/vr/ - Retro Games

I like it a lot. It plays all NES and SNES games well. You can play pretty much any N64 game released on the Virtual Console if you find the WAD file. It can play PC engine games too. Gameboy and Gameboy Color games run perfectly, and GBA is passable, but it can be slow sometimes.
I haven't bothered with PS1, but I've heard it's not good.

hell yes it can. Have a ton of emulators on it myself

N64 emulator is kind of choppy, but otherwise runs pretty well

On a side note, how the fuck do I set up a sega cd iso? It either says it cant load the bin or the file is too alrge

Every NES, SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Master System, Genesis and Game Gear game I've thrown at mine runs flawlessly. I still haven't tried Sega CD emulation on, but I'll get to it. It's pretty much a bust in terms of PS1 and N64 emulation, so if you really want those, you might be disappointed.

Not retro, but it can also play a good amount of Gamecube games as well.

Classic controller pro is good to use for just about anything

Wii emulation is alright. NES, SNES, GBC, Genesis, and Gamegear/Master System all run perfectly. GBA games have framerate issues, but they're still playable. For N64, you're going to have to buy/pirate the games that are on Virtual Console. Good luck with anything else. You can find the Homebrew apps on Wiibrew.

Something I should mention is that the Sega emulator crashes whenever I try to load Sega CD bios but that could just be me being stupid and having something set up wrong.

its pretty good
make sure you have a classic controller for the other games like SNES
>>434468
cant get to Sega CD to work tho

How's MAME? I want to run MAME on a Wii and use it to play some old shmups. Anybody tried it at all?

The emulation is perfect if you use Nintendo's official emulator. Better than anything I've seen on PC.

OP here. Thanks for the good answers so far. So, if it runs NES, SNES, Genesis, GBC/GBA smoothly, it is a-OK by me.

>>434468
Shame about the PS1 man, being a N64 kid myself (and a owner of my system still) I'd really like to emulate what I missed in my day.

>>434873
Would also love to hear about MAME. I can emulate it on my Classic Xbox, but the thing is I'd need to put on a bigger HDD on it. That requires a bit of work, and I'm afraid to wreck it up in the process. The Wii is just more "expendable" to me.

>>436162
Dunno about MAME, never tried as I never get an inkling beyond my PC.

The Wii is a terrific 8/16 bit emulating machine. Easy as shit to soft-mod, so you get Wii ISOs, if that's your thing. Their classic controller is very well made and feels good. Highly recommended for everything below N64.

Get RetroArch for Wii. You can use it to emulate just about everything the Wii is capable of emulating through standalone emulators, but under one program, and usually better to boot.

>>434464

Use the accompanying CUE files. Don't load the game directly from the ISO. Remember, that you have to rename the BIOS to something specific (don't remember what) and you have to paste the file to a specific directory.

>>436301

It's not really that great. The only thing it has going for it is the conveniance of not having to load up every individual app to play any particular game, but usually when I sit down to play, I just fiddle around with one game from one emulated platform at a time, and it's basically loading the exact same emulators I already have standalone, so comparatively it's the same deal.

Its neat. Get a CCP its 20 bucks.

>>436301
It also plays several CPS1 & 2 games near perfectly. I could finally pay X-men vs Street Fighter on a console without importing the Saturn cart.

Took a lot of work and even more practice but I managed to set up the Wii such that I can now play Star Fox 64 with motion controls. Tilt the remote to barrel roll, pull it back to somersault, etc...fuck it feels so good man.

>>437269
Tell me more.

>>434421

It emulates everything from SNES to below, N64/NDS/PSX are tricky, specially for PSX you have to change the setttings according the game or it will crash, besides that it has a decent compatibily.

GBA is pretty much flawless, the slow frames aren't a big deal and some games has more of them (like Golden Sun) but it's not the trend.

>>434539

The emulators on Wii are perfect if you don't a have classic controllers; they let you play the games just with the wiimote.

does Prboom run doom with wiimote aiming support?

>>436162

I wish I could find old IDE hdds in my area hassle-free. My best

>>437541
Are gamecube controllers also supported?

I haven't tried everything, but GBA seems quite flawless with the right settings (played through Metroid ZM). SNES is good, but it has some slowdowns when there's too much haopening, like when there are too many enemies at once in Zelda or Super Metroid. Chrono Trigger worked perfect though. NES is flawless. I've tried PSX, but it was pretty much unplayable. Haven't tried N64.

>>437269
i can't run this game and Magician lord on my Wii. does i need any specific bios to install so i can play them?

did anyone have problems saving games while emulating GBA? I could play them just fine but it just wouldn't save at all

>>440014
Yes, gamecube controllers are supported by every emulator I've tried.

Also retrousb has hookups if you want to play with the original controllers. I bought a snes and nes one and they are awesome.

>>434468
>Not retro, but it can also play a good amount of Gamecube games as well.

I've been trying to figure that out. Also I wish there was 32X emulation on the Wii.

>>440793
>Sages
>Has a legitimate question.
All of my why.

>>442117
>I've been trying to figure that out.
Have Gamecube disc.
Insert into wii.
Play gamecube game.

>>441258
Is there any input lag using retrousb?

>>442231
I mean like downloading them to the hard drive I have and playing them that way.

Can anyone tell me more about the vc wads for N 64 games? Is it safe? I dont wanna brick my console....

>>442117
Install the Dios-Mios WAD, throw your Gamecube ISO through DiscEX, put what it spits out in a folder on the root of a USBstick called "games" and you're good to go.

You might need to install a CIOS, but I don't quite remember, as I installed Dios-Mios months ago.

>>442271
You can use Dios Mios for hdd use or Dios Mios Lite for SD card use.

>>437172
Well, for sure you'll want it for FBA and Nestopia, which do not have standalone emulators on the Wii and AFAIK are better than whatever else is on there.

>>442282
Install an applicaton to your wii called Multi Mod Manager.
Search for "Game name" Wad.
make folder in root of SD card titled wad, and put wad files there.
run MMM and select install wad.
Easy as pie from there.

>>442327
>>442331
I've never heard of Dios-Mios or CIOS. I'll look them up, thanks.

>>442282
Assuming you have an NTSC Wii, make sure the WAD is NTSC and just install it.

>>442351
Pretty sure you can install WADs from other regions as well.

I played a couple SNES games on it and they played well. Basically the only reason I don't use it more is because I don't have a Classic controller pro (though you could use a GC controller) and the filters on PC.

>>434468
There is Mednafen, an emulator that runs all the systems you mentioned in your first line, plus more, like PC Engine and Atari Lynx, aimple interface but is pretty great.

The MSX 1-2 emulator is awesome too. It has screenshots and looks very nice. The Vectrex one not so good imo.

>>442282
yeah it's safe, but slightly more tricky than gamecube/wii games.

you need to create an emulated nand with bootmii, extract it and then add the wads to it with showmiiwads, put custom-di/sneek/uneek on your device, then place the created nand in the right place. got that? good.

>>442362
I've always heard that installing a WAD from a different region could brick it, so I never actually tried it out of fear of that happening.

>>442367
Or you could just install a WAD.

>>442383
you could, but it won't work as you think

>>442387
Really? It's worked exactly as I thought for every WAD I've installed.

>>442396
Hold on, what? Did you remove the region from each one?

>>442364
>Playing retro games with filters.
ISHYGDDT

>>442404
I just downloaded them and installed them bro.

>>442412
Which games, for example?

>>442404
If I'm not mistaken I believe you may have to use something called "free the wads"

>>442282

If you install a corrupt/faulty WAD, or the installer somehow crashes halfway through, you will brick. If you're not sure whether or not whatever WAD you download off the internet is good or not, you should make sure to have something to fall back on in case it does brick your Wii.

All Wiis older than mid 2008 have a vulnerable boot2, which you can replace with a custom one called bootmii, that'll allow you to control your Wii in case you full-brick.

All Wiiis produced after 2008 no longer have a vulnerable boot2, and must rely on Priiloader or a similar System Menu patcher. Priiloader is essentially useless with full-bricks, but it's good enough if you somehow manage to install a faulty channel, or fuck up something that doesn't corrupt your entire NAND. It's advised that when you're installing Priiloader, to have your Wii connected to the internet, and to let your Wii rest a couple of minutes on the Homebrew Channel for your console to properly initialize on the network. Do note, that the installer itself doesn't download anything off the internet, it's just to prevent the installer from crashing inadvertently due to a stupid bug that the developer refused to properly fix.

Do not listen to >>442356

Automated installers are the devil.

This anon >>442367 is correct, but getting an emulated NAND is way too much effort for what it's worth. If you're careful about what you install and take the proper preventive measures, you don't really need to emulate a NAND.

Also, stay away from WAD loaders (not installers), as they still require installing them on your NAND temporarily everytime you play and they will shorten its life.

>>442231
>>442327
>>442331
>>442360

Please keep within the board's allowed topics.

>>442434
Every N64 game available on the shop.

Also, stuff like the USB Loader GX WAD and Dio-Mios.

>>442338

I only emulate arcade games on my computer, as I don't like having to wait several minutes for my Wii to load games into memory.

And I don't particularly care for Nestopia. I'm pretty satisfied with FCEU GX. I cannot discern nor care for the differences between both emulators, and most of the time RetroArch crashes on my Wii because FUCK ME that's why.

>>442443
I just used Wad Manager 1.7, put the games in the "wad" folder on my SD, and installed. It worked fine for me, but I don't know that much about all of this stuff.

Am I the devil? Did I take a big risk or anything?

>>442508
>Did I take a big risk or anything?
I think the other dude just answered that in the comment you replied to.

>>442443
Thanks! Luckly I got a black Wii which means is post 08.

>>442561
>Luckly
You mean unluckily?

>>442508

>Am I the devil? Did I take a big risk or anything?

There's always a slight chance for corruption, regardless of whatever application you use.

I was talking about Multi-Mod Manager, which most people don't bother reading what it does and end up doing/installing/uninstalling/updating/downgrading shit they're not supposed to. Wad Manager is slightly safer in that you have to download everything manually first.

>>442579
Yeah, that.

>>442581
I'm the guy here>>442367

You seem to know your shit, so would you know if the glitching problem that happens on some SNES VC games would also happen if I installed it directly to the system memory?
I've always used an emunand, and for reasons you've already mentioned I'm worried about installing the SNES games to the Wii to check. There are other graphical issues, like the ratio problem on the Neo Geo titles, but the SNES is the worst.
I have a feeling it wouldn't make a difference though.

I use YAWMM
MMM never worked for me, I dunno why.
>tfw hdd with full No-Intro sets of GB, GBC, GBA, NES, SNES, and N64 crashed
Thank god the full GBA set is still on my PSP memory card though.

>>442628

I haven't looked much into emulated NANDs. I prepped my Wii once and went through a 2 day long ordeal that always ended with me staring at a black screen whenever I tried launching an emulated NAND.

>would you know if the glitching problem that happens on some SNES VC games would also happen if I installed it directly to the system memory?

What glitching problem? If you're using VC games with injected ROMs, there's a good chance you'll find bugs and glitches because it's using an emulator created specifically for another game. As far as I know, all official VC games work flawlessly (save for a couple like Mario Kart 64 that can't emulate Memory Cards, and thus, cannot record Ghosts).

As I mentioned earlier, you can try them out on your actual NAND safely if you want, but only after making sure you have a fallback measure, like bootmii or Priiloader.

Still, there's a good chance that if that WAD worked on your emulated NAND, it'll work on the real deal. But it never hurts to be extra prepared. Proceed at your own discretion.

>>442715
>If you're using VC games with injected ROMs
I probably did get ones from shitty sources, but I've always had trouble getting VC wads *anywhere* for some reason. Anyone care to share some working dumps or sites where I can get some?
I'm certain a lot of the games I've had trouble with *are* injected though, so you're probably right.

>>442715
>What glitching problem?
Basically it looks like a large chunk of the screen is 'ghosted'. Hard to describe without a photo or something.
It's annoying as fuck.

>>442772

You should check first whether they're actually injected or not. If you can find your game on the official VC release list, chances are the game's legit.

>Anyone care to share some working dumps or sites where I can get some?

I really can't help you with that. I got my download links from a weird website in Chile, and they've long since died and nobody has bothered in reuploading again. Hell, they still have Megaupload links on that thread.

Maybe try out tehparadox.com?

>Basically it looks like a large chunk of the screen is 'ghosted'.

That... I wouldn't really know of. Maybe it's your TV?

>>442847
They're definitely injected, you can see the icon of the game that they injected into when you open the emunand through neek2o.

The TV's fine too, it happens on particular systems, i.e. SNES will ghost with some shit on the right-hand side of the screen, Neogeo will have some fucked up ratio.
The weird thing is, the Neogeo games I've tried are legit dumps of the actual VC shop titles, but even they have ratio problems. I don't know if it's because I'm playing through emunand.

I'll try and get a photo right now.

>>442886
I couldn't find my other NAND, my drive's in a mess, this isn't actually the worst offender, Super Metroid looks worse than this.

The game it was injected in is Diddy Kong's Quest.

Also, re-/r/equesting any sites where I can get clean, working VC dumps.

googling "vc wads" I find this

http://wehackwii.pbworks.com/w/page/8844418/N64

The website looks reliable... but is it?

>>443076
I can't really answer your question, but why not just use Snes9X GX?

>>443135
>>443135
Curiosity about why it won't work properly on mine when it works for others, mostly, but I'm also fucking stubborn.

>>443137
Only one way to find out.... thanks.

>>443137
Crap, it's 404'ing everywhere.

bumping in the hopes someone has got a mediafire full of clean, working VC dumps

>>443386
There used to be a guy with a Mediafire account with EVERYTHING Wii-related, but it's been taken down.

>>443137
Some of the n64 wads work here. I'm trying to find the site I got a lot of mine from

>>443905
Kirby 64
http://www.crocko.com/061EB102DB3811E09676002481FAD55A/1907529864
F-Zero
http://www.crocko.com/0610301EDB3811E09676002481FAD55A/F-Zero_X.wad

Here's a couple.

WiiMednafen.
Wario Land Virtual Boy.
That's all.

>>443924
To play VC games, do I simply install the wad?

>>445736
first thing I did after setting up that emulator was loading that one.

>mfw

>>445779

I've been playing some PC Engine virtual console titles, Bonket's Adventure, Detana Twin Bee, Cho Aniki and others

Since I rather not make another topic...

How is Ocarina of Time on Wii's virtual console? Any performance issues or is it good to go?

>>443924
Thanks.

IIRC, isn't the Genesis Plus GX emulator for this currently the best Genesis emulator out there (even on PCs)?

>>447035
It's on par with Kega, so yeah, it's damn good. Only thing is, it doesn't support 32X.

>>446757
N64 games work well

>>442443
>All Wiis older than mid 2008 have a vulnerable boot2, which you can replace with a custom one called bootmii, that'll allow you to control your Wii in case you full-brick.

I'm confused about this part, do I install bootmii on the actual Wii or just the SD card?
I do have a RVL-001 (i.e. with the GC ports) and I have been able to install bootmii to both boot2 and the other thing (IOS I think) in the past, but it seems I always need a SD card inserted after that to get to the bootmii menu.

If bootmii says it *is* installed to boot2 in the bootmii screen, is that enough to save me from a future brick?

>>447324
bump

>>447324
one last bump

bump

My main complain about Wii emulation is the lack of a turbo function for the Genesis emulator. The PSP genesis emulation has a turbo function but on the PSP the SNES emulation sucks balls but it works well on the Wii.

PSP = emulates everything really well except for the SNES and 64

Wii = emulates well everything except for the Sega systems and maybe the 64. PSX is not that good too last time I checked

>>448685
There is an adapter for gamecube joysticks to psx joysticks. Some third party psx joyaticks have turbo.

>>448685
If you find the right version of the PSP's SNES emulator, it's a hell of a lot better than the updated versions, strange as that may be. With work on the settings, I got F-Zero running (damn near if not) full speed. [Donkey Kong is a bit of another story...]
The Euphoria revisions were total shit, too. Not even sure why.

As for N64 emulation, they're making some pretty damn good progress, considering how slowly the PC side is moving. Granted, I haven't used my PSP in a while (because someone else has claimed it for the time being), and sound slows things a bit, there have been a few more revisions since I last gave it a shot.

Alright well, since people are answering questions. I softmodded my WIi following MauiFrogs guide and got all of it to work. When I try to install Dios Mios however, I run into trouble. I was able to install Dios Mios 2.9(the latest version) and got it to recognize a test gamecube iso but I can't get it to run. It gives me an error. Whe nI try to run the game it says if I want to install the game to SD. I'm trying to run it off of my HDD. Any help would be appreciated.

>>449376
usually a clusters issue

what size are your clusters? you can find out with Easeus Partition Manager (it's free)

>>449505
>Clusters

You mean if its 32? I have the Partition first, primary, and 32. I looked around and it said I might have to update GX Loader or WiiFlow, problem is how do I update without losing anything? Simply just replace the files on the SD? I want to play the isos from my HDD,

>>449527
Yeah 32 is correct. Use CFG Loader Mod, the rest suck balls.

>>449376
also, what's your folder structure on the HDD? and can you post a pic of the error?

>>443924
What region are these?

Also I'm still lost on why installing wads directly to the nand is a problem. Getting an emu nand seems like a massive hassle, so long as you have the right amount of space and bootmii as boot2 surely there's no harm?

>>447324
If you've installed Bootmii as Boot2 that's all you need to do. The screen will only ever load when you have it on the SD card yes, and that's how it should be. If you brick the console then you can put the files back on the SD, load up that screen still and fix your wii.

Some background on how it works is useful as well because knowledge is power in these kind of things to prevent yourself breaking anything. Boot2 is part of the Wii's boot up process, after Boot0 and boot1 which are unable to be changed and super super necessary. The Boot2 vulnerability you've used and changed stops the boot up of the console before anything else.
The NAND (flash memory) hasn't been accessed yet, even the Wii remotes bluetooth chip hasn't been activated yet. So this allows you to back up your console before it loads anything, and replace your entire NAND if you've corrupted it, before it loads. Making the console practically unbreakable from software issues. Hardware obviously not.

The important step you need to do which sounds like you haven't is backup and download your NAND from bootmii. One of the four options you have on the page is Backup nand to SD. This copies the entire contents of your console on your SD card along with the 'keys' to it. Get this file, save it on your computer and forget about it. Update it every now and then if you've been playing a lot or done a lot of new things on your Wii as obviously that copies only from a set time.

The whole process is essentially like making a manual system restore point.

If your Wii was to brick, you replace the nand with the working copy you have backed up. if you only have bootmii as ios like in later Wii's, obviously you can't access this screen before the Wii loads anything, so you can't fix it as well if you were to brick it.

>>449624
it was already mentioned that there's a chance of bricking by not using a emu nand.

also you can remove region with showmiiwads-mod

>>434421
RETRO ARCH WII
RETRO ARCH WII
RETRO ARCH WII

>>449376
Make sure you are using the latest version of your usb loader. if you are using wiiflow, you are good to go. If you are using usb loader gx, look into the "beta" thread in the google code repository.

Make sure you are using "DIOS MIOS" and not "DIOS MIOS Lite" since the lite version is for SD loading.

Make sure your HDD is formatted with 32kb cluster.

>>449527
To update loader, you just replace the files in your sd. most notably, the .dol file in the folder of your loader in the apps folder.

SD:/apps/usb-loader/boot.dol

So between DOSbox, Retroarch, Wiimednafen, VC wads and WiiSX/Wii64 you've got almost everything retrocovered.

Having a CRT and composite cables make it the closest experience you can get to the real deal.

Just hook up a Classic Controller and you are good to go.

>>449739

Retro Arch Wii for me keeps scrolling whenever I pug in my Classic Controller Pro. Any way to fix this?

>>449836
Sounds like the controller is the one with issues, but I guess you don't have the issue in other shit. Let's see.

Do you have the latest version? (0.9.8.4)
Do you have the 1st controller configured with CCP?

Everything but N64 and Playstation run pretty well, N64 isn't too bad but it has problems with compatibility and rendering textures.

So, reading through all of the thread... It's right to assume that the troublesome/tricky part would be using the vc WADs? Softmodding it and intalling emulators are nearly risk-free?
Thanks

A little story...

>be me last week
>installing IOS236
>instalation is finished but one last question
>r u gonna use this for pirate games press 1
>2 back up originals press 2
>this seems weird but what the hell
>"1"
>IOS236 starts uninstalling
>dude that made the software gives me shit 4being a pirate
>also tells me to be grateful he didn't delete my homebrew channel

Later I downloaded a no bullshit version but man that was weird....

So I was playing some Air Zonk for TG16 on the VC, but after beating stage 3's boss (or maybe it was stage 4), the game screen got black, and I can hear the stage title music, but nothing can be seen.

What gives? it is possible for a VC title to just glitch out? Do I need to download a new WAD?

>>453626
Does your uncle work at Nintendo?

>>456780
what you don't believe me? do some research or try it yourself...

>>453573
yes. yes.