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=== NEWS ===

[11-27] Complex Doom v27 update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58535

[11-27] Final Doomer 2.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55061

[11-26] More /vry/spooky updates for testing
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1y2p36esp3nx4k/vryspooky_3.rar?dl=1

[11-26] Anon map release: whirlwind.wad (using textures from epic2)
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B1NxOZlEf5aNWDNMcnJNdjZ6aGc

[11-25] Hunter's Moon - Razor's Cluster Bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQfVuRk3_FI

[11-25] Babel now finalized, in testing >>4419193
https://mega.nz/#!nhFQHCAC!iotxW8TzkyPJNOZ-SfsMYc6QQio2lnxBnJRzS3LD4XM

[11-25] Doom Retro v2.6 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1819998

[11-25] Potential Mockaward Candidate
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=56943

[11-24] The Joy of Mapping 5 starting on December 1st
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98041-the-joy-of-mapping-5-winter-weekend/

[11-23] Marrub releases Lithium 1.5.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54904&start=255#p1028244

[11-20] TNT:Evilution UV Speed D2ALL in 38:58 by ZeroMaster
https://youtu.be/_eOuHA_g0yo

[11-20] Anon wad: sky by Lud/YukiHerz from zdoom forums, for ultdoom
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pp94gn5f6l4yboo/LudSky.wad

[11-20] A Quake Champions mod for Doom has single player support
https://youtu.be/WFSrKNDNGtQ

[11-20] Anon map: Moonwalker1.wad
https://mega.nz/#!BtVxmRbT!yA5ZZy8TGBSlih8aYFxjzWpZ6OLr4A8qazFzOcYKj2g

[11-20] FKER Enemies Only updated for High Noon Drifter compat (fixed 11-22)
https://mega.nz/#!7pdVgAgB!JggL5NzFWfgos7TmLt6wo3IzJBJInw-cRXcZbw9ZBuU

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>>4424083
>[11-27] Final Doomer 2.0 released
Bull fucking loney.

>>4424096
Final Doomer now, brother.

>>4424080
Recommend me a better megawad than pic related.
I'm having a hard time thinking of one. Best shit I've played as of recent.

>>>/wsg/1992891
Need to redo the grapple cuz I've gotten a lot better at zscript since I last touched. Fun to use combined with jetpack though.

>>4423939
>>4423978

These are decorative beams, in the future this map is set, all kinds of ornamental lighting is avaliable.

Got to a Novice mapping level half a year ago and fell off the track. Hoping to get back into shape by participating in JoM5. I'm going through tutorials again to get ready, it starts Dec 1st.

Anyone else going to join in?

>>4424151
This reminds me of a mapset I played where one of the levels was a medieval court/village.

>>4424154
It's a very pretty screenshot. I think it's from the upcoming REKKR wad.

I guess running around like a retard is a viable strategy.

I have to drink that stuff for scanning yourvstomach. Yul

>Do majority of JPCP's fourth map with the silenced pistol and katana
>There's no archvile and shitton of chaingunners/shotgunners to take care of
Heh

So, for which WADs does Final Doomer have custom weapons?

Rocket jump to Marsh where it was imps how it did it Kneed Deep about the shot around the corner

hey trying to play Shadow Warrior Classic Complete through GoG for the first time, I downloaded a port called SWP but the audio is fucking awful. It's all slow and warped sounding. I'm assuming it's probably the framerate affecting it.

Is there a better port out there or is there a setting I need to turn off/on? I remember I used Eduke way back when I played that, should I just use that?

>>4424304
read the changelog fella. it's linked in the thread in the news post, or here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9y1b89nklci5h1/FDChangelog.txt
tnt plutonia ancient_aliens jpcp btsx

>Started playing TNT with vanilla a while ago
>basically halfway done
>now there is a weapon set and I'm torn on just starting again or continuing

>>4424394
Could 'idclev' to whatever level you were on, and use 'give' if you don't want to pistol start

Why is Polymer fucking garbage

>>4424394
finish it vanilla, don't be a pleb.

>>4424194
In AA that's kind of the point.

>>4424394
Even with Final Doomer weaponset TNT was rather underwhelming.

>>4424468
Maybe I'm just bad at video games, but I'm going through it for the first time and I think it's a lot of fun. I just got done with Plutonia a couple of weeks ago. I appreciate how the maps can be a challenge without spamming dozens of Revenants in every room.

>>4424080
Alright, so I tried Final Doomer 2 (never tried the first one) and here's one thing that annoys me:

The recoil effect on some of the guns makes the mouse movement "hitch" and stutter, while nearly same effect on other guns does not. It feels as if my mouse stops moving for one frame, then gets back to it.

If tuned off in the options menu, the hitching disappears, but even the smallest bit of recoil (0.1) while unnoticable in stationary position, mkes the mouse movement hitch again.

Aother curious thing: most continuously firing weapon seem to utilise a different method of recoil and produce no such "hitching" effect, while others do.

This hitching gets on my nerves greately, to the point when Im unable to use some guns, even though I like the mod a lot. Sure, I could turn the effect off completely, but the guns loose a lot of their feel with that.

Here's a sample webm, if you look at it frame-by-frame you will see that at some point in firing animation, camera turns back to the previous position at some point in the animation, before returning back where it should be.
Why and how does htis happen and is there any way to fix this without turning off the recoil completely?
Maybe switch the way recoild works on these weapons to the method use in those weapons that don't do that?

Why does Final Doomer TNT Marine move so slow when not running? Really sluggish compared to vanilla.

>>4424537
Shit I thought I was nuts when that was happening to me earlier.

>>4424537
It has somethingto do with the recoil, I imagine, since it's not simple pitch rising.

>>4424603
I know that it has somethign to do with the recoil. I just explained it in the post.
There appears to be 2 methods by which the mod does the recoiling: one produces the hitch, the other one does not.
Turning recoil off disables both methods and gets rid of the hitching, but also removes feedback from weapons.
This has to get fixed.

>Tried Ancient Aliens after reading the thread rave about it
It looks really cool and the music is great, but that may mostly be the music cover mod I'm using for it.
God damn this is some ridiculously hard stuff though, I'm guessing this isn't really meant for shitters like myself. I found Plutonia hard enough.

>>4424693
It starts with gimmicky levels. Basically put, first five or so levels are "puzzles" of sort - you have to figure out what to do, and when you do it actually becomes pretty simple, and if you are having trouble means that you are doing something wrong in the sequence of actions you have to take.

How good is Final Doome + in the latest version of Gzdoom?

>>4424703
>tight ambushes and monster spam are puzzles

It's tedious game design.

>>4424759

>Final Doomer 2.0 released
And is yet another tragic victim of Graf's total incompetence with the ACS string table. I wonder if he'll ever fix it.

>>4424815
I think randi is the primary culprit for that

>>4424829
You may be right, either way the fact that they've known since March and haven't done shit about it bothers me.

>>4424838
what's wrong with the acs string table?

>>4423819
>Ape Escape Doom when?
just running after a shitload of zombies in stupid hats?

>>4424854
It could be like Chex Quest, with teleporting Imps back to hell, but other enemies are still killable, while there's items from AE, like the magic punch and the sling shoot.

>>4424858
would the romero head sprite need a helmet too?
as the boss monster and all

Now it lets you play with Quake 2 enemies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqG-ThvphbA

>>4424864
Maybe, i dunno.

>>4424869
This video makes me wonder. Is there anything similar to Smooth Doom for Quake?

how the fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3H_7J-Atw

>>4424874
Model animation interpolation? Several ports have it.

>>4424869
What's Bitterman's special supposed to be?

>>4424537

I think its due to the pitch having SPF_INTERPOLATE. I was trying to work with it earlier and I noticed that with the flag enabled, the mouse would hitch whenever it was in use, as if the interpolation was either throwing the player's pitch off or not taking it into account

even if final doomer's bugs arent THAT big, will they still be fixed, some day?

>>4424880
ridiculous

>>4424880
doomero's stuff is always fascinating to watch but a bitch to actually play

>>4424537
how do i get the game garphics to look like this, looked everywhere and didnt find how

also, a video to reference the graphics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQHmPDVfHOU

>>4424343
There's no real good port for SW, even the Steam one has its flaws.

>>4424423
it's not, it's just not finished. The author was a Nvidia engineer and left before any real optimising work was done on it.

>>4424145
back to saturn x

>>4424842
Corrupts if you save and load a game.

>>4424924
Doesn't do that for me or I'm somehow doing it wrong. I have different folder for each gameplay mod and set the gameplay mods for autoload via the .ini.

>>4424924
interesting, is there a bug report thread?

>>4424934 (me)
never mind, i found it
too many subforums to look in
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=56185

So I've never cared about Brutal Doom but I hear it has an actual mapset that comes with it now. Are the levels worth going through?

>>4424952
Pretty sure that's just the iwads but with extra shit tacked on or changed.

>>4424952

It's not bad. Mark's the best when he does maps.

>>4424952
Play the maps, but with a good gameplay mod.

>>4424952
the hell on earth starter pack maps are good, especially the city ones.
the enhancer script in bdv21, mentioned by >>4424963, that edits the iwad levels in place is a bit rubbish though.

>>4424880
Because Doom not can only run on everything, but it can itself run pretty much everything?

>>4422527
>>4422541
bump. everytime i boot it up, it just an heros & leaves this.

Unknown top texture 'BIGDOOR9' on first side of linedef 334
Unknown top texture 'BIGDOORF' on first side of linedef 1684
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1840
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1888
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1891
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1894
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1897
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1900
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1903
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1906
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1909
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1912
Unknown bottom texture 'STARTAN1' on second side of linedef 1915

>>4424898
holy fuck the download link is in the description of the video you posted

>>4425040
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4425039
Those errors don't do anything. What IWAD are you using?

>>4425041
Wrong game

>>4424194
>Asshole Junction
Oh god
Fuck that level
Fuck that level on UV
What the fuck

>>4425048
doom 2

>>4425063
What (G)ZDoom version are you using?

>>4425076
dev build from yesterday

>>4425079
I don't really know, then, sorry. Have you tried changing the renderer or sound drivers in the options, and then launching the game with Lithium?

>>4425079
>dev build
try official release

Speaking of Lithium, I heard a certain someone has been giving Marrub grief for posting bug reports on ZDF. Has that been resolved?

What are some Doom mods that have zero gravity sections?

>>4425143
No, because I stopped posting bug reports.

>>4425140
this suddenly worked. thanks for the assistance

>>4425143
what's this drama?

>>4425150

-Modder has issues in his mod related to ACS string tables being corrupted.
-Graf blames this on the compiler the modder is using.
-Modder points out that this happens even when that compiler is not used.
-Graf doesn't care.
-Problem is not resolved.
-Modder is unable to stay bug-free in current GZDoom releases

TL;DR: Graf is being Graf again.

>>4425148
Under which circumstances does the issue pop up?

>>4424151
Yeah I joined. Hoping to make a map that isn't boring or generic. With all the people who signed up it looks like JOM 5 is going to be massive.
>>4425147
I remember a level in Threshold of Pain had some zero gravity sections.

>>4425160
Reminder that this piece of shit is literally holding the entire community hostage.

>>4425160
i don't think he was denying there was a bug, or that he doesn't care, it looked more like he was saying he can't reproduce it and needs a more minimal test case. that is the impression i got from this thread >>4424937 once you strip away "graf being graf" and treating everyone else like maggots. (not to defend the way he talks to people but speaking as a hobbyist programmer, i can say that unreproducible bugs are the kind of things you have to pay people to work on, they're not fun in the slightest)

>>4425183
>unreproducible bugs
>literally gave an example

>>4425184
i wouldnt want to pick through nearly two meg of acs bytecode either, would you? free / open source software does not mean other people will do boring shit for you without compensation

>>4425193
As a non-hobbyist and hobbyist programmer, if someone found an issue that could be reproduced and gave an example of reproducing it you're a lazy cunt if you don't fix it in 8 months.

i hate to take graf's side on this, but i'm not going through lithium's acs for anything to debug anything

unless there's a simple, reproducible example, it's not worth investigating
just make an example wad, dudebroguys

>BTSX Guy SSG Decorate
BUT FUCKING WHY YHOLL CHRIST JUST LEARN TO USE A LOOP

>>4425228
>FOR LOOP
Thank fuck those exist now. Collapsing docens of line of code down to like three is damn satisfying and much easier to read.

>>4425193
Maybe graf shouldn't have been graf and broken ACS compatibility for no reason while tinkering with implementing his new epic memescript.

>>4425250
yeah, "don't break userspace" also applies i guess. but then the linux kernel core developers are paid a lot of money to not break userspace.

>>4425250
>implementing his new epic memescript.

How many mods actually rely on ZScript? Isn't it like <10? I know a few more are primarily DECORATE-based but use ZS modules.

Hopefully Graf doesn't get assmad over not enough people migrating to ZScript and hamstrings DECORATE to force migration.

>>4425284
Building for ZS from the ground up is quite nice, except for the lack of docs. Converting DEC/ACS to ZS where applicable is a nightmare, which is why so few mods currently use ZS/

>>4425228
not him but, you know, if the first thing you do when a new mod comes out is to take it apart and find nitpicky things to use to shit on the author, you'll quickly find people will stop releasing mods at all. don't be a fucking asshole.

>>4425291
>Section literally labelled THECRIMEZONEPLSNOLOOK
>"Don't be so mean to the poor modder or else he'll stop making mods"
Sounds like you're getting offended on behalf of somebody else who probably doesn't care faggot.

keep nitpicking new mods to piss off this >>4425291 dweeb.

>>4425293
>>4425294
fuck you.

>>4425160
>>4425168
The bug was resubmitted by Wild Weasel. The info thingy I made for Final Doomer+ also causes the issue to occur, proving it to not be a compiler thing as I used vanilla ACC to compile it, and also that it is a regression caused by the new save system/metaobject system.

Randomly put this together without much thought and I'm not exactly sure where I'm going with this.

>>4425298
what is your favorite undertale ship, assuming you're even interested in the game? just curious.

>>4425302
Wow what a surprise Graf was wrong again and also a prick for no reason. Thanks though, at least now it might get fixed.

>>4425307
Yeah, I really do hate his attitude of sweeping user issues under the rug because of their perceived difficulty. This was honestly one of the only reasons I wish Randi were still lead developer – they at least kept trying to help people, even if it took them quite a while to get there.

>>4425303
Futuristic lights while the rest of the level looks medieval fantasy?

Do you guys ever discuss this masterpiece

>>4425363
i dont know what this is

>>4424194
What wad(s) is that?

>>4425369
ayy lmao

>>4425369

Ancient Aliens. Neat aesthetic (as you can see) also has some pretty cool music that is very atypical of Doom. Dare to Fly Where Eagles Soar (MAP07 IIRC) is a personal favorite. Like most Skillsaw wads, it is dick-breakingly hard in places.

>>4425367
DoomRL, a proper roguelike based on Doom. Also the inspiration for Doom Roguelike Arsenal.

>>4425363
I fucking loved it but it's really not retro.

>>4425369
He also has Final Doomer 2.0 on in that screenshot, which has a weapon set designed specifically for that map set.

>>4425293
>>4425228
hahahahaha I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD SEE THE DARK SECRETS

I KNEW THEY WOULD BEHOLD MY ULTIMATE SIN

also feel free to point out a better way to do it, that was quite literally the only way I could think to make it work.

>>4425415
Well firstly USE ANONYMOUS FUNCTIONS YA DINGUS
Secondly I'm pretty sure you could do a couple nested for loops across the range of where those rails point and avoid having to commit any warcrimes.

>>4425417
Anony functions aren't in 2.8.1/2.1.1

>>4425419
Oh christ was that the target version? No wonder.

>>4425420
yeeeee
now you understand the true terror and desperation of the crime zone

>>4425421
Jesus man, alright then the best way IMO would be a terrible ACS-based approach with decorate actor arguments to some dummy actors that fire the rails. Maybe.

>>4425417
>nested for loops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFSrKNDNGtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqG-ThvphbA

>>4425463
bit late there lad
>>4424869

>>4425460
>getting angry over correct programming techniques used every day

>>4425460
...the alternative being a dozen for loops

Is that what you'd prefer, my liege?

>>4424869
>Brutal DOOM > DOOM (2016)

>>4425479
At least you can play Brutal Doom on good maps, unlike Doom 2016.

>>4425480
Until the script ruins those good maps.

>>4425460
what exactly are you getting asspained about? Can you demonstrate that having fifty lines of an action repeated is superior to a three-line 'for' loop repeated fifty times? No?

>>4425481
How?

>>4425481
Goddamn, somebody showed off that thing a couple of threads ago. Shit just BREAKS maps.

>>4425483
It can cause maps to be unbeatable. No, really. A few threads ago, somebody showed it putting up iron bars in a Plutonia map that prevented the exit from being accessible

>>4425487
When was that feature implemented?

>>4425487
It doesn't prevent the exit from being accessible, but it sure as fuck gets in the way of fighting.

>>4425491

He's been showing it off for a while, but I think it's the newest version.

>>4425487
So just play with a previous version that doesn't have that shit then.

>>4425487
Imagine playing Doom 2 with Brutal Doom and the game is scripted to swap Dead Simple with the Slaughterfest 2012 version.

>>4425503
The game already slows to a halt thanks to the shitty fireball effects, now image that times a thousand

>>4425510
How about gore effects? Aren't those also coded/made in some manner which can cause computer hiccups?

>>4424468
>>4424493
IMO TNT is pretty good until like the last third, where it falters (sometimes not so badly, sometimes very badly).

>>4424890
Going into the mod, and removing SPF_INTERPOLATE from all the pitches indeed solved the issue. Why the hell was it even used if it is known to cause that shit?

>>4424869
That looks so bad, particularly the 3D models sloppily turned into sprites, that's a very 90's modding thing, and I mean that in the worst way.

>TFW it took me 20 years to realize the tactical advantages of the chainsaw
Goddamn I feel dumb for never realizing what an important tool it is, I just thought it was ammo conservation and :fun:

>>4424869
Christ this looks fun

>>4425480
Brutal ruins maps to me. Doom 4 has decent maps.

>>4424952
The hell do you mean > now?
"hell on earth starter pack" existed for a while

>>4425149
> an official stable release, as opposed to buggy dev version specifically released to search for bugs
> suddenly worked
> SUDDENLY

>>4425534
Because no one noticed this infinitesimal microstutter until now. Across a ton of mods made by multiple people. Even pointing it out, I still don't see it.

No one would know about something no one ever noticed.

>>4425540
What's it used for? Stunlocking?

>>4425540
It's still pretty much for ammo conservation, but yeah you can painlock Pinkies, Cacos, Spoders and even Pain Elementals which can mean damage avoidance in tight spots.

>>4425563
Many people also don't notice how bad filters make the game look, so what?
At least 3 people in this thread did notice the stutter.
It happens when you play at FPS higher than 35 (i.e. 60)
Check the webm I posted, going on frame-by-frame. You will clearly see the moment when camera snaps back where it was befoere instead of going forward, then snaps again.

>>4424869
The barrel explosions and blood spray effect look really nifty, if perhaps not quite fitting.

>>4425574
3 people, compared to everyone else who has ever played either Final Doomer, LegenDoom, or any other mod that uses pitch like this.

I totally understand that it's a problem for you and stuff, but I just can't justify changing it across the mod based on this. I'm sorry.

>>4425563
You're right, the human eye can only see 24fps anyway. Only extreme hobbyists could possibly notice that stutter

>>4425579
completely irrelevant to something that literally only three people reported

>>4425582
So the proper solution is to just ignore the problem rather than implement a small fix because it's a minor problem?

>>4425597
The fix is to make the pitch changing uninterpolated. So everyone else would have stuttery pitch changes on their weapons.

This is not a simple problem.

>>4425606
Mh, I see.

>>4425582
So, I guess ACS problems are not important at all and do not need any fixing, because only 2 people reported them. I see.

>>4425630
i don't know what that has to do with anything, but sure

>>4425630
He's not Shivers or Yholl, it's probably Sarais. He did this year's ago with Term too, pretended to be him in the thread to create drama.

>>4425498
but that's the way Sergeant Mark IV intended.

>>4425563
4th person here. Always noticed it. Haven't seen anyone reporting it so I thouhgt it was something wrong with me - like some people get motion sickness from doom. But looking at the video I can clearly see view going back and forth as the recoil makes it snap.

Also here's some eggregious example from me.

>>4424080
what's a good way to filter these threads?

>>4425667
Filter the line
>DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD
and go about your soyboy life?

>>4425667
Why?

>>4425667
Learn how to use 4chanX you shub-human

>>4425667
the same way you would go about everything in your life, by giving up.

>>4425563
>>4425664
Make that five. It's super noticeable when moving around firing the BTSX starting pistol.

>>4425563
Apparently that's because you're a shitter that has mouse smoothing enabled.

Also, hi Yholl :3

Just finished half-life for the first time and I wanna try more old fps. Should I play quake or doom first?

>>4425680
I don't actually, but I definitely see that AA Plasma Rifle doing it now. I'll have to thonk on this for a while, but I'm leaning towards getting rid of the interpolation now.

>>4425681
Quake and Doom have some fundamental similarities, but also some fundamental differences, flip of a coin in my opinion.

Also try out Duke Nukem 3D, extremely good game.

>>4425681
Doom->Doom 2->Doom 1 E4->Heretic->Duke 3D->Duke Crribean->Blood->Quake->Quake 2->Unreal->Wheel of Time->Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Shadow Warrior is not up to evereyones taste and most of the levels are crap.
IMO RTCW is the last shooter that has a bit of oldschoolness left in it.

>>4425664
Damn that looks choppy as fuck

>weapon balance just means an inverse relationship of damage and fire speed
When will this meme die?

>>4425667

>>4425540
>That one level in PL2 where you step off the platform and are instantly surrounded
>Keep dying
>Narrow corridors in all four directions, only place of safety, but there are cacos wedged in them
>No supershotgun and at 30 health so can't do shit
>Decide fuck it
>Pull out chainsaw, sprint into corridor and shove it into cacodemon's face
>Can't bite or spit because RRRAWR CHAINSAW
>Turn around and put the cacodemon between me and the horde
>Use his fat ass to block incoming fire while chaingunners and revenents kill the imps closest
>Caco dies and I have a shitload of breathing room without taking damage or spending ammo
>Ever time I'm in a corridor now with a chainsponge I just use it as a shield

>>4425667
delete system32 and shoot yourself
xenogears was a great game btw

>>4425563
>>4425534
If I have to assume by a piss into the dark here, isn't this the same problem Nash's tilt view mod has due to 60FPS rendering interpolation not cooperating well with Doom's inherent 30FPS code or some shit like that? People complained about the microstutters then, but they only show with the interpolation on.

Also if we're talking Final Doomer 2.0, boy howdy do I not like the JPCP katana or its enhanced variant. If only because of Yholl's approach to the iai; apparently the deselect mechanic was intentionally chosen for keeping things simple, since only pistols have alt-fire functions with the TNT chainsaw replacement being an exception.

Except said replacement has three different modes to swap between, and it's kind of a really.. bad replacement since it;s entirely supportive functionality. Meanwhile having to deselect the katana to get the iaido functionality back means you have to swap to another weapon, wait for it to come up, then swap back and watch your ammo counter changing, all in the middle of combat; by not just being able to alt-fire sheathe it, it actually makes combat more complicated than it needs to be by having to deal with more busywork than any other weapon. At least an alt-fire usage for the resheathing could act like a 'reload' of sorts; instead it feels like i'm basically punished for using it as anything other than a finisher or mook swiper.

Also if we're talking Final Doomer 2.0, boy howdy do I not like the JPCP katana or its enhanced variant. If only because of Yholl's approach to the iai. Apparently the deselect mechanic was intentionally chosen for keeping things simple, since only pistols have alt-fire functions with the TNT chainsaw replacement being an exception. Except said replacement has three different modes to swap between, and it's kind of a really.. bad replacement since it;s entirely supportive functionality.

Meanwhile having to deselect the katana to get the iaido functionality back means you have to swap to another weapon, wait for it to come up, then swap back and watch your ammo counter changing, all in the middle of combat. By not just being able to alt-fire sheathe it, it actually makes combat more complicated than it needs to be by having to deal with more busywork than any other weapon. At least an alt-fire usage for the resheathing could act like a 'reload' of sorts; instead it feels like i'm basically punished for using it as anything other than a finisher or mook swiper.

>>4425796
Dunno, heh.
Apparently the interpolation resets itself to where it was when it started or some crime like that.

>>4425806
And that's why there's a cvar in the menu to make it not switch away.

How do I fix the soundtrack not playing in the Steam version? Bought it for pocket dust, a button and a clip

>>4425821
I'm talking about Quake 1 and the expansions btw.

>>4425804
>>4425806

use the deselect-to-sheathe option

>>4425821
pocket dust?

>>4425830
shishisha

>>4425830
Yeah, it was stupidly cheap. Five bucks all quake games

>>4425843
not bad

>>4425821
Use quakespasm instead.

>>4425843
no, i was asking, what is pocket dust?

>>4425851
a way of saying dirt cheap, i'd imagine

>>4425668
>le soyboy meme

Congratulations on finding away to be just as bad as the shitter.

Rewrote my dialogue compiler.
Nerd shit details: Ported a tokenizer I made for another project from DGE-targeted GDCC C to ZDACS-targeted GDCC C and fixed a bunch of pointer dereference errors caused by incompetence.
Less nerd shit: I fixed a bunch of stuff that caused weird issues when using the dialogue compiler. This doesn't get used in normal gameplay, but the upcoming map set will use it extensively. I also made the syntax nicer and easier to work with, including adding binary conditionals (previously you could only do if with no else.)

>>4425863
>BORN TO CRASH
>Zdoom is a fuck
>7034752345 script errors

okay this is a reference isn't it. but to what? Also what does DGE stand for?

>>4425863
Oh, also I should mention that the compiler is in-engine, ie done via ZDACS C. The virtual machine that runs the dialogue bytecode is also in-engine, of course. pls kil me hudmessage is satan and zscript's drawing api is no better

>>4425864
Memes.
DGE is the Doominati Game Engine, the other engine GDCC can compile bytecode for.

>>4425870
ah, i knew i'd seen it before. thanks.
never heard of the Doominati Game Engine.

>>4425865
so you've written a virtual machine on top of a virtual machine?
impressive, but it strikes me as having a great potential to be unperformant

>>4425862
Don't be so sensitive.

>>4424080
I got the GOG version of Thief II, and installed it, and there's also a file called "patch_thief2_2.0.1.19.exe" included in the same directory as the setup file.

What exactly is this for? Should I run this program?

There is also a subfolder in there called "Essential Improvements", which includes these files:
>ep2.crf
>NewDarkGraphicsSettingsToolv1.0 --FULL.exe
>NewDarkGraphicsSettingsToolv1.0 --LIGHT.exe
>TafferPatcher_TMA_216_beta.exe

Do I need this shit? Should I do something with it? What is it and what exactly does it do?

>>4425879
Sure, but it only runs when you see a new page. It's got no lag because of its simplicity.

>>4425415
Hmm. Put an int User_Counter variable on each playerpawn. Make an ACS script that adds one to that value, another that checks for it, and a third that resets it to zero.

Now you can make a decorate loop by calling TNT1 A 0 ACS_NamedExecuteAlways(increase counter value here)
and
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIf(ACS_NamedExecuteWithResult(check for desired value here)

and in the state that the loop jumps to when finished, you call the script that resets the value.

>>4425579
>You're right, the human eye can only see 24fps anyway.
I really hope you don't honestly believe that.

>>4425919

>re: mapping stuff

What are some things in WAD's that have actually creeped you out or been unsettling?
A good example I can think of is a part of Unloved where you're in an area and all the monsters are dormant (can't interact with them or kill them) and you know they'll all go ballistic when you grab a key.

I'm wanting to have moments that can be creepy or unsettling to a player but not jump scare crap or ghouls forest instant death stuff.

>>4425928
release a boss monster by opening a poly-object door. Have it roar and slam the door which moves it slightly into the room then back while calling an A_Quake effect a few times. Then have the door burst open as the monster enters.

>>4425931
Shit man.....I actually had something exactly like that already. Now I feel bad because you'll think I took it from you :(

>>4425919
>>4425920
i know it's a joke but at the same time i can't see this "hitch" in the webm that started this, >>4424537. it does look slightly jittery but not something i'd particularly notice, maybe it's different when you're actually playing though, plus i still stick with 35fps cap so maybe i'm just used to it

>>4425935
not him but i wouldn't worry about it, some ideas are obvious enough that multiple people have them independently.

Does anyone still play the first Quake online?
If so how can I play it? Where do I look for servers?

>>4425160
I've been browsing Doomworld forums, and this guy Graf is fucking insufferable, it makes me feel bad using Zdoom. He's always posting ridiculous shit, like bemoaning the fact that people use Prboom+ and thus are holding back the advancement of Doom. What a tool.

>>4425978
if he gave a fuck about "advancement of DooM" he would implement proper netplay and demo support

>>4425978
People use PRBoom+ because it runs 5-6 times faster than GZDoom (with no mods)

>>4425985
The Chocolate Doom devs are the best, makes you feel all warm and fuzzy using a port made by such bros.

Now if only fabian stopped being stubborn and gave me an option to use original automap colors in Crispy. I really don't get why these dudes try to fix what ain't broken, the colors are horrible. Prboom+ also does the same shit, but you can change 'em at least.

>>4425978
>>4425981
>>4425985
>>4425160
>>4425150
>>4425143
Graf is very productive in what he does, but yes the autism which has enabled the productivity has also enabled the stubborn bull-headedness he has.

The only thing that would stop it is somebody pulling autism rank on him. So John Carmack would have to join and tell him the score.

>>4425995
Carmack would probably make a shitty port of Doom, since he doesn't seem to care about accuracy. The original GLQuake sucks.

>>4425995
maybe we could leave a trail of diet coke to luke Carmack into a trap and then force him to write a successor to GZDooM with all features community wants? assuming he doesnt choke and murder everyone beforehand

>>4425160
i'm sure this has nothing to do with the lithium guy putting out a gzdoom fork that implemented things graf said was literally impossible and graf is still asshurt about it

can anyone give me a hand?
I have imported a model into gzdoom and it appears fine in editor, but its "squished" in game, as you can see I have used doors as a height guide, I have no idea why that is happening and help would be appreciated

>>4426024
GZDBdoes not seem to account for AR correction in case with models.
Expand it upwards by 20%.

Who is your favorite Final Doomer? I'm going through Scythe with Ancient Ayys guy

>>4425160
This obnoxious shit on top of his refusal to even give a fuck about legacy support is why I have something like twenty versions of GZDoom alone and ZDL to keep track of my load orders + version used.

It's the only way to be sure a mod will work.

>>4425947
I just imagined a mod about this...
Also imagined one where not only do you feed the ducks but you axe or shotgun chickens.

>>4425863
>GZD will never have its own dialogue system you can use and expand
>mfw too dumb to go HACKERMAN on the engine like this anon

HUH

>>4425668
Fuck off /pol/.

>>4426114
what did he mean by this

>>4426115
"soyboy" is a word that everyone in /pol/ uses, just like they use the word "cuck" as an insult.

>>4425870
That meme always makes me laugh, every line is so good.

>>4425693
When you do.

>>4425906
Newdark is the bare-bones easymode setup. Otherwise tafferpatcher is generally the recommended thing to do. just don't put in any hd textures or models, since no one seems to have gotten them right.

>>4425935
It's a ancient trope that's been used in many games and movies. I didn't come up with it first and neither did you. Besides, all my ideas are completely free for taking. Otherwise I naturally wouldn't post them.

Anyway the general trick to a tense mood is the buildup, hinting at what's going to happen before it does. The graveyard fight in Unloved as you mentioned is a good example. The release of the first Fiend in Quake is another.

>>4426024
The Z scale of your model should be 1.2 times higher than the X and Y scale. So assuming the base model is large enough, put

scale 1 1 1.2
in your modeldef

>>4425684
You would rank Quake 2 as superior to Unreal? I found both the gameplay and the aesthetics of Unreal to be vastly preferable to the unending orange-and-brown of Q2. The soundtrack too, which was original and had a magical colouring to it, whereas if I recall correctly Quake 2 just licensed various rock/metal songs.

Not that Quake 2 is bad, but I don't see how it can hold up against the resplendent science-fantasy vistas and more engaging gunplay of Unreal.

>>4426147
if you look closer you might notice that he typed -> instead of just >.

>>4426147
I thought he was just listing them in release order.

>>4426147
Quake 2's soundtrack was composed by Sonic Mayhem for the game, I don't recall any licenced music in the game at all.

>>4426149
>>4426150
Ah, my mistake

>>4426151
>Sonic Mayhem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hgj5WLAEEU

>>4425460
I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for this new method of repeating lines of code without using nested for loops.

>>4425684
For a list of "old school" FPS's, there is also Blood 2, Soldier of Fortune, and that... gangster game... can't remember its name. I had a looooot of profanity, that's really all I remember.

Also for retro FPS enthusiasts, I can't recommend the Cube series enough. Has various games; Cube, Sauerbraten, Red Eclipse, Tesseract, AssaultCube, and others. They're all fundamentally the same game - Quake1/2 style deathmatch with real-time editing in maps. The game is the level editor, and people make beautiful arenas with it. Is anyone else here familiar with the games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j6kqGfo6EM

>>4426164
>that... gangster game
Kingpin.

Weapons don't feel too nice, and music/enemies are rather repetitive. It's worth playing for the really nice level design though.

>>4425928
any more ideas?

>>4426194
silent teleporters are a good start

Any melee focused gameplay mods other than GMOTA or Demonsteele?

>>4426062
BTSXGuy because I have a massive boner for energy weapons.

>>4426234
W O A H

>>4426234
Working on my wizard mod, quick question: Should the focus be entirely on spells or should the player have access to other weapons as a fallback incase their mana runs dry?

>>4426264
Only spells. Have some limited range cantrip that doesn't cost mana.

>>4426264
other weapons as it adds some way to spice things up, plus people will just think "as if a battlemage couldn't hit some shit"

>>4426273

>>4426234
>hole at the front of the gun isn't modeled
agitating

>>4426264
I see that you trying to do something like Arx Fatalis's system of spell making (draw spells to cast them).

So here's an idea of implementing a spell memorization mechanic of Arx in form of a weapon (magic staff).
It has a basic attack that allows you to smack your enemies, but its main use is different: With it equipped, the spells you cast are stored in it, and can be invoked with altfire in the stacking order (first spell you cast into it comes out last, last spell sits on top and is readily available). Limit the ammount of spells to 3 in the beginning, but have it grow as player progression, which allow player to come up with spell combos to rapidly fire out of the staff.

>>4426294
look at how low poly the rest of it already is, not to mention you're not gonna be seeing that hole because of the wave of plasma traveling at your face

>>4426323
Kind of, it's actually similar to Legend of Grimrock 1's spells. Though in Grimrock you have 9 symbols you can select, in mine they are 8 points of a star.

In game weapons are replaced with chests, which drop a random enchanted page, which has a correpsonding symbol. I don't really know how well my system would work with your idea, though it does sound cool.

>>4426269
>>4426273
I was thinking a small set of weapons, some magical artifacts which have their own primary attack, but can still use the player's selected spells too. Maybe also a gauntlet that leeches an enemy's health to restore a little bit of mana.

>>4426378
I know the symbol graphic is crappy as hell, but Slade's TEXTURES tool doesn't like translucency that much, or truecolour graphics. Not to mention the crappy scroll graphic was something I stole from google images, probably won't stay for very long.

>>4425667
an hero

>>4426150
I was listing them in what I think is the best playthrough order

>>4424080
Why couldn't the folks at Steam and id manage to put the original soundtrack for Quake 1 in?

>>4426430
Copyright stuff, probably. The OP has a guide to using a downloaded soundtrack with a sourceport.

>>4425947
Quakeworld. EZQuake is the port of choice.
http://ezquake.github.io/

It has an integrated server browser.

>>4426264
hexen souls guy is that you?

This mod is really neato. Found a bug with the sounds tho, if you force pistol start, looping sounds of weapons will persist until you pick up/select a new weapon.

>>4426578
What mod is that?

>>4426378
>>4426382
8-point stars you say? Shit's fun. I made this thing just today.

>>4426579
Final Doomer +

>>4426578
Now you got me thinking
seeing JPCPguy bfg and plasma rifle weapons
Makes me think they were a [spoilertouhou hijack
]LOL[/spolier]

>>4426578
Seeing as JPCP has a weapon set for Final Doomer, I wonder if the Japanese players know about it.
That said, they probably don't use GZDoom.

>>4426582
Those are nice textures you have there
I wonder what would happen if someone stole them

My biggest annoyance is this prism-launcher. It is wonderful for keeping demons off your lawn, but blinding player if you go to close? I kinda understand of having drawback instead of not getting self-splatted, but it is such an eye-sore.

>>4426579
New version of Final Doomer, 2.0.
>>4426607
Demon sealing amulets and etc. have existed in shinto religions before.
it is probably touhou hijack tho
>>4426619
Dunno, perhaps.

>>4426607
Cringiest post on /vr/ today.

>>4426624
It kinda does trivialize some fights, though.

>>4424083
https://twitter.com/DickWhitehouse/status/934978069130911746

Now you can extract the resources from Chasm: The Rift.

Who knows anything about AI, machine learning, and neural networks?

How could they be applied in DooM or quake?

>>4426628
Cringy is not a word

>>4426634
Well, depends on how you apply it.
I think you could use it to generate maps with sufficient sample set, but I getting valid output might be hurdle, plus the maps wouldn't complete-able probably.

You might teach it to play, but it probably would be extreme map-specific solution-wise.

>>4426639
What about monsters?
What about an AI that controls where monsters spawn?

>>4426635
I thought that word existed for a while and wasn't popular until like 2013 or something.

>>4426201
nope

>>4426607
go away, redead

>>4426619
they do
and they do

>>4426642
As in just monster placement? Maybe?
Dynamic spawning might be more difficult.
I am not very well-versed in these, I have just surface knowledge.

how can i make mp3 files sound like they do in doom 1,2?
in midi form i mean, i've tried online converters but it turns into some instrumental thingy instead of doom-sounds

Found a curious bug in the High Noon Drifter: grenades some times "roll over" the heads of monsters. And I do not mean "go over their hitbox", but actually alter their trajectory: get higher, roll over then get lower and continue on flying. So far I noticed it with Cacos when lobbing grenade fom higher up, so IDK maybe its a special feature or something.

>>4426201
action doom

>>4426632
woah what, what does that exactly mean? chasm source port?

>>4426201
Grezzo 2.

Any wad recommendations for Trailblazer?
I just finished playing through all four main iwads and now I just want to blast through something as Duke Nukem's 80's obsessed brother.

>>4426719
Sunlust.

>>4426714
No, no, no. You can import models, animations (and aninmations?) and so on.

But some russian did a modern client, it was in the news some time ago

>>4426724
o i played that actually, worked fine.
what about chasm themed quake map?

>>4426727
A man can dream

Man, BTSX SSG is pretty damn powerful, flinching arch-viles with oneshot, killing with second.
I thought I was in sort of trouble, too.

>>4426735
How many maps is that thing compatible with?

>>4426732
ahh, i see.. wonder if there is some way around. thanks for all the info

>>4426739
I mean I don't think it messes with dehacked so Scythe II/DVII might have issues plus things with custom monsters? Maybe for sealing/debuff effects but...
I could test it quickly.

>>4426748
Seems like it works with Ifrit and such.
Just maps with custom weapons perhaps. Perhaps it overrides them. I don't know. Let's see.

It does have issues with Valiant, the chapter-selector overrides weapons-set selection so you are left in this weird... nothing state.

>>4426735
>BTSX SSG
wait what.

>>4426760
Didn't Valiant had a "vaccinated" edition, for it to be playable with mods?

>>4426624
>New version of Final Doomer, 2.0.
I thought it only was for Final Doom?

>>4426664
how about monster combat?

Or a bot ai?

>>4426775
It has. It does rid of all weapon/monster alterations.

>>4426781
Well yeah, it was bit redundant. The new version.

>>4426798
So what, it has new weapons for a bunch of other specific mapsets not mentioned in the zdoom OP post?

>>4426578
fooook
Thanks for the info, I'll go beat that up.

>>4426624
Yeah, it's more of a "these things exist in touhou games" so I pull a lot of sounds from them, but it's not a reference to it.

>>4426760
Valiant probably overwrites the playerclasses. Use the Vaccinated Edition.

>>4426802
Yes. Plutonia, TNT, Doom II, Ancient Aliens, JPCP, Back to Saturn X.

>>4426802
The one yesterday, with weapons for;
Plutonia
TNT
BTSX
JSCP
Ancient Aliens

>>4426807
Yep, overwrites playerclass.

>>4426624
>>4426619
88alice/Kurashiki, Manbou and Toooooasty, three people who mapped for JPCP, helped with the weapon designs.

>>4426695
Downsampling

>>4426582
Yeah the 8 pointed star features prominently in my mod

>>4426535
Yeah it is me! This isn't strictly hexen souls related but it's something

>>4426884
so uh, is hexen souls still alive?

>>4426885
yeah, I'm not abandoning it. I just have a lot of irl stuff to work through. Not to mention Hexen Souls is a clusterfuck of years of code. So a lot of it I look at and think "what the fuck was I smoking"

basically it requires a massive overhaul & cleanup but it is something I very much want to finish

>>4424080
Heretic doesn't like the sound card in my retro rig. Whats the best way to play it on a modern system? Also, why can't I find a copy of Powerslave anywhere?

>Pickup JPCP BFG
>Yooooooooooooooooo
Kek

>>4426907
Hahhahaha, blame Term

Anyway, I just finished the bugfixes and pitch alteration for FD+ 2.1, so I just need to wait a bit for Shivers to appear so we can put it in the main post.

Do you think they still hate eachother?

>>4426923
no

>>4426923
do you think they still go naked waist down?

Final Doomer compatible with monster wads?

>>4425978
I remember at one point in 2011 or so, Graf said he disliked Chocolate Doom because it brought in a revival of vanilla compatible mapsets.

>>4426987
Yes

>>4426701
that's not a bug with HND
it's with all projectiles that bounce off everything except monsters

term if you are reading this: messing with specialmissilehit can fix it

>>4426987
no
also not compatible with any mapset
only with mods that change the player class and weapons

>>4426923
Romero and Adrian are on friendly terms and were to do "Blackroom" together. Adrian has worked professionally with Sandy Petersen, doing illustrations for some Cthulhu themed RPG book or whatever. Romero keeps tweeting "notice me senpai" type tweets to Carmack.

I think the only animosity is between Adrian and Carmack. Carmack also probably feels the human equivalent emotions of disdain and pity for Romero.

>>4425863

hey marrub
hey marrub

you probably know this, but when you're playing as cybermage, and you have the spell selection 'weapon' displayed, and you open the menu, the cursor freezes.

>>4426109
>GZD will never have its own dialogue system
It does, it's called ZSDF. It's a bit toss, but as long as you don't need the player to have 6+ dialogue options, it can work.

>>4427012
and you open the menu, the cursor freezes.

Whoops, probably should have specified that by 'menu', I meant Lithium's menu, not GZDoom's.

>>4426904
There's a heretic version of Chocolate Doom. GZDoom can of course also play it.

>>4427010
Reminder Carmack killed id software's cat calling him a liability.

>>4425863
Will Lithium be a complete stand-alone game?

heretic maps with doom enemies, does that exist?

>>4426735
What map is that?

>>4427025
It was his own cat.

>>4427025
no he didn't. taking it to the animal rescue shelter because they were unable to care for it any more isn't killing it

>>4426735
>Man, BTSX SSG is pretty damn powerful

Anyone who plays BTSXguy and is confused about why they don't have similar results, his SSG is basically a melee weapon; damage dropoff is drastic at even short range.

>>4427030
Hordes of Chaos adds some Doom enemies.

>>4427035
"Entering Aquatic Desert", map21 of Sunlust.

>>4427035
the greyscale floating skulls remind me of sunlust, but i don't immediately recognise the map

>>4427056
oh it was map21, i suspected map21 but i must have missed that part of it

>>4427062
It is secret area, open after you raise bridge to exit. From that bridge, go to left and there will be a teleporter to YK room and stairs down to secret area. After you pick up item down there, monsters will teleport in.

>>4425978
I think its hilarious he blames PrBoom+ for holding back the advancement of Doom, when I'd honestly argue Zdoom deciding to abandon demo support very early on is exactly what lead to the PrBoom+ situation today in the first place.

>>4427041
DOWN TO CHINATOWN!

Wow, I'm having a real streak here. If I can keep up the pace, an actual release might be possible in the coming days. A very early alpha of sorts. Still lots of stuff to make, but I'm kinda getting tangled up in the thing and could use some feedback, so... We'll see.

>>4427017
>>4427012
I know, that's intentional.

>>4427028
No, unless someone wants to provide me with free textures, sprites, and sounds equivalent to those in Doom 2.

>>4427172
Oh that's beautiful.

>>4427071
>the PrBoom+ situation
Whazzdat?

>>4427172
Now THAT'S how you do HD textures.

At least that's what they look like to me god damn.

2 things, if I wanted to play Blood would that be through a sourceport? Is there a dl anywhere?

Also can anyone identify the wad in the picture?

Sorry for being a mong

>>4427209
I recommend bloodgdx it will summon some autists here though that screech

>>4427209
ZBlud :^)

>>4427209
I apologize for not answering your second question but judging by the hud its https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=29815

I dont know about the map

>FinalDoomer's exitmessage states that more weaponsets will be added in future

Really? What other mapsets are famous enough to warrant it? Doing weaponsets fro BTSX and AncientAliens made sense, because those are visually distinct from vanilla Doom... but what others could you do it for? I suppose that Lovecraftian-themed mapset (Forget the name) that Term suggested HND be run on would be a good candidate for a FD weapon set, but I'm at a loss for others.

>>4427223
>>4427232
Thank you!

>>4427209
>>4427232
the map is doom2 map08, the north room with the cacodemons

>>4427209
Map is Tricks 'n Traps, from Doom II. The weapon mod is wildweasel's Nazis!, I think?

>>4427235
Strange Aeons
Scythe 2
Would Action Doom 1 and 2 count?
A Dead Air. guy?
Some sort of Slaughtermap levelsetGuy?

>>4427241
I'm pretty sure at least a bit of the Ancient Aliens weaponset was inspired by Strange Aeons.

Just moving my feedback for the last Project Babel release to this thread, since I think I got the very last post:

Some feedback for Project Babel:

I've noticed that while crouching the pump shotgun's pellets disappear when you shoot. This means crouching and shooting at something has no effect. I don't know if you intended to have this played with jumping/crouching enabled, but just figured I'd let you know. I think I'm using the latest release but it's hard to track them, you might want to get a trip or make sure to always have Project Babel in your release posts or something.

>>4427246
No, why would it?

In any case, 2.1 of Final Doomer is now out, anyone who was distressed by the pitching before, please try it out and see how it feels now.

>>4427235
>>4427241
Deus Vult/Deus Vult II
Sunlust
Epic II
Going Down

>>4427258
The machinegun reminds me of SA, at least.

>>4427260
>A Deus Vult weaponset
Dear god...

>>4427241
>Would Action Doom 1 and 2 count?
>A Dead Air. guy?

But those already had its own weapons. I thought the point was to make a themed weapon for a mapset that *didn't* have its own weapons.

>Scythe 2
This seems the most likely, given its long-term popularity and the evangelizing Term gives it.

>>4427260
>Deus Vult/Deus Vult II

Didn't those have their own weapons too? I remember at least one of them having dual-wield pistols. Been a while since I played.

>>4427235
>Really? What other mapsets are famous enough to warrant it?
A generic fantasy-guy for maps using gothic dungeon textures or themes.

>>4427274
Well, that's about the extend of it. DVII just had slightly better pistol(s). DVI didn't have custom weapons.

>>4427315
Oh yeah and Sauron's Gauntlet as chainsaw replacement.

>>4427194
Most mappers mapping for PrBoom+ compatibility.

>>4427235
>>4427260
I'd really, really love to see a Going Down weaponset. I imagine it could probably be very inspired after real life weaponry and urban combat, with stuff like an M4 Carbine or MP5 as the chaingun weapon,or a stungun or a taser for the fist weapon/chainsaw. Maybe breaching charges somewhere in the mix too.

Shame I think it got very few votes in the thread.

>>4427223
it's just one tryhard crying over the palette.

>>4427235
I'm sure Sunlust is interesting enough.

Any reason why scimtar is acting strange with krigsland monsters only? I just played through it and some of the monster spawns were really weird

>>4427235
>kama sutra guy
>chainsaw could be a chakra or a katar ohko weapon
>plasma could be something be a weapon that sends psy waves in rainbow form
>bfg is a floating buddha head that sends a likeness to himself out forth to search & destroy a la wraithverge

>memento mori guy is a man who has all the souls of dead war vets inbound & has a weapon set that reflect those wars
>chainsaw: sword
>pistol: .45
>shotgun: 1897
>ssg : db flintlock shot
>chaingun: m16 with dogtags wrapped around the barrel shroud
>rl: piat
>plasma: some sort of experimental tesla weapon
>bfg: a less dumbass versions of the fatman from fallout

>hell revealed guy basically has shit from 40k

>>4427358
>bfg is a floating buddha head that sends a likeness to himself out forth to search & destroy a la wraithverge
Combine with JPCP BFG for maximum enlightenment.

How do you think the different Final Doomerguys look like?

>>4427376
power rangers

>>4427376
Doomguys with different hats

>>4427376
Girls.

>>4427358
>kama sutra guy
>no weapon referencing to how that wad ends
oh come on now

>>4427241
Seriously, dude?
Strange Aeons already has its own weaponset, as does Dead Air, and Action Doom 1 and 2.

>>4427358
>>memento mori guy is a man who has all the souls of dead war vets inbound & has a weapon set that reflect those wars
>chainsaw: sword

Na, man. Since there's already a playerclass with a sword, I say a spear for Moriguy's chainsaw replacement. Better range, better damage, but more windup to compensate.

>>4427260
It could be kind of neat if the weaponset associated with the slaughtermaps-type of wad was op as fuck.

>>4427407
spear could be a fun idea, high damage - low attack rate - longer-than-average-melee reach weapon could be really fun to poke barons with

>>4427407
alright

>>4427395
how does it end

>>4425821
Steam version doesn't come with the soundtrack for some reason. Get an ISO of the game and rip it to OGG or something that quakespasm supports.

>>4427376
Like cute anime girls.

>>4427416
notice how it's called kama sutra?

>>4427438
oh, right

>>4427395
>>4427416
>>4427438
KamaSutraguy's BFG should be a pair of metallic women's legs that shoot out rainbow death lasers

Now that Final Doomer had its big update, does this mean DRLA will go at full steam ahead?

>>4427458
considering that making anything in DRLA is several magnitudes more complicated than FD, don't count on it.

>>4425579
>>4425919
>>4425941
Even I notice 35, but I choose to lock it to 35 just to avoid it feeling more artificial.

24fps is just the lower limit to where humans will perceive motion rather than individual frames. But even then the graphic quality has to be slightly blurred or you'll still notice the chop (hence why movies for decades seemed fluid, but when video quality improved they had to raise it to 30)

>>4425667
>>4425668
>>4425672
Probably a CRT shader of some kind.
> using filters, well it is /vr

>>4425863
>Thanks, bye!
Marrub you cheeky

>>4427517
That map's Torment & Torture... 3, right?

>>4427527
First map of UTNT

>>4424869
As someone who never comes into /vr/ and who hasn't played doom in years, I accidentally stumbled in here and watches this and it looks amazing.
What is it and where do I get it

I've never played quake ever

>>4427235
how would a alien vendetta weapon set be? i'm trying to see a resistance fall of man/halo type with human, alien & reverse engineered class but all i'm envisioning is it clashing with the aa weps

also
>1994tu guy
>all the weps are human but has ridiculous mussle flash

>>4427547
A doom mod replicating Quake Champions, except with actual single player that so far lets you pick between doom, quake and quake 2 enemies. It's not out yet.

>>4427547
>I've never played quake ever
Why not? It's good. Trust me.

So I take this is pretty much how Doomguy carries his stuff, right?

>>4427592
Wasnt there something in the manual/Doom Bible that said Doomguy had some kind of teleportation technology that he used to store all his weapons?

Anyone have good suggestions for alternate soundfonts? At the moment I've picked up Chorium & Arachno.

>>4427623
What are those ones comprised/based off of?

Also people will disagree cause dur tinny and ack, but
https://musical-artifacts.com/artifacts/24

>>4427458
I'll try to, I've got a lot to do, heh.
For now though, I'll mostly be lurking and watching for any bug reports for Final Doomer, to try and make sure I don't miss any.

>>4427010
Why do the Carmack brothers dislike each other?

>>4427802
They're not related. IIRC there was something about Adrian being forcibly evicted from his co-owner position at id sometime around when Bethesda bought them.

>>4427803
That's one big coincidence then cause Carmack does not strike me as a common name at all.

>>4427803
*apparently it was way earlier than Bethesda, closer to a proposed Activision buyout, but basically he owned half the company and they forced him out by trying to pay him way less than his share was worth. Romero was long gone by this point so he's got no beef with him, and I dunno if Adrian has any carmack with Tom Hall or McGee or etc.

>>4427804
You can't spell coincidence without id.

>>4427803
His departure seems earlier than when ZeniMax got id for good.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Adrian_Carmack
>Adrian Carmack left id Software in 2005. At the time, the press was told he felt he had done all he could do in the gaming field and was planning to concentrate on his art. However, in September 2005, the Wall Street Journal revealed that he was taking his former business partners to court, claiming he was effectively fired by them in an attempt to force him to sell his 41% stake in the company for $11 million under the terms of a contract he wants the court to nullify. $11 million is thought to be a fraction of the true value of his stake, which is thought to be closer to $43 million after the company received a $105 million bid from Activision in 2004.

>>4427805
>I dunno if Adrian has any carmack with Tom Hall or McGee or etc.
Should say 'has any problems with ...' How the fuck did I put 'carmack'- not even capitalized- in place of 'problems?' Oh god I think I'm having a seizure.

>>4427207
Except they are not HD :P

>>4427837
>>4427207
what's HD?