high skill level is a hell of a lot more impressive
Noone can do that, though, unless the games are piss easy to play at that level.

People who are actually good at games have to live and breathe that game. The other option is being mediocre at many games.

>>4463832
Devs now straight up use techniques like that to get players addicted to their games. Everything is much more figured out and streamlined with all that market research and focus testing.

>>4454991

pretty good at running CV 3

>>4464283
Speedtrotting

>>4464283
What route/partner?

>>4460160
See this? This shit right here. This is what I mean why I say speedrunning is cancer

>>4454991
based caveman

>>4466463
but who was really in the wrong there?

Do you think anyone will ever beat Arcus's 11:39 in Ninja Gaiden
That game is fucking crazy, one of the most optimized games I've ever seen

>>4467642
Probably not. The thing about short 2d games is that they're piss easy to optimize and have no depth, so it's entirely feasible that a human could achieve a time that can be tied but not beaten.

why do people speedrun jrpgs

>>4467798
Because they like the game and want to challenge themselves further in it.

Same reason anyone speedruns anything.

>>4467798
anything that takes longer than 2 hours just isn't worth it desu

>>4467798
>>4467801
autism

>>4467927
haha autism, amirite? XDDD

get it? autism!! XD

>>4460160
>muh categories
Categories are stupid because most of them are antithetical to actually beating the game as fast as possible, which is speedrunning's entire purpose.

>I'm going to Speedrun Super Metroid
>But I'm going to do it without getting the Ice Beam! NEW CATEGORY BOIS

It's retarded.

>Spend 1000 hours in the game
You want a more indepth argument? Sure.

Look at people who run games like JRPG's. They literally cannot deviate from the route. If they do, they fuck it up and just reset. This is true even for some "technical" runs like Resident Evil 4, where if you mismanage resources, most runners are basically hooped.

If you're playing a game with extremely optimized movement, like SM64 or Super Metroid, then I absolutely agree that these people are realyl good. Your average speedrunner is shit at games though.

>Difficulty of the Speedrun != difficulty of the game in casual context
Sure. Fair enough. Speedruns exploit patterns, and glitches so obviously they're going to abuse the game to the point where it looks like a joke. I just think it's funny how 90% of the speedrunners are playing Nintendo baby shit instead of stuff that would actually be cool to be seen played fast.

>the "arcade comparison" argument
Those games are designed around score. Most games don't have a timer at the end screen.

This is my favorite fallacy, and it's used all the time to handwave away criticism. Speedrunning is a cool thing. What's not cool is sitting there, playing SMB3 for literally 1000 hours so you can get a time that's a fraction of a second faster.

If you enjoyed it, fine, but most people will see that as a colossal waste of time.

Really loved your passive aggressive post btw.

>>4468075
>Categories are stupid because most of them are antithetical to actually beating the game as fast as possible, which is speedrunning's entire purpose.
Almost every contest will include rules to break things up into categories; Look at displacement limits in car races for example.
Categories are only antithetical to an extremely narrow definition of speed running.

>It's retarded.
People enjoy it.

>This is my favorite fallacy, and it's used all the time to handwave away criticism.
That's not what the word "fallacy" means; that's just something you personally don't like.

>Speedrunning is a cool thing. What's not cool is sitting there, playing SMB3 for literally 1000 hours so you can get a time that's a fraction of a second faster.
Some people find that cool.

>most people will see that as a colossal waste of time.
Considering this is a speedrunning thread I'm going to wager that no, most of the people here don't see it as a waste of time.

>>4468075
>Categories are stupid because most of them are antithetical to actually beating the game as fast as possible, which is speedrunning's entire purpose.
But that's not speedrunning's "entire" purpose. This just proves how hollow and brainless your understanding of speedrunning is.
>It's retarded.
No, it's creating a new type of challenge out of a game people love.
>Look at people who run games like JRPG's. They literally cannot deviate from the route. If they do, they fuck it up and just reset. This is true even for some "technical" runs like Resident Evil 4, where if you mismanage resources, most runners are basically hooped.
Yes, the optimal route is risky sometimes and in many games a run cannot be completed if it is deviated from. That's because of the game's design, not player ability.
>I just think it's funny how 90% of the speedrunners are playing Nintendo baby shit instead of stuff that would actually be cool to be seen played fast.
Like what? The Nintendo "baby games" you see being speedrun most often are objectively the most technical and difficult speedgames to optimize at a high level. You have no argument against this.
>Those games are designed around score. Most games don't have a timer at the end screen.
Speaking of fallacies, this is a nice argument from authority. "The devs didn't say you could do it this way, so its fundamental concept is way different lol!."
>What's not cool is sitting there, playing SMB3 for literally 1000 hours so you can get a time that's a fraction of a second faster.
Literally noone does this. No, really, this scenario is completely made up by you. 1000 hours is closer to the total amount of time the average top speedrunner puts into a game from scratch, meaning they improve by far more than 1 second in that timeframe. The amount of time runners actually put into these games is vastly overblown by dumb fucks on the internet. There are exceptions, of course, but it's disingenuous to say this is the norm.

>>4468075
>most people will see that as a colossal waste of time.
Video games are a waste of time by their very nature, my dude. It doesn't matter if you spend 1000 hours playing 10 games, or 1000 hours playing 1 game over and over, you've accomplished fuck all in the end either way.

>>4468052
speedrunning a JRPG is fucking weird

>>4468745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S8aqeAeb9M
You're welcome

>>4468749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLWu4V56q10
Thanks

>>4466401
yeah man people who play games a lot are cancer lol fuck them they need to get off this board

>>4459925
You seem to be very resentful if something you've never tried yourself. You don't have to try it, mind you, but there's no reason to be so unnecessary negative.

*refuses to take down an almost certainly fabricated record*

I’m just glad they’re starting to include randomizers at GDQ, although I think LTTP was more pandering to the crowd and LOZ1 rando should have been featured instead.

>>4470057
Many of them, in fact. Several from the same known liar. TG is a joke.

>>4470114
It sucks score autists don't have their own website like speedrun.com so they still have no choice but to use TG.

>>4470137
As far as I know, most games have their own community scoreboards as well. There have been some efforts toward creating a centralized database along the lines of SRC, but none of them have ever really caught on.

>>4470114
They also apparently have speedruns from like 2005 by TSA still not taken down, though that might just be not caring enough

>>4454991
> AGDQ
> SJW Shitshow
> Runners with shit attitudes, most runners with a down to earth personality gets banned.
> Cooperate with corrupt charites
> Etc

>>4470243
lmao i love hearing tinfoil hat shit like this about GDQs that barely have any basis in reality.

like when that one guy slept with that one girl with a husband and the internet turned it into "she had a gangbang with multiple guys in 3 different hotel rooms."

>>4470315
Plenty of basis. Info's out there. Everything doesn't have to be 100% or its not true. Are you incapable of connecting dots?. Keep sucking jewyama's cock.

>>4470347
>Info's out there.
sure thing, alex jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM

>>4471553

Welp this thread sure took a turn

>>4470315
>>4470315
>lmao i love hearing tinfoil hat shit like this about GDQs that barely have any basis in reality.

Whatever you say mike uyama, we all know what a fiddled fiasco that shit is which you cream a ton off of whilst the rest goes to a charity funding boats to bring illegal niggers into europe.

what are the best speedgames

>>4473576
Sanic

>>4473576
Ninja Gaiden
Super Mario 64
Super Mario 64 rom hacks

You can't talk speedrunning on 4chan without shitposting about shemales and shit

>>4470114
If not for KoK the website would be long gone and forgotten

>>4473783
>Ninja Gaiden
Ninja Gaiden isn't even close to being "best speedgame" tier lmao.

The best NES speedgame by far is Gimmick and it's probably not even a top 50 speedgame.

>>4473576
3d platformers and pc shooters are generally the best games for speedrunning. Followed by 2d games with complex tech like Super Metroid and Dustforce.

2 button NES games, in general, are awful for speedrunning. Don't let their popularity trick you into thinking otherwise.

>>4473962
I just like Ninja Gaiden as a speedrun, i dunno

I'm the world record holder speedrunner of Zork Nemesis because I'm literally the only one doing it.

>>4474039
ok

>>4474040
Thanks, always nice to meet a fan.

>>4473576
Goemon 3 and MNsG

>>4473965
>muh preference is best
You're a fucking idiot, pc shooters are fucking atrocious and boring as fuck speedruns, none are impressive.

>>4476308
It's not just a preference, they're objectively the runs with the most potential for optimization and the highest skill ceilings. Half-Life, Quake, and Mirror's Edge in particular. 3D platformers are right there along with them.

It's okay if you don't understand, but you don't need to be a cunt about it.

>>4476442
most of the fags that run shooters couldn't menu in an rpg once to save their life, much less do it over a 5-7 hour run. Not even going to go into the autistic step routes to manipulate random encounters

>>4476442
why do they play on the easiest setting then

>>4455019
D E E R _ F O R C E

fuck you

>>4476475
lmao. cute bait.

>>4476554
there are categories for all difficulty settings, my dude. also, the difficulty of the game is mostly irrelevant to the actual tech involved in speedrunning and just makes the run slower, not harder.

speedrun event going on right now

twitchtv/nasa_marathon

Been running Ocarina of Time lately, the "any% no IM/WW" category. Fun little run where you clip past the door of time, finish just the shadow and spirit temple, and beat the game. Super cool tricks in this run too, but spirit hover can suck my dick.

>>4476442
You're the cunt who keeps using the word objective because you think it gives your subjective nonsense credibility, the super castlevania 4 speedrun has a riduclous skill ceiling as does ninja gaiden, the effort that went into the current wrs of either is way beyond what i've seen in shooters or fucking 3d twatformers. You don't understand shit outside what you personally wank to on twitch you sad fuck.

>>4478235
>the super castlevania 4 speedrun has a riduclous skill ceiling as does ninja gaiden
lmao

>>4478235
>the super castlevania 4 speedrun has a riduclous skill ceiling as does ninja gaiden
lmao
>You don't understand shit outside what you personally wank to on twitch you sad fuck.
as someone who pretty much exclusively runs 2d platformers, i can tell you with absolute certainty that they're among the easiest type of game to speedrun. it's literally thumb DDR.

>>4478235
>the super castlevania 4 speedrun has a riduclous skill ceiling as does ninja gaiden
lmao. as someone who pretty much exclusively runs 2d platformers, i can tell you with absolute certainty that they're among the easiest type of game to speedrun. it's literally thumb DDR. there are exceptions, of course, but fucking castlevania and ninja gaiden are not among them.
>You don't understand shit outside what you personally wank to on twitch you sad fuck.
it is absolutely laughable how ironic this statement is coming from someone who thinks these very specific games are hard. your favorite streamers run them, don't they?

>>4478235
>the super castlevania 4 speedrun has a riduclous skill ceiling as does ninja gaiden
lmao. as someone who pretty much exclusively runs 2d platformers, i can tell you with absolute certainty that they're among the easiest type of game to speedrun. it's literally thumb DDR. there are exceptions, of course, but fucking castlevania and ninja gaiden are not among them.
>You don't understand shit outside what you personally wank to on twitch you sad fuck.
it is absolutely laughable how ironic this statement is coming from someone who thinks these very specific games MUST be hard. your favorite streamers run them, don't they?

>>4478316
>>4478320
>>4478329
>>4478337
Autism.

>>4478337
nigga you not even worth engaging with lmao

>>4478353
It's too late, my dude. You've already engaged me. And now you're fleeing like a bitch lmao

>>4478337
>i can tell you with absolute certainty that they're among the easiest type of game to speedrun.
Even JRPG's?

>>4466871
chibi

>>4478787
Depends on the JRPG. Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG are both harder runs than most 2d platformers. Final Fantasy, not so much.

hehe le bump

>>4454991
any of the megaman games. except 6. didn't play it too much.

why is goldeneye so fuckin optimized

I rejoice in making haste for velocity, however keep it short foer a livestreaming event like GDQ Once a run is over 30 minutes it immediately feels like filler. I hate having to return to the stream and still see the same shitty game being ran. Most longer games are newer/shovelware.

>>4480294
Because it's a mindlessly simple game and thus easy to optimize.

>>4480335
it's not all about you, you know.

>>4478337
>if i say i speedrun it'll make me sound clued up

Go on then get a decent super castlevania 4 time you full of shit clueless sperg soy cunt. We all know you think you're a don at the game because you multi task playing whilst phoning downstairs to your mum for hot pockets.

>>4480294
it's been run for a long time by some really dedicated and loony runners, like hyper sperg mark rutzou.

>>4480692
>SEETHING

>>4480708
O B S E S S E D

>>4480735
that's your comeback?

>>4480740
dumb frogposter

>>4480708
>>4480735
You dumb speedrun groupies don't realize no one outside of our faggot echo chamber cares about your memes and buzzwords, this is my playground now either post your times or get ready to feast the queef.

>>4480776
ok

memerunning was a mistake

bump

talk about speedrunning stratz you autists

>>4480427
>I have to justify the boring game I bought that is longer than it needs to be but my mother gave me blowy-joeys while I played it so it was alright

Sad the kaizo trilogy was declined

>>4476573
you didnt even do it right you fucking newfag

>>4467642
>mash mash mash

speaking of speedrunning, the RTA In Japan marathon is on right now!

check it out if you want to see the Japanese side of the speedrunning community.

twitchtv/rtainjapan
twitchtv/speedgaming3 - english commentated restream.

>>4485362
>jump and throw, here we go

Kill yourselves SUBHUMANS

>>4485704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAjEGbTLlk

I figured this is more active place than /vg/srg.
Made some maps.

>>4487392
it's not. and noone cares about your maps.

>>4487418
rude desu.
I will post some more later

>>4487392
Do people even run Virgin Aladdin?

>>4487829
I believe few french people do.
And the maps are available in detail online I was just killing time.

>>4487832
Oh, ok

All the ones I come across online are of the Capcom game

>>4487849
There was huge bug recently discovered allowing one level skip.
I wonder if anyone tested it on Earth worm jim considering that is created in the same manner sort to speak.

Why did these get banned from gdq's?

>>4488597
they didn't, it's just the runners' decision now.

>>4488597
replaced with trannies. everyone can enjoy trannies. only misogynistic racists like anime video gaem.

how bout that rta in japan

>>4489860
It's shit. Too much focus on speedrunning. Not nearly enough zany reddit air canada comedy.

>>4485140
is there even anyone not named Dode who can run Kaizo 3 somewhat consistently?

fart

I like that jump