/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4410565
what now

on a CRT screen I presume

Software mode is always better for these old games. Duke Nukem was a garbage in HRP mode as well.

It doesn't. Can't see shit unless it's at least 640x480.

>>4410572

This. I hate OpenGL Douk.

>>4410565
>not playing with the screen border at full width
Pleb

>>4410565

Because that's what it was designed for

>>4410575
if you disable texture filtering it looks exactly like software mode and doesn't torture your CPU

no reason to ever touch choco doom when crispy doom exists

>>4410587

No it doesn't, the skies aren't proper.

Doom 64 is best.

>>4410587
>torture your CPU
Yeah, you really want a 486/DX or better for Doom.

>>4410612

You mean "is actually scary"? Because yes, it is.

It really really is.

>>4410565
Because the game has little detail, in the environment and textures.
Low resolution hides that. Specially good on a CRT.

>>4410565
If you want atmospheric Doom just play the PS1 version.

>>4410648
>>4410612
no

>>4410565
It's the retro feel

>>4410758
why would anyone do that

>>4410565
Because the game was literally built for that resolution

>>4410565
>filtered

>>4410565
You see less. Everything is darker, things blend together because of limited palette, and you can't even see very well things in the distance.

It's important to see that at the time, Doom was seen as a horror-shooter, kinda like what FEAR is now.
It seems kinda ridiculous, but back then when first-person games were new, getting jumped by a Spectre in a dark corridor was a genuinely unnerving experience.
Especially Doom 1 seems to be designed for that, with less high-octange action and more dark mazes and teleporter puzzles.

So your answer is - better atmosphere and more tension.

>>4411918
That's just the screencap being resized from 320x200.

>>4410573
>>4410690
I'm a big fan of DOOM at 640x400 on a CRT. Still low resolution enough to not kill the aesthetic, but there's enough extra detail that you can actually see and appreciate the spritework.

>>4412168
Why is the 1 in 100% dancing

>>4412173
It's a comparison of DOSBox to ZDOOM, ZDOOM adjusts the number to match the spacing of the other numbers

The colors are also off but that was my gamma settings, I fixed that

what's the correct aspect ratio?
200 or 240?

>>4412460
320x200

It is possible for something to be way too sharp and look artificial.

>>4412460
the correct aspect ratio is 4:3

Objects appear to slide along the floor as you move around when you're playing in software mode at high resolution, you can see the contrast between the sharp detail of the map geometry/texturing and the scaled-up low-resolution sprites

320x200 at least closes that mismatch so everything is at a consistent size and level of detail

>>4410565
If you're not playing on a CRT wouldn't that just upscale and look all blurry?

>>4413129
No. The pixels are sharper than ever. You'd have to apply a filter to make it look blurry.

>>4412460
4:3. You fiddle with your CRT monitor knobs until 320*200 fits your screen perfectly. The result is as close as you can get to 4:3 with manual knob turning.

>>4412460
320x200 or 640x400 was an incredibly common resolution for DOS games, and it was to be stretched to fit a CRT screen. Running at 640x480, you see that some lines are doubled vertically so it's not pixel perfect and doesn't look great. Even games that do 640x480 natively have line doubling and were clearly meant for 320x200 or 640x400, like Duke3D.

Do you knobs also play at 35fps? Absolutely sappy.

>>4412168
320x200 hides more and leaves more to the imagination.
640x400 really shows the games age.

>>4410565

because you get that grainy, shitty pixel goodness

how does 320x240 look on a 4k monitor

>>4410565
maybe because artwork detail was designed for that resolution, so it was meant to be played in it?

>>4414641
okay if you use integer scaling with fixed ratio

>>4410565
Because you're a hipster who doesn't know how to run GZdoom

>>4413787

>implying games age

>>4414782
But they do age like fine wine.

>>4413129
yeah it looks like blurry dogshit
on a CRT it's bearable but 640x400 looks better

I always used the Doom95 source port back in the day, thanks for programming that while you were still at microsoft gabe ya fat fuck

>>4414761
>Brutalbaby who thinks GZDoom is the only graphics-enhancing source port that exists

PrBoom and CrispyDoom are for people who want to play Doom.
GZDoom is for codkids who want to pretend they're playing Doom.

>>4415126
Lots of mods need GZDoom or are enhanced by it, and GZDoom has PrBoom compatibility, so why wouldn't you just use GZDoom?

>>4415136
>GZDoom has PrBoom compatibility
PrBoom != vanilla.

In PrBoom you have to enable vanilla compatibility through the "complevel #" command line switch. ZDoom's "Boom compatibility" is not vanilla compatibility.

>>4415147
I know dumbass, but if you're recommending PrBoom and Crispy Doom, then we're obviously not talking about vanilla.

>>4415136
ZDoom doesn't handle boom specials the same way as the Boom engines do.

ZDoom's really the "I just want to play something like doom" engine. It runs everything, but it does everything slightly wrong.

>>4414782
They do.
Else why would you want to play it in 640x400? The game was made for 320x200.

ZDoom is baby's first sourceport. Sure, it runs modern wads specifically designed for Zdoom, and that's fine, but you don't actually believe it plays vanilla Doom correctly right? It's basically a separate engine at this point and makes a ton of changes that alter the original gameplay. Movement feels different, code used for punching things is different, monster behavior is altered, lots of older wads are broken.
I Use Chocolate for original episodes and Prboom/Crispy for limit removing stuff. I hate zdoombabies who pretend it's an accurate port, just say it like it is.

>>4413108
THIS. Sprites look fucking ridiculous and out of place in any kind of high resolution port, I thought everyone else but me was blind. It's bearable at 640x400 but honestly the game looks most cohesive and aesthetically pleasing at the original resolution. I don't know how this could be fixed really.

Because the low fidelity, high noise and limited palette are making the scene more abstract, allowing your brain to imagine details that aren't there.

>>4410612
I cant get my mouse to look properly while playing doom 64 ex

I don't know what the fuck the problem is. maybe its because I'm using windows 10