/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4445483
>Use all healing items trying to beat him
>You were meant to lose
That's when I almost dropped the game.

"I don't need to map dungeons, how hard can it be?"

>>4445493
>jrpg has a 'forced loss' battle
>game doesn't also check the player's damage healed to end the battle, in case the player survives for too long

fuck this right off

>>4445498
>Game gives you a powerful item for cheesing through the fight you were supposed to lose

>>4445897
Polo

>scripted battle
>you already know you are meant to lose so you kill yourself on purpose to get it over with
>turns out, you are suppose to survive until a specific turn and now you are game over'd

>Hope you were using this character with a shit skill set and shit design haha
One of the many reasons this game is trash

>game splits up your party and cuts off access to one or more characters you were using actively with no forewarning
>doesn't return the good items that they had equipped to your inventory

>>4446056
It's really ironic, some years ago I played La Pucelle and Jeanne 'Darc on PSP within nearby time proximity of each other and both games did this gay thing where they take away your main character and force you to grind with a weak character for a while.

>>4446059
>game requires you to transfer magic between party members every time there's a party change
>sometimes it doesn't warn you so you end up in the middle of a boss fight with unequipped characters with shit stats
Can you guess which game I'm talking about?

>>4446062
design decisions don't have sexual orientations, anon.

>character dies
>goodbye equipments

>>4446067
ffvii?

>>4446075
Close. It's FFVIII. (unless you made a typo)

>>4446067
I found switching espers between characters in VI annoying

>>4446056
Reasons why that game is "trash", fellow redditor:
>barely any romance with Katt
>Sten solo segment (worst contender)
>you are scripted to lose
That's all. Pretty much the same amount of flak that can be given to Breath of Fire III:
>can't win what is scripted
>forced to bring along under-leveled characters for their special abilities
>characters except for MC are weak without bothering with training system
Don't really understand why people only talk about II as if it's the only game that does this. Parasite Ever forces you to replay a 4 stage battle with unskippable FMVs if you walk in the wrong direction, yet no scum-fuck on /vr/ had ever criticized it (Parasite Eve II is a much better game).

>>4446067
It's almost certainly Final Fantasy. I'd say VIII due to it's bullshit draw-equip system.

>>4446056
>Not using all of your party members equally, no matter if you like or dislike them.

And that's how every Suikoden game lasted me close to a hundred hours.

>>4446087
>terrible encounter rate
>items that reduce the encounter rate don't work
>enemies give shit exp
>can't switch between characters in battle like in the first game
>the requirements for the earth shaman is retarded
>game removes your shaman set ups in the final dungeon
>can lose your shaman set up if a character's hp gets low, have fun going back to your HQ to reequip them because an enemy used Death lmao
>terrible dungeon design (like the one where you have to pick the right mushroom for the old guy, or the one where you have to clear the fat queen's bloodstream)
>fishing and hunting suck dick
>can screw yourself over if you pick the wrong carpenter (I did)
>don't have enough room for all the people you can recruit
>you can actually recruit worthless people that do nothing and you can't kick them out
>constant trekking through the world map fighting the same shit monsters
>have to use certain characters to reach certain places but you can't switch between them on the fly
>the story only gets interesting half way through

worse than most NES rps I've played, but hey bravo for using the reddit defense

>>4446113
>the story only gets interesting half way through
I story never gets interesting.
>terrible encounter rate
Just like in I and III.
>enemies give shit exp
They don't.
>can't switch between characters in battle like in the first game
Can't switch in III either, different mechanics.
>the requirements for the earth shaman is retarded
The requirements for ultimate shit in most games are retarded.
>game removes your shaman set ups in the final dungeon
Use characters more carefully.
>can lose your shaman set up if a character's hp gets low
Use characters more carefully and abuse Exit spell with death warping to get back fast.
>terrible dungeon design
Can't be worse than I.
>fishing and hunting suck dick
You are retarded.
>can screw yourself over if you pick the wrong carpenter
The only game where choices are permanent?
>don't have enough room for all the people you can recruit
Management ability which you lack is nothing to do with the game.
>you can actually recruit worthless people that do nothing and you can't kick them out
Risk. You can check people's backgrounds by talking to them.
>constant trekking through the world map fighting the same shit monsters
99% of RPGs.
>have to use certain characters to reach certain places
Read my previous post, retard.
>worse than most NES rps I've played
There are like 2 NES RPGs that are actually worth playing Breath of Fire I isn't one of them.

You are wrong on all accounts. The reason why people will always go boogeyman on your opinions is because of how ignorant you make them look.

>>4446138
you're retarded kattfag, your waifu is shit and your game is shit

that is all

>>4446150
Thanks for sigh of relief, I was about to think that someone is actually that much retarded.

Now I actually do.

How does it feel that BoFII and Katt are more popular than whatever shit you like?

Glad this board is dead.

>>4446056
I actually did use Sten a lot because he looked cool and turned into a badass genie, and I still got my shit kicked in by Turbo

>>4445483
>"Oh, I get it! I'm supposed to die to this guy!"
>I wasn't

>>4446067
>most of the game chooses your party for you
>game has a gimmick where you have to build a "deck" out of six combinations of classes you switch between in a fight
>boss battle forces a party switch
>game deletes your entire deck and replaces it with a shitty automatic one
>you basically have to die on your first attempt just so you can build a deck that isn't total ass

>>4446073
>character dies
>everything they have transferred to a new character
>in fact, the game just changes sprites and name of the same character

>>4446979
Galuf? He has different stat gains compared to Krile

>>4447059
legend of dragoon pulls that shit out twice, also spoiler

>>4446593
Is this Final Fantasy 13?

> thinks you are meant to lose
> game over

>>4447062
Albert is faster though.

>>4446062
You would lothe SaGa Frontier 2.

>>4447731
People had trouble against that guy?

>>4447734
The fuck are you talking about?

>>4447739
petrify, doom, sleep, toad.

i had a bad time against him.

>>4447740
Albert compared to Lavitz has much different Addition timing, usually faster. His stats are the same but they did make them sufficiently different.

>>4444444

>>4447748
Oh, that. I thought you were talking about stats. Yeah, his additions are harder.

>>4445483
Who is that? I've played bof2 to death

>>4448896
the guy who fucks katt

>go to new town
>spend all your gold on new equipment for the party
>dungeon crawl and spread important items to several characters because of limited inventory
>one cutscene later
>oops two party members leave for good taking all the new gear and items with them, lol!

>>4447354
Yes. The damn Eidolon fights in particular.

Spoilered because not retro.

>character changes class at a pivotal story point
>game resets their level back to 1

Why in the fuck even

>>4446062
>La Pucelle
What a catty name

>>4449095
Considering the PSP has a side story where she becomes THIS, yes it really is.

>>4449130
T H I C C

>>4447731
I thought this at a certain other battle.

"Draw your sword, Ramza."

>>4445897
Actually thought this was really cool in Lufia 2 since I was used to the FF5 unbeatable encounters. Besides, if you cared enough to train and strategize a way to beat them you were going to sail through the game anyway, might as well give you a tool to speed up a few of the weak mob encounters so you could get to parts that were actually challenging like the Ancient Cave.

this is a battle meant to lose, right!?

>>4449752
you named the main character fox

>supposed to lose
>beat him
>joins you

>>4445483
Tch... nothing personnel, whelp.

>>4445897
The bombs, right?
Based Lufia.