/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

OP
-Seeking for possible improvements and additions
>>4407304
-Current points of interest for some posters include
--Build game downloads w/ all their xpacks
--Migrate infographics to other external hosting?
--Updated 'Our Wads' pastebin?

=== NEWS ===

[12-6] Anon wants theme suggestions for a map pack, voting ends Friday
http://www.strawpoll.me/14558481

[12-5] Yet another /vr/spooky update
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkvqm7czasybpsv/vryspooky_4.rar?dl=0

[12-4] Dead Marine - "general enhancement" mod from maker of Smooth Doom - beta released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58521

[12-4] Anon release; MAP07 replacer 'Panas'
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=90965153097717279634

[12-2] Hunter's Moon Version 2.9.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30942&p=1029395#p1029395

[12-1] Hellscape final version on idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98114-doom-ii-hellscape-v11-final/

[12-1] New Quake infographic
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4429812/#4430438

[11-30] Babel creator hosts website to hold current DL links and information
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

[11-29] Exporting resources from Chasm: The Rift now possible
https://twitter.com/DickWhitehouse/status/934978069130911746

[11-27] Complex Doom v27 update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58535

[11-27] Final Doomer 2.0 released (now 2.1)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55061

[11-26] Anon map release: whirlwind.wad (using textures from epic2)
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B1NxOZlEf5aNWDNMcnJNdjZ6aGc

[11-25] Hunter's Moon - Razor's Cluster Bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQfVuRk3_FI

[11-25] Babel now finalized, in testing >>4419193
https://mega.nz/#!nhFQHCAC!iotxW8TzkyPJNOZ-SfsMYc6QQio2lnxBnJRzS3LD4XM

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=== PROTIP ===

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>that pic
Bro as fuck. Which one would be the first one to accuse another of cheating (and come thisclose to getting the place shot up in the process)?

>>4445786
Nu-Lo-wang,

Does anyone have a working link for Simple Quake Launcher?

>>4445808
Yes.

>>4445808
One was posted last thread. Check again.

Anyone else here like the SNES doom because of its technical capabilities despite its limitations?

>>4445813
Not as impressive if you consider that they added a special chip into the cartridge and that it'd be impossible to run otherwise.

>>4445813
I sort of have the same feeling for the GBA Dooms and the 32X Doom, the latter in particular because it manages to maintain such a smooth framerate and speed at all times, impressive for the piece of shit the 32X was. Controls are pretty good too, though the music is an abomination.

How short is doomguy?

>>4445837
More importantly, why does he look like a nigger?

>>4445837
Quake 3 lists him at 6'.

>>4445841
Then it lies

>>4445861
nah

>>4445863
You do too.

>>4445871
nah

buttpain

>>4445886
lewd

>>4445772
>controllers
they better not be playing a game starring them

>>4444896
Yeah, but like

>These guys are too stronk
>These guns are too stronk

I get that you're trying to help, but this really doesn't help me at all. If you could be more indepth on why certain things need changes, I'd actually have something I could respond to.

>>4445913
Duke is so vain, he even collects his own merchandise!

>>4445932
Im not that guy, but i'd like to see a progressive difficulty thing similar to metadoom's that brings out tougher enemies the further you go into a megawad.

>>4445965
Actually already have that in the next update, the Adaptive difficulty. I did a stupid though when I was working on it though, and need to fix a ton of crap in Arsenal because I forgot that you can run the two mods seperately, hahaha.

It's pretty fun, runs off a kinda Danger-o-meter, which goes up whenever you enter a level, or find a rare item, etc.

At 0 it's basically UV, at 50 it's entirely Armageddon, scales nicely between those numbers.

I'm not even two-thirds through TNT and I'm already feeling exhausted from the size of some of these maps. Granted a sizable chunk of time spent here was me running around like an idiot because I periodically forget that you sometimes have to shoot switches instead of unf-ing them but still. That last room was a fucking wreck on me because of the fear that I'd have to start the map over. I hope the rest of the maps in this wad are shorter than this one.

>>4445932
I literally brought up the master assemblies in my earlier post

they're too accessible and way too effective for them to be remotely balanced in normal play

either decrease the damage on the AMR or have it take up more ammo per shot, have it sit at about 10 or 15 maybe. as is there's nothing weighed against such massive and consistent damage output

>>4446013
The AMR does 400 less damage in 1.1. I'm not sure what the assembly combination is in 1.05, but it uses PASS in 1.1. Several have had combination changes, the Ripper and Energy saw are the only Master Assemblies that can be made without exotic mods.

Either way, they're the strongest guns in the game.

>>4445950
I want that 486 66mhz, so elite!

>>4446013
>>4446024
Oh whoops, forgot it also uses 10 ammo now too.

It's really hard to keep track of what's changed since 1.05. ;__;

Hello nighttime retro fps thread, I'm looking for advice on how to improve my visuals without going super overboard. I want to add some subtle depth and stuff to the geometry of this level but I'm a pretty amateur mapper so I don't have many ideas. Given that the whole level looks similar to this room, what would you add to make it look a little more visually interesting?

>>4446026
I used to have one... Wonder if it's still at my parents.

>>4446045
Marble pillars with SK_Face2 (skulls) inset, Wood3 (extra-bloody) trim

>>4446045

I'm no mapper, but I think the visuals there are perfectly fine.

Posting the action highlights of a regular playthrough I do with random oblige maps.

Having so much fun with this modded madness that I wanted to share what it looks like to play doom on my end.

>>4446147

>>4446045
Try adding supports and ledges to your architecture. They make maps more interesting and reduce texture clashing between flats and walls.
Try changing the shape of your room to something a bit more "unusual", even if sometimes it doesn't make sense. You could also try cutting 90degrees angles to make the shape of your room a bit more interesting right away.
Also - pay attention to the ceiling - try adding skylights or some sort of beams or supports. Lots of mappers ignore ceilings on their maps even though you can basically add as much shit as you want there and the player won't get stuck on any of it.

The key to making your maps more visually interesting isn't adding a lot of small, intricate details, but adding new big, meaningful and distinctive elements and then working your way down if need be.
For example - look how windows look like in later levels of Scythe 2 - they're not all that complex but thanks to those big, chunky sectors they really stick out.

Also - don't ignore the basic stuff like pillars, windows and recesses in walls - you can still do quite a lof of interesting things with them.
And if everything fails then you can always go for the good old cliché and trace the flat texture on the floor and lower it in some places to make it look old and worn out.

Good luck, anon!

>>4446147
The fuck is that shit

>>4446045
Add some sort of tapestry/inlay on the large and empty upper section of the wall - they look barren.

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>>4441838
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>>4446147
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>>4446184
B-but I wanted to post in a fresh new thread so they'd linger longer.

>>4446190

>>4446208
>Anon learned a new move: [Crop]!

>>4446209

>>4446190
Heh, could you imagine if someone played with a weapon mod like that unironically? The rainbow gore is goofy fun, but holy shit those gun sprites are so bad.

Hilarious imagining doomguy swapping out gloves every time he switches to a different flavor of machine gun, and holding them in front of his face to reload.

>>4446158
Thinking about how one would use a claymore in Doom was worth a chuckle too.

>>4446210
>>4446214
>could you imagine if someone played with a weapon mod like that unironically?

*Nervous laughter*

This is actually the default way to play doom for me. I've already done atleast 40 playthroughs with this specific set up.

>>4446221
I don't pay attention to the swapping gloves at all, the gameplay is so much fun with this mod.

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>>4446229

>>4446221
>>4446225
To each their own I guess, but god damn have you tried some other weapon mods? Maybe find one with sprites at a proper res, no ADS blocking >50% of the screen, no reloads blocking >50% of the screen if any reloads at all, and/or guns with unique identities and not just varying degrees of damage/accuracy/fire-rate on a handful of rifles/shotguns.

>>4446232
>>4446234
I have tried a lot and I like a lot what is out there. However this mod has some very unique features that others don't offer and the feel of the action is better than other mods with better graphics out there.

>>4446238

stop spamming

>>4446238
What features, if I may ask?

>>4446240
Just a few more left and I'll stop forever.

>>4446241
>>4446238
I too is interested in the list of features you like in the mod
(trying to make my own weapon mod right now)

>>4446242
You seem to be killing stuff way too fast, even for BD-based mod.
Automatic weapon one-shotting mancubi? That's bullshit, no matter what "balancing" aspect the weapon aims for.

>>4446241
>What features, if I may ask?
-I can throw my gun to quickdraw my pistol.
-Throwing my gun can damage and stun an enemy.
-There are roughly 5 different variants for each weapon slots from 1 to 9-0.
-I can only carry one gun for each slot.
-Each gun is similar to the category it belongs to (smgs, pdws, shotguns, snipers, ars), but they all feel unique to use and have their own pros and cons.
-There are also 4 different types of tactical explosives (stun grenages, frag grenades, remote detonated C4 and tripwire claymore mines).
-I also get 3 dedicated power weapons (grenade launcher, flamethrower, nuclear rpg).
-Then theres two radios that I can use to call in an squad of ally troopers or a waifu with a gun or even an attack helicopter.
-Most medical items are replaced with ammo, the only hp is a medkit that I carry myself and use actively in order to heal.
-I can request ammo and health from my squadmates in exhange for grenades that I have.
-At any time, I can use a melee knife attack, no matter what gun or item I'm holding.
-Each weapon category has its own ammo type.
-Some weapons have special functions and abilities unique to that weapon (dual wielding, alternative firemodes, boosted melee attack).
-Because it runs on top of brutal doom, special player deaths are in, ability to dodgeroll to left or right are in and some minor environmental effects are in too (like splashing effects and sounds when jumping into water or other liquids).

I also have a bunch of extra mods on top of this that further extend the experience.
-All explosive nukage barrels are nuclear.
-A custom difficulty selection menu.
-Ability to climb walls, floorslide, double jump, wall jump.
-Ability to turn on configurable slomo at will.
-Custom mp3 music packs.
-Health indicator to see how much hp enemies have.
-Swappable monster mods and randomizers that I can switch between.
-Oblige that churns out a new randomized campaign within a few minutes.

I'm probably missing some details.

>>4446250
Theres two reasons for that. One is that I'm running a custom edited version of this mod that powers everything up.

The other reason is that I'm playing on a custom difficulty that I dubbed "overkill mode", which enables fast monsters, sets the aggressiveness value to the maximum possible, but allows monsters of the same type to infight and also all monsters have 50% hp. I made that mode as a fun shmup spin-off experience.

>>4446256
None of that is really unique to that mod.

>>4446258
And thats it, no more webms left.

>>4446261
The individuals features may not be unique, but they're all included in the same package is why I think it makes it so good.

>>4446256
Dear God, it's worse than I could've possibly imagined.
>>4446258
That isn't shmup-like at all, you've just got a point-n-click explosion generator. Like it's not even a game at this point it's more like a toy. If that's what you enjoy, then I guess you do you, but yeesh I can't imagine enjoying that for more than a hour for the novelty of it.

>>4446045
New sky texture.

>>4446054
>>4446118
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>>4446268
I'm late on this, but thanks for all the responses, guys, I will take all that into consideration.

>>4446263
>And thats it, no more webms left.
allah be praised

>>4446264
I guess you feel concerned that there is a lack of challenge in this type of experience.

My take it is that games can be played with two intentions; to seek a challenge or to relax with.

The experience that I've setup for myself is the latter. I use it to blow off steam for 20-30 minutes a campaign, mowing down hunderds of demons with gore flying everywhere while feeling powerful as fuck. I get plenty of challenge in IRL stuff and work that I seek something to balance that out, hence why I can keep coming back to this experience way past its novelty value.

Its not entirely effortless though, I can still get somewhat easily killed really quickly and need to use cover or the regular 10 shotgunners behind the next corner will be insta-shredding me to ribbons.

>>4446272

How old is Doomguy when things start?

I always thought he was older than a junior soldier, I saw him as in his 30's or even his 40's.

>>4446280
I always thought early 30s.

>>4446256

This is an interesting read-up, thanks.

>>4446256
>Then theres two radios that I can use to call in an squad of ally troopers or a waifu with a gun or even an attack helicopter.

Real talk, is there any mods where I can play as a waifu instead?
Preferably in something a little more serious than the dress up mod that has been coming out

Not that it isn't fun but I only like the Ninja outfit abilities

>>4446214
> The rainbow gore is goofy fun
That a separate mod from those guns
As in that's just a modified Ketchup that some anon linked a while ago

>>4446286
Demonsteele?

>>4446275
Yeah, it's like a toy, really. It's not like it takes zero effort, but it's not really what you'd traditionally call a game.

>>4446287
I figured, I was commenting on the whole

>>4446280
I imagine him as 28-32

>>4446286
demonsteele, high noon drifter as basilissa

>>4446286
>Real talk, is there any mods where I can play as a waifu instead?

I think there was a TC called Hedon with a badass demon waifu.

>>4446256
Most of those aren't unique at all.

>>4446275
Jeez, what the hell builds you so much steam IRL that you need this much relax?

Am I doing it rite?

>>4446335
>not boosting yourself with rockets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUDawl_RkhA

This looks great. You can have friends and pets with you. You can even get Daisy to fight with you.

>>4446406
05:00

>>4446295
NEET detected

>>4446293
>>4446291
Yes I have that one, it's really fun.

Are there others?

>>4446294
Will try to check this out

>>4446431
There's "La Tailor Girl"
You can craft various outfits that change your parameters and weapons.

>>4446286
Agent Diaz, but it's not done yet
i hope it will be some time
even so, it's worth a go right now

>>4446406
>A few balanced companions that are not over the top.

Hold my drink, try this instead:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brother-in-arms

Tanks, helicopters, xenomorphs, 5 man soldier squads of different nationalities, swat teams, flying drones, succubuses, doom guy, predator and more.

Its totally hilarious and overpowered beyond all sense, but commanding a gigantic army while I do nothing is a funny experience.

>>4446286
Netronian Chaos, if an MSPaint waifu also works for you.

>>4446335
try doing a 90 degree rotation at the start to go much faster
> w
> wa
> a
> jump
whilst turning left

>>4446286
Makes me think it could be neat to make a version of my WIP gameplay project to feature some fun and cool girl as a player class option.

Any good suggestions for a good zandronum hud that i can use online as well?

>>4446476
>Rena fom Hugurashi
Lel. Looks fun for fucking around. I like that one because it seems balanced. You take 1 friend, up the difficulty and go. If they can die even better. You can take one each time you change level.

>>4445772
I REALLY hope that System Shock Portable becomes accessible via Systemshock.org(hopefully after the Remake is released next year). Also, any Alien series-based WADs that are meant for DOOM 2 instead of DOOM/ULTIMATE DOOM?

>>4446508

Anyone know how to spawn a vanilla archvile in mods that replace monsters? I like to spawn a archvile every time I load up a map so I can have my own personal army but certain mods like to fuck around with archvile behavior, like giving them a pure dps role or making them spawn hostile monsters instead of converting dead monsters into allies.

>>4446564
you'll have to find the actor name for that version of archvile

>>4446508
I like Brutal Friends too. What I do is summon a teleport beacon at the start of every level and call someone in. That's my one companion for the level (unless I find another). If he dies, he dies and I'm on my own until the next map.

Would you ever name your kid DOOMGUY?

>>4446515
Fat chance of that, the guy who was in charge of it DMCA's the shit out of it wherever it ends up.

He pretty much took all the work that went into it and sold it to Night Dive so they could do a quick and cheap "enhanced" SS1.

>>4446515
I have it.

>tfw everyone will get pissed off at me now
>yfw I only play Doom at run always off + TURBO 70%

For those who play quake 2, is Q2PRO the recommended source port?

>>4446335
yer doin fine, just remember that NetQuake ports like quakespasm have much less effective bunnyhopping than Quakeworld ports like ezquake

>Cacowards in 3 days

>>4446764
Oh boy, can't wait to get dissapointed.

>>4446770
y tho

>>4446764
i don't care, it's not some big thing, it's just the opinions of a few self-appointed oligarchs whose judgement is worth no more than yours or mine.

>>4446786
who is the Harvey Weinstein of the cacowards committee?

>>4446764
>Downloaded the 25 year cacoward megapack a year back.
>Still haven't got through even 30% of the entire content.
>More content is on its way.
>mfw

>>4446770
>>4446786

>>4446790
Depends, whose the most obnoxiously socially justice-y?

>>4446634
I also have it on my Dell Laptop.

>>4446589
Welp, time will tell. Maybe things will change when he kicks the bucket.

>>4446802
>More content is on its way.
...all the content already exists. You can go download it and play it right now. The Cacowards don't actually *do* anything.

>>4446431
Project Einherjar.
It's a TC set in a world where it's after a nuclear war and women are the dominant gender. So both the player character and most of the enemies are female.
I don't really care for the story as such, and the enemy chatter gets obnoxious, but it's worth a play.

Any good classic Doom Discord servers?

>>4446862
but that's where you find a lot of the stuff that you didn't even know to look for that's good

https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&a=details&id=15684
Found out that someone here has a lot of Ape Escape textures, in case anyone would like to make AE themed Doom maps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXIDEapaLc

You know what to do.

>>4446995
This thumbnail looks like a sloth in Doomguy's armor.

Almost ready with my map pack for Quake 2's 20th anniversary this weekend!

Currently got help from someone to betatest it, and it was good that he did because I fucked up a lot with regards to audio limits.

I hope to have it fixed now so it can be released in time.

>>4446786
>>4446770
go back to BadGame

>>4446862
Yes because I already know every mod that already exists and is released ever.

Doom enemies, Quake enemies, Quake 2 enemies and now Quake 4 enemies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXzvGyW6Wn0

>>4447094
Will BJ be playable?

>>4445986
Most maps in the first half are short-medium sized, though. Map18 is basically the first actually big map in TNT. If you don't like big maps, though, you aren't going to like some of the later maps.

>>4447094
>That lighting
I don't remember that level being so bright.

>>4447094
>Doom enemies, Quake enemies, Quake 2 enemies and now Quake 4 enemies.
"hey that's cool i think i'-"
>It's just the shitty AEOD rips that don't mesh well and have artifacting.
deeeroped.

s'arais dropet of shitcanned maps
here you can see where i copy-pasted that 1-pixel-width lighting thing for the 300 mins for.

don't you hate when teleportation projects go to shit?

>>4447094
Uhh my only gripe with DBT mods is that they plays exactly like PillowBlaster ones, all monsters seems to be no challenge for the guns, from all the variations the monsters has that he has shown in those videos, all of them were slammed with ease by some specific gun in few shots.

>>4447162
I hate when people uses Texture Rescaling thinking that is a nice filter to play with, i really hope Graf removes that cancer from GZDoom.

>>4447162
That glow looks like it would give me cancer just by looking at pictures of it.

So that's good.

>>4447162
>this is all it takes anymore to get guaranteed replies

a crate maze that's real fuckin' original right there.

>>4447198
i actually love the shit out of mazes for some reason

>>4447198
have you ever considered texture alignment?

a tacky ass room that was going to be a great hall for a cacowards showcase but was never extended past this and a cacodemon-shaped floor rug.

evil

>>4447198

Align your goddamn textures.

>>4447217
nothin personell...kid...

>>4447198
>Union Aerospa'apsoreA noinU

>>4447213
What?

>>4447198
this looks so wrong

Go away, sarais.>>4447216 >>4447198 >>4447162 >>4447156

>>4447230
tfw bisexual

>>4447230
UAIAC

>>4447235
lel

what's this a shitcanned HUMP map too? fascinating.

>>4447249
nobody cares

>>4447231
you know replying does nothing more than make it worse, right?

Memento Mori's difficulty is a rollercoaster. Some maps are really easy, others are tougher than I expected.

>>4447259
this is usual with old maps like those, it feels very surreal at times

>>4447263
TNT too.

There's a bunch of maps at the beginning and the middle, yet the last 10 or so are relatively easy.

>>4447267
i'm experiencing this now with Requiem too, and that has some maps from the Memento Mori guy
i picked it since it's at the top of the 1997 top 100 wads

Don't cry. I won't leave you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oob58T23tEw&t=1266s
it seems his lights look better than with the default brightmaps.pk3 and lights.pk3. is it that gldef.pk3 he's using and is it his own or something that i haven't found yet?

>>4447270
Requiem was such a mixed bag for me. Some maps felt like they were more about eyecandy and showing off newly discovered engine tricks of the time, rather than presenting fun gameplay. This especially felt true with Anthony Czerwonka's and Iikka Keranen's maps. Then theres the 3 demonfear maps (20, 25, 26) Adam Windsor contributed to it that, while fun on their own, feel really out of place in the mapset.

>>4447263
Yeah, High Tech Grave almost felt like Plutonia difficulty to me on UV, with large waves of enemies everywhere and nasty traps. But then the Mansion map after than was really chilled out and easy.
90's attempts at realistic buildings were so bad, that Mansion is just huge empty rooms with a handful of zombies roaming them mostly.

>watch a bunch of slaughter map UV-Max demos
>"that's very cool and all, but they've had a few hangups here and there, someone like me can definitely improve them just by dong all the same stuff except without hangups"
>try actually doing exactly what they do
>0.1% survival rate on each yolo strat
How many days worth of gameplay have those players dumped to finish them as fast as they did?

What wad do you want to watch sarais play?

>>4447316
Map10 is honestly among the duds of MM1. Very monotonous level. map12, and 25 are pretty shit, too.

>>4447323
do-it.wad live re-enactment

>>4447323
KDiZD, Blade of Agony, Stronghold, UTNT, well basically anything from T667 so he knows that overdetailing is not always the nicest thing to do.

>>4447331
If anything, him playing those will just give him bad ideas.

>>4447323
Seconding this >>4447327

why do people here seriously continue to engage someone who has shown literally no intention of improving and is likely evading anyway?

>>4447331
>KDiZD - already played
Blade of Agony - not my flavor
UTNT - never went past first room because of poor monster placements.
stronghold - this is cool except for the "one monster and you fucking lose" thing which isnt a problem parsay but i'd rather there be more of a leeway on most maps.

>>4447342
What are your favorite wads

>>4445772
Just letting everyone know, make sure you don't use the word nigger in this thread or you'll get a 2 week ban. Apparently the mods love nigger dick and just arrived here from Reddit.

>>4447350
There's a lot of them...

Going Down is a pretty nifty one.
Hellground and Hellbound respectively are also cool.
Sunder's pretty nifty; I'm thematically fond of "The Zealous Machine" and "Hive Mother"
Ancient Aliens is psychedelic as fuck.
Many Albertoni wads use very trippy visual effects; many not seen elsewhere to my knowledge.
50 Shades of Graytall is a nice project using minimal textures that most hate.
There's the obvious AV-DV-SCYTHE-HR-DIB-etc and so on classical megawads.
Many gimmick maps are quite pleasing.
Swim with the Whales is nice, as is anything by Skillsaw and Ribbiks, which I confused for the same person.
I really like the "Malevolent Horizon" wad for it's creepy surrealistic void-esque theme and SP_FACE spam.
VOID for... well, Void.
Demon Eclipse for being itself too.
I could go on but I'd be here all day. I like the concept behind slaughtermaps.

>>4447323
None, I don't want to give him attention. In fact I feel responding to this post is giving too much attention.

>>4447362
even if you acknowledge that you're responding to a shitter it's still bad
see
>>4447341

>>4447361
>Skillsaw and Ribbiks, which I confused for the same person
I'm finding this really funny. Besides maybe the later half of Valiant's E4, they're mapping styles are pretty night and day.

>>4447374
They seemed pretty similar to me. I guess it boils down to what wads of theirs they play.

Also coming to mind is the ZDCMP series, many of the JOM maps, Hadephobia, Nova sets of maps, Demons of Problematique...

>>4446802
>25 year cacoward megapack
Where do I download this?

>>4447383
next year, truth is he's from the future

>>4447163
>all monsters seems to be no challenge for the guns
Play D4D on UN difficulty then.

>>4447385
D4D is now maintained by MajorCooke FYI, probably he has changed things there, but mods started by DBT that has not been touched by any other modder suffers this problem.

Even though, i remember that D4D by the actual standards no matter difficulty, is plays hard in the beginning, after you pick upgrades you just slam everyone exactly like a PillowBlaster mod.

Is saving mid-map really a bad thing? I'm not talking about reloading every time you're left with 10 health or whatever, I mean saving after surviving a nasty fight or section in case the next one kills you this time.

>>4447409
depends. how gud do you want to git?

>>4447409
if you're a WEAKLING maybe.

>>4447409
It's generally seen as a skill thing.

>>4447394
isn't that exactly the way doom 4 plays though

>>4447380
I dunno. Skillsaw maps tend to remind me of the Scythes, Speed of Doom, and Suspended in Dusk.
Where as I don't get this vibe at all when I play Ribbiks maps, and more think of Sunder.

>>4447041
Imp Escape confirmed?

>>4447409
for me it was just something i grew out of, after a few years playing maps i found myself remembering to save less and less and doing entire maps without feeling the need to save

>>4447436
I just dropped a link, in case someone could have used it, to make something neat out of it.

>>4447432
Not 100% like that but it goes close, specially for the inf ammo when above 100 armor, however that is a condition for keeping things unbalanced, in D4D there's no condition, you just open up a room with like 50 monsters and you can explode everyone with weapons that is not even meant to be all that OP so...

>>4447409
I only savescum with mods because custom enemies are total cunts most of the time and having them get the drop on you can be real fuckin nasty

>>4447324
Map10 was one of my favorite levels to play in MM back then, but in hindsight it might have just been because of how fucking great the song was.

It plays in a bunch of later levels anyway.

>>4447409
I find you learn from your mistakes more, and refine your survival skills if you have to restart from the beginning. Saving midlevel should be reserved if the map is like an hour or so long.

>>4447446
I'm playing it with Xeotroid's cover mod and it was an amazing track. I generally use his covers whenever they're available for the wad I'm playing, he's pretty good.

>>4447446
I often dream of making a two map wad thats set in a City/Castle, where map01 is the city and uses the 15/22 MM1 midi, and and map02 is the castle, and uses 10/24/32 MM1 midi.

>>4447409
I see no real problem with it, sure it's more tense to play a whole map without the safety net of checkpoints, but its more of a challenge than the legitimate way to play. If I recall, the original Doom manuals actually recommended that you save often.
It's like pistol starts. Some people here insist on playing that way, but there's nothing inherantly wrong with playing continuously either.

>>4447409
The way I see it not being good enough to play through a mapset without saves is a good thing. You're lacking in skill, yes, but that's the perfect excuse to play the game AGAIN later. The whole point of a game is to play it, yes? Wanting to play it again to see if you've gotten better is a good thing.

>>4447409

It's not really a bad thing, it's only really bad when you start saving constantly every encounter.
I tend to ironman through maps all the time, to the point where I forget to save. Bit of a pain when I die right next to the exit and have to start all over again.
I've found that a good middling point is saving every time you pick up a key.

Today on Heretic II: "Itsa Trap!", now in NullHD!

>>4447519
I'd kill for an Aria Of Sorrow mod/TC.

Is it true the bots for quake 1 were just glorified automated aimbots that had very unrealistic aim to them.

>>4447084
This looks great !

ULTRA
THIN

>>4447529
Someone needs to make Metroidvania mod in general. FPS Metroidvanias have a lot of untapped potential.

>>4447537
that's how most bots in games work
you ever played against godlike UT bots? those fuckers will put xaero to shame

>>4447585
Gross.

You know what really needed Final Doomer classes? The Unofficial Final Doom: Perdition's Gate and Hell To Pay.

>>4447593
Are there any FPS games of this style besides the Prime Trilogy and Hexen?

Don't hang out with Heretics - they might teach you bad things

>>4447585
>>4447623
It's a real trip seeing this stuff again.

>>4447621
I wouldn't call Hexen metroidvania style. Its hubs are self-contained, and can't be revisited upon completion. Theres also no player ability upgrade system that unlocks previously unavailable areas, instead focusing on switch hunts.

awes

>>4447409
I'll stop saving when mapmakers stop dropping me in front of archviles

wizard mod progress. I've decided to add a couple of supplementary weapons. Spells will be make up the bulk of your arsenal, but sometimes mana runs low and you need something to fall back on.

So here's a scatter crossbow that shoots 6 small ripper bolts. It is about the same strength as the shotgun, maybe a little stronger due to the ripping nature of the projectiles.

You can also use your right hand spell while weilding this weapon

>>4447634

>>4447668
>filtered

>>4447668
You should get a tripcode so I can apply a filter of my own

>>4447668

>>4447671

>>4447409
I'm not ashamed to save mid-map with stuff like Eviltech and its long ass maps.

>>4445773
I doubt the results will change in two hours. Space Castle it is. If anyone wants to submit a titlepic, that would be appreciated. You can start your maps now, with these stipulations:

1. Boom-compatible levels are heavily preferred.
2. Levels 31 and 32 will not be secret levels. The maps in slot 15 and 27 will have their normal exits set as secret exits.
3. The Wolf3D stuff and Keens can be used.
4. Custom resources are acceptable within reason. Monsters: yes, textures: yes, weapons: no.
5. This is not a speedmapping project. Take time to perfect your level. Playtest it and have others playtest it.
6. For the more excessive in theme mixing: Urban Space Castle, Hell Space Castle, and Urban Hell Space Castle maps will also be accepted, as long as the Space Castle theme is at the forefront. I really would like to see Urban Hell Space Castle get pulled off.

>>4447712
>Urban Hell Space Castle Forest
SOUNDS LIKE A JOB FOR ME

>>4447712
Why did I think Map27 was a secret exit level? Disregard that, I've gone loopy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXIDEapaLc

>>4447619
I'd like to see Memento Mori get one.

I don't think that's how physics work
Aloso self-breaking and self-repairing carts all in 5 sec!

>>4447712
Whatever you do, don't let you know who participate.

>>4447537
>>4447601
Yeah, for most games making a flawless, perfect AI isn't particularly difficult. It's easy for the game to just have the bot 'know' where all the players are, path to them as efficiently as their pathfinding with allow, and then the exact frame that they have a LOS, fire at the perfect angle.

What's hard is making a bot that isn't perfect, but still seems smart. Ideally you'd be able to find some method that the AI doesn't need to 'cheat' or take into account information that a player in the same situation wouldn't know, but still manage to be competent.

You also typically need to introduce some 'human' error; for an FPS bot, they can't have perfect aim. Sometimes it can be hard to have an AI make 'mistakes' or play imperfectly without having them do things that seem retarded, making blatantly wrong moves.

>>4447767
wat

any cool short (5-7 maps) pack of levels come out lately?

I gotta get my doom on but I really don't want to have to pad out an entire megawad through an entire month like I always do

>>4447778
TNT Resistance is 8 levels, if thats okay.

>>4447765
Hey, if you have patch 1.07 can you record a bit of the first person view? Curious about it. Should be F2 or F3 or some such.

>>4445886
Who does he think he is, Raiden?

>>4447794
JPCPguy's NRG Katana + Berserk is effectively its SSG equivalent, shit even cuts through Revenant projectiles

>>4447793
It dangles a semi-transparent player model before your face every time you move so its not good at all

>>4447808
Ah. Gay. It's a shame it can't just attach the camera to the neck joint, and raise is a few units inside the head... or can it... TO THE CONSOLE COMMANDS

>>4447816
>>4447808
I looked it up, you can't really. You can make the player 100% invisible, but that's kinda useless since you kinda need to be able to see what you're doing.

Thanks for the vid showing it off though

You can play Tomb raider first person here:
http://xproger.info/projects/OpenLara/

It works pretty okay.

>>4447712
Forgot the skies like an idiot.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=20706468009554183909

Screw Cancer, all this filterposting is the goddamn Plague!

Maybe I should use red HOT bricks instead.
I do want to make use of the blue wolfen rock for the castle though.

Report and Ignore all S'Arais and Filter posts

>>4447712
>If anyone wants to submit a titlepic, that would be appreciated. You can start your maps now
I thought you were making your own maps, not asking others to?
>4443747

>>4447835
>>4447845
>we already have custom skies
Oh, alright. Switching.

>>4447858
I am going to be making maps for this project though. Why would any self-respecting project lead not do so?

>>4447743
>Camera focuses on half of cart left behind
>That sick ollie
Brilliant.

>>4447769
>for most games making a flawless, perfect AI isn't particularly difficult
I'd say proper pathfinding and decision making is pretty difficult. otherwise you have an AI that's dumb as bricks and can be easily outplayed.

>>4447858
oops, missed an arrow.
>>4443747

>>4447864
I just mean I wasn't aware it was going to be a community project.

>>4447878
Ah, gotcha.

>>4447873
Pathfinding is probably the most challenging aspect of AI, yeah, but as for decision-making - assuming you, as someone making the game, understands what the optimal strategy is - it isn't terribly difficult.

Some games the optimal strategy might not be immediately apparent, but even then you ought to have at least a good idea of what works. It really depends on the specific mechanics of the game tho.

>>4447836
you are literally no better you babyraging faggot

>>4447947
Eh, he can at least see properly which is more than you can say about the sorry fuckers who think filters look good.

>>4447845

bambydam

>>4447712
>titlepic
Well that one looks just fine and dandy.

>>4447602
uncooked megasphere .png

>>4448139
lol very good

Has anyone tried playing Doom with a Steam Controller?

>>4447781
that was exaggeratedly long for me goddamn it's almost embarrassing.

would have been probably a lot more enjoyable and briefer overall if I hadn't fucking gone insane trying to autistically conserve health and armor by avoiding those fucking chaingunners, shotgunners and revenants through the last 5 or so maps.

>zombieman fires three consecutive shots
>all three hit
stop

>>4448173
>That DUMP3 level where you run back and forth to hit switches while a row of zombiemen shoot you when the best thing you have is a pistol

>DOOM II Trivia: The ICON OF SIN is actually not one of the four given names for the end boss of DOOM II.
>Name 1: In the DOOM II Official Guide, the end boss is called Dark One.
>Name 2: Final DOOM's manual refers to the end boss as Baphomet, upon which it was originally based.
>Name 3: In TNT Evilution in Final DOOM, it's known as Demon-Spitter which also corresponds to the sound effect names starting with DS.
>Name 4: Last, and also from Final DOOM, it's referred to as Gatekeeper in The Plutonia Experiment. Icon of Sin is the level name.

>>4447341
I wonder how do they act irl?

>>4445837
More importantly, why does he look like a nigger?

>>4446786
who is the Harvey Weinstein of the cacowards committee?

>>4446790
Depends, whose the most obnoxiously socially justice-y?

a crate maze that's real fuckin' original right there.

evil

>>4448221
that's not what DS sounds for

what's this a shitcanned HUMP map too? fascinating.

Don't cry. I won't leave you.

>>4448241
You're just giving the poor janitors more work to do, man. Get over yourself.

what inspired you to repost a bunch of deleted replies? i'm curious about the thought process that led to that decision.

>>4445772
Just letting everyone know, make sure you don't use the word nigger in this thread or you'll get a 2 week ban. Apparently the mods love nigger dick and just arrived here from Reddit.

awes

>>4447671

Report and Ignore all S'Arais and Filter posts

>>4448228
they're guaranteed to be complete fucking closeted autists with anemic social skills much to no one's surprise. it's a fact. they probably take joy in the fact that people know calling them autists is a tired cliche at this point. that post-irony will save their asses, but we all know better by now.

they do not, however, because their cognitive abilities and their scope don't extend far past the basic notion of starting shit and doing mental gymnastics to call someone a faggot over an ethernet port.

>>4448245

A topic I cared about and wanted to contribute to was deleted. So now >>4448243 .

>>4448252

faggot

>>4448253
Can you at least shitpost with a name? Don't even have to be "Sarais", you can just go by "filterfag" or "shitmunch" or whatever strikes your fancy.

Just make it so people can filter you and you're good to post whatever garbage screenshots you'd like.

>>4448253
which topic was that?
there's been lots of stuff deleted

>>4447712
>Urban Hell Space Castle
Like a demon castle market village?

>>4448252
>over an ethernet port
showing your age here sadly. well i say that, there's probably ethernet involved somewhere but the end user these days is most likely connected via an antenna.

>>4448203
this is cute and oddly feminine. must be the eyelashes.

>>4448268
where the fuck did I say something like that in my case?

>>4448268
You use an ethernet port to connect to a router with an ethernet cable, i.e. non-wirelessly. Like, that was a pretty common way of connecting an Xbox 360, since otherwise you needed a specific overpriced wireless adaptor (or like one of five compatible ones).

I don't think you have to be an old dude to know what an ethernet port is.

>>4448274
Right at the end, my dude
>>4448252

>>4448275
no. I mean I never said I used one.

>>4448279
I think >>4448268 was thinking that because you thought people, not necessarily you, used ethernet cables (which they definitely still do, so idk) that you must be familiar with early internet devices and thus be old.

>>4448264

A topic on videogame books. I contributed some, but wanted to upload improved versions. Thanks to some faggot Janitor, I didn't get to.

>>4448281
oh an entirely different thread? i thought you meant something that was deleted from this one.

>>4447712
>>4447878
Me too, I thought you just wanted to make a wad yourself and was asking for a theme
There was nothibg in the original post to imply a community project

>>4448280
haha, not right now I don't. I'd kill for a wire right about now. this wifi connection sucks pinky dick

>>4448262

Dude, I don't even have beef specifically with you. You're just the only method of getting the little fucker's attention. If Q and A were worth a damn I'd take it up there, but at this point it's just /trash/ by another name. It's not even listed by default, because they prolly don't *want* to "hear from the userbase".

>>4448285
what is this

>>4448282

Ya. Like I said, normally I don't wander in here (no motive), but if the asshole is going to make my life harder, I'll certainly retaliate in kind.

>>4448285
I don't have any idea what the fuck you mean by any of this. Whose attention do you want? Why?

I'll say it again, get over yourself.

>>4448286

Janny in full damage control mode. Don't worry, I've been nominated by him for a ban, so this won't last for too much longer.

>>4448274
your post appeared to assume the default / most common way to post was over a wired connection (ethernet). i believe the kids all do it differently these days.
also, for the needlessly aggressive tone in your reply, i would like to invite you kindly to go fuck yourself.

>>4448291

>i have not a fucking clue how 4chan moderation werks 'cause i'm from zdoom forums abloobloobloo!!!!

Cry me a river, doombabby.

>>4448287
yet for some reason you chose this thread in particular to shit up?

>>4448296
sadly it's the most prominent target. this would be a dead board with like 10 posts a day if it weren't for doom threads.

>>4448295
If you think a janitor ticking a box and hitting 'delete' for all the posts from your IP is "getting his attention", and if you want a janitor's attention in the first place... I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who's being a child here.

>>4448294
I wasn't trying to be aggressive. that was supposed read more like a confused question than a genuine 'what the fuck are you talking about' because I wasn't too sure what it is you were implying

>>4448301

>...I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who's being a child here.

This is known as "being incorrect about something". I'd get used to this, anyone who thinks Blade is legitimately some hot shit is bound to encounter it quite a fucking bit throughout his life.

>>4448302
fair enough, call it a cultural misunderstanding.

>>4448302
Tone is impossible to determine over text, and people will almost always interpret things as aggressive if there's ambiguity... probably something to be gleaned about the human mind from that. Adding an image can help indicate tone, for example
>pic related

>>4448304
Oh no, my jimmies, you're rustling them so much.

But if you don't think that's a fuckin' grade-A line you can get the fuck right outta here... but I guess you're going to be gettin' the fuck outta here soon regardless once you get banned, heh.

>>4448304
NHB i think the quote is quite appropriate, regardless of what you think of the character (who is indeed a bit of a special snowflake)

>>4448308
>>4448310
noted, sorry for the confusion

What does this have to do about Doom?

>>4448315
not him, and not much, but it helps us all to understand each other

>>4448315
a single nobody vs a group of people he demonizes.

>>4448313
I swear to god this gif makes my day everytime.

The ending of Heretic 2 is bullshit.

"Oh no, I'm not evil anymore!"(Yet I will still use my Evil Voice)
"I will ascend to the higher state and become a benevolent god, despite all the evils I have caused!"
"See, I openly acknowledge them so Im not all that evil in the end!"
"BTW have fun cleaning up my mess lol."

>>4447574
Thank you. I hope that it will be worth the wait. Tomorrow is the date!

>>4448313
When you try to adjust your belt but then you squeeze your stomach too much and you start farting and it makes you laugh but then someone starts shaking the box to make you keep quiet.

>>4448313
Oh my god is that revenant okay?

>>4448362
No, he's turned to jelly.

>>4448370
Is he getting drunk on jelly?

>>4447621
The console versions of exhumed/powerslave, sort of. The levels aren't persistent, and you always start each from the same point, but you unlock new levels by the exits you take, and you unlock new abilities as you progress through the game.

>>4448371
Jell-o shots

>>4448371
He is skeleton jelly

>>4448375
I'm glad someone saw what I was getting at.
I'm sad there's no real conclusion to this comic though, other than poor Skeleton Jelly sliding off into the city after his bones (?) get eaten

>>4448375
i don't get it

>>4448375
>Skeleton Jelly
Fuck me! For a sec I thought I'd strayed into Warframe.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58526

A mod to surpass brtldm.

>>4448313
>>4448375
Dat skelly is jelly!

>>4448383
wow it's like one of those awful 90s sound mods
plus combined_arms, for some reason.
also what is with the ghost mancubus? sprite error?

>>4448386
Where do you get the Combined_Arms comparison?

>>4448387
the video in the thread has it loaded
https://www.youtube.com/embed/BMYBAHeZtfs

>>4448390
there is another video but i don't recognise the mod. or the mapset.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/8wuUMn9OQi0

>>4448390
I'm kinda offended to see this played with these monsters. His download link is shady as fuck too.

God, I'm really itching for some Doom.
Was that Alfonzo ZDoom mapset any good? How does it play? I understand it's divided up into episodes.

>>4448347
>"Oh no, I'm not evil anymore!"(Yet I will still use my Evil Voice)
As far as I remember, the boss, Morcalavin was not evil to begin with. He just tried to do this spell of ascension thing, for which he unknowingly used a fake tome, which resulted in the spell driving him insane, because there would be no plot otherwise. You replace the fake tome with your real one, completing the spell for good. This magically cures Morcalavin's insanity then he ascends to godhood or something, cause that's what the spell was originally supposed to do.

>>4448393
Now we've had enough "high quality" texture resizing filters for the day. Baffles me to no end how somebody would actually go ahead and disable the bilinear filtering, then go ahead and consciously turn this shit on.

>>4448407
The problem of the scene lies in the execution.
He doesen't sound remorseful of his actions at all, he says some bullshit (exact quote): "The dead can not be reborn, but the Parthoris will flourish again as I rise. Undo the wrongs that I've done!", and he says it in the exact same "condescending, growling evil voice" and tone he used to threaten you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJT7M--vqqY

>>4448357
when you try to take the phone case off but you just clipped your nails

Why does doom and quake get their files for download but not duke nukem 3D?

>>4448458
Confused-looking_anime_girl_with_question_marks above_her_head.exe

>>4448461
Game files for doom and quake are available but not for duke nukem 3D

>>4448463
Now reword that in a way that actually makes sense.

>>4448475
Why doesn’t OP provide piracy for duke nukem 3D?

>>4448479
OP does not provide piracy for anything.
Crack Scene provides piracy.

>>4448417
Was just pointing out that the lore says Morcalavin is not intrinsically evil at all. I do agree the scene could have been executed better. Always thought it was goofy as hell. Especially the bit where just floats away. Watched it to refresh my memory, and yeah. His voice does retain that harsh raspy quality, which might make it harder to notice, but I feel that his tone actually becomes way more relaxed and less threatening. The scene is still stupid, though.

>>4447989
Hey guise what's goin' on in this th-
oh lawd

>>4448237
>>4448221
doomsound or some such iirc.
all doom sounds have that prefix. dsssg, dssawup etc.

>>4447646
how about blank wands that you "charge" with a spell (costing you one cast, maybe with restrictions) but usable 50 times?

i need wallpapers! doom wallpapers!
(preferably in 4:3 por favor)

Is it possible to use shareware releases of doom/quake/hexen/duke/whatever for mapping?

>>4448592
It is, but you'll be down on a lot of resources.

>>4448592
You could just get the full versions from OP

>Doom 1 has fast paced blistering heavy metal music on almost every level
>a lot of the game is focused on exploration and tension

>Doom 2 has slower more progressive and methodical music
>the game is just rooty tooty point n shooty 100% of the time

Explain

>>4448635
I don't know the reasoning, but that's more or less why I like Ultimate Doom more than Doom II in vanilla form. Hell I think Doom 1 did its slower atmospheric music better than 2 did.

>>4448635
>>the game is just rooty tooty point n shooty 100% of the time
no it isn't.

>>4448646
compared to the first one it pretty much is

>>4448653
perhaps i had the opposite experience due to playing doom2 before doom1/ultimate. i don't remember doom2 being all that tense, likely because i used far too low a skill level for my first ever experience with a doom game, but when i finally got doom1 after a year with doom2 only, i breezed through E1-E3 in a few hours. it was anything but tense, because i already knew how to play. also since my computer at the time had no capability to play midi music, the music had no effect on my experience.

>>4448635
>Doom 1 has fast paced blistering heavy metal music on almost every level
You're also wrong on this one, Ultimate Doom have more than half of the songs very ambient based, some of those do have a fast tempo but this doesn't mean they are essentially heavy metal as in their MIDI form.

>>4448678
When anybody says otherwise, you pretty much know their entire experience is of episode 1 and probably not even complete at that.

>>4446045

Beams going across with some kind of chandeleirs or something would look cool

>>4448678
You've got to eat your vegetables

>>4447646
I wish we could do the same thing in Lithium instead of having to select the spells to use them.

>>4448518
>>4447715
lookin gud

>>4448397
it's ok. full of little maps, some good, some bad. very similar to strange aeons in overall gameplay quality.

>>4445773
[12-08] Bytesize maps: 10 small (100-line) maps by traversd
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98218-bytesize-maps/

>>4446280
perhaps hes 25. it doesnt matter at this point he has been around for eons

>>4446995
Ive been to like 4 of them. oddly enough the brutal doom one is the best imo. the r/doom one is kinda meh but what would you expect from a discord based off a terrible subreddit. every other post there is "does any1 still play D44M MP???"

>>4445772
https://www.threadless.com/product/8433?utm_source=threadvent&utm_medium=standard_10&utm_campaign=threadvent_YUM_11_20_17

What do you think?

>>4448868
that gun looks like a retexture of the CS:S p90

>>4448870
i think i'm not clicking on that

>>4448871
It is a P90.
In fairness, I would be ok with using a P90 in a sci-fi film, even a Doom film, they look futuristic and cool.

>>4448870
Personally, I don't get the reference. Some meme?

>>4448917
it's monty python, you fucking idiot. the oldest meme.

>>4448139
Now I have a chaingun

Ho
Ho
Ho

>>4448915
It got used in Stargate so much that nobody in sci-fi wants to use it for fear of being compared to it.

>>4445772
Just finished my first ever playthrough of Doom, loved it. What should I play next? I have Doom 2/TNT/Plutonia, Heretic/Hexen(s), and Strife.

>>4448868
>The Doom movie poster acknowledges Hell being a big part of Doom.
>The movie itself doesn't.
Were they scared of angering a bunch of religious guys or something?

>>4448948
They were probably just hoping it would appeal to a wider audience.

>>4448943
Doom 2, obviously.
It's more Doom but with some new and more interesting enemies, and a single new weapon (Super Shotgun) that you'll be using an awful lot due to how satisfying and powerful it is.
The maps are inferior to Doom 1's though.

>>4448954
>The maps are inferior to Doom 1's though.
in looks, maybe. and only E1. doom2 plays better than doom1, and not just because of the new monsters/weapon, but because the maps are larger and more open, with far fewer cramped mazes.

>>4448951
>boring old soldiers vs mutants
vs
>soldiers vs hell itself
Hollywood is stupid. The movie would have been much better if they stuck to the original theme and idea. Imagine The Rock using the BFG on a bunch of Hellknights in actual Hell. It would have been amazing.

>>4448951
weird, i would have thought a plague of demons from the bowels of hell itself would have had more appeal than some nonsense about genetic mutation from a serum with an inexplicable sense of morality