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4386334 No.4386334 [Reply] [Original]

Looking for help finding an ideal desktop size tv to sit next to my computer to play my PS1. I don't know dick about old flatscreens...
Is a 4:1 screen ratio ideal?
Im using standard RGB cables.

Just looking for something that has a good picture and a true aspect ratio to play on.

>> No.4386338

>>4386334
>4:1 screen ratio
Sounds good to me bro

>> No.4386346

>>4386338
Fack...
>4:3

>> No.4386354

>>4386334
Modded ps3

>> No.4386456

>>4386334
>don't know dick
Clearly. Read up a bit or cry later when you get some shit advice.

>> No.4386685

>>4386334
>old flatscreen
Enjoy your motion blur, gray blacks, and 5 degree viewing angle, faggot.

>> No.4386771

>>4386354
Modded PS2 with games on HDD

>> No.4386782

>>4386771
>POPStarter
At that point you're better off using a PC emulator.

>> No.4386812

>>4386782
The only thing POPStarter does is redirect memory addresses, from a file to the CD reader.
PS2 playing PS2 images off the hard drive of USB drive does the same. Even the PS3 maps folders to the optical drive when you play them, even when that's much simpler.

At least POPStarter on the PS2 and PS1 games on PS2 in general are running with less emulation, PS3 and PC are full software emulation.
PS3 can't even do 240p. PS2 can.

>> No.4386831

>>4386812
POPStarter is literally a software emulator. It runs fully in PS2 mode and has no access to the hardware's PS1 mode whatsoever. Currently the only way to utilize the PS1 mode is by booting from an actual CD.

So again, you're better off just running Mednafen on a PC. It's more accurate and more convenient.

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>>4386812
Nah Pop is an emulator. It's a pretty good one but PCs even phones are just SO much more powerful. A better way to run game images without burning is actually from a PSP with component output cables but of course you miss out on many other parts of theexperience. And speaking of component cables...

>>4386334
OP I'm going to have to make some assumptions here but I'll try to help you out. I assume you're in the USA and talking about component cables since you didn't say scart. The PS1 can only output RGB though so you won't be able to display that signal on any US consumer TVs with "component" YPbPr inputs (that I'm aware of) so you would need a pro monitor like a PVM or alternatively you could play your PS1 game (from discs) in a PS2 which will output them over component to a US consumer TV.

I'm also going to assume you're asking about CRTs since you really don't want to use an LCD for a real Playstation so to answer your actual question, most cozy desktop stations use a 14". Lower left you can see my 14" dwarfed by my 60 inch plasma.

Finally, if you absolutely INSIST on using a flat screen, then know that it's a slippery slope that begins with you realizing emulation will work better on flat screens hands down and soon leads to you throwing your Playstation's real 90s PCB in the trash and stuffing a Raspberry Pi in there.

>> No.4386878

>>4386832
>emulation will work better on flat screens hands down
That depends on how deep down the rabbit hole you're willing to go. It's very possible to put together a real console and flatscreen setup that will outperform emulators, but it takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of money.

Much easier and cheaper to just get a CRT and run S-video into it, or get an RGB-to-component transcoder if you're feeling fancy.

>> No.4386927

>>4386831
>POPStarter is literally a software emulator.
>>4386832
>Nah Pop is an emulator.
Are you guys for real?
Man the tech illiteracy in here.

Check it up, the only thing it does is mount the VCD files as the optical drive and lunches them, it's PS2 native half-emulated shit with the original GPU but emulated CPU.
Unless you guys are talking Slims, I think latter ones only had full software emulation, the Fat ones don't and POPStarter is just a starter.

>> No.4386937

>>4386334
Get a pvm or a small consumer crt. If these are too big then just emulate, you can get a controller adapter for your pc for cheap these days

>> No.4386942

>>4386831
>>4386832
>POPStarter is a launcher which lets you play your PS1 games in combination with $ony’s PS1 emulator for PS2 (known as “POPS” or “SLBB-00001”). Unlike the previous POPStarter versions and the proofs of concept, POPStarter r13 does NOT contain the emulator itself or libraries that belong to $ony.
It's PS2's "native" PS1 support.
On Fat PS2's it's running off the real PS1 CPU and just emulates the GPU part. Correction for >>4386927

>> No.4386950

>>4386927
Emulated or not, there's several incompatible games so it's not a complete solution.

>> No.4386952

>>4386950
You haven't tried it in a while, have you?

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4387096

Op here

Appreciate the input and I think I have to clarify a few things. First I'm using my PlayStation over emulation, because I just prefer it that way. I like seeing it work and hearing the disc hum again.

Been doing some reading and if I went with a crt, I would be looking for a Sony over anything else?

I also found this little guy. (Pic related) Is the motion blur really that bad? And the blacks are really that gray?

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>>4387096

>> No.4387167

>>4387096
>>4387103
I've never run across something like that but I have a 640x480 crt with component inputs and even though it does display 240p correctly the ghosting and contrast are still pretty abysmal.

>> No.4387372

>>4387167
*lcd

>> No.4387854

>>4386942
Your reading comprehension is terrible.
>POPStarter r13 does NOT contain the emulator itself or libraries that belong to $ony.
That just means that the POPStarter package itself doesn't contain Sony code, meaning it's safe to redistribute. When you run it on a PS2, it's still starting POPS (hence the name), which is a full software emulator running in PS2 mode. Again, there's no way to put the CPU in PS1 mode unless you're booting from a disc. That's why POPStarter has compatibility problems that you don't see when you play from a real/burned PS1 disc.

>> No.4388514

>>4386334
14" pvms and the like are perfect for desktop gaming.

>> No.4388525

>>4387854
You might be confused here.
There's no software or hardware emulator on the PS2.
There only is ONE single way for the PS2 to play PS1 games. POPs IS the emulator that uses the actual PS1 CPU inside the PS2.

The compatibility issues come from loading. Related to particular streaming (ie texture) and video playback. Because that's all that POPStarter does, replaces you inserting a PS1 disc into the PS2.

You might want to read a little bit about the subject before commenting about reading comprehension.

>> No.4388579

>>4388525
No, sorry, you're the one who needs to read up on this.

The PS2 (until the slimline models) contains a physical PS1 CPU. In PS2 mode, this CPU is used as the hard drive and USB controller. When booting in PS1 mode, it's used as the primary CPU and the hard drive and USB are disabled. As such, it's impossible to run PS1 games from a hard drive in native PS1 mode.

POPS is unrelated to native PS1 mode. It's a software emulator that runs in PS2 mode with no access to the PS1 CPU. It's used by (among other things) the slimline models to facilitate backward compatibility since they had no physical PS1 CPU (they used a PowerPC core for I/O control instead).

Here's some reading material for you:
https://bitbucket.org/ShaolinAssassin/popstarter-documentation-stuff/wiki/history

>> No.4389661

For those games in green on the compatibility list popstarter works surprisingly well. Not as good as mednafen et al, but I appreciate the convenience of switching between PS2 games in OPL on internal hdd and playing something that works well like Alundra, Einhander etc. Why not do a bit of both?