/vr/ - Retro Games

N64 has Mario 64, so it automatically wins. Crash shouldn't count on the Playstation, either.

>>4382653
I found Croc and Crash 3 more fun than any N64 platformer but honestly Conker's Bad Fur Day holds the biggest spot in my heart imaginable and is a highly important game to me

>>4382667
Even though Crash does have plenty of side-scrolling sections, I still feel it should count, as at least half of each game is played in 3rd person.

N64 was practically built to run 3D platformers

Also I'm still mad that Sony wanted to push the 3D technology on PS1 so hard when 2D games were just getting good.

>>4382679
I see where you're coming from, but it 's the same kind of deal as Kirby 64 and Klonoa in my opinion. While you're often playing from behind in Crash, you can't really explore, you're just platforming down a path; while not exactly like a "2.5D" game, the end result is similar.

Pac-Man World is the best ps1 3D platformer followed by Ape Escape.

>>4382685
I considered leaving Crash out of the picture, but figured people would question its absence. I suppose something like 40 Winks or Pac-Man World could fill the spot.

N64 easily.

>>4382653
Updated pic to remind people of the multiplatform games, though they're not particularly relevant to the discussion.

>>4382653
Sega Saturn

>Crash bandicoot
>not Hugo
You fucked up OP

>>4382752
You should replace Bubsy 3D with Pac-Man World and add Mystical Ninja 64 to the n64 side.
Also Bugs Lost In Time/Time Busters are solid platformers for the ps1.

>>4382769
Suggestions noted, will update.

>>4382771
Add Castlevania 64 to the PSX's lineup, probably my most beloved game of that generation

>>4382778
>CV64
>to the PSX's lineup

>>4382771
Bomberman Hero is also a decent platformer for the n64, Same for Duck Dodgers 64 and Space Station Sillicon Valley.
Tonic Trouble is alright for what it is, should add it to multiplatform, but i think the pc version can't be played on modern systems, so there's the n64 version which is okay.
Shadow Man should also be added to multiplatform, but I should say the ps1 version of the game should be avoided.
Stuart Little 2 on ps1 is also a nice little game.

>>4382778
>Castlevania 64
It's not even a platformer.

>>4382801
And adding to ps1 platformers, Sheep Raider is fantastic.
I also really like The Grinch, might add that the ps1 version is the best version.

>>4382806
>Castlevania
>Not a platformer

>>4382806
Some of the levels are platforming-based (Castle wall, Tower of Sorcery, Clock Tower).
In fact, these levels are the closest we ever got to get actual classic Castlevania on 3D.

>>4382814
>Hasn't played Castlevania 64
It's a shit game anyways.

>>4382829
Explain how it's not a platformer. Also hating on it is a meme the AVGN came up with because he can't stand CV games being good, why do you think he was so assblasted about SOTN "ruining" the series?

>>4382841
It's an action-adventure game. Same goes for Shadow Man, which >>4382801 mentioned earlier. Just because a game has a jump button doesn't mean it's a platformer.

>>4382653
Need to put MML1&2 on the Playstation side.

>>4382871
>Platformers

Too lazy to update the pic more right now, might continue tomorrow. Less focus on the pic, more conversation about the games, please.

>>4382653
DONT FORGET
PS1 3D PLATFORMERS: Floating Runner, Team Buddies, Tail of the Sun, Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Megaman Legends 2, Mort the Chicken, Chicken Run, 40 Winks, Tail Concerto, Kingsleys Adventure, Medieval, Medieval II, Phix The Adventure...

^and those are just the "kiddy" looking ones. That's fourteen platforms. Name 7 others for the N64 other than the ones listed in the picture.

>>4382975
Out of all those, only Mort the Chicken, 40 Winks and Phix: The Adventure are 3D platformers.

>>4382975
>Name 7 others for the N64 other than the ones listed in the picture.
people have already mentioned other platformers for N64 not on OP's picture. Like Mystical Ninja, Bomberman, Castlevania, Buck Bumble, and there's the japan-only Doraemon 1, 2 and 3.

>>4382997
floating runner is also a 3D platformer, but it isn't very good. Still has a kind of charming "early 3D" surreal vibe.

>>4383006
My mistake. I've always thought it was only a simple shooter without a jump-function.

N64... you can give up now. No Contest. Seriously, somebody see if you can match the shear quantity of PS1 platformers.

>>4383013
Dude what? Some of those aren't even platformers.

>>4383000
BWAHHAHAHAH I WAS JUST SHITPOSTING ABOUT CV64 YOU DUMB FUCK, I EVEN CALLED IT A PSX GAME!

>>4383000
>Buck Bumble
>Platformer

>>4383018
sorry, maybe i was confused about what a 3d paltformer is.

Im assuming chicken run is more stealth 3D action, Tail of the Sun is 3D action role playing, team buddies is 3d action, and Medieval is more puzzle 3d action. Somebody wanna clear up exactly what a 3d platforming game is? does it need suspended platforms and jumping or something??

>>4383013
>floating runner
>phix
Legit fuckawful unplayable shitty games and I'm a huge PSX fanboy.

>>4383024
Calm down, even if you're trolling, CV64 has platforming elements.
People are listing stuff like Medievil and Megaman Legends as platformers so whatever. You can jump and it's on 3D space.

>>4383058
I was playing the retard card to bait and see Nintendrones jump on the CV64 bandwagon (which of course they did because N64fags are desperate as hell)

People listing games like MML2 on the other hand are genuinely retarded. Unless they're doing a "by your logic" thing IDK, I'm not really paying attention to this thread lol

>>4383013
>all those kiddy games
is it a real list, or is it a fucking nostalgia ps-boi list ?
plz try

PS! also has Jersey Devil and Rascal

>>4383060
most of these are games i currently play. i don't go on nostalgia trips since i didn't even start getting into the PS1 until college. aint got no nostalgia in me desu

>>4383059
>Nintendrones
>N64fags
At this point I don't know if you're a false-flagging PS1 fan or what, but no, I like both systems, but don't have a huge preference for either, 5th gen is not my favorite gen.
Also, what "bandwagon" would I jump? CV64 does have platforming levels. Some other levels are more exploration-based, but there are others that are 100% linear platforming level, where most of the challenge comes from not falling off than anything else. That's platforming to me.
I don't remember any instances on MM Legends 1 or 2 when you die by falling off a cliff. The game doesn't even let you fall and die to the abyss, there's an invisible barrier on ledges.

>>4383059
>>4383058
3D environments. Movement on the plane with jumping = 3D platform, am I right?

>>4383069
I meant false-flagging N64 fan*, like you seem like you want to make "Ps1 fanboys" look bad.

>>4383069
I ain't reading that long ass post nigga

I wanted to see if people would actually lump CV64 into this thread as a good platformer, and I got my laugh. If somebody is actually saying MML2 counts as a platformer they're pretty stupid themselves though

>>4383082
I think this thread is more about posting quantity, not quality.
See: >>4383013
>I don't care but I keep posting lol
You seem smart, friend.

>>4383084
>Which one had better 3D platformers?
>Quantity not quality

Also when did I say I don't care? Read mofo, read. Shouldn't you be in school right now? Pretty sure you should be taking your 2nd grade English classes instead of posting on 4chan.

>>4383085
OP posted Bubsy 3D, he didn't give a fuck about quality.

>>4383082
Are you implying that CV64 is a bad game?

>>4383089
For completion's sake most likely

>>4383084
This thread is about quality. Did you even read the OP?

>>4383094
How are we going to come to a consensus about quality?
With reviews and scores the game got back then? What if the reviewers were biased or paid or whatever?
Some people like Mario, some don't. Some people like Crash, some don't. Some people haven't even played both games and only ever played one of them.
The only way to measure our e-peen is with quantity, as always.

>>4383096
This thread is just for asking people's personal opinions and for sparking conversation, not trying to reach some universal consensus.

t.OP

>>4383085
>Read mofo, read.
>>4383082
>I ain't reading that long ass post nigga
I'd say you're just baiting but I don't want to give you too much credit.

>>4383103
That's what I thought, which is why I don't mind people listing about only "good" ones because, besides being a subjective matter, there aren't that many. People often talk as if 5th gen was loaded with platformers, but it doesn't even come close to what the platforming genre was during 3rd and 4th gen.
5th gen had way more fighters and racing. And in the case of the western market, the RPG craze took over finally, it had in Japan since the 80s.

>>4382653
N64 by far

>>4383104
There's a difference between not wanting to read walls of text and misinterpreting text a five year old could make sense of.

Keep same-fagging though. This thread has been a ride with you constantly putting your severe case of down's syndrome on display.

>>4383063
whatever furfag

unfortunately i tried to look some of those ps games, how can it ever compete with the 4 first n64 games, this is nonsense

>>4382695
Not sure if you know but 40 Winks was also developed for N64 but its release was cancelled, there's a fully completed rom of it if you're interested. Nintendo Power even reviewed it giving 80%.

For me I think the N64 easily wins with Mario 64, BK/BT, CBFD, DK64 etc., while with playstation you have Spyro and Ape Escape that are good. Crash Bandicoot is a completely different type of game. But the graphics for playstation 3d games are kind of warped and not at all the same quality as N64 ones.

>>4383121
I tried to take this thread in good faith but am starting to think this whole thread is a bit of a troll - "Chicken Run"... "Kingsley's adventure"... the N64 is known to have easily won 3d platformers and FPS games by blowing away the playstation, its weakness was by not having many good RPGs or 2d games and the PS won those categories.

>>4383143
Saturn arguably won 2D.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/category/85-action-platformer-3d
https://www.gamefaqs.com/n64/category/85-action-platformer-3d

Thread can be closed now (it's mostly shitposting anyway).

>>4383149
not without abe and ape esc

>>4382653
>>4382752
>>4382890
>>4383013
>no Sheep Raider

>>4383181
who needs abe when u have clockwork knight 1&2

>>4383134
what do people see in spyro and banjo games? they are so bland and boring imo

mario 64 is goat tho
bomberman hero, jumping flash, ape escape, crash and rayman 2 all are good aswell

>>4383149
Nah

>>4383194
Yeh

>>4382752

ps1 version of rayman 2 and glover are terrible though

also: people forget about Duck Dodgers on the N64. It's better than rocket or chamelleon twist honestly.

>>4382890

40 winks and silicon valley are on "both" anon.

>>4383149
Not arguably. Playstation simply doesn't have the RAM to do the state of the art 2d fighters the Saturn could.

In terms of simply putting a good looking image on screen, obviously both are equal.

>>4383149

In fighters? Sure, Saturn wins easily.2D content in general? Saturn doesn't come close.

>>4383268
Ah, okay, thanks.

>>4382653
N64 has Mario, Banjo, and Donkey Kong. Literally the 4 best 3D platformers ever made. It's not even fucking close.

>>4383346
DK64 and Tooie suck, though.

>>4382653
N64. Not much of a contest. Ape Escape and Crash are fun, but not enough to take the crown

PS1 assraped it in fighters, RPGs and space shooters, but this is one genre that N64 soundly won

>>4383561
64 isn't bad. It can be a bit tedious but it's really straightforward. And you only need half of the golden bananas.

Tooie does have a lot of issues though. Backtracking is not only tedious but also confusing

>>4383181
>ape esc
there was a 2D ape escape?
Saturn has Super Tempo. Game Over, PS1.

>>4383182
LMRQO
LMFAO

>>4383292
so much shovelware and what does mystical ninja starring goemon do with 3d platformers?

>>4383582
>PS1 assraped it in fighters, RPGs and space shooters,

they weren't even the top sellers of PS1, besides FF7

SM64 alone destroys all the PsX 3d platformers library. Not even a contest my friend.

>>4383707
Most of the core gameplay and design in MNsG is platforming, fighting enemies or exploring is not the focus of the game.

>>4382719
YES!

>>4383709
> high sales imply the game is good

>>4382719
Finding all the fortune dolls was amazing. My siblings and I once beat the game in an entire day without saving cause we had no memory card.

>>4382975
>Team Buddies
But the N64 has similar platformers like Starcraft 64.