/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4382208
Fair hard or bullshit hard? Or glitchy to the point it's barely playable? So many definitions of "hard".

>>4382237
I'm looking for bullshit hard but glitchy hard is fine too.

Cheetahmen NES is LITERALLY impossible (literally).
Silicon Valley on the N64 couldn't be beaten so that makes it the hardest game ever.

>>4382241
>glitchy hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSaswG9sDs

>>4382247
NES era was a mythical time.
Any other suggestions?

Amiga Battletoads

>>4382274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14xWDw68yWU
Didn't even know this existed

For the Sega Genesis it's almost certainly the cartridge version of Eternal Champions.

Forget beating the game, you'll be lucky to make it through the first fight until you've read up on moves and combos.

Mortal Kombat

>>4382543
*Arcade version
Fixed for you.

>>4382245
I loved Silicon Valley as a kid, explain

>>4383128
You need all trophies to unlock the final level. You can't obtain the trophy in Fat Bear Mountain due to a bug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8zAJkir_Vw

>>4382208
Atari - Hero
Nes- Battletoads
SMS - Shadow Dancer
Genesis - Shadow of the Beast
Snes - Super Ghoul and Ghosts
Playstation- Frogger

>>4382208
NES - Ghostbusters
SMS - Ghostbusters(improved graphics, but the game is still crap.
Sega Genesis - Batman Forever
SNES - Doom (I suck at FPS games though)
Playstation - Final Fantasy 7(I suck at RPG's though)
Sega Saturn - Virtua Fighter 2 (had to beat it by using cheap moves).
N64 - Doom 64
Sega Dreamcast - Marvel Vs Capcom 2 (Holy crap I cannot beat it. I can't even beat Street Fighter Alpha 3).

>>4383613
wow you suck at video games

>>4383613
One of the dumbest posts ive ever seen.

I'll try to include a few different contenders

>NES
Ghosts 'n Goblins, Trojan, Battletoads
>GB
Gargoyle's Quest, or its sequel, also available on GB.
>SNES
ActRaiser 2, Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
>Genesis
Thunder Force IV, curiously called "Lightening" Force in NA. Maybe Shadow Dancer as well.
>Sharp X68k
Nemesis '90 Kai may be the most hardcore horizontal shmup I've ever played. Otherwise, this platform is full of shmups and ports of other difficult arcade titles.
>PS1
Vagrant Story, at least on your first playthrough if you aren't using a strategy guide. Alternatively, King's Field 2 or 3.

I would say the most difficult retro game ever made would be between Ghosts 'n Goblins and any number of shoot-'em-ups.

>>4382208
Road Rash 2, the game is impossible to beat because it has no ending. After you beat the last few levels (I think it was the 5th level), you end up warped to levels which only have cops, and if you beat any single course, the game crashes.

Holy Diver is a good candidate for the hardest game on the Famicom. Battletoads doesn't even come close.

>>4382208
Those 2600 carts with metal shielding over the ROM. You'd need a tungsten drill bit to get through that shit.

>NES bullshit hard
cmon guys
Deadly Towers and Athena.

>>4383613
what the fuck

>>4384168

>>4382208
Journey to Silius. That game is commonly overlooked when it comes to true pain.

op, dodonpachi isn't the hardest game on the saturn. It's not even the hardest shooter on the system. not even close.
you're actually a scrub.

>>4384319
I never said it was. The japs ranked it above DOJ black label.
http://www.wikihouse.com/stg/index.php?STG%A5%E9%A5%F3%A5%AF%B0%EC%CD%F7

>>4384332
DOJBL is DOJ for pussies.

>>4383613
This is a good list, except for FF7

>>4384338
I think we all agree DOJWL is the hardest DDP, but it's not retro.

>>4384345
Yeah it is, the hardware it runs on came out in 1997.

>>4384357
That's right, susan. PGM board.
So what do you consider the hardest game on the Saturn and please don't say Battle Garegga.

>>4384357
Speaking of which, the MAME team added a new recompiler for CAVE SH3 games, they no run twice as fast.
And they just recently dumped Akai Katana, but it's not officially supported on MAME yet because they couldn't get blitter delay (ie slowdown) to work properly so you're need to find a custom build for that. Pretty cool, huh

>>4384362
Radiant Silvergun Saturn mode. Takes about 90 minutes to clear and has a shit ton of boss fights, plus the game forces you to score lest your ship stays too underpowered. Great game design, wish more shmups made scoring beneficial.

>>4384387
Treasure are shmup masters

>Treasure are shmup masters

>>4384412
Spot the redditor.

>>4384186
But I read/watched a review that says Battletoads is the hardest NES game!!!

>>4384414
Get out kiddo

>>4384421
You have to go back

>>4382284
what? i got to the final boss as a child with no help whatsoever,you were obviously the dumb kid who didn't have logical capacity to figure things out for himself. The last boss hoever is bullshit hard.

>>4383710
>Maybe Shadow Dancer as well.
wtf why? that game is very easy aside from last boss.

>>4384387
lmfao 2-all ddp before you act like you know what the fuck you're on about.

>>4384369
Wrong dumbfuck, they have no accurate slowdown for any sh-3 game it's mostly non existent and due to the hardware architecture will be a complete bitch to implement. Ibara is the best sh-3 emulated titled as slowdown doesn't matter at all aside from maybe milking the final boss archer style and i know no vr pleb is.

>>4384394
>Treasure are shmup masters
Funny because all the shmup master players hate it whilst all the ign, hipsters and people who are complete shit at the genre love it. Really made me think.

>>4384338
>DOJBL is DOJ for pussies.
Stop chatting bollocks to make yourself seem hardcore, "hurrrr dis game hardest hurr" yeah who fucking cares? you can't even 1 loop clear either anyway you worthless spastic.

>>4384569
>Wrong dumbfuck, they have no accurate slowdown for any sh-3 game
Yeah that is correct, slowdown is emulated through a hack called blitter delay or something.
But the deal with Akai Katana is that if you turn on Blitter Delay the sprites will flicker and the bullets disappear so the MAME team is still looking for a way to fix that before officially adding the game to the rom list.

n64 SMASH 64

Just reopened it with my bro, anyone else dig this cool game! FUCK MELEE ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

>>4384569
It appears that you do not know about the blitter delay hack:
To turn on blitter delay press Tab, go into Machine Configuratin, turn it on and reset.
There's a bar under Slider Configuration that you can use to control slowdown intensity, the default is 50%, which is about 5% faster than the Xbox360 ports which in turn are 5% bit faster than the Arcade PCB.

Btw you should really check out the recompiler in the latest MAME, it's amazing!

>>4384569
Blitter Delay slowdown is not "arcade accurate" but is good enough for casual play. In theory, if you set blitter delay to 60% it should be closer to the arcade but the sprites will flicker

>>4384362
>So what do you consider the hardest game on the Saturn and please don't say Battle Garegga.
Discworld without looking at a walkthrough.

>>4384569
Stop posting anytime, cee.

>>4383284
>Frogger
U gotta be shittin me that was the game my mom got us with the ps1 I got so good at it

>>4385765
This shit is hard, anon

>>4385278
"Ah yes, good to see you Washgust"

>>4382208
Hardest game I can think of is Double Dragon 3 on the NES.

>>4384575
blitter delay does not get slowdown even close to accurate, this doesn't bother me but for the purpose of facts it should be known.

>>4384572
>Yeah that is correct, slowdown is emulated through a hack called blitter delay or something.
Apparently you missed the word "accurate", it's not even close.

>>4384575
>Btw you should really check out the recompiler in the latest MAME, it's amazing!
I have and was playing via metallicx slowpoke mame for years anyway, sh-3 is trash and all the games mostly are to for reason only good players notice, ibara and pink sweets are the only games that have little slowdown on hardware and don't need it anyway so none is bonus, the rest however are really built around it. Cave peaked at ketsui then downhill in both directions into ugly pre renders and terribly implemented slowdown that goes from 10fps to 60fps in a second and trolls you.

>>4382245

you could finish silicon valley the last level u had to save the earth with the robot i distinctly remember doing it as a kid

>>4384574
Melee is better

>>4384186
Deadly Towers isn't that hard.

The map is bullshit, but once you know where you're going it's pretty straightforward.

>>4384186
Deadly towers is not as hard going in blind as Legacy of the Wizard desu.

>>4383284
Shadow of the beast, the almost Impossible game with only one life

>>4387815
Both are terrible games though