/vr/ - Retro Games

ur mom aged poorly

>>4398080
That's a shame. But considering how jannky I remember it being at the time, I can imagine. I never liked the other games as much as it though and still the only game that ever gave me a jump scare. An HD VR remake with the same blocky weird graphics would probably be pretty genuinely horrific.

Randum fun fact: they filmed the movie in the town near where I grew up and I've hiked that creepy opening hole hundreds of times. I had no idea going in though, made for a surreal experience.

>>4398105
the exploration is nice and all, but the combat is really horrible. shitty input lag and horrible animations in terms of length

>>4398080
lol i can see the pixels in these snowflakes. Is emulation that shit?

>>4398108
>but the combat is really horrible
I don't want to be that guy, but limited combat is kind of the point of a horror game. It makes normal encounters (like being mobbed by knife-wielding school-children fetus things) tense and scary.

There are actually a number of moves in the combat that make it more satisfying than RE, for example. You have the back-jump, you can wind-up and charge your attacks, you can do a powerful, but slow smash-down that usually knocks out/down enemies - on top of the guns you find. I don't think there is input lag outside of the slowdown you might find in a game this old.

And imo the game is pretty generous with health, so it's not like you'll be dying much unless you play on Hard, in which case you will get fucked repeatedly.

>>4398108
Sounds about what I remember.

>>4398125
...yet RE combat was smooth since RE1, and I never once did something I did not intend to in those games.

>>4398080
i bet you're one of those people who just cant get there head around tank controls

>>4398129
smooth because combat was more limited and clearly not a focus, since enemies are bullet-sponges anyhow (to say nothing of vanilla RE's lack of auto-aim). Hence i said "satisfying," because you have more movement options and combat moves in SH1, which lets you tackle a number of playstyles. Much like RE though, you are better off avoiding most encounters, at least until you get the Hammer. You're especially better off ignoring small enemies in many cases or using your pistol to pacify them quickly.

>>4398129
>RE combat was smooth since RE1
was it really? I remember having a lot of difficulty aiming when I was a kid

>>4398080
>aged

>>4398080
I think it aged great actually, the janky graphics are creepy as heck and added to the experience for me.

>>4398164
>aged

>>4398169
?

>>4398169
Read the King's Field thread >>4387037

>>4398163
>>4398169

This. Video games don't "age", our perceptions of them do. If you can't turn off your brain and just fucking play a game, you're in the wrong hobby.

>>4398347

Put my grandparents tv back where it belongs.

>>4398347
>aged

Le aged

>>4398347
>our perceptions of them do.

That's what it means.

the word "aged" should be flagged when creating new threads and the poster banned for 24h

>>4398734
Why? It's a perfectly normal term.

>>4398080
>aged

>>4398984
What triggers /vr/ so badly?

>>4398080
>aged
Kill yourself fag

>>4398125
it sounds like you're saying you can charge and hold attacks, but you can't do that. it's just slice, double slice, and overhead/stab. and while the back-jump is neat, it isn't particularly useful due to its cooldown. walking backward, quickturning, and of course strafing while turning are still your best movement options around enemies.

also, hard isn't that bad unless it's your first playthrough and you aren't experimenting with how to tackle enemies. all enemies except the flyers and those hopping assholes (and maybe roaches, i forget) can be easily downed with at least one of your current melee weapons with the right setup/movement, attack type, and timing.

agreed on the lack of noticeable input lag, though. it's simply that attacks have varying startup times and harry doesn't go from zero to fast as soon as you tell him to move, but the former is good for balance and the latter meshes well with the game.

>>4398739
not that anon, but the proper way to experience /vr/ is in a closed space filled solely with oldschool awesomeness. for this thread, the year is 1999, and neither the game in question nor our perceptions of it (nor even our persons) have aged sufficiently to merit complaint.

banning is a bit mild, though. what we really need is wholesale mind cleansing of offending parties. these "baits" and "bantz", as well as the frequently hackneyed and always lessgood exchanges they spawn, can be forever removed; then all can equally bask in the warm, immutable glow of vintage vidya.

we can also install a selective memory reset function so all games and discussions remain as fresh as the first time.

>>4398080
Despite the artificial difficulty and trial-and-error gameplay, I'd consider it the Dark Souls of Alone in the Dark-likes.

>>4399017
>not that anon, but the proper way to experience /vr/ is in a closed space filled solely with oldschool awesomeness. etc etc

If you want to do that knock yourself out, but don't impose it on others.

>>4398159
Fucking this. I got to the first boss in the mansion, a giant snake thing iirc, and the prerendered camera angles fucked me over. On one side of the screen, I couldn't see the boss so I had no idea where to shoot. If I got close enough that the camera changed, I was right on top of the boss and was taking damage. I gave up and played a better game.

>>4398080
>damn this aged poorly
it's great, you're just millennial cancer shitposting it up.

>>4399647
Its not, its shit in gameplay terms when compared to other horror games of its time like RE1 or 2.

>>4399625
You might be retarded anon.

>>4399767
You might be autist anon.

>>4398108
you might be retarded anon

>>4399867
>objective remarks
>huur duurr might be retarded there anon

>>>reddit

>>4399876
>objective remarks
scratch that, you actually are retarded

>>4399881
>muh bad controls are actually good

please.

>>4398080

Sorry, games don't age.

You must be mistaken

>>4399885
>says the REtard
the irony is palpable

>>4399890
lol the clunkiest RE game still plays literal aeons ahead of the "smoothest" SH title.

>>4399052
Not that anon, but if you're going to continually come in here and compare to modern games, you're going to have a real hard time enjoying anything.
>Man I fucking love this Legend of Zelda game. How come it doesn't have a giant wall of customization?
>Oh man, Silent hill games are bad because I can't just steamroll through the terrors
>Oh god, why was crash bandicoot such a shit game? I mean, all he does is run and jump and spin.
Oversimplifications of things I've seen, but lets be very real here, the point of Silent Hill was very different from Resident Evil. Resident Evil sucks, honestly. The first 2 games were pretty good, but everything since has been worse than cheesy zombie films, but then again, that is Capcom.
Sometimes, instead of going "Man, this game sucks because it doesn't let me do what I want" you need to understand that certain games demanded you play a different way.

>>4399896
>shitting on RE3 indirectly

Get a fucking grip. Obviously you won't expect old games to have everything that new ones, but you will be way more naturally unforgiving of glaring flaws that those old games indeed do have, and the only reason why you were back in the day was because you literally didn't know better. Gee wiz, who knew 14yo people who play video games are more easily entertained and immersed than late 20-somethings or worse.

Doesn't mean it's wrong to state those fucking flaws today in year 2017 if they are objectively exactly that - flaws. Which lack of customization surely isn't.

>>4399905
>naturally unforgiving of glaring flaws that those old games indeed do have
yeah, like fixed camera angles and tank controls :^)

>>4399910
Not really, no. Fixed camera angles are a great artistic choice, and tank controls are simply the most convenient and fluid way of gameplay when it comes to those camera angles.

If you struggle with them in year 2017 maybe you are just cognitively impaired in some way.

>>4399916
>are a great artistic choice
not really, they're just a shit solution to get around hardware limitations
if they were an artistic choice they'd still be used instead of being dropped the minute the technology improved

>>4399905
Look, comparing Silent Hill to Resident Evil is like comparing Amnesia to, fuck I dunno, Singularity. Singularity, you have a gun pretty much right off the bat and your job is to shoot things. Amnesia, you have to run away.
It's not the same thing.
Also RE3, as cool as it was, was still a pretty bad game. Resident Evil has always been flaming hot garbage and it's premises should have been left in the zombie films from the 70's with the funk and tits.

>>4399925
>if they were an artistic choice they'd still be used

Its exactly that because of them being an aritstic choice that they aren't used at all. It requires art direction, it requires you to create those backgrounds. Why the fuck do you think indie shitters haven't jumped on that train? Because its fucking hard, time consuming and very few people can pull it off right.

Why the fuck do you think horror games have became literal walking simulators with an occasional run/chase sequence?

>>4399928
>Also RE3, as cool as it was, was still a pretty bad game

Elaborate in a non-shitpost way so that I can methodically deconstruct your shit opinions.

>Resident Evil has always been flaming hot garbage

Ahhh you are just a brainlet I see. Disregard everything.

>>4399932
>Disregarding everything else in light of personal opinion
RE1 and 2 threads all the time, RE3 threads almost never. Fuck off my board faggot.

>>4399934
>my board

Wew lad.

>>4399932
I see, so the entire point here being you wanted to talk about Resident Evil.
Start a thread about Resident Evil, then.

>>4399929
>Because its fucking hard, time consuming and very few people can pull it off right.
and because very few people consider them to be a good thing except deluded REfags who've convinced themselves to like shit because they grew up with it

>Why the fuck do you think horror games have became literal walking simulators with an occasional run/chase sequence?
Because game like Soma are simply better, both in terms of gameplay and artistic value

>>4399936
No, you don't "see" anything obviously. Someone else wanted to talk about it and started the fucking argument above. I was merely one of the many who interjected.

>>4399938
>Because game like Soma are simply better, both in terms of gameplay and artistic value

Take your bait and fuck off.

>>4398080
Aged poorly? It's a better & scarier game than Resident Evil.

>>4399941
>get BTFO'd
>cry bait
face it, your shitty AITD clones aged like dog piss

>>4398163
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>>4398347
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>>4399886
What did they mean by this? Are they implying that games are immune from the passage of time?

>le it aged like milk meme

luv it XD

>>4399943
Go back to twitch and play your walking simulators you fat fuck.

>>4399949
nah, seeing a REtard say some other game aged is amusing, and watching you have a cognitive dissonance induced meltdown is hilarious

>>4399928
>comparing Silent Hill to Resident Evil is like comparing westshit Steam fart app#17 to westshit Steam fart app #80.
Can you make a comparison to something that mentally developed people can relate to?

>>4398347
>Video games don't "age", our perceptions of them do.

No shit, that's exactly what it means. Old legacy control shooters are aged because their control schemes are far removed from what the current norm is, for instance. Typing into a text prompt to do actions in adventure games is not as intuitive as clicking on the screen, etc. Aspects of games are replaced by "better" ones and these elements cause things to feel old and outdated.

>le aged maymay

>>4399947
Some people are too autistic to think games don't exist in a vacuum, and can't possibly feel more awkward or clumsy in the future than they did at the time of release.

>>4400064
You are an imbecile.

Games are progressing notch by notch every year, they change so slow that you don't really notice the improvement of responsiveness in controls and whatnot.

How the fuck do you explain the fact that people go back to the games they ALREADY played a decade ago and they go "oh wow this really isn't as great gameplay-wise as I remember it to be" ?

I get it that you /vr/ shitters are above average on the autism spectrum but come on.

>>4400075
What? I'm guessing you have difficulty reading, or responded to the wrong post, because I'm pointing out directly anyone who thinks a game can't feel aged or dated is retarded.

>>4400078
your post aged badly so he couldn't understand it anymore

>>4399947
Remember that you're on an international website. We talk in English, but it's not everyone's first language. I think this is the root of the whole issue the board is having right now. Not everyone is as familiar with the quirks of English phrasing like native speakers.

>>4400064
>aged

>>4398080
Are you a faggot, OP? It's probably the only survival horror game on the PS1 that actually aged well. The use of fog still looks great to this day and the scares are more refreshing than ever.

>>4400101
oh!

>>4400270
>the only survival horror game on the PS1 that actually aged well.
hellnight ain't bad either

>>4400286
Actually haven't gotten around to that one yet.

Is the original White Day any good? I didn't like the recent remake at all

>>4400290
white day has its moments but it's kinda tame and slow, has some subtle scares though

>>4400270
>H'd

>>4398118
>lol i can see the pixels in these snowflakes

Ashes.

>>4400316
>Ashes.
that's bullshit from the movies, it's snow

>>4400316
Now that's some good bait.

>>4400319
It is in the game too.

@4400627
>It is in the game too
no (You) for you

>>4400283
Which is fine, and good we have posters from all over here. We just don't need shitposting about it.

>>4400064
About right.

>I say a game has aged in a retro board, everyone will surely get baited!
>hehe

So we're going to complain about graphics on a retro game board now?

>>4400761
Huh?

>>4400762

>>4400319
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>>4400635
No trolling. Kaufman is the only person who refers to it as snow and he both hadn't seen it close up and was invested in not giving away what was going on. Ash makes sense to the story, snow doesn't.

>>4399052
full understanding comes with assimilation, and you will realize there is no need for questioning.

worry not that you're a special case. while those incapable of basic comprehension, such as yourself, are often resistant to treatment, you may take comfort and satisfaction in the knowledge that you can always be repurposed for both the greater good and the relishment of others.

>>4400775
>>4400761

If you're gonna shitpost at least read the thread

>>4398080
>damn this aged poorly
Not really, was a janky mess when it was released.
But it was the best RE clone. SH2 was the one that was truly great, SH1 is an ok game.

>>4398108
It's not a fighting or action game.

>>4400894
Mmmm... authoritarian wordsalad!
Delicious piss and vinegar dressing.

>>4401034
>Not really, was a janky mess when it was released. But it was the best RE clone.

That's exactly something having aged badly. In 1999 janky crappy controls were acceptable and players looked past them for the other aspects, but now they expect more.

has anyone figured out how to distill the anti-aging properties of video games in order to form a serum to combat aging in humans?

>>4401478
upboated haha xD

>>4401140
>but now they expect more

You don't tell me what I'm supposed to expect. Especially not in the current backwards AAA industry where even games featured in this board had a more integral experience.

>>4401550
I'm just trying to get you to understand what the phrase means so you stop shitposting up the board over it.

>>4399947

Yes. Code is forever. Like Chess or Checkers or Rummy.

>>4401686

>he thinks there's only one of us

Your heresy will never win infidel.

>>4401697
One, 10 or 100 doesn't matter. You're either being literally autistic, you're not native English speakers or this is pure trolling but it's ridiculous.

It's a perfectly normal English phrase with a meaning easily understood by people for a long time. If you don't understand it then learn, but shitting up thread after thread after thread with it month after month is horrible.

>>4400064

Awkward and clumsy compared to *what*? Who's standards are we using here, and what makes them so superior? Just because something is a currently accepted practice, does not mean it is automatically superior to standards that came before. Human history is not one unending brass marching band parade celebrating a perpetual upward spiral of refinement; there can be backslides, missteps, or regressions.

>>4401701

>rejecting a premise is automatically autism

Sure thing there champ.

>>4400727

>whining about the shitpost boogeyman

>>4401140

>That's exactly something having aged badly.

But Anon! How can that be? Games don't age. It has been proven to be so. Either you like Silent hill or you don't.

>>4401710
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>>4401703
Yes. Possible autism is me being generous, you are just trolling. Shitposting up multiple threads for months on end because you are functionally illiterate can be nothing else. >>4400101

>>4401721

You're the one who's thrown out every meme-worthy buzzword he knows in an effort not to engage, m8. Not me

Then you drizzle some nice conspiracy theory sauce of your dogshite sundae.

>>4401736
I've explained it in detail multiple times over the threads and posted examples in use. Go read the King's Field thread if you are genuinely confused as to what the phrase means when used.

You are the one spouting literal memes. Educate yourself or don't, but you have no excuse not to and coming to an English speaking website and shitposting about common English phrasing is pure shitposting. End of story.

>>4401741

Uh, I speak English just fine, dude. Was born in the flyover states of the USA.

Stop being such a big fucking baby when someone doesn't agree with you.

>>4401746
It's not a matter of opinion.

>>4401754

That's where you're wrong.

>>4401757
Sorry but we're not changing the English language because a handful of idiots or trolls on 4chan can't be bothered to learn to understand it.

>>4401771
Sorry but games don't magically become bad over time because some pampered numales expect them to play and look like modern titles

>>4401806
That's not what it even means. See, this is the whole problem. You don't understand something so instead of trying to, you just shitpost like crazy any time you see it mentioned.

I recently beat the school and saved game in that teacher house. Now heading to the church. I guess I spend like 2-3 hours.
How much is left till the end of the game?

>>4401927
idk, about 3 more hours

>>4398080
It did not. The MYST is part of the gameplay.

>>4401901
What about all those people who never played it before and don't have a problem with anything?

>>4402014
Do you think that's a greater number than the people who do find problems with it?

>>4402014
It has nothing to with having played it before or even if you like it. It doesn't even mean something is bad.

>>4392545
>>4394873
>>4395078

>>4401754
>>4401757
>>4401771
>>4401806
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>>4401927
Can you guys go somewhere else to jack off in each others mouths?

>>4402101
Stop using that horrible 2xsal texture filter, jesus.

damn this is round

damn this is so Japanese

>>4402101
I really, really wish it would stop. But I'm not switching to some kind of newspeak because people here won't learn how English works. I want to get back to just discussion of games.

damn this is not 3D

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>>4400270
Was it Cherryl ?

>>4401478
2D graphics are probably the best anti-aging property.

>>4402101
>>4402140

Anon, you don't get to lecture someone else about their sexual practices when it's found out that you're into anal prolapsing, to extend the metaphor.

>>4402413
It's almost never about graphics.

>>4398080
>1024x768
just like back in the day

>>4402085
Than that's YOUR problem, YOUR standards may have changed but EVERYONE's standards have

>>4402605
*haven't