/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4401787

Magic Sword for SNES is a pretty good arcade port aside from having no multiplayer.

>>4401820
>Magic Sword
I'm not speaking specifically about ports, it's more about the lack of representation of this genre in the arcades while it was arguably the most popular in consoles at the same time.

And, again Magic Sword is cool but not much of a pure sidescroller platformer, right?

>>4401787

Maybe because it took too long to take your quarters so they made games like metal slug and splatterhouse instead.

>>4401846
I think they could have easily prevented this with tight time limits on stages and very hard platforming (places to fall to your death all over the place, etc.)
The Makaimura series exists and it was quite succesful, for example.
I don't see how they couldn't adapt the genre to operator demands. It's weird to me.

>>4401846
Bingo. They weren't popular in arcades because they weren't the most profitable.

>>4401853
This was something that arcade publishers tried, but it was never very successful. It's just not as profitable as other types of games.

>>4401898
Very interesting, could you give me examples of games where arcade publishers tried? I'm curious.

>>4401787
Most arcade runny jumpers I can think of come from a time when most people wouldn't have had a home console, or a pong machine at best. I can't think of many good ones.
Willow was good far as I remember though

>>4401969
It's a bit sad since I enjoy the standard of difficulty and sense of pace of arcade titles but I won't be enjoying it much within this genre. Oh well, at least I like the others a lot and plenty of console platformers come close.

>>4401787
The genre as a whole tended to be kinda slow-paced and relaxed back in the late 80s and 90s. There's only so much you can do while still making it as challenging as it needs to be.

>>4401904
The Wonder Boy games are pretty decent examples. Wonder Boy in Monster Land is a pretty cool example of an action adventure platformer as an arcade game.

>>4401904
recall horn
psychic 5
magical cat adventure
spica adventure
hangzo
liquid kids
osman

If you like Ghouls n Ghosts you might like Black Tiger.

JJ Squawk
Awesome game

>>4402118
Thank you, anon. I'll check them out in greater detail.

>>4402125

And Trojan as well, which I'm pretty sure is based on GnG hardware. It's practically just a ROM hack of the game.

>>4401787
j.j squawkers is the most underrated arcade platformer of all time, go and play it.

>>4401787
>mario bros was a pure sidescroller platformer
>super mario bros wasn't because you can shoot
literally retarded

>>4402548
Because jumping alone is boring, even Mario and Sonic have attack butons

>>4401787
Because jumping alone is boring, even Mario and Sonic have attack butons

>>4402629
Sure, but you know exactly what I mean. Compare platforming challenges in those games to a Metal Slug game. While you can still attack the gameplay focus is entirely different.

>>4401787
G'nG is a great marriage of precision platforming and run and gun action.

I love the fact that you can do some fighting game moves.

>>4402808
Metal Slug is a run 'n gun not platformer

>>4402916

It's a gunnervania, not a run 'n gun shooter.

>>4402943
It's a belt gunner, not a gunnervania and not a run 'n gun shooter

>>4402969
It's an STG with platforming characteristics, not a belt gunner and not a gunnervania and not a run 'n gun shooter.

>>4402916
That's the point

>>4403005
its a fun n gun

>>4403154
And you are wrong, action platformers aren't the same as run 'n guns, the former still have quite a bit of platformer while the later very little.

>>4403286
The point is a pure platformer is different from all of those even if it has an attack button

>>4403676
Why don't you elaborate for us. How exactly does one discern between the three?

>>4401846
They didn't even make a lot of runny-shooties or side-scrolling belt-scrollers after a point. With FTGs they finally found a way to kick at least one player off the game every five minutes no matter how gud they got. Otherwise every game had to support 3+ players simultaneously (BTGs and racing games) to generate maximum shekels. Something like Daimaikagoblins was very much an outlier by the late 80s.

>>4402176
Big Karnak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw8QpIejpg4

>>4403954
Those crazy Spanish devs.

>>4401787
Volgarr but it isnt vr :)

>>4402123
>>4402126
>>4402896
my first arcade games and holy shit many years passed since i was trying to know the name of the bird throwing tomatos game

>>4404034
It came out on Dreamcast.

>>4403005
>STG
What does the T stand for in this acronym?

>>4404657
Shoot The Game.

>>4403848
Pure: The focus is mostly platforming: jumping challenges

RunGun: Light or almost no platforming, usually getting locked in some rooms until you beat everything, and you are constantly shooting stuff, often in multiple directions

Action Platformer: The platforming aspect is de-emphasized compared to the pure ones, though it's still there, like a mid point between the two previous ones. You usually have some form of melee combat and mechanics related to it and enemies are more resilient than in the pure ones where they die quickly (often in one hit) to keep the flow. Here that flow stops so you fight some stuff between jumping. Think of Castlevania and the room in the fifth stage with the knights (that take a lot of melee hits) and medusa heads, and while you have more platforming than in say Contra it's not like in DKC.

It's a bit of a spectrum so of course some games overlap. Mega Man is in-between pure platformer and run and gun. You shoot (a lot, and it's not a powerup, it's integral) but by default only in one direction, there aren't as many enemies on the screen at the same time, you aren't stopped to kill everything unless it's a boss at the end of a stage and it still has more platforming stuff you wouldn't find in say Metal Slug (disappearing blocks segments and shit). There's a reason some people summarize the series as "Jump and shoot".

I don't feel like going into more detail since I feel I'm being played here by some bait or shit, you guys here are usually like that. You understand me perfectly, and you did even before I wrote this, but I'll give it to you.

>>4402118
Liquid kids hands down