/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

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-Looking to clean parts of the OP that aren't active

=== NEWS ===

[11-19] Source engine-style devtextures for Doom
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=57235721532506979985

[11-18] OBLIGE's final bugfix update: 7.70
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/

[11-18] Defrag World Cup is back for the first time since 2014
https://dfwc.q3df.org/comp/dfwc2017/

[11-18] Golden Souls 2, Demo 3 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1818058

[11-14] Dark Tide, a huge gothic castle map by Lutz
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97965-dark-tide-finally-released/

[11-14] La tailor girl first full release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1027167#p1027167

[11-13] EZDoomJukebox, a Python-based .pk3 jukebox generator
https://github.com/SpencerBelleau/EZDoomJukebox

[11-11] GMOTA 1.0 pre-release
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4384536/#4390513
https://www.dropbox.com/s/adqkdot7favn77d/GMOTA_V1.0%20%28pre-release%29.pk3?dl=1

[11-10] High Noon Drifter 1.2 officially released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57098&start=345#p1026437

[11-10] Anon map release: Garosaedris.wad, to be loaded with current Halloween map pack
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xioyu73xznardt9/Garosaedris.wad?dl=0 (updated 11-19)

[11-9] Anon release: Custom Smooth Doom upgrade
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4384536/#4386145
https://mega.nz/#!H0wVWLhQ!XlGdhgWR6PrpQljmWU9rh4D3nX11Bxf5asXUydRmVw4

[11-9] /idgames archive now accepts 12 character filenames
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1815751

[11-8] Anon map release: Cave Complex >>4385037
https://my.mixtape.moe/kqkpex.zip

[11-8] Alien Vendetta D2ALL in 1:33:21 by ZeroMaster
https://youtu.be/FQEEzJql72o

[11-6] Doom2 UV-speed in 18:45 by eLim
https://youtu.be/6xdr3MeGdME

[11-5] Crispy Doom 5.0 released: now switched to SDL2
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1814593

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>put Trenchbroom on laptop
>now I can make brush toilets while shitting

Hey, I've got this issue with chocolate doom and its derivatives where the sound effects are linked with the music. This only happens when I'm using GUS or native MIDI. OPL doesn't link the two together, so if the music is muted, the sound effects still play.

Does anyone know why this is? I feel as if it's a problem with Windoze itself but I'm not sure.

>>4407279
Loss it.

>>4407271
So /doom/, now that I've found time to ask, what could be done to improvise and update the OP for a little spring cleaning?

>What kinds of extra information could be useful
>Do you find any particular items on there vestigial or redundant
>Does anyone want to take up the mantle of updating/replacing any of the pastebins that haven't been updated in ages
>Link other dedicated Doom/Retro FPS news outlets in the news?
>Anything else

>>4407304
Got nothing dude.
Have a map bump even though I'm late for Screenshot Saturday

I think this is a bug in GMOTA:

That triple shot spear subweapon can fire infinitely even when ammo runs out if you're using the double or single shot after chain firing

Unless that's intentional then my bad

>>4407378
Also the lightning stab for the lance is incredibly weak

>>4407378
Oh crap. That is definitely a bug.

>>4407381
I can buff that.

Stealing weapons from other games is how I roll.

>>4407402
Is this supposed to be Daikatana's C4 launcher?
Because it is kicking your own ass

>>4407405
It uses health as ammo.

Draw on this damn thing and inspire me. Maybe you'll see something I'm not.

Failing this I guess I'll just spam hexagons again.

>>4407408
The BFG of The One God?

>>4407430
Yes.

>>4407402
>wall of explosions, possibly both standard and energy but hard to tell
>clocks off exactly 50 health with each shot
Please tell me that's a Massacre, you glorious bastard.

>>4407421
I think I might have something. Layout's almost done barring the IOS room and it's possible offshoots.

Feel free to draw on it and make suggestions. I'm not sure if I want to add onto the orange room with the first two pillars or more on the right.

Then there's the monsters. I'm thinking a bunch of revenants and an archvile here and there; maybe a fatso or two; possibly an arachnotron.

The Icon will generally be used to repopulate areas. What do you think of this layout? Where can it be improved? What could be changed or added?

>>4407421
this was supposed to be a quick little scribble, but I'm a bit high, so here ya go

>>4407509
heh
>RAWR

fwiw seems much too disjoint-rooms-and-halls for me. beautiful drawing though.

>>4407521
feel free to merge rooms or change bits, or just pick some bits out that you might've liked

>>4407525
>>4407509
>>4407521

>>4407501 >>4407421
here

Looks pretty cool, good drawing, seems a lot more coherant and inventive than what I've got.
That central pillar was initially a spawn-spot but I like the idea of a teleporter more.

>Rawr
Kek'd heartily.
Pretty useful all around though. Thanks lad.
A couple of those corridors seem like they'd be useful for something I wanted to fool around with (a crouching illusion)

>finally listened to Black Album
>can't stop noticing familiar tunes in pwads now
FUCK

>>4407578
good on you
if i hear sandman one more time on the radio i'm gonna puke, i've heard the black album enough for a lifetime

>playing Legendoom
>get a "get an extendable 3x damage boost on kill" effect on a weapon
Holy hell, I love this effect but I hate it. It makes the guns fucking powerful, but it causes me to play extremely recklessly because I feel like I have to rush and kill every single thing before the effect wears off.

>>4407592
so it's just like picking up an invulnerability in vanilla

>>4407595
More like QUADDAMAGE

>>4407546

So, funny story?
Your layout almost co-incides with a couple of rooms already. Only about two segments are incompatible; but they're almost identical to pre-existing rooms, so I can just combine them.
I'll decorate and tool up the rooms, play around with them a bit, then tweak and edit them before bringing it together completely.

I thank you deeply for this; I sincerely could of used more like it while I was starting out.
I'll probably retool the rooms that already exist in my map or something.

>>4407603
I'm pretty sure there's a way to have these mid-textures scroll away or disappear. They're the only conflict in this joining room, so push comes to shove if I can't figure it out I'll just pull the midtexture off so I can have the sksnakes behind them lower.

Fascinating. It's wonderful how a fresh perspective can remedy things you wouldn't of came up with on your own. Already I've figured out a bunch of what the player's going to do.

localdumbassforgetshisimage.png

>>4407614
Also, terribly sorry for what is effectively blogposting at this point, but this effect with the EvilEyes and a basic transparency turned out pretty fucking spooky-cool.

Coolky?
Spool?

>>4407287
Use BassMIDI, VirtualMIDISynth or Timidity++. AFAIR it's the problem with SDL and later Windows' default MIDI driver.

>>4407592
It's funny as fuck when you get an explosive chainsaw.

>>4407719
I love that thing.

There is only one thing more fun than an explosive chainsaw, and unfortunately it's in the unfinished update.

fack

>>4407270
>Cave Complex
What's with the .dbs file in the zip when I unpack it? The maps seems to be the same without it.

>>4407402
Shit, what WAD was this again? I should know.

I used to take a bit of pride in knowing exactly what level something was when I saw random doom footage.

>>4407762
>Shit, what WAD was this again? I should know.
sunlust, map28, start of blue key section.

>I used to take a bit of pride in knowing exactly what level something was when I saw random doom footage.
i know that feel

I've been stuck on TNT MAP11 for like a week. The part where you go into the room filled with crates and enemies just keep spawning in gets me every time. It feels like I don't have the firepower to kill enemies quickly enough when cornered when I use the regular shotgun or chaingun, but at the same time when I use the SSG I can't keep up with enemies coming out from a corner in succession without them getting potshots off me due to the slower rate of fire. Am I stupid, is there an intended way to handle this situation that isn't "run outside and spend ten minutes shooting any enemies that wander past?"

>>4407797
>"run outside and spend ten minutes shooting any enemies that wander past?"
that's pretty much what i do. except not 10 minutes, it doesn't take that long.

>>4407793
thanks man, just had a romp in it now

One thing that really impressed me about Russian Overkill was the special effects from the guns themselves.

Seriously, some just looked fucking spectacular.

I thought Plutonia's Icon of Sin was easier than Doom 2's.

>>4406523
> Do you have any particularly fond Doom memories?
So we had a computers class in the beginning school (that's like first four years. It's kinda analogue to elementary school I guess.). It was called "Informatics".
So since we were really young (like 3 or 4 grade) we weren't really thaught how to use the computers besides the basics and paint, instead the teacher actually taught us hot play games. And how to cheat in them!
Most specifically I remember playing Dangerous Dave 1, Wolfenstein and Doom 1 and 2.
Those were really old PCs, they did run on windows (don't remember which), but they launched DOS games without DOSbox

So our class really liked Doom, especially Doom 2. So did I. But I never finished it back then. Cause I got stuck really stupidly. I got stuck at fucking Dead Simple!!! Seriously, I just couldn't find the exit at all, I never realized that the cube with eyes in middle is clickable, or that it even served any purpose at all, nor did I notice that when I killed all monsters it became available to go to it. So for a really long time on classes I was just running around Dead Simple arena trying to find the exit. And I knew there had to be one, I saw other pupils playing later levels, I was really jealous of them. And nobody fucking told me how to exit that level.

So I guess this is a negative memory trapped inside a comfy memory...

>>4407797
>>4407803 (me)

>>4407854

>>4407839
Huh, cool story.
It reminds me actually that I never figured out how to exit the spirit world because the switch to the exit room is a shootable wall and it's a texture you'd never thing was a switch, much less a shootable one.

>>4407854
>>4407859
Your .webms are always encouraging, anon. I really should learn how to archvile jump so I can grab that megasphere, I've been ignoring it out of the thought process that it's too risky to get but the health and armor is probably what I need to push through the level.

>>4407863
thank you, i appreciate that you find them helpful

it may also help to know exactly where the teleport triggers are. they are not immediate, after each line is crossed you then have to fire to wake up the teleportees.

>>4407378
by the way, whats agood map pack that goes with gmota? like something medieval/fantasy themed

>>4407270
I just finished Doom for the first time. I loved it, although I don't really like thy flesh consumed - is that considered part of the game or an expansion?

Overall, is Doom 2 considered even better?

>>4407270
where do i get the best version of GZDoom?
I currently have ZDoom, which just werks, but whatever GZDoom version i have never goes full screen.

>>4407924
Thy flesh consumed is an expansion
Doom 2 adds some stuff
Whether its better or not is up to you to judge

>>4407924
TFC I believe was when Doomguy first got back to earth. Doom 2 has some great maps, yes but I think most people agree that atmosphere of Ultimate Doom was much better.

Doom 2's main thing is the extra gun and monsters, which are all very good.

>>4407924
> thy flesh consumed
You should have saved it after Doom 2

>>4407940
I didn't actually finish TFC yet. Currently on Downtown in D2

>>4407936
Is it true Doom II lends itself better to Brutal Doom?

>>4407945
It would go well with it I suppose, yes.
It's balanced for it.

Thoughts on Simpsons Doom?
Will we ever get a Rick & Morty Doom?

>>4407951
Simpsons was one of the early major TCs, I could never get into jokewads though but it was probably amazing back in the day.

I hope Rick and Morty Doom never, ever *ever* happens.

>>4407951
>Will we ever get a Rick & Morty Doom?
If this was the 90's then I'd say it was inevitable. I mean there's even an old mod in the archives that replaces all sound effects with things from the Joy of Painting and makes Bob Ross comment on everything. It's nowhere near as fun as it sounds though
But these days people seem less interested in dumping stupid sounds into Doom and more interested in making actual mods, so who knows?

>>4407951
Someone should remake Batman Doom. Batman should never have lethal weapons like a FUCKING FLAMETHROWER.
Unless you pretend you are Ben Affleck's Batman I guess.

>>4407271
holy FUCK those chaingunners on Dark Tide are a pain in the fucking ass. Especially when you're out in the open.

Maybe FD might get its update next weekend.

>>4408004
Just be patient anon. They're doing all they can to make this update GOOD. It will come with time and it will be worth it.

Question about sprite artists.

How do they make new sprites themselves? Do they use a drawing tablet? Draw it pixel by pixel with a mouse? Make clay sculptures? (lol).
What's their process?

>>4408009
Everyone has their own process. Personally I draw a black base with the pencil tool, sometimes with a mouse, and then shade over it with a million layers drawn with a tablet, and apply gradient maps for color.
I know a lot of people use 3d models as a base, or clay models. I think my process is similar to what Eriance does?

>>4408009
Depends. "mspaintrockz" makes great sprites with mspaint and a mouse.

Some do "frankenspriting" where you copy and paste bits of previous sprites.

Some make 3d models and render those as sprites.

>>4408016
>>4408019

I see. I got a tablet recently and am just wondering how it's all done so maybe one day I can contribute to new sprite work.

>>4408016
Also another sprite I made that I quite like. BFGs are fun.

>>4408020
Learn the elements of shading, how light reflects and refracts, how shadow is cast, etc. Though I will say that it's necessary, sometimes shading is only secondary to design.

>>4408020
A tablet makes shading much more comfortable.

>>4408029
>>4408030
Any thoughts on monster sprites instead of firearms?

>>4408037
Rotations are pure pain. I've never drawn a monster sprite, so I don't really have any advice there. I know Revae does, though.

On monster sprites does anybody have the image of a certain cyber demon edit?

He was like a cyber-cyber demon, one arm was a huge gatling gun and the other was the rocket launcher, he was more metallic looking like his skin was blown off. Cyan backgrond from the editor.

Was on the spriting carnival.

>>4408037
>Any thoughts on monster sprites instead of firearms?
Render from 3D models or have an autistic amount of skill, patience and dedication. You can of course clean them up after the render.

>>4407951
As with all mme stuff nowadays, either you get VERY shittily made gameplay mod in which case someone comes along and polishes it or it'll be decent from the get go.
But once again, even if someone made the "smoother" version of Woah mod, it's still piece of fucking shit.

>>4408029
1337 gamer bfg

>>4407958
Dude, that mod was literally made during the Dark Age of Comics and was based on 90s Batman Comics
More speficially it was based around the Knightfall Storyline, cue Bane and some Azrael references

>>4408047
Here you go, once off thing by HDoomGuy.

>>4408070
Did he ever finished that?

>>4407951
I was working on that for a while

>>4408070
Fuck yes, god what a great sprite.
Thank you.

>>4408070
>>4408090
I'd have to wonder how he did it, actually.
If I wanted to work on this where would I start, you can't even tell it's an edit because it looks like he made a new model.

>>4408079
No, it's just a single sprite.

>7 maps into Plutonia on UV
Sure, stuff has been killing me, but this isn't the exercise in bullshit difficulty its reputation had led me to believe. So far.
Is Plutonia's rep all memes, or is it because I'm doing my first playthrough continuously?

>>4408120

>>4408127
Plutonia is challenging, but it's not unreasonable.

>>4408127
It's more because mapsets have gotten progressively harder over the years because what we'd consider pretty normal goes up in skill.

For instance it's almost impossible to die if we were to play Doom 2 on UV now because so many of us have played it so damn long.
But imagine playing Doom 2.....then playing Hell Revealed.

But don't worry, it'll get harder.

>>4408120
>Archie wandering off again
Why do they seem to do that more than any monster? Do they actively look for dead demons to reanimate or something?

>>4408119
>>4408120
Something's missing here, hmm...

>>4408127
>Is Plutonia's rep all memes
>misusing memes

i think it's mostly new players who become sick of the modern industry and try out retro games as the obvious way to get away from it, so get into doom as an obvious classic retro game, enjoy it, leaves them wanting more, they do doom2, still want more, so final doom, and plutonia is like

map01:

-archviles on map01 what the hell!
-sudden chaingunner trap from behind, where's my health gone!?

map02:

-red key trap with archvile blocking exit, panic and death if you're not expecting it
-etc.

and after 3 or 4 sudden unexpected deaths after the relative peacefulness of doom/doom2 they ragequit and come online to whinge

>>4408138
interesting, i don't think they specifically search for corpses, they just check for corpses in A_VileChase before returning to the standard A_Chase pattern. but you're right they do seem to wander more, but i think the reason is they have significantly higher movement speed, monsters will choose a movement direction, move that way for a certain time, then choose another, so archviles with higher movement speed go further in each direction before randomly choosing to change it again.

>>4408138
Yes, that's part of their behavior.

>>4408157
This too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70ui1IvSM_g&user=ICARUSLIV3S
Icarus actually reviewed a non-doom mod!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRUQoiIP18&user=ICARUSLIV3S
Together with actual Doom Mod review
Looks pretty cool

>>4408260
i wonder why all his videos get posted here. are you him?

Has anyone tried playing the latest version of Adventures Of Square recently? For some reason I cant go underwater. Using the swim keys does nothing.

>>4408270
He knows Terminus, therefore he'll get his shit shilled here.

>>4408270
No
And don't exaggerate, c'mon.
Not ALL of his videos are posted

http://picosong.com/wnU8W
Anybody knows the name of this song? It's from the first map of 1994 Tune Up Project.

This is coming along nicely.

>>4408324

>>4408324
>>4408325
How will you do the cars?

>>4408331
3D models or not at all.

>>4408324
Neat! Are the diagonal shadows sprited or did you use sloped invisible 3d floors with different light levels than the parent sector?

>>4408342
>>4408331
I was about to link you a tutorial on a guy who easily turned cars online into gzdoom models/voxels, now I can't find it.

>>4408346
>sprited
I mean textured of course

>>4408349
Yes, they are "baked" textures I think is the term?

The map already is a mix of 3D floors and a portal leading into the basement rooms.

I wanted to go with an artificial feel, so even the dark areas likely will not have any difference in light levels. Helps that I plan on it being an enemy less hub level.

>>4408348
I know which one you are talking about. I appreciate your gesture, but I will be able to find it myself.

>>4408353
that's beautiful

How fast do you work on things?

I'm drawing out the details of a map I'm making and I'm thinking at every step of the process and I can get maybe a room done in a day and I'm wondering if that's slow as hell or reasonable.

I see how fast some people churn out maps and it's amazing, like they can make in a month what I'd make in a year.

>>4408353

>>4408407
I haven't made enough maps to comment on that. >>4408324 is my sixth map.

>>4408415
what happens if you step on the bullseye

>>4408496
Nothing.

>>4408496
100 pts

>>4408526
Nice mountains!

>>4407958
>Batman should never have lethal weapons like a FUCKING FLAMETHROWER.
It was Azrael, so yes he would.

>>4408285
>>4408270
he does good videos and covers neat mods
you're a moron if you think that's a problem

>>4408407

On a good run I get maybe one map every eight months done.

>>4407951
I'M A BRUTAL DOOM SUBMOD, MORTY
BRUTAL RIIIIIIICKKKKKK

Recovered a few images of this goldsource map
1/3

>>4408604
>brutal doom+rick and morty
god save us

>>4408605
2/3

>>4408608
3/3

>>4408604
That shouldn't have made me laugh this hard.

>>4408610
>>4408608
>>4408605
This image is just two updates away from adding a "do it for her" collage.

>>4408526
Oh I remember this. The sky there used to be a blank wall, nice you changed it.

>>4408604
hell fucking no.

>>4408604
Adult Swim presents....in association with Sergeant Mk IV (creator of Doom II).

Don't you agree 0.0625 MPH is such a nice speed?

>>4408604
>>>/v/eddit

>>4408604
my eyes have gone sore just pondering this

>>4408605
>>4408608
>>4408610
cool

A simple photoshop shouldn't have taken this long to do.

Oh well!

>>4408715
fuck this hit me in the nostalgia

>>4408715
More like this

Players, mod makers....
How do I make a cave/underground map interesting?

What is cool shit, what is bad shit.

>>4408726
Cool Shit
>narrow tunnels
>large open chambers
>steep drops
>flowing water
>stalactites/stalagmites
Bad Shit
>Literally a techbase retextured
>tons of lifts
>Chasm-type platforming (in excess)
>encounters where it's nearly impossible to avoid damage due to movement restrictions.

>>4408732
This is stuff I had in mind, minus drops and platforming, but because of narrow tunnels it is very hard to avoid damage so I was conflicted :/

I feel perhaps it's an issue of health management, over taking damage at all. So you try to keep to an acceptable level?

>>4408735
Doom isn't really a game about entirely avoiding damage, or else hitscanners wouldn't be a thing. Make the tunnel wide enough so that players can bait attacks into the walls and be done with it. When playing, if you take a lot of damage, add more health.

>>4408715
>>4408724
Zscript should be Moorhuhn Zahl's avatar making the happy merchant face

>>4408739
Yes I see now.
I was wanting to experiment with narrow tunnel networks as a means of having the player get potentially surrounded by roaming monsters if they're too impetuous. Though you'd have to be really screwing up to fight more than 5+ at a time.

>>4408726
sunlust map20
don't make it so stupidly difficult though.

>>4408715
What would be Dehacked?

>>4408759
Sylvanian Families

>>4408759
Dollar store knockoff lego bricks with diamonds instead of circles to attach to each other.

>>4408762
but comes in a german-proof container

>>4408407
I tend to have a burst of creativity and make the layout of a map all at once, then have no more ideas for rooms and spend a week fine-tuning the details.

>>4408607
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Brutal Doom. The violence is extremely unsubtle, and without a solid grasp of Doom modding most of the stolen content will go over a typical viewer's head

>>4408759

>>4408726
TNT Revilution had a great cave map, very spooky and cramped at parts.

>>4408781
>>4408769
>>4408762
>>4408761
>>4408759
You guys are overlooking the most obvious one.

>>4408783
which level

>>4408787
Can't actually recall, somewhere around the middle I think.

It's actually a really good set of maps and they're worth playing fully though.

>>4408785
how is that obvious? i have never heard of it before

>>4408806
Must be some american thing

>>4408785
It's not that obvious. Lego is something you get worldwide, I'm assuming Lincoln Logs are just a US thing, because I've only heard of them recently.

>>4408747
this board is already bad enough, we don't need that shit here, thanks.

>>4408813
>this board is already bad enough
>we don't need that shit here, thanks.
you are right, i am sorry.
i think the board is fine, though. well, this thread is, i don't read any others.

cyberdemon stuck in traffic. by valkiriforce

map 'overzealous' continues to come along nicely, still banging out the rest.

name is just a reference to map12 of sunder; as is some of the detailing in the map.

could probably use a better name; but hey, honeycombs and visual crushers.

>>4407270
About to play arcane dimensions, what am I in for?

>>4408820
Looks Good

>>4408868
A good time.

>>4408868
Pain to run Forgotten Sepulcher.

>>4408898
I want a shambler plushie.

Thread's ded as fuck but whatever, gonna stream a bit of test gameplay for Babel,
twitch tv/fkerguy

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97847-tales-from-texas-the-book/?do=findComment&comment=1818676

What the fuck, is that a wedding ring? Ednerd is married!?

>>4408980
i clicked on this and he was telling somebody to get the fuck out of the chatroom. never said the name though.

>>4408980
nice choice of wad

>>4408980
>fker
>sound completely out of sync
>go in, see someone get told get the fuck out
nah

nah

>>4408997
>fker
is he someone known

>>4409000
Apparently.

>>4408997
gee i wonder who the faggot who got booted was

>>4409000
Not really, he's just consistently really fucking weird with other people.

>>4409003
not me, nigger, try again

>>4409003
it ain't me

>>4408997
>someone
Pretty sure it was Sarais.

>>4409012
I'm still there you dip. Quit shitflinging my name for no reason.

Reminder to report, filter and hide.

>>4409014
Well who else is in the chatroom? I don't have (or want) a twitch account.

>>4408983
Not that surprising, really.

>>4409018
t. deninofag

>>4409018
Literally only me.

>>4409000
He was pretty well known on /vr/ back when it was new. He hasn't done a lot by the name fkerguy recently that I'm aware of.

Page he isn't streaming now I guess.

weird i've lost video but am still getting audio

>>4409025
He did babel; which I briefly commented about using some of the SP_Faces for the fear particle effect

>>4409025
he mostly did fker mod, which was pretty meh and he got super defensive about
he also got really angry over completely random things in the irc

that was a long time ago, tho

>>4408820
me on the right in the mercury

>>4409030
i suppose that means you think you deserve being credited as co-author

>>4409034
I liked fker.

Haven't tried babel yet tho

>>4409051
yeah it was all right, i remember it making the game harder especially when attacked by crowds, because most of the r667 monster replacements are stronger than the originals they replace. i'd be dying repeatedly on maps i know backwards and can usually stroll through.

>>4408980
>>4408997
>>4409025
>>4409028
stream has broke completely now it seems, getting nothing through the web page. curiously mpv/ytdl still gives audio but no video

>>4408726
This has some good advice:

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97124-designing-caves/

>>4408726
Remind players that they're underground by putting skylights in occasionally. If you can have structures (like maybe wells or logs or some such) pass over the hole, so it looks like there's life outside the cave.

Goddamnit I really want to like Inquisitor 3 but the gameplay is an inept shitfest that feels like everything about it is made to piss the player off.
>better give these basic enemies a zero-warning lunging attack in a melee heavy mod
>and these ones too
>and these ones as well
>these big slow golems could use a lunging attack with no windup too
>better give this enemy that looks exactly the same as an easy enemy a massively spammed no windup homing projectile attack which also makes them block that makes them some kind of a revenant+slaughtaur mutant abomination
>better put bullshit ambushes with basically unavoidable damage everywhere
>better gradually spawn in enemies triggered by random shit so you're always being stabbed up the asshole after you smash open even after doing something like smashing open random pots
>better use trees and waist high fences with extremely oversized hitboxes as walls and obstacles so you can enjoy the feeling of getting stuck on invisible geometry while enemies are fucking your ass
>better just fuck my shit up and optimize catacombs so badly you get 1-2 fps looking at a plain brick wall and have to godmode through the entire section because it's literally unplayable
>while we're at it, better make the catacombs boss spam an earthquake punch that flings you across the room any time you're anywhere close to it and the only time it's vulnerable is when it's randomly using a short-lived shooting attack which it only seldomly uses

It has been some time since I looked at it. Is ZDL the best Doom manager? I remember an anon here was working on something for managing Doom wads and mods.

Are there any alternatives to Simple Quake Launcher? That won't work on my system for some reason.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98003-the-alfonzone/

So here's something interesting, a 62 Map GZDoom megawad designed to be compatible with gameplay mods. 6 episodes, a mix of short and long maps, designed in mind with DemonSteele and High Noon Drifter

>>4409112
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98003-the-alfonzone/
downloaded.

>>4409112
>64-map GZDoom megawad
what the FUCK
downloading it.

>>4409112
>designed in mind with DemonSteele and High Noon Drifter

This is a bit of a misnomer; he tested with DemonSteele and High Noon Drifter, not designed for.

>>4409112

>>4409112
Oh man gotta check this out

>>4409123
>>4409112
49 of those are actually playable, but that's still neat I guess.

>>4409126
That's an awful skybox. Even most skytransfers are better.

>>4409131
It's something to do with the resolution, scale, or positioning. It doesn't "look" right. Maybe downscale it about 20-30% and sharpen it a little, but it just looks off.

>>4402953 (me)
>>4403018
okay so i figured out what was up with the sky texture in the halloween wad. it seems there were two definitions of sky1 in texture1 in gothortx.wad. the first was the original doom2 sky, the second was the replacement. unlike most things in the doom engine, it's the first one that wins in this case (multiple textures with the same name in the same texture lump). yet another annoying special case we all have to remember, sigh.

anyway my "solution" was to simply rename the original sky1 to sky1_ (with an underscore on the end - to save faffing around with deutex i did this with a hex editor, it's a one-byte change to the file, offset 0x63b5 changes from 0x00 to 0x5f) then my moon sky shows up as the regular sky1. no-one seems to be using it as a sky transfer, at least in the maps in the zip which i think is the latest. (downloaded from here:
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0BxbbtKR5bll_bk10Mk1IWHJiSnM )

anyway here is the updated gothortx in its entire one-byte-different glory:

https://a.uguu.se/FlLpvTSMq6Qd_gothortx_fixedsky.7z
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ao92tg

scroton if you are willing you may like to pull this into your zip on googledrive?

>>4409141
It seemed to work fine when I was working on the second map for the "garosaedris" sub-wad.

>>4409145
what source port were you using

I'm having a problem with yamagi quake 2
the music tracks don't play unless I turn shuffle on

>>4409110
Read a readme or two, open some zips, extract files, learn the -game option and 'map x' command. You'll be better off for it.

>>4409149
Whilst it's supposed to be worked with in Boom, I didn't have that handy as par always. ZDoom.

then again it was through gzdb and that thing behaves a little oddly.

>>4409159

>>4409158
oh okay then i'm not going to worry too much

>>4407304
Maybe an updated Doom infographic. And I know people say"just check quaddicted!", but I'd really like an infographic list of /vr/'s favorite Quake stuff.

>a new mesoamerican map

shut up & take my download

Tried to use Smooth Doom on ZDoom and I get this error, but not on GZDoom.

Execution could not continue.
Script error, "SmoothDoom.pk3:deco/monsters/zombieman.txt" line 89:
Expected string constant but got '+' instead.

>inb4 who uses ZDoom
I like playing at a chunky low-res.

>>4409172

Link?

>>4409163
Yeah, there shouldn't be any conflicts.

>>4409173
ZDoom is dead and way outdated.
Use GZDoom. And set the chunky low-res.

>>4407836
Similar thoughts, but with the TNT IoS. That thing was a shitload easier than the Doom 2 one.

>>4408997
>>4408989
I told Sarais he could kindly get out at any time, which is pretty much standard considering it's Sarais.
>>4408991
Thanks, though I completely suck at it.
>>4409061
Yeah I dunno what the hell actually happened there, NVENC seemed to desync the sound horribly so I swapped to x264, then the entire thing just broke.
>>4409030
That was a great idea by the way, it's still in.
>>4409051
>>4409056
I actually toned down the r667 monsters a lot, especially in later versions. The baseline ones were absolutely insane in terms of HP and damage.

Sorry to everyone who couldn't watch, I've never had that kind of trouble before but this is a new machine at a new location so maybe something went wrong partway. I'll see if I can figure out what happened and fix it up, I just wanted to have a way to show the mod off in non-webm form since it's pretty hard to capture the gameplay changes and little mechanical tweaks in ~3MB.

>All the rest of this shitposting
Top kek m8, I can't believe my name alone causes this. I didn't even read the thread until near the end of stream.

>>4409173
>I like playing at a chunky low-res.
GZDoom literally allows you to select between 2D and real 3D rendering, as well as full color, for the former, if you want to.

It has all kinds of resolutions and filters can be turned off.

>>4409176
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97377-new-maps-feedback-for-my-project-appreciated/

>>4408004
I swear, Yholl and Shivers sometimes seem like a married couple.

>>4409183
>considering it's Sarais.
But okay.

>>4408070
You know, this is how I suspect the original Cyberdemon looks like under his skin (sans gatling cannon of course). The sprite always seemed to imply a more thorough cyborg conversion than merely an arm and a leg.

>>4408152
>misusing memes
He's not misusing the word, unless you think meme means something more like "funny captioned internet pic".

>>4407270
Is there documentation for the old doom map specification? Implementing it would be a nice code challenge.

>>4409209
http://www.gamers.org/dhs/helpdocs/dmsp1666.html

>>4409192
yholl seems to give that impression with whoever he is working with, remember when people used to ship him with kyle872?

I remember you was shitpostin
misusing your memefluence
sometimes I did the same

>>4409217
confirmed: yholl is best waifu

>>4409224
I want Yholl to DECORATE my PK3s

>>4409224
no he's a whore, he's NTRing his first husband kyle with sgtshivers

>>4409220
we should never give Graf control, go back home.
control, go back home.

>>4409112
Second map in. Pretty good so far.

>>4409231
This made me download.

>>4409215
thanks bruh

>>4409231
>sector pizza

>>4409239
>>4409231
>Sector Starch-Disk

>>4409242
>he doesn't like starch, grease and salt

>>4409250
>He thinks I don't like starch, grease and salt
>:^)

>>4409220
>>4409230
I'm listening to that album just now while finishing my map. go figure.

So; for whatever reason I decided to put in grey liquid.

There's no grayfall for whatever reason. Improvising brings me to Adel_P60's.

Works for my purposes.

>>4409265
Pineapple on pizza is fucking wrong. It's worse than FIREBLU, STARTAN2, and chaingunner closet traps combined

>>4409294
>FIREBLU, STARTAN2, and chaingunner closet traps combined
thanks for the map idea

>>4409305
name it "the ultimate pineapple pizza"

How do I disable the custom weapons in Strange Aeons when I'm playing with a gameplay mod?

>>4409305
>>4409308

>>4409309
You have to manually patch them out.

>>4409317
I assume I need SLADE for that?

hey term remember when you were making that loss map the other night and you shot a rocket launcher at a closed door and died

>>4409317
Alright, how would I go about doing that?

>>4409321
remember when he was going back and forth into a hallway shooting stuff with the Ancient Aliens rocket launcher, saying this is the boring part, and then he strafed into a wall and blew himself up?
Pepperidge farm remembers.

>>4409323
Disregard this, I wanted to play with high noon drifter and it turns out Term had already made a patch for that himself.

>>4409294
>Fireblu
>Bad

>>4409321
>>4409325

I think there might be an unconscious reason I tend to make explosive weapons do only a fraction of self-damage to the player.

>>4409331
hnd and strange aeons is a fantastic combination

I gotta say, this new/last Oblige is pretty good. It's got just about everything good from previous versions all mixed in. Combined with ObHack for an improved version of the really old generator, you can really crank out some decent random level sets.

>>4409354
What weapons you playing that with?

>>4409369
https://mega.nz/#!D0MnVTYb!2IWlvUTX8iPgQPDORN33A2KA1yXSUl9-zWCV-iDB8HY
The thing is practically made for this.

>>4409371
Ah right, FKER, I shoulda guessed.
I've toyed with the idea of making a simple weaponset that'd play nice with Oblige maps. Might be something fun to make later down the road

>>4409378
Honestly I think the monsters are more important. Weapon sets are a dime a dozen but decent random monster sets are really rare.

>>4409380
GOOD weapon sets are rare though, plus the reason why you don't see many custom monster packs is it's a bitch to make interesting monsters balanced around the vanilla weapons, if you make the monsters faster or more aggressive, you'll NEED something more than just vanilla weapons to take them on.

Come to think of it, the best answer for this is to make a weaponset with custom monsters.

>>4409382
>plus the reason why you don't see many custom monster packs is it's a bitch to make interesting monsters balanced around the vanilla weapons

This sounds like a challenge.

>>4409382
Which is exactly what FKER is, and why it works so well. The monsters are a bit OP at times but pretty much everything has been buffed, with the exception of starting gear. You can really take apart a crowd quickly with some of these guns.

>>4409385
Sounds like you want to take such a challenge on.
Do it. This world could do with more monster packs.

>>4409382
Nothing too exciting, but I've had a couple ideas in the past:
>Pinkies that have half the health and deal less damage per bite, but are twice as fast.
>Another resurrecting that fires out a wall of fire to block movement.
>A Mancubus on a hovercraft.

>>4409398
>ressurector who blocks movement with fire walls
a bit too strong

>>4409404
I don't think it would if it had low health.

What do you guys think about this guy?

>>4409382
https://mega.nz/#!ehNkiayC!ZeobVizI06GanKBOZAuPhDfIUVP0nNE3Pu7Uqe43GSE
So I realized I posted the link to the enemies only version, anyways I fixed up a sprite name collision so it works with HND now. These enemies are tackle-able with the vanilla weapons but you'll probably get murdered on a few times.

>>4409398
>A Mancubus on a hovercraft.
Make it a floating mobility scooter.

>>4409398
>>4409418
>http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/beastiary-mainmenu-136-69621/38-doom-style6/1501-volacubi
Just shoop this a bit.

>>4409413
I have no idea who that is.

>>4409413
>check out my channel guys

[sweats profusely]
I hope you like it when it's done

>>4409413
Incredibly annoying voice, but he's not wrong on his points in that video.

>>4409439
>Didn't crop it
oh for fuck sakes.

>>4409413

I don't know. What do you think?

>>4409439
Isn't Avira antivirus kinda shit nowadays?

>>4409447
lol i dunno
shit happened on the other drive
can't be arsed anymore; just wanna enjoy myself again.

This map is turning out to be a real pain in the ass though. Not so much that it's not co-operating; it's just tedious and time consuming; and I'm not entirely certain on the visuals yet.

>>4409413
>1.1k subscribers
This is you isn't it?

>>4409521
With that most recent video it sure seems like they did it, waited a week and then tried to link it here.

>>4409112
Quantity over quality really shows in my opinion.

I took a look at some random levels, and most of the time it was basic geometry with not a lot of detailing and palette swapped textures that didn't look great.

Also, going into a level and seeing a monster count of 745 is a turn off for me.

>>4409413
Say what you want about [the unspeakable], but right now I'm having a guilty blast chucking these fuckers left and right. The novelty may wear off in a few days, but I can't deny I'm currently having fun (not allowed) with it.
That being said, I can't decide which grab system is the less shitty of the two.

>BD
>requires the Berserk, requires to be using Fists, but can grab zombies and imps at any time

>PB
>doesn't require Berserk, can be used even while holding other weapons, but requires the victims to be in down-but-not-yet-out state

>>4409609
You have no idea how badly I want to make a grab and throw mod for Doom. But implementing a system that makes sure monsters don't instantly die when picked up and thrown would be difficult

>>4409206
"plutonia is hard" is not a meme, it's a popular misconception. It is an opinion, and statement that can be argued about.
Someone that is isolated from the Doom community can play Plutonia, consider it hard then tell other people it is hard.
"aggitated skeleton" and "distant chaingunner" are memes. Modders putting revenants at the end of their WIP showcase webms are also a meme, or rather a memetic mutation of "agitated skeleton" meme.
Somone isolated as per above case would not come up with them on their own, but another isolated community would come up with something completely different which would be a memetic genesis.

>>4409656
>Modders putting revenants at the end of their WIP showcase webms are also a meme
It's actually just one guy.

>>4409497
coming along nicely. map path and flow mostly done; just need to rig up the Icon's room and we're laughing, at least; on the actual geometry and complete layout side; we've got some other anon who's filled in some blanks and i've tweaked accordingly, and there's a slight bit of final detail and balance, but we're almost done with my [third] /vr/y spooky map

I may do 4-5 of them then go back and revise again based on final feedbacks.

How are people enjoying Map03 and Map08?
Any additional words for them?
Would you like to play around with the current revision of the unfinished and unexitable M08?

>>4409670
>M08
Sorry. M09 is the incomplete one. I'm being fucking retarded again.

on doom 64 ex my mouse wont look properly. it just pans a few centimeters in either direction even though i have mouselook enabled

im on windows 10 btw

>>4408127
Plutonia's reputation for difficulty is perfectly justified when you take into account that its a pretty big step up from both Doom 2 and TNT on UV. People with no experience with pwads are certainly going to notice.

To people that are well versed in pwads (mapsets in particular), its still challenging enough to keep you awake, but fairly tame for the most part. I actually think the Revenant count is a bit overstated when compared to even the tamer pwads of modern times.

>>4408152
I think this is kinda funny, because a lot of people that try to avoid modern games like to go on about how games used to be harder. Doom 1 and Doom 2 by themselves are actually pretty easy games compared to most other classic FPSs (including Wolfenstein 3D, funnily enough)

>>4409630
not to mention problems with hitboxes
giving the player precise manipulation of a given monster's position is bound to get something stuck somwhere

>>4409729
Good point. What if we did it like Snow Bros, Bubble Bobble or a lot of other single screen arcade games of that generation? As in you shoot the monsters with a weaker weapon til they get stunned or die, at which point they turn into a projectile that can be used to wipe out other monsters?

I return with more feedback about GMOTA, kegan. This time i will go on deeper detail with the subweapons and powerups since Fear (as in, the Scythe map) made me cycle through EVERYTHING

The Hatchet is very decent, my fav when it comes to versatility because it rebounds and arcs down which means you can throw them on some monster traps where monsters come out of the floor. Power Up is AMAZING in cramped maps, it shreds everything, and its also a nice throwback to Psychic. -The Torch is actually good, it rips through crowds and floorhugs, it came in handy in said map where i cycled through everything. Power Up is weak though, i expected that bigass slash to instakill anything below Baron of Hell health but even the fatsos tank it. -The Daggers are pretty nice, while the spread makes it mediocre to "snipe", its pretty good anyways, the powerup is good for clearing out crowds of weak monsters, against a closet of revenants you're getting boned though. -The Lance is probably the token ranged weapon nothing else to say but the power up shouldn't be so prone to fail, it needs some range to impact really hard but overall, its very destructive. -The glass bombs are rocket launcher tier, it kills monsters but also kills you. Power up is MEATY as hell and it evens out considering it leaves you out of your sword. -Boomerangs are kinda fucky, i don't find a big purpose for them against crowds outside of having a subweapon that barely runs out of ammo but in that case i found the shield slightly better and the Power up seems decent but i wish the swordboomerang could go back to you faster so you could throw a ripper that comes back in a short time, kinda like some of the boomerang-like weapons from Megaman. -The wand is pretty good for a ranged weapon as it doesn't outclass the lance and the orbital swords help with cqc. And i already talked about the shield in my other post, MVP at crowd control. Next post will be about Blazter Subweapons and the BFG. And a Bug

>>4409762
Now about everything else.

First of all, bug report: Revenant gibs (pic related) are +SOLID, you can slash them which farms up blue power and you can also slash them with powered-up Zarach to restore health I abused this like a little bitch in said Scythe Map so i am ashamed. and them being solid killed me so many times because i got stuck with them

Second of all, the supreme slash. This thing is pretty cool as it rips through a LOT of shit and that death effect is rad and when i was using the boomerang power up, i found out that the BFG on fists gives you the Fist of the North Star, god damn the stream of punch projectiles is just amazing it gave me a lot of reasons to throw the sword

Now for Blazter subweps. I already talked about the heatblast, that shit is op and im glad you're nerfing it.
Also apologies for not using the real names, i didn't memorize them. The shotgun subwep is actually strong it can kill a bunch of things at close range, the spikeball is decent to control crowds and it doesn't kill you as much as the other blazter subweps, cluster missile is the second best blazter power up (could be first but as i said, heat blast is 2op4me), my personal favorite. The big grenade is probably the most explosive weapon in the mod but god damn this kills you as much as it kills enemies. Spike vulcan is just shoot a lot and keep shooting, glad you nerfed the ammo usage because damn, when i saw it on Term's stream i was like "shit son that's op".

Keep up the good work, kegs.

>>4409762
>>4409771
Another fine block of feedback, I recently buffed the torch's range and damage output a little, along with buffing the firebrand sword slash. Here's a webm of the tweaked thunder stinger move, you shift into lightning mode a lot faster and it does more damage, so hopefully that's better. I've also buffed the lance's damage output.
Regarding the boomerang sword tech, I recently made it so the sword bounces off monsters and flies back towards you afterwards, though it'll continue to fly around going apeshit for its normal length, if it continues to be underwhelming I have another plan for it.

That bug is fucking hilarious, though I'll need to fix that ASAP. Thank you for all of this and I'm glad you're enjoying GMOTA.

>>4409554
I'm secretly moot himself. I took my trip off and waited for a year to post here.
I'm also jesus, lamb of god. I took several millennia off only to post here so nobody would notice.
I'm also your mom, I take chances at shitposting whenever I'm not busy cleaning around the house.
I'm everyone itt too, but I have to wait a couple hours in-between strings of posts so it's not as evident.

>>4409787
If Jesus is Lamb of God what is Doomguy?

>>4409554
that's very, uh, specific.

>>4408724
>>4408747
>>4408813
>>4408815
yea, you might not want to speak of graf, or some rogue mods/janitors will go into autistic rage and delete your posts!!! i'll leave this here anyhow for ppl to use to make beautiful mockery of graf in the future

>>4409806
man, i can't believe off-topic irrelevant forum drama is being deleted
what a shame

>>4409812
zdoom is an aspect of the community, and one of the only things (and NOT the only) that make a good portion of the community nowadays.

therefore ppl like you are pretty dumb for saying that anything to do with the forum being irrelevant are stupid and entirely invalid

>>4409812
But how else will I anonymously vent about people I don't like?

>>4409818
man, i can't believe off-topic irrelevant forum drama is being deleted
what a shame

>>4409780
Yeah that distance range for the thunder stinger is better than the one on pre-release version. And i'm pleased to see the rest of the changes.

>>4409823
exactly, and i'd go as far as to say that a quarter of the individuals present on /doom/ the majority of the time, are from zdoom forums.

>>4409824
i didn't quite get that the 2nd time either, hope u don't mind drawing it out to me a bit more

>>4409829
>exactly
That was not encouragement.
/doom/ is not your anonymous ventbox.

>>4409832

>>4409812
it's not irrelevant when he makes some change that makes the engine 90% of you use to play the game noticably worse.

>>4409413
this person is OK.

>>4409852
since no link was posted i can't "check it out" as it were

>>4409854
step 1: go to youtube (https://www.youtube.com)
step 2: navigate your way to the search bar at the top of the page
step 3: type "unreliable garbage" in it and press enter
step 4: click on the first channel that you find

see? it wasn't that hard now was it, anon? i would've given you a gold star for effort if you would have at the very least, tried before!!!!!

>>4409846
Sure, when he fucks the engine that's relevant.
Crying about his posts while on an Taiwanese basket-weaving forum like a pussy hiding behind a shield of anonymity isn't.
Sorry, this isn't your place to cry about zdoom staff without repercussions, none of us give a shit about forum politics.
GTFO, ex-pat.

>>4409858
Hold up, walk us through step 2 more thoroughly please.

>>4409862
there ya go pal

>>4409858
why should i bother though? if you can't provide a link to your channel then you must think it's rubbish and not worth visiting. in that case, why should i waste my time jumping through hoops to access it?

>>4409858
I love how you smugly give us step by step instructions of how to do this ourselves, when you could've used less effort by just giving a link.

Congrats, you played yourself

>>4409861
The hell does ex-pat mean anyway

>>4409867
>your channel
actually not mine, just checked it out myself and subbed since i thought it was cool

>>4409868
no, i have fun doing these things; there isn't any harm in doing it

>>4409861
you're not much of a believer in the right to criticise without persecution, i see.

>>4409870
short for expatriate, someone temporarily residing in a country other than their origin

the application is questionable, given how 4chan isn't a country. but for someone who only comes to /vr/ to whine anonymously, it fits. we've always had an annoying history of people who jump on after being banned to cry about their banning.

>>4409873
So criticise him to his face where he can see it, instead of hiding and shitting up an entirely different forum.

>>4409876
Makes sense, I was wondering if the pat was short for something along those lines. Thanks for clearing that up for me, and you're right about people getting banned to come here and complain about it.

>>4409870
means you emigrated here from somewhere else.

unfortunately in this case it has an unintended consequence. not being an expat means you must have got into doom here on /vr/, not been a part of a different community such as doomworld or zdoom beforehand. but since /vr/ is only 5 years old, that implies you must have got into doom less than 5 years ago. which means if you're not an ex-pat you are outright underage, or at the very least you are the proverbial doom baby that one faggot keeps ranting about.

bit of a sticky situation, eh?

>>4409883
I mean in my case I've always liked doom, I didn't come from any of the other doom forums, though I DID use to participiate in the /v/ doom threads back in the day.

This is getting dumb, I wanna go back to talking about weird and interesting gameplay mod concepts.

>>4409883

I got into Doom on /v/.

>>4409883
alternatively, you've been on /v/ or took part in the /vg/ threads.
/vr/ wasn't the start of doom on 4chan, remember.

>>4409885
>weird and interesting gameplay mod concepts

Michael Jackson's Moonwalker Doom when

>>4409890
>kick fairy dust at demons, hold button to spin and cause dance numbers which cause them to gib at the end

>>4409887
>>4409886
hmm. all right, point taken. but if you've been around for long enough you've been playing doom for years before 4chan was even created. in which case it's impossible to not be an expat.

>>4409885
I've always wanted a Drag Queen mod.
Basically, it just changes the monster sprites so they now wear women's clothes and wigs terribly.
>Chaingunners in big gingham dresses
>Mancubi with blonde wigs and spilling out of daisy dukes that are many times too small for them
>Pinkies wearing too much makeup
And so on.

>>4409885
>This is getting dumb, I wanna go back to talking about weird and interesting gameplay mod concepts.

All right. Here's something to chew on.
One thing I've been thinking about lately is how death is handled--there's been a lot of situations where you could just narrowly have made it through a situation, but an unlucky hit kills you and you have to restart the area.
This isn't a bad thing! If you fuck up, do it again but better this time. But I do think it would be interesting to experiment with.

One idea I've been tossing is the idea where death isn't actually the end of the game. So you've got one character who actually has two forms, one "alive" form and one "dead" form. Both can move around, and you start "alive", but killing/gibbing/draining enemies gives the "dead" form more HP.
Once you die, you shift to the dead form, and your HP starts draining bit by bit. You can kill/gib enemies to bump it up more, or pick up more medikits to bring your alive form's HP up, and once the dead form's timer runs out, it checks to see if you've gathered any HP for the alive form. If so, you swap back to being alive again--if not, game over for real.

>>4409898
A Wizard's Lizard does something like this, after running out of HP you turn into a ghost and have access to certain Ghost areas, but otherwise you continue fighting as normal. It'd be a novel concept for Doom I feel.

>>4409898
there would probably need to be something to keep the dead form from being instant nuked if the player is on a slaughtermap

>>4409871
all right it's not your channel. point still stands though. if you can't provide a link to this channel you supposedly think so highly of, then you can't be very confident in your belief in its worthiness. this is offputting and suggests it's not worth other people's time jumping through hoops to access it.

>>4409907
yes. it's the best ever. and it's so damn good, that i am being selfish by keeping it all to myself.

sarcasm aside, if you think that finding a channel with a unique name is "jumping through hoops", then i'm quite astonished that you have the basic hand-eye coordination to use a computer

>>4409890
>>4409892
I remember an Anon made a level (quite loosely) based on MJMW
https://mega.nz/#!BtVxmRbT!yA5ZZy8TGBSlih8aYFxjzWpZ6OLr4A8qazFzOcYKj2g
Hope it gets people's creative juices flowing

>>4409915
i am perfectly capable of finding it if i wanted to. that's not the point, which for some reason you continue to attempt to evade. again: why SHOULD i bother, when you can't be bothered to provide a link?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_2bmYMiVW_16ARcuYp6MOQ/featured

Here's a link to the channel so the sperging can stop.

>>4409921
so asking for some reasonable explanation of why the effort is worth it is spergning now?

>>4409924
The contrary.

>>4409920
i'm eluding from that, because it's amusing to see you continue your autistic screeching about how i view the channel as some awe-inspiring amazing thing and how i'm not showing adequate effort to share it with you

>>4409929
lol if you think that is autistic screeching

>>4409935

>>4409885
k, I'll bite, here's one idea, but very unoriginal:

Limit Break.

Weapon alt-fire is the limit break, and the limit break mechanic itself is traditional (deal damage, gain limit; receive damage, gain more limit; gauge auto-fills when at 25% health, etc...)

I'm enjoying this unofficial Smooth Doom upgrade but I'm not 100% sold on the new colours.
Why was this done, anyway? It makes the plasma bolts look amazing but it messes with everything else. It looks really gritty and grimy, but maybe that was the point. In a way it reminds me a little of Quake 1.

>>4409950
This is also interesting, so would it be a different limit break for each weapon, and one limit break meter for all of them?

>>4409951
Well the dude who made this was posting the progress here multiple times and nobody really said anything negative about colors back then

>>4409959
It is starting to grow on me a little, I'm assuming it was done for atmospheric reasons.

What parts in levels/wads have really "wowd" you? Like stuff that makes you just stand back and admire the scenery?

This video shows one example, I haven't played Hunters Moon but the way the room forms itself looks like it's pretty sweet.

https://youtu.be/OgXQhvQWRUM?t=3m46s

"UAC Vinur Prime Research Base" had some pretty cool parts too, the outside areas looked very grand and the levels size grew on me by the end.

>>4409953
A singular bar is simpler, unless you'd want to exclude the limit gains from receiving damage.

>>4409413
I know it's a shameless shill, but I will still check it out because hey, decent Doom youtubers aren't easy to come by.

>>4409953
A singular bar is simpler, unless you'd want to exclude the limit gains from receiving damage. (and of course each weapon would have a unique special)

>>4409992
DOOM video vault is pretty good, he just plays wads with no commentary.

>>4409992
why are they needed? why not just play the game for yourself?

>>4409950
How about Doomer Arts

>Every weapon has a bunch of specials you can choose from
>Some utilitarian, general use ones also exist
>Gradually unlock some overtime, but have at least one each
>At the start of each map the game pauses and you select a limited pool of which ones you want

I know you can make sliding doors in GZDoom, but can you make them into the *floor*?

Like an airlock on a spaceship?

>>4409793
Fist of Rage

>>4410018
yes you can make doors that slide into the floor. they are called lifts.

>>4410021
Lifts go up and down, these doors go side to side.

>>4410028
how does a door go side to side into the floor?

>>4410031
Imagine a trap door, but instead it's an automatic door and doesn't open outward or inward, but into the walls either side of it.

>>4410032
oh, i get it now. sorry. had completely the wrong mental picture.

>>4409521
>>4409438
>>4409992

Lmao no it's not me, just a guy I'm subscribed to that I never see you guys talking about. I was just curious is all cus he doesn't seem that bad.

>>4410003
First, how the fuck am I gonna learn about new wads/mods? Youtubers are a pretty good way of doing that.
Second, I enjoy watching videos, and why not watch videos about something I enjoy?
Third, I don't mean lets players, I mean people who make videos ABOUT Doom. Like people who review wads, various discussion/opnion videos, et cetera.

>>4410061
> I never see you guys talking about
> 1K subs
Gee, I wonder fucking why?
(Cause nobody here knows him except (You))

What do you think about Maps of Chaos

>>4410078
Never thought he was really popular, just thought he made interesting doom-related stuff.

>>4410065
>First, how the fuck am I gonna learn about new wads/mods? Youtubers are a pretty good way of doing that.
forums. /newstuff.

>Second, I enjoy watching videos, and why not watch videos about something I enjoy?
fair enough i prefer to read

>Third, I don't mean lets players, I mean people who make videos ABOUT Doom. Like people who review wads, various discussion/opnion videos, et cetera.
again i'd rather just read than listen. shrug

Quaddicted needs to have a quake equivalent to the cacowards. If it happened, what would it be called?

>>4410109
The Quacksars

>>4410109
The Quemmys

>>4410109
Shub-Niggawards

>>4410109
>>4410124
>Shub-Niggawards
holy shit perfect
everybody else go home
my sides

>>4410109
The Quadawards
The Shub-Nig Prize
The Vorewards
The HUHchievements

High noon, high damage.

>>4410138
Are you using Tilt++?

>>4410109
The Quazzies

>>4410131
>The HUHchievements
perfect

>>4409217
Not gonna lie, every now and then Kyle and I get reminded of this and crack up laughing.

Good times.

>>4410142
Probly. I think it comes together with Lithium.

>>4410146
>2014
Christ. Time sure does fly

>>4410109
The QQQ Awards for Quintissential Quake Quality

>>4410109
The Doom Is Better Why Are We Bothering Awards

>>4410109
awards for quake would be cool, i wonder why there is nothin like this

>>4410150
Is Lithium a mod where the features are much more pronounced in a longer playthrough?

>>4409885
A minor idea/suggestion for La Tailor Girl:

- For every 10 points of single-instance damage received, the player drops a single point of scrap fabric (preferably the said scrap would get thrown towards the direction of where the damage came from). Likewise, "voluntary stripping" the suit you are currently wearing should apply this principle, but only as a chance (depending the the accompanying flavor text) and with the scraps thrown in random directions.

>>4410150
>>4410142
I wrote the view tilt code myself, it can be disabled (or mitigated) in the options.

>>4410168
Yeah, I would say that.