/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

/vr/ HALLOWEEN MAP PACK
-Repugnus has put the Halloween mapping project on hold due to mapping fatigue and lack of submissions.
-Last updated WAD
https://drive.google.com/uc?authuser=0&id=0BxbbtKR5bll_bk10Mk1IWHJiSnM&export=download

QUMP
-Officially released. Go play it!
-https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4348815/#4353984

OP
-Looking to update the OP, suggestions are welcome
-Include The Inmost Dens somewhere?

=== NEWS ===

[11-5] Dakka apparently updated a month ago
http://git.jinotra.in/ijon/dakka

[11-5] Hexenkessel map released on idgames archive
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/hexekes

[11-3]eriguns v2.2.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=48208&start=45

[11-3] Marshmallow Doom: new source port based on Crispy Doom has first release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97811-new-beta-release-of-marshmallow-doom/

[11-3] Anon brings up a few Hexen II things
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4369234/#4371942

[11-3] La Tailor Girl beta released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343

[11-2] 32in24-16 released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/megawads/32in2416

[11-2] Netronian Chaos updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57964

[11-1] Death Wish for Blood updated
http://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood/downloads/death-wish-14#downloadsform

[11-1] BDv21 public beta released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-nov01test

[10-30] Castlevania: Simon's Destiny (GZDoom .ipk3) released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97654-castlevania-simons-destiny/

[10-30] DooD, underwater, and beer goggle shaders for GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=57168&sid=f5eee1857515849ac4fbe9c9e3d0a822

=== PREVIOUS ===

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=== PROTIP ===

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>>4376154
heil hitler

>>4376160
heil ur mum

gzdoom 3.2.1 keeps crashing on me. Is it a bug or something? I can't get it to work at all.

>Sgt Shivers is now online on ZDoom forums
P-Please

>>4376172
I-I will report you to the authorities, you can't say that and get away with it

>>4376178
>Yholl also online
C-Could it be?

>>4376154
Jesus, I get some guys are into ahegao, but this is just ridiculous.

>>4376204
>ahegao
is that a form of gas torture?

Is Chocolate Doom still the best way to experience Vanilla Doom?

Playing the Halloween wad now (slowpoke.jpg). On the second map. So far not bad at all. Although on the second map, there's a wall where the archvile clips through and can attack you through. Also in the first map there's a tree with a secret room in it, with nothing inside.

>>4376352
well what could possibly be more exciting than a hole in a tree

>>4376360

rule 34 surely has no limits

>>4376230
Its more the most convenient. Vanilla with Dosbox works fine if setup properly, but setting up dosbox properly is a hassle, especially if you don't have access to the gog/steam installs.

>>4376352
Further observations:
Map03 has a completely unnecessary ssg & associated revenant encounter (since the ssg is already in map01).
Map04 has cool architecture but is a huge leap in difficulty from the first 3 maps.
>>4376360
lel

>>4376176
same here. what do?

>>4376176
It's probably just shit, I went back to 3.1.somthing and it's suddenly fine again.

>>4376415
those maps weren't made with continuity in mind so the SSG isn't unnecessary

>you're actually supposed to play the level from start to finish without saves
>people actually do this on UV
>without quicksaving
>with pistolstart

This is probably the most casual post of the thread, but damn. Mind blown.

>>4376642

>>4376642
>>4376646
wad name pls?

>>4376648
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/ultramarine

>>4376649
Oh that kind of extreme long single maps, aright downloading thanks

is sector coloring a la quake 64 possible in quakespasm and the such?

I'm giving it a go right now and by god I love the look of it.

>>4376656

>>4376230
Doom runs full speed on DOSBox, no matter how shit your PC is, so Chocolate Doom is a rather pointless endevour.

is there a way to swap out the projectile shotguns in arcane dimensions for the traditional ones?

>>4376685
>so Chocolate Doom is a rather pointless endevour.
I wouldn't call it pointless. While you'll generally get the same experience having setup dosbox properly, Chocolate Doom does have the advantage of working natively on Windows, which means it'll work outside the box, and thus a lot less hassle to set up, especially for those who do not have immediate access to the gog/steam installs. It also has the option to disable the savegame and demo recording limitations of vanilla, as these only serve as inconveniences on the player, and don't effect map compatibility.

>>4376663
>30 sec par time

Wat?

>>4376685
Enjoy running ZDL with DOSBox, fucking retard. Why would I want to use an emulator that emulates an entire DOS environment instead of just double clicking a sourceport if I just want to play DOOM? It might be pointless to you, but I assume wasting time and being unable to have an easy drag-drop GUI to run WADs is your job. Enjoy it.

>>4376230
Yes. DOSBox is the most authentic next to building a retro rig, but Chocolate DOOM is the easiest. No use setting up DOSBox when you can just download chocolate DOOM and run your iwad in it. It’s just less hassle and you can still load patch wads later on if you want easily. With Vanilla DOOM it’s a pain in the ass.

>>4376570
No, because Quake doesn't use sectors, it uses brush mapping. Colored lighting is completely possible though, just add a key named "_color" to the light entity/entities of your choice (this includes sunlight, as sunlight_color) and a value of 'x y z' where each letters is the red, green, and blue respectively of the light color you want. You can use either 0-255 or 0-1.0; i.e. 255 255 255 is plain white light (the default).

>>4376707
Did you read the Readme?

>>4376610
Yeah I do that a lot with the exception of the pistol starts because the way the game is set up for me I retain all weapons for the next map so I figure no reason to really not play like this. I've tried pistol starts sometimes though just usually for certain individual levels I want to play.

UV is nothing really. Nightmare is the true test of difficulty.

>>4376154
Oh hey, my Hitler Ahegao pic in the OP, nice!

Completed 300mins/vr/ yesterday, thanks very much folks, that was a great WAD!

Blood is quite popular around here, why doesn't it have a pastebin?
I'd like to know which version I should get, and how to set it up with GDX.

>>4376797
nightmare is bullshit

it's actually easier to speedrun game on nightmare than play it properly

>>4376878
Glad you had fun with it, it was nice to knock together a doom map again and to see and play maps of all sorts.

What if DOOM had angels?

>>4376570
The best sector lighting I've seen is in Doom64 and its only decent PC port, Doom64EX

>>4377032
A very last episode unlocked after you finished all the other ones, all the levels are set in a beautiful and arcadic scenery, no fight with minions but only boss battles against the angels, after finishing all the levels you discover that were the angels who let the hell on earth or whatever, to punish mankind.
So you will kill all the angels, one angel/one level.

>>4377079

Owww

What is the widescreen option in BloodGDX for?
I'm running it in 600x480, and all it seems to do is stretch the game vertically a bit.
I'm not sure if I should leave it on or off for the original look.

>>4377079
>final boss is God
TO WIN THE GAME, YOU MUST KILL ME, JOHN CARMACK

>>4377105
Holy shit, that would be perfect.

>>4377105
>Giant sprite of Carmack photo making MMMMM sound.
That would Terrywad tier garbage.

>>4376736
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/ultramarine
Most mappers never change the par time to fit their own map, so the wad still displays the original Entryway par instead.

Not that anyone outside of speedrunners give a fuck about par times anyway.

>>4377132
the garbage of one man is the treasure of another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6arwHP1kVs

>>4377378
> Quake III engine
> Quake I branding
> DOOM skin

>>4377219
I was sleepy when i noticed that par time, but now yeah i thought on that, i keep forgetting that old maps the mappers don't care much about change the par time properly or even removing it.

>>4377378
what is this

>>4377105
DoomRL/10

>>4377409
Gzdoom is Quake 3 engine?

since frostgun doesnt seem to get much love, I figured to give SSG slot the same thing I did for rockets

do people like optionally chargeable guns?

>>4377432
> video title

Memento Mori turned out to be better than i thought.
Some of its secrets are fun and well done.

>>4376878
Now all we need is a 100 minutes of /vr/.

>>4377438
Thats Zandronum technically, DBThanatos always focuses his mods towards that.

I've noticed a trend recently where people write song titles on the screen with HudMessage. I saw it in few mapsets and gameplay mods. How do you feel about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib0ASwFrdCw
Reposting for fun

Are there any good new gameplay mods out?

About to start playing Disjunction on the advice of this thread, but don't want to play with vanilla.

>>4377684
High Noon Drifter

>>4377529

60 minutes of /vr/

>>4376610
If I don't limit myself to level start saves then the whole thing feels like cheesing the game.

If I start quick-saving then Pandora's box opens and the challenge is gone. I'll just mash that button after every encounter and all tension is gone.

>>4377719
I'll check it out.

>>4376994
What the hell is this?

>>4377780
6 minutes of /vr/
It's just a single room every time with some hastily made spam of Revenants and Chaingunners for each map

>>4377809
It looks like a succubus enjoying a rocket launcher a bit too much.
Being a demon I'd rather she felt the business end of one, but most modders seem to disagree. Whatever.

>>4377825
2 minutes to midnight

>>4377440
I do!

>>4377440
I like optionally chargeable guns

>>4377825
One room of /vr/

Can u guys post doom wojacks and meme shit? I need to start a folder

>>4377825
some gimmicky limit shit could be fun, maybe something like "20 monsters of /vr/" where you cant use more or less than 20 monsters and archivles are fine to resurrect enemies and lost souls spawned by pain elementals dont count towards limit
I imagine people would come up with interesting encounters, some levels would feel like boss encounters due to nature of enemy limit, and maps could be short because of that and this wouldnt get tiring to play even as 32 level megawad

>>4377895
I feel strange every time I see the original "Doomguy with coffee mug" picture, years and years ago I was the one who asked a drawfriend on /tg/ to make it, then it became popular.

I wish he signed it, bet him even moreso.

>>4377908

>>4378002

>>4378005

>playing going down with lithium
>beat map 20

fuck

>>4377378
meh

>>4377658

It's really nice to know what a song title is if I like the song.

>>4376203
Your hope and optimism is heartening, but no, we're still not close to done.
We have been working on it non-stop the past few days though, so here, have a picture.

>>4378082
Is that the JPCP HUD?
Is his BFG at least, somewhat done?

Has anybody tried the Doomzone mod?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/doomzone

He doesn't put it on Zdoom forums so I didn't even know it was fully playable until recently, though it hasn't got a guide on what classes do and have what.

>>4377895
Since this guy is requesting shit, does anyone have that gif of Doomguy going from neutral to his pickup grin with the smooth transition?

>>4378007

>>4378169

>>4378172

>>4378157

>>4378181

>>4378092
Yeah, english version of the JPCP hud.

The BFG has gone through two iterations already, scrapped the last one yesterday.
Mechanically it's not done at all, but we've got all the resources to put it back together in a better way.

>>4378184
wish I had a version of this that went from neutral to disgusted

>>4378186

>>4378196
And last one I got, some tumblr artist was inspired by two figurines on their desk resulting in this

>>4378194
two more and we could have bohemian rhapsody

>>4378196
Are those Mio's eyes?

>>4376154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzaPr51X3DQ

>>4378220
wrong game

>>4378217
Couldn't tell ya. Someone posted some transparent animu eyes, I decided I oughta paste them over Doomguy, can't tell ya anything past that.

>someone made a Mandalay Bay shooting simulator in brutal doom

O shit my sides

>>4378184
Thank you.

>>4378031
Have fun on Necropolis!

>Running with SmoothKetchup tanked my frames to single-digit

>>4378316
No I mean, you know how you lose your weapons after map 20? It's a big deal with lithium and know i think i can't play anymore

>>4378323
Ah, I feel ya. I still haven't tried any gameplay mods, so I figured Lithium just tuned the difficulty up.

I really ought to try some gameplay mods, but vanilla is still so damn good.

decide theme of my next map
>caverns & stone
>techbase & town
>guts & tech
>marble & blood
>wood & library
>metal & nukage

>>4378387
Guts and tech

>>4378387
Make a desert & rust techbase.

>>4378387

jungle and jungle

>>4378387
Ass and titties
Or just techbase and town.

>>4378387
pussy and ass

>>4378542
I like the way you think

>>4378542
ONE IN THE PINK
AND ONE IN THE STINK

>>4378542
OVER 20 lbs!

>>4378542

>>4378387
Name it "High impact sexual ultra violence"

>>4377884
That might be neat. Everyone makes a room, and the manager stitches them together.
# Rooms of /vr/

>>4378387
guts & tech

>>4376352
>>4376360
That hollow tree contains a rocket launcher and some ammo for it, which means you probably played this with the new Brutal Doom.

>>4377032
It has.

You're Earth's guardian angel.

>>4376878
>>4377529
I'm about to download the wad now. Should I be playing these with pistol start or is it okay to take the weapons found into the levels?

>>4378715
The maps were all designed in a vacuum, so pistol start is suggested.

>>4378715
Well, I know that at the very least map 22 (punching map) can become very easy if not played with a pistol start.

I want a doom mod done in the style of hado/fadocanslap

>>4378738
>>4378739
Okay then will do pistol starts when I play. I tested out the first level. Pretty good level I liked it.

Any traps in the community?

>>4378748
I'm sorry, we play video games here.

>>4378763
Yeah. Why?

>>4378782
wat

>>4378763
You might like map08.

>>4378748

That art style looks cool, would be interesting to see.
Foreverhood is the closest thing I can think of, but it's deader than dead right now.

>>4378823
They don't draw like that anymore, here's their latest drawing.

>>4376610
Every once in a while I evangelize for pistol starting. If you've never considered doing it before, I strongly recommend you give it a shot through your favorite IWAD. Maps designed for pistol start have an inherent drama to them: you're forced to pick your battles based on what you have at hand, creating tension when you have to cut and run, and a sense of release when you've got the gear to take the fight back to those enemies that once overwhelmed you. Secrets become godsends. The scarcity of high level weapons makes them feel powerful again when you finally do get your hands on one. All of those thrills are diluted when you can just carry over a shotgun with 50 shells or always have a rocket launcher ready when it gets a little too hot.

Try it. You won't regret it.

Are DOOM speedruns still only done with Chocolate DOOM?

I’m currently using ZDoom. Am I fucking up here? Should I be using GZDoom, or is there something even better than both?

>finish brutal doom
>new version gets immediately announced
What have I missed? I’ll need a break before starting all over again

>>4378841
the development of zdoom is discontinued, and the latest stable of it has a very early version of zscript

so yes, you probably should get gzdoom instead

>>4378841
ZDoom is discontinued. Use GZDoom if you want to play modern maps and mods. Use PRBoom+ if you want to have something closer to vanilla but still can play most modern maps. Use Chocolate if you want to play it like the old days, or Crispy if you want it only slightly newer than the old days.

>>4378841
Zdoom runs on toasters and works decently with a few mods, but development is dead, so don't expect anything new for it. Just use GZ for everything, and Boom or Chocolate if you want some vanilla-friendly WADS.

I remember playing simpsons doom back in the 90s. Did that mod ever get updated?
Are there any other mods based on animated tv shows?

>>4378798
>>4378819
I had it coming.

What are some good mods for Co-op? My friend was asking me earlier and I couldn't give him a concrete answer.

>>4378928
Mods or mapsets?

>>4378872
south park doom ain't bad

>>4378935
More priority on mods than mapsets.

Both to be used together, if possible.

>>4377105
Like in DoomRL?

>>4378169
>>4378172
Is there a revenant version of that Big Enough AHHHHH meme yet?

>>4378839
Not really. Most people use PRBoom+ or a Choco fork called Competition Doom last time I checked.

Why have so many UV Speed WRs gone unbroken for so long?

>>4378662
No I didn't dumbfuck, I only loaded the files in the Halloween folder.

give me a saraismap to pull out of my ass in less than 5 mins.

>>4378839
>>4378998
Not him but what other rules are there? Is mouse allowed or do you have to run that shit with keyboard only?

I just couldn't imagine running the game keyboard only.

>>4379024
Jesus Christ, calm your tits. I only said that because the rocket launcher shows up on my side, and a common reported bug in the newest version of Brutal Doom is the rocket launcher not showing up when playing on Purist mode. No idea why that happened to you.

There's a lot you can do with an invulnerabilitysphere and a chainsaw.

>>4379171
Totally not a trap.

>>4379175
There's also a lot you can do with a berserk pack and a bayonet.

>>4378841
(G)zdoom is great If you want to play anything other than doom.

>>4379291
Nah, it's great for Doom.

Who's the best doom modder? Who's your favorite? Are they the same person?

Hey is there by chance a glitch in vanilla DOOM where enemies resurrected by archviles can become immortal? Because I pumped about ten SSG blasts into a shotgunner on MAP11 of TNT and he wouldn't die.

>>4379362
TerminusEst13 and Enjay

>>4379362
>Who's the best doom modder?
Objectively ijon tichy
>Who's your favorite?
TerminusEst13 or Marty Kirra. Kegan close runnerup.
Kinsie worst modder and meme peddler 2008-2018

>>4379373
Yes, there is a bug where they take on the property of the gib and have a really small hitbox that cannot be aimed at. Rockets can still damage them.

>>4379362
me
me
yeah

>>4379386
Good to know, that bug killed a pretty good run of the map (by my standards because I'm terrible at DOOM). I'll definitely use rockets if it happens again. I feel pretty bad at how slow I've been progressing through these maps, TNT is definitely a lot harder than the original two games due to all the hitscan.

>>4379386
>Objectively ijon tichy
Good choice. What makes him the objectively best?
>>4379389
What have you done that's so great?

>>4379401
I made doom

>>4379362
Marrub deserves a mention for those sexy menus in Lithium

>>4379403
Tom Hall? Cool!

>>4379407
>Marrub deserves a mention for those sexy menus in Lithium
Up there on my list too. I don't think he's done anything Doom-wise in months to a year maybe. Not sure what he's up to.

>>4379412
He last released an update back in September

>>4378839
zeromasters runs from the past six months have been done on crispy doom

>>4376158
[11-05] Crispy Doom 5.0 released: now switched to SDL2
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1814593

Early version of the berserk fists, as I go on with these the plan is primary will throw jabs really fast and then you throw a massive haymaker, and secondary will lunge you forward to throw an instant haymaker if you bump into something

>>4379043
Anyone? Too much time; not enough to do with it.

>>4379517
nobody wants another one of your horrible maps

>>4379362
Well then...
How about this:
Who's the sexiest doom modder? Who's the cutest?

>>4379527
Me and me

>>4379490

>>4379527
Hdoomguy, Sergeant MK4.

>>4379362
The duderino that did GMOTA and some other mod/s. His mods are definition of fun mechanics.

>>4379527
>Who's the cutest?
88alice obviously. listen to her moe'ing it up on terminus's streams

>>4378672
Sounds about right.

>>4378945
mods: jumpmaze, samsara

mapsets: slaughterfest 2012, newgothic movement

Just beat Doom II for the first time. Only a few years late.

>>4379641
gg

>>4379536
Working on the lifedrain effects and a powerful hook you throw after throwing a set number of punches.

>>4378217
yeah they are, you can tell because of the three lines below her left eye, it's from the don't say lazy video. that was the first thing i thought of

>>4379641
Better late than never.
So - what you think of it?
Do you think that doom 1 had better level design?

>>4379536
>>4379657
can't decide if ATATATATATATA or turning the pedals on an invisible bike

>>4379657
These look very weightless

>>4379646
gg

>>4379662
Yeah Doom 1 feels like the 'tighter' game, but 2 is more creative. Sometimes I got kinda sick of the enemy count on UV though.

Wondering what I should do next. I guess vanilla plutonia?

>>4379669
Yeah sadly I can't have really fast punches be heavy.
and I want really fast punches for the primary.

>>4379672
>Wondering what I should do next.
Masturbate
Or check out some mapsets.
And speaking of - did you play it vanilla or did you use some more modern sourceport features (like freelook and stuff)?

>>4379657

Where do you upload your weapons? Are they on Realm667?

>>4379678
> making standalone weapons

>>4379676
I used GZdoom with jump, crouch and freelook turned off.

Might try using smoothdoom for the things I do next.

>>4379527
>Who's the cutest?
I don't know what anyone looks like, but personality-wise I think Captain J is the cutest.

>>4379679

So what mod are they for?

>>4379679
We actually need more people making standalone weapons as resources for Realm667, I use them all the time.

>>4379684
how
he just doesn't into english

>>4379686
GMOTA.

>>4379689
I don't know. He just seems so happy and positive and cute.

>>4379669
>>4379675
Nope fuck it I changed my mind, I've slowed the jabs down and made them BURLY.
Now the fists feel crunchy.
This is why I listen to feedback and why I value your guys' input so much

>>4379715
yes
that's better

>>4379715
Ooh, could you do that thing Nocturne in Yellow does with the spear where you get a different animation if you hit?

>>4379675
You could add some knockback and knockup, maybe screenshake, and maybe make the punches follow-through a bit more, tho it might look weird to have the next punch being tossed out while it's still following through, idk. I'm imagining it sorta looking like someone using a boxing speed ball

>>4379717
I was thinking about that, but I also want to keep the jabs fluid, they've gotten slower already, any slower and you're liable to catch a mace to the face while you punch things.

>>4379718
Did this fix it? >>4379715

>>4379715
Oh yeah, that looks much better. I bet a small screen shake when a punch lands would be cool too

>>4379723
There actually IS some screenshake on hit, it's just hard to notice in the webms.

>>4379724
Ah, suppose we'll have to wait for the real deal, cuz yeah it's imperceptible in the webm

>install fall creators update
>get this

>>4379749

nevermind, I had to install dx 9.0c

>>4379527
>cutest
Yholl all day everyday.

Damn, doom 64 is so atmospheric. I can tell it would have spooked the shit out of me as a kid. The moody lighting and low key music.

What mods have a similar effect?

Anyone happen to have an older version of Smooth Doom laying around?

I downloaded the latest version and it has some issues with green and blue blood for me, and unfortunately I didn't keep the old version on hand and can't seem to to find any downloads for it.

Cheers.

>>4378836
I don't really like Doom

>golem
I thought they were mummies.

Hey guys, Mac user here, I've never played any Doom mods, nor have I played the original doom, but recently my interest has been peaked, I want to try out Blood and that new castlevania mod,

I bought Ultimate Doom off GOG and downloaded GZDoom, but what kind of extractor do I use to get the WAD out of my Doom.exe file?

>>4379990
Look up for doom.wad in GoG's Doom folder.

>>4379990
Just copy and paste doom.wad and DOOM2.wad into your GZDoom folder.
And if you want to stack few mods at the same time look up the ZDL launcher - it let's you manage multiple files and sourceports easily.

I need suggestions for map packs to get, preferably good. Ive played:
> ancient aliens, kdizd, memento mori1&2, final doom, plutonia2, btsx
> 1024 series

needs to work with smooth doom

>>4376868
>You are the only one to ever take that screencap

>>4379847
https://www.mediafire.com/download/6rxovbr6iz894j0

>>4380085
Thanks brah, no more red mixin with blue or green

>>4380072
Umm... yes?
That's literally the pic I posted several times in Spetember with the words "Hitler Ahegao!"

Alright, got GZdoom working and a whole day to do anything I want, any Mods that you guys suggest?

I like games that are fast and require knowledge of maps/memorization.

>>4380139
Figure out the latest version of this, play it. http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/dakka/

>>4379962
The same pistol start argument applies to most retro FPS, like Duke, Quake, Shadow Warrior, and Blood my favorite.

>>4379053
No real control requirements; use what you're comfortable with. Traditionally, most runners record a demo through the program, but it's not really necessary these days (especially since you can't do that if you're running GZDoom WADs and the like).

>>4380196
>Duke
Some levels play fine with pistol start, but some are just a meatgrinder.

>>4376158
[11-05] Doom2 UV-speed in 18:45 by eLim
https://youtu.be/6xdr3MeGdME

"This is payback for Zero-Master beating my 30nm by 1 second previously! :P"

>>4376158
[11-06] Doom2 UV-speed in 18:45 by eLim
https://youtu.be/6xdr3MeGdME

"This is payback for Zero-Master beating my 30nm by 1 second previously! :P"

>>4377719
>>4377792
Seconding this recommendation. I don't know how I can go back to anything else after playing this shit. Every weapon is so fun and satisfying.

>>4380316
I still can't unsee that fucking chaingunner in the background...
And the pizza sun

>>4380139
BTSX E1 is a safe bet for a good mapset. As is Scythe and Scythe 2.

For gameplay mods there's a lot of different styles to choose from and I'm not sure which would fit a new guy the best.

I'm interested in making textures, but I've having trouble deciding what I should make. Are there any types of terrain that aren't adequately covered by existing texture packs?

>>4380347
A dirt floor covered in bleached bones, ribs and skulls, all partially buried?

>>4380347
meat curtains

>>4380309
>"This is payback for Zero-Master beating my 30nm by 1 second previously! :P"

this quote is from doomworld, for those wondering

>>4380403
oh yes sorry i should have said.

>>4380072
>>4380124

I spent all day playing doom and now I have the most radical headache

>>4380440
cowabunga

>>4379715
>This is why I listen to feedback and why I value your guys' input so much
it's glad that we have someone that does that, instead of throwing a fit on twitter and his private discord about how we're so mean to him

>>4380139
look at the So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom in the OP

>>4379401
>What makes him the objectively best?
He has made a shit ton of code that got used by lots of modders, and done lots related to netplay. I think he even did some zand engine code.

>>4379990
>I bought Ultimate Doom off GOG

No reason to give your money to bethesda/zenimax when id released their source cod for the games ages ago. I have been interested in playing Blood as well since I just recently finished Duke Nukem 3D.

>>4380472
Something tells me that nowadays he's just doing it to look cool.

>>4380483
>and done lots related to netplay. I think he even did some zand engine code.
ijon's cool but this is incorrect

>>4379980
Thought that as a kid. Cant not see it

>When you put effort into a map and no one says anything about it or gives you feedback

This is hell.

>>4380472
i didn't know sarais had a twitter

>>4380512
I know this feel, anon.
I know it all too well...

>MetaDoom GL's grenades come from Duke 64
Never noticed it until now

>>4380507

That's what their actor name is, so.

Help a brainlet. I tried to insall Quake II with yamagi but the tutorial says that, after copying the 3.20 patch, delete some files including quake2.exe. How am I supposed to boot up the game if yamagi doesn't come with an executable?

>>4376415
>but is a huge leap in difficulty from the first 3 maps.
everything he makes is unnecessarily painful and difficult, shame

>>4380347
Realistic industrial and urban textures. Nice concrete and such.

>>4380440
I drew blood while modding last week. Foot fell asleep while deep into zscript and I didn't notice, so when I got up I fell and banged my wrist hard into a stainless steel sofa leg.

>>4380619
>>4380440

This sounds like a dangerous game, should be banned.

>>4380347
You can always make computers/machinery and flesh/bone textures that look unique.

>>4380658

>>4380039
No suggestions really?

>>4379524
>>4379517
>>4379043

kissu my assu

>>4380684
UAC Ultra

>>4380684
Going Down

>>4380039
DTWID
D2TWID
Going Down
Vae Victus 1+2
BTSX ep2
Valiant
Nihility
Vela Pax
ScytheX

>>4376610
I never play pistol start (partially because I don't know how, but mainly because I'm a metroidfag and love progression) and given the massive sprawling killfest WADs that are typical these days i give myself rules on when im allowed to save instead of forgoing them entirely. Every 100 kills or every keycard, usually. If the maps dont support those rules well i go by secrets. I just dont have the time to completely master every level in every WAD these days, and playing on anything less than UV feels less satisfying than taking saves.

>>4380039
>>4380691
>>4380703
>>4380710
these work with smooth doom?

> I dont want any custom weapons or half assed bullet casings, which I turn off anyway

>>4380684
have you looked at the So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom image?

>>4380743
BTSX needs a further compatibility patch to work with it because it uses a custom palette. But it's well worth it.

>>4380746
yeah but I grabbed most of what I wanted from there

>>4380751
where can I find that?

>>4379389
Hi Sgt. Mark IV

>>4380813
support me on patreon thanks in advance
X.LX.L

When Ranger gets hiccups, he goes HUH

>>4380740
I should impose some rules onto myself like that, I save way too often to the point of savescumming.

>>4380907
when BJ nuts and anya keeps on sucking he goes [brown noise]

>>4380710
>ScytheX

Has this been completed yet or is it meant to only be 10 or so levels?

>>4380920
kek.

>>4381012
shrug, the guy did two episodes then disappeared again. that was ~10 years ago.

>>4376154
I wonder how /v/ would have received Doom II as a sequel upon release?
Would they have shit on it for using same assets, with no new modes or innovative gameplay mechanics?

>>4381143
>Would /v/ have shit on it
Yes, regardless of what "it" is

>>4381179
You know - "IT". The game they made one map for that one time.

Oh wait, no... That was /pol/
Shit... it's easy to mix them up.

>>4376154
GARGLL-L-L

>>4381143
>Would they have shit on it for using same assets, with no new modes or innovative gameplay mechanics?

Make a wild fucking guess.

>>4381143

How does /v/ receive games it hasn't played, anon?

>>4381143
they'll circlejerk about the lore & complain about the following:
>muh graphix
>muh locked 30 fps
>ur multiplayer avatar is a shit
>the gameplay
then they'll either resort to posting THICC demon pron or tell everybody to kill themselves. you know, the yuge

>>4381219
>BLUNDER OF THE YEAR!!!
seems about their speed.

>>4381236
30 hours of cutscenes!
30 minutes of gameplay!
QTEs and SJW propaganda!
And after few days all doom-related threads would get deleted.

>>4379980
The actor name is still mummy so you're not entirely wrong.

They could potentially be mummies that were resurrected as golems?

>>4380512
What map? I'll play it and give feedback.

hopefully this becomes the new OP pic.

Quake but Cthulu and Nyaralat Hotep are added in, and the Outer Gods are secret bosses.

Literally nobody ever asked for or wanted this, but here we go anyway.

>>4381449
what mapset?

>>4381375
NYAR
lol good luck dodging all the instakill portals, while dodging the monster spawns
> and Nyar just disintegrates you as an archvile attack
> and even if you survive somehow
> you find out Nyar cant actually be killed, it just turns into something else

>>4381459

Harmony, an iwad.
http://rabotik.nl/harmony.htm

Where do I go for the DOOM speedrunning authority?

>>4381462
>>4381459
>>4381449

> use Harmony as your iwad
> recreate plutonia as a pwad, replacing all the maps, episodes, and graphics
> its completely free

>>4381375
>>4381461
unfortunately unlike other eldritch deities and various monster overlords that might gloat or leave themselves open to attack, nyarlathothep was known for his intelligence and was well, god-tier when it came to that
> chooses to fight the player on the first map
> there's no weapons or ammo on the map, he removed all of them
> makes the player an offer instead, interprets "no" to mean yes in a very obtuse legalistic manner and transforms the player into a box of condoms so he will be used by women for sex

>>4381487
>implying Ranger needs weapons to kill an Old One

>>4381471

It'd be appropriate, Harmony seems to be even more fond of chaingunners as Plutonia is, with even more bastardly placement.

>>4381543
here's a palette if anyone wants to do this crazy thing, it should serve a doom conversion very well (from the bottom up that is, it is not compatible with existing gfx at all but has a bunch of extra color ranges added)

>>4381219
/v/ doesn't play games. They just parrot reviews.

When I'm Playing the current Dakka what does the flashing blue do?

>>4381143
the same way that they do with every game
"What went wrong?"
"Blunder of the year"
moving sale goalposts and saying that DOOM 2 was a failure compared to the first, without citing sources
threads that say something like "John Carmack, more like John Cuckmack"
a few wojack threads that use it to falseflag that X as a platform is shit
a few cherry picked screenshots that show how ugly it is compared to another game released around the same time
people saying that they are gonna pirate it even though its bad
very little actual discussion of the game, that quickly gets archived because of the mountain of low quality shitposts that makes it reach page 11 in 7 minutes
/v/ is one of the worst boards

>tfw too stupid to make a script like this to test it
I'm trying to see if it would be POSSIBLE to imitate (even poorly) a vanilla start.
What I mean is go in the pattern of starting a demo playing in background after the initial doom title sequence.
Since demos don't work with ZDoom I was wondering if it would be possible to spawn a bot in the levels recorded and take perspective of it.
Would this be possible or am I just being stupid for something impossible at the moment.

>>4377440
I kinda wish there's a consumable/usable "blueprint/sewing kit" that bestows you with a random suit if the tattered fabric you are currently wearing is at least a hundred points or more; she's a tailor after all, is she not.

What's this .ipk3 format I've been seeing floating around for GZDoom mods lately?

>>4381906
IWAD file in PK3 format

so when is cowboy meme in HND?

does he ever stop squirming ?

>>4381947
no, well, not unless you're pklaying a mod that mkaes him shootable.

>>4376743
Back to >>>/v/

>>4381958
poor guy

>>4381982
yeah. but it reminds you why you're fighting, and what you're fighting for.

>>4381889

Fuck it, those shadow warrior jabs just aren't as good as the haymaker, so now you just throw haymakers, altfire slings you sword out for a quietus style attack for ranged attacks because the thought of not being able to beat up things out of range when berserking upsets me.

>>4379641
Decided to play No Rest For The Living next. Seems excellent. Making me realise how much I actually disliked Doom 2's levels.

>>4382109
NuDoomGuy doesn't take shit from skeletons

>>4382109
it looks like the sword is throwing your own blood. so maybe it should cost like 5% health?

>>4382235
I thought about that, but the berserk ability is supposed to be a clutch tool to stop players from dying, I'm not sure if it'd be a good idea to drain health for the alt attack. It would make for a neat little tug of war between the primary attack seeing as that gives life on hit.
Gotta remember that you won't be able to select this weapon whenever you want, you'll have to build up energy by dealing damage to enemies and then triggering this state for a short time.

Have you cleaned your room?

>>4380619
sometimes u just gotta pour loads of effort into zscript, and to successfully do so for some, u *must* distract yourself with physical pain to trudge through the journey that is working with zscript (especially as a novice at acs or decorate)

>>4382397
I have! I cleaned my room a few days ago.

>Grew up on console gaming
>Decide to finally give DOOM a try
>Get motion sickness really fast
>"Maybe I'll get used to it"
>Cold sweat
>Wanna DOOM
>Throw up
>Give up

Some things were just not meant to be..

>>4382450
>grow up on console
>eventually play pc years later
>never have motion sickness problems ever

maybe ur just a pussy anon

>>4382450
1. Turn off weapon sway
2. Change camera bobbing
3. Increase your FOV
4. Turn off autorun
5. Play on hardware rendering mode to avoid this weird warping effect when looking up and down.
6. git gud

Hope this helps.
Maybe with settings like that you won't get motion sick.
Good luck, anon.

>>4382450
>Grow up on Doom
>decide to give console games a try
>can't pass second boss of Streets of Rage 2
>watch entire series in youtube.

>>4382493
my thumbs have evolved specifically to firmly grip things and press spacebar/mouse side button
and nothing else
they get very confused when more than one button is involved

>>4382397

Alright, what even is this? A fap mod for a game that requires both hands?

>>4382531
it's a bit on the risque side, but, it is a legit gameplay mod too

>>4382531
Doom can be played with only one hand easily.

>>4382491
Thanks for the advice.

Sadly I really like camera bobbing because I like to imagine doom guy waving around his body like a psychopath doing a dempsey roll while shooting wildly.

Anybody got any good 1 level maps to suggest?

Feeling like a quick romp.
If you're making a map I'll test it for you provided it's got some size.

>>4382626
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97833-happy-birthday-csonicgo/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97848-recurring-nightmare/
these were both cool, although on the hard side

>>4382626
I just played this
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=58383
It's pretty cool - you can finish it in around 10 minutes.

In A.D. 2017, war BD vs PB was beginning. (get ready to eat that popcorn, lads)

>>4382641
why would i care about the reddit mod and an extension there of

>>4382634
>>4382635
Thanks guys.

>>4382641
What?
What's going on?
I hope this "war" will result in casualties on both sides.

>>4382661
HINT: muh test builds

>>4382680
just post the link you fucker

>>4382707
not him but i hear that mark got all pissy about the dev builds.i have no idea myself and that might just be rumor

>>4382725
>NDA for a mod

>>4382725
>NDA for a mod

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>4382725

>>4382725
>>4382732
>>4382736
what's an NDA?
i'm a bit of a dummy

>>4382725
thanks. yeah i can guess what's happened, because it happened before, when he used to post beta builds of v20(?) here, he stopped because the mods of mods were incorporating v20 stuff even before v20 was out

i think it's fair enough to ask others not to base work off the beta builds but to wait until the final is out.

>>4382739
non disclosure agreement. basically a legal contract that says you can't talk about it to anyone

>>4382725
my fucking lord

>>4382739
Non-Disclosure Agreement aka you agree to sign a paper that cockblocks you from talking about a game, common thing that journalists and voice actors must sign in the industry

>>4382725
>NDA for a mod
And of course it had to be for Brootal dewm's even more retarded cousin.

>>4382739
Non-Disclosure Agreement

>>4382707
I can't. because PB's Discord is currently nuked. But I'll hand out a quick summary before the said demise happened:
An announcement was made in the PB Discord that handouts for subsequent test builds now require being acknowledged as an official bug tester of sorts. Chimpout ensues, the highlight with the PB dev saying that they went for that decision in order to avoid (alleged) flak from Markymark and the BD "community".

>>4382745
>>4382748
>>4382749
jesus

i doubt he means an actual legal contract literally with lawyers and all that, you clowns.

this all reads like the introductory passages to a religious cult.

you can't make this shit up.

>>4382761
we're aware, retard.

it's just the sudden seriousness to it that is so amusing.

>>4382763
i'd get serious too if the alternative was being swamped by a horde of thousands of brutal doom sycophants which mark sicced onto me

This whole mess is the best instance of monster infighting i've ever seen.

Pic kinda related...

Can someone clear up some confusion for me? What is the name of ZDoom's creator? Half of the time I see it credited to Marisa Heit, the other half, to Randy Heit.

>>4382725
what will most likely happen is someone uploading it somewhere out of spite, I doubt they would watermark that shit

he probably wants PB to be ready for when BD21 final comes out, which means he needs to start merging it now, and that work will need testing. but he knows mark doesn't like people basing work off beta versions, so out of respect he wants to keep a lid on it. everyone knows what an NDA so that's how he's phrased it, like as an analogy.

he could have just said "okay i need to keep a lid on this until bd21 is out, so i only want testers of good standing who i trust will not leak it" instead of using a legal term, but maybe others wouldn't take that so seriously themselves.

>>4382786
(apparently former) Randy is transsexual.

>>4382786
When he started, he was named Randy. A few years he changed his zdoom forums name to Randi. Most recently, he was calling himself Marisa.

So basically if you want to be respectful towards a sufferer of gender disphoria, then it's Marisa. But if you think he's a mentally ill tranny, continue to use Randy.

>>4382531
>>4382537
>>4382540

All these are correct

>>4382797
>>4382808
Finally, this answer my question about traps in the community!

>>4378672
>>4379546

>>4382826
traps and trans isn't the same, though

this is totally in good faith, nothing wrong here

>>4382840
Eh, close enough for the purposes of my, ahem, research.

>>4382780
I love how they look like little kids with a Doomguy costume, so silly.

>>4382826
The 3DGE dev is one too. I personally don't think we ought to talk shit (which hasn't happened ITT yet but probably will) about either out of respect for their contributions to the community.

On another note: What are some guns you guys have never or rarely seen in a game but would like to?

https://youtu.be/RwhYKTVIgG0

>>4382865
>The 3DGE dev is one too. I personally don't think we ought to talk shit (which hasn't happened ITT yet but probably will) about either out of respect for their contributions to the community.
To be fair, my interest in this topic is less about shitting on them, and more about you know what. But it's still offtopic so I'll stop now.

>On another note: What are some guns you guys have never or rarely seen in a game but would like to?
KS-23, full stop. I could even give money to whoever brings this beauty into Doom. The closest thing to how I imagine it depicted in Doom would probably be the project MSX nailshotgun.

>>4379672
Plutonia is my favourite mapset for me. Its quintessential doom imo. Small levels that i think have a lot to them. If you can get over the higher population of revs and chaingunners you will find a beautiful solid and brutal world in plutonia.

You havent played doom yet.

Also tnt is lots of fun.

>>4382876
>KS-23
You know, I've been thinking a long time about what the shotgun should end up being in my mod and that's been a strong contender. A HK69 with a servo-controlled with 40mm buckshot shells (a thing that actually exists) is another

Both go really well with the multiple ammo types system I'm using and have an actual reason for a steep damage falloff.

servo-controlled choke*

>>4382894
Sounds neat. What kinds of ammo would you include for the KS-23 and the HK69?

>>4382725
>>4382794
So would be better if he used the " symbol, to siginfy that's not really a legal thing
So "NDA" instead of just NDA

>>4382797
>>4382808

I figured that's what it was, but I didn't know which way the transition went.

>>4382918
I'm doing either/or, not both. Or something else entirely.

If I go with ks23 then buckshot and high pressure slugs. Maybe a delayed fuse HE-AP slug that penetrates then gibs from the inside. If the grenade launcher route then buckshot, HE, white phosphorous incendiary and perhaps some kinda plasma grenade. Or if you have some idea yourself I'd consider it because of the minimal work needed for each ammo type.

>>4382876
>>4382894
meh ive got a theory that the shotguns native to doom are already firing 8 gauge shells

It might spit out 7 pellets and thus cause 7 bleeding holes but its doing as much damage apiece as the pistol and chaingun (which are probably firing AP rounds since they can get through the zombie body armor).

Also 7 pellets is an unusual number for twelve gauge to fire, even with quadruple ought buckshot you still get 8. Im suggesting that the standard doom shotgun ammo is 8 Gauge firing seven .45cal or .50cal buckshot pellets.

Also consider hard statistics, it takes at least 15 rounds of AP ammo to take down a pinky demon... but it only takes 2 shotgun blasts to do it (assuming ssg). And a direct hit from a rocket barely does more than the amount of damage an ssg causes.

>>4382896
>>4382918
If he wants Spread then just have a spreader choke on the end of it. Though the doom shotgun is implied to have one already (including on beta screenshots).

if you're going with multiple ammo types for the 40mm may I suggest that the usual explosive kind is on the belt feed, and to fire alternate ammo the player goes through a loading animation to insert one round of the buckshot and then fire it (this way they can do that, but its tedious and not what the weapon is designed for).

It would have to be a high pressure load just like an auto-launcher would use, otherwise the buckshot wouldn't be worth a shit.

> decreasing damage over distance for shotgun hitscans doesnt seem to be possible but I did just get the idea of being able to alter the damage stat of a projectile as time goes on
> however now scenery objects will stop the shots unlike hitscans

>>4382937
>it takes at least 15 rounds of AP ammo to take down a pinky demon... but it only takes 2 shotgun blasts to do it (assuming ssg)
>demons require 2 ssg shots
???

>>4382935
>high pressure slugs
Barrikada!

>>4382937
>>4382941
>>4382942
Just remember the SSG is shooting out more pellets than 1 shotgun blast, despite taking only two shells.

We're more about gameplay over realism, buuut I know what you mean and I get obsessed on this shit too. I'd say give the gun a knockback effect on the enemies but some might find it obnoxious, perhaps a guaranteed flinch?

>>4382949
how is his aim so bad that he thinks pinkys need two super shotgun firings?

>>4382941
>>4382958
>but it only takes 2 shotgun blasts to do it
>2 shotgun shells
> about 50% of the time the shotgun needs 3 shells to do it, but assuming that you're using the ssg it will only take a single attack, thus only 2 shells

saved some word count for you by condensing it from this, not my fault you didnt have the intelligence to figure that out

>>4382978
>explain something retardedly
>hurr you're too stupid to understand
Fuck off back to /v/, cunt.

>>4382983
m8....chill

>>4382937
>if you're going with multiple ammo types for the 40mm may I suggest that the usual explosive kind is on the belt feed
A HK 69 is a single-shot launcher.
Changing ammunition would play the normal reload animation except the inserted shell would of course match the selected ammo type.

>We're more about gameplay over realism, buuut I know what you mean and I get obsessed on this shit too. I'd say give the gun a knockback effect on the enemies but some might find it obnoxious, perhaps a guaranteed flinch?
Haven't gotten that far, but each weapon/attack will have its own pain chance modifier. No knockback on enemies except for grenades, but powerful single shot weapons will have more knockback on the player.

Anyway the planned weapon lineup for now is something like

>semi auto pistol
>machine pistol
>combined shotgun/grenade weapon
>crude assault rifle
>fancy schmancy assault rifle with scope
>plasma gun (projectiles, full auto large magazine)
>particle accelerator (penetrating beam with damage falloff by distance)
>futuristic carl gustaf recoilless rifle
>railgun

Then a bunch of throwables and deployables. BFG equivalents live here as deployable gravitational singularities and orbital strike beacons or whatever.

>>4383020
>futuristic carl gustaf recoilless rifle
Jesus Christ I want this.

>>4383068
I want firing it to feel like it fucking hurts.

>>4383095
> recoilless
> implying it has any recoil to hurt you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cU5kImkRw
That ending was awkward as hell.
I thought Mike had become tamer as of late after the whole scandal about his fake accounts and shady online bullshit to the point of suspection of spamming on /vr/ to kill threads that badmouthed him.
But I digress, what the fuck, this actually looks good but the hitboxes are all fucked.

>>4383098
No, but shooting one supposedly feels like being kicked in the everything all at once. Because of the violent overpressure and noise from both sides of the tube of course. There are restrictions for how many training shots a soldier is allowed to fire in a day due to health concerns.

>>4383095
>>4383098
>>4383112
Also keep your mouth open or else EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4382876
>To be fair, my interest in this topic is less about shitting on them, and more about you know what.
No, I don't know what.

But I have a feeling whatever it is, it's going to guarantee that I call you a dumbass for your dumbassery.