/vr/ - Retro Games

First for uguu

On maps what are good sized maps? What is small, what is medium, what would become big?

I didn't think the SNES version of Doom was that bad

>>434274
A name suggestion for the OP

The more the messier.

And look at that, im tripfaging now

Holy shit, that was an entire thread? That was.. fast.
Well, since it's on a related topic, Sgt Shivers posted this ECWolf mod on his tumblr.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2pv2wpl5u3nibhg
Pretty fun and pretty challenging.

Protip: if you have ever made a map and in that map you put a giant horde of revenants, there's a good chance you have something doctors call "The Gay" go and get yourself tested today!!

>>434303
I like it when my maps are small in surface but the complexity makes it look like its huge.

IN THIS POST

You tell us:
>a doom monster(s)
>how to use them well
>(optional) how to NOT use them well

So we can all become better mappers and the doom community can improve as a whole.

Damnit, I haven't made any progress on my map for the subboard-themed mappack in a week. Guess I'll get back to work!

Does anybody have any recommendations for outdoor areas?

>>434345
>monster
Cacodemon
>how to use them
at the start of levels when you only have the pistol. Make sure to put a lot of them and put them between the player and better weapons lol!
>how NOT to use them
in areas where the player can't easily get to them i.e. where they can fly over big gaps and stuff. remember that they can't flly so only put them on the ground.

I was tricked.

>>434349
Lots of MBF dogs.
Lots.
Of.
Them.

>>434358
>picture this

a room full of that with lots of imp. when you kill enough the fake imp get animated.

>>434349
What map are you making?

>>434378
I assume for /out/.

>>434368

Unloved did something similar. except everything was frozen till you touch some key

>>434381
In that case, just copy the Gran Soren area from Dragon's Dogma, which is the /out/iest game ever made

>>434358

Hmm...is that 11Years? That map is sweet crazy, obscure WAD that everyone here should check out

>>434345

>a doom monster(s)

Can I pick a custom monster? Ok. The Shadow

>>how to use them well

Dark areas, jump-scare based sections are allowed but not encouraged. Caves, but not everywhere

>>(optional) how to NOT use them well

Full-dark, unreachable areas; snipers. God fucking dammit. If I were you I wouldn't pick this fucker at all for custom maps, it's so whored out

IN THIS POST

You tell us:
>things in doom maps that you like (good traps, tricks, fight scenarios, shit like that)
>how to use them well

>(optional) how to NOT do it well

So we can all become better mappers and the doom community can improve as a whole.

If you say things you think are bad, try to keep it to things that really *do* suck for everybody and not things that are just against your personal taste.
Eg: Inescapable death pits and vital keys in secrets.

reposting from last thread

armageddon and delta/alpha invasion survival server up. NOW WITH MUSIC AND BOSSES!

server: Sur/vr/ival
ip:108.61.83.66:15061
password: vidya

>>434430
>If you say things you think are bad, try to keep it to things that really *do* suck for everybody and not things that are just against your personal taste.
Why? What purpose is saying things that you don't like if it's things that everyone doesn't like? That's worthless information for everyone, especially mappers. If everyone doesn't like it, it goes without saying, and those things that you mentioned do go without saying.

>>434419
>Shadow

I'm actually trying to decide a good custom monster to use in caves, you know the Roach?
It looks quite a bit like the shadow but he's a bit different, I might use him but I'm not sure about his art style, does it clash with the other doom monsters or is that just me?

The lessermutant was drawing a huge ''maaaaybe'' from me.

>>434378
>>434381
Hah, no, I'm making /tg/.

>>434449
In that case, you should take a look at some of the early levels of Space Marine (for pc/ps3/360) they really nailed the look for me.

>>434442
It's more so the thread is not shitted up by purists who hate anybody using anything outside of totally stock resources.

>If everyone doesn't like it, it goes without saying,

You'd be suprised, even in 2013 you see some daft things done. Namely those two things I've mentioned. I've also seen a spiderdemon put right behind the player at gamestart and if you dont run away instantly, you're dead.

>>434461
The thing is, though, those are also a matter of taste. Limiting discussion of what you like/don't like in map design just makes the feedback a mapper could possibly get lessened. It'd be better just to tell people not to get butthurt over other people's opinions.

>>434449
Try to find a beholder in realm667. Use beholders instead of cacos.

Is there any Space Hulk wad?

>>434461
I think an occasional PANIC OHSHIT level like that is acceptable.

>>434473
>inescapable death pits
>keys in secrets
>death if you dont move straight away at map start

Let's not play this stupid game, you know as well as I that pulling stunts like this in a map is almost universally despised. Especially the first one. Though if you insist this is a matter of personal opinion, then we can agree to disagree.

>>434419
>Hmm...is that 11Years?
Yep.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=13220

>>434514
>inescapable death pits despised
>what is E1M3

How do I change GZDoom's language?

>>434514
>inescapable death pits bad
That's funny, I don't remember anyone complaining about e1m3 or the various times they did it in doom 2.

Also if you die at the map start, so what? You'll just restart at the map start. You lose nothing. I don't see anything wrong with it.

>>434526
It was stupid there, it's stupid now
Whats your point?

>>434027
While I haven't played Final Doom, I love revenants to death.

>>434568
It really wasn't.

It made you stop yoloing like a fucking faggot around pits. What, you seriously want every fail condition to have an escape clause (like a hidden teleporter in the pit)?

>>434358
Imagine Doom without any sprite billboarding.

So, why does the people who have colors in their name are "hated" in the zandro community.

Also how do I make my name colored?

>>434608
Don't bring issues like that in here.

>>434593
>It made you stop yoloing like a fucking faggot around pits.

The damage you take when you fall in does that.
The "have to reload a game or type noclip" becomes busywork. If you want it like that, make it instant death.

>>434608
they're not hated in the zandrokid community, but they were/are discriminated upon in the /vr/ servers because /v/irgins and /vr/troopers typically don't color their name.

you can color it by typing "\c#" before the block of text you want to color, replacing # with a letter.

>>434623
If it was instant death you wouldn't have enough time to figure out what the fuck happened, since you'd die halfway into falling into the pit.

>>434430

>>things in doom maps that you like (good traps, tricks, fight scenarios, shit like that)

The so-classic "the whole thing is falling down" segment after the final boss fight. With time limits a-la FFV after the Fire Crystal boss fight


Also, I would love to see a map doing the same thing as 11 Years (>>434358), a fake Imp in a switch based trap


Finally, there's a part in ZDCMP2 in which you need to reach the blue key, the thing is, the blue key is located in a gas chamber and you need to kill three barons variants before entering the chamber.

In the room where the gas switch is located there's a monitor in which you can see the insides of it. Make the player get distracted by looking at the monitor while seeing the barons die, and activate a silent trap door with a chaingunner behind the player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brBQVcf37Xc

Oh God, I can't be the only one who loves grindy Genesis-style music

Why did the real one sound so bad, have developers no shame?

>>434627
thanks

I dont get it though. coloring the name makes it easier to read because the text isnt the same color as the name...

>>434627
>/v/irgins and /vr/troopers typically don't color their name.
I swear 9 out of 10 people I've played with on /vr/ servers have had colored names

>>434653
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brBQVcf37Xc
That's the Genesis I know.

>>434654
Yeah, but it's also seen as needless attention seeking when you make your name like 10 different colors. After all, we are supposed to be anon here.

>>434548
>a fake Imp in a switch based trap
Bonus: there's a shootable switch behind the fake imp that releases actual monsters when triggered

>>434691
You're just... Sick.

>>434691
that's fucking genius...

>>434653

Now that's the stuff.

>>434691

The monsters being: chaingunners

>>434708
Chaingunners and revenants got done to death in Plutonia, I cringe when I hear revenants more than I do cyberdemons.

Are we talking about evil traps now?

how about this

>a switch in a nondescript room
>pressing it causes the walls to lower, revealing over 200 revenants to your left and right, across a pit
>there's just a long stretch to the exit
>there are invisible walls across this run that will block revenant shots
>the floor constantly moves you back, so you can't just run through it

>>434747
meant to say that the walls would block revenant shots, but not the player.

>>434430
everywhere in a small room with no exits

>>434691
Wait, no, I've got it

the fake imp IS the shootable switch. Shooting it lowers the imp into the ground along with lowering the walls to your left and right, revealing chaingunners supported by hidden archviles

It's a damn good thing I don't actually make maps.

>>433813
I'm gonna have to ask where that map came from.

>>434808
and if you don't shoot the imp, when leaving the room both the walls with the chaingunners and archviles and another wall with a spider mastermind opens

and the door closes until they're all dead

>>434827
bars come down blocking the exit when you first come into sight of the fake imp

shooting the fake imp also activates a crusher that kills a spider mastermind or cyberdemon that would otherwise be teleported right in front of you just before the map exit

/vr/ should make the ultimate trap map. A gigantic map full of tons of evil, evil traps.

>>434884
If this was /v/ it might be a different kind of trap

not that there's anything wrong with that

THIS IS BULLSHIT

How do I get past this?
fuckfuckfuckitty fuck

Titan's manor, from master Doom II levels.

>>434884
bullshit.wad?

>>434892
Ignore the image, meant to post it in another thread

>>434864
>>434884
when you finally reach the exit, it actually just teleports you onto a voodoo doll, forcing you to do it all over again

you have to find the secret exit, which is actually right behind you at the start of the map. the entire map is a trap.

is there a cyberrunner server up?

i gotta break mach speed

>>434913
Super Mario Bros - like maze level where there are multiple paths, but if you take the wrong one it goes in an infinite loop.

listen to these here doom OST remixes by Neurological

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYEbCIitYPo&playnext=1&list=PL25EFEF70BE9DB222&feature=results_main

>>434913
wait, hold up, better idea
instead of teleporting you onto a voodoo doll, hitting the exit switch teleports you into a lava-filled corridor with a ceiling that's too low to make bunnyhopping possible. in the distance, you can make out the familiar exit sign and unique door texture, but you'll never make it in time.

in actuality, every time it seems like you're getting close, you get silently teleported back just far enough that it's nothing you could notice unless you were specifically looking for it.

>>434960
the lava only does 5 damage per second to prolong your suffering

>>434967
>>434960
if you PERFECTLY SR-50 the ENTIRE TIME, you will make it exactly one map pixel from safety.

>>434960
Silent teleports are always so obvious though.

Modern Doomfare/Real Guns Hardcore is actually a really well made and fun mod. In fact, the guns feel better than the original doom guns.

>>435000
if you SR50 the whole run you'll make it with 1 HP only to get shit on by an invisible crusher

>>435020
Dunno man. You just can't beat the SSG.

>>435021
If you SR-50 the entire time you'll make it with 1 HP

but when you enter the exit door the floor drops underneath you and you get spiked and die.

then the map makes fun of you for trying so hard, and tells you to not take things so seriously

>>434919
That looks damn sexy.

>>435030
I'd argue that you can and that RGH did with the SPAS-12, but they're not the one that really made the animations of the gun, they just ported it and added some much-needed umph.

I don't know what it is with that mod, but all of the guns just feel better than their actual counterparts. Whoever made it did a really really good job.

So, do any of you have that one map that you just hate playing through? E3M2 on the original Doom would be it for me.
>Pinkies, Lost Souls, and Invisible Pinkies everywhere
>Confusing the first time you do it
>Pulls Serious Sam's everywhere
>Constantly locking you into places or sandwiching you in between a bunch of Pinkies
>Barely any ammo since E3M1 barely gives you anything, let alone any shotgun ammo, and unless you find the secret plasma gun, tough luck.
I mean, they give you a bunch of health kits, but what's the point when you just get sandwiched between five Lost Souls and a Pinky? At least it looks cool, and the secret locations are neat.

>>435082
Map08 of Doom 2.

Just a bunch of boring slaughter shit. It comes after my favorite map and I hate it, fuck that map.

The trap at the end is cool though.

>>435038
after you make it and the map kills you it tells you that you could've made it

you just had to look behind yourself before starting the run and you would've found a radsuit

>>435038
and while on the respawn prompt you notice the exit button across a bed of spikes

>>434349

I'm still working on /pol/ diligently.

Should have a finished map up by sunday, ready for item/monster tweaking.

>>435120
>>435107
>>435038
fund it

>>435082
Chasm. Fuck Chasm.

>>435138
/pol/? A POLITICS MAP? MAKE THE ENDBOSS A NIGGER
or a 4chan map? MAKE THE ENDBOSS A NIGGER

>>435161
From what I've seen his map features Nazis, Niggers, and the Checking of (shotgun) Privileges.

>>435161
>/pol/ map
>endboss not jews

>>435107
the radsuit is another trap like the imp before it, and walking over it reveals archviles along the entire path with just enough space between each one that if you sr50 constantly they'll never successfully attack you

>>435161

n****r is a very offensive term, please use nigra or coloured instead.

Though yes, there are plenty of those with at least 2 variants so far.

The final boss is actually IT'S HAPPENING

>>435197

SSG privileges actually, since in vanilla the doomguy is the only one privileged enough to wield a SSG.

>>435237
I'm trying to resist the urge to fill the comment box with NIGGER.

>muhfortress

>>435237
Fucking genius.

>>435252

>>435237
>>435237
>n****r is a very offensive term
Holen Sie sich eine Last von diesem nigger!

Guys i just played sunder.wad for the first time

>Jesus Christ all them fucking monsters everywhere. Any tips apart from strafe a lot?

So, I got the megapack and play some Brutal Doom. While it is fun apparently I can reload my guns. Problem is when ever I try to hit R nothing happens. What gives?

>>435286

>>435237
>>435214
Final boss should be a custom monster. Black version of "DIE CIS SCUM" chick, but black, with a huge cock (exposed) cock.

And then it should only spawn in a certain room, and should have "strings" dangling from the ceiling, the only way to kill it is like Icon of Sin, but instead of a goatdemonhead, it's a "le happy merchant" jew.

And instead of a backwards romero quote, it should say things like "silly goy, check your rocket launcher privilege" "muh 7 trillion" and "yes, good goyim, hit the monster, good goy" etc.

... Oh man, racism is fun.

>>435331
did you map reloading?

>>435341
You know I could probably do those quotes.

>>435341

It's a final encounter, not a final boss.

>>435331
Brutal Doom, being poorly-made as it is, still defines its own reloading function rather than using the one that ZDoom now supports by default. The bind for it should be at the bottom of the controls menu.

>>435341

Also the doom guy isn't rocket privileged since the cyberdemon and revenant have rockets.

The doom guy is SSG and BFG privileged.

>>435325

Saving a lot in maps like Sunder is allowed.

Also, making the monsters fight themselves is fully recommended

>>434419
I remember when this thing was the Fast Imp.

Or the Strain Imp if you wanna be finicky

>>435334

>>435251
As faggoty and missing the point as ever, I see.

>>435372
Hm, that's true.

>>435364
I think every board should have a final-boss type encounter, be much easier to make a bunch of hamfisted jokes.

>>435331
Seperate bind. Yes I know gzDoom has a "reload" button, but it's distinct in the brutal doom options at the bottom.

So I just found out I was completely and utterly misusing the 3D floor option.
Any other things in mapping you found out way too late?

>http://www.mediafire.com/?eucgii2y3nbkp4b

/tg/-map done!
It's also my first real map.
I'd love feedback.

>>435352
Several times.
>>435375
Ah, didn't notice that before. Thanks.

>>435453
Dling now.

>>435449

The encounter is the boss. Kinda.

You'll see.

>>435453
on it boss, DLing.

>>435237
>colored
That's even more offensive than nigger, mate. Might want to brush up on the history of blacks in the US.

>>435475
That's the joke

>>435453
>Khorne and Nurgle shown
>no Slaanesh and Tzeench
2 out of 4.

>>435475

That's why I used coloured.

>>435453
What's the uh, iwad to use and map name?

>>435482

>>435375
>Brutal Doom
>Poorly made
ok, buddy.

>>435490
Actually, tzeench IS on there. I just cut it out of the picture because, well, secrets.
>>435493
Map01, doom 2, I think?

>>435513
Wow, that got deleted quickly.

Typical mods tryna keep master rusemen down.

>>435538
Aw, now I wanna know what it was.

>>435541
yougottricked.jpg

nothing of value lost.

>Run DB2 in wine
>Put map in it
>GREEN LINES WHERE TEXTURES SHOULD BE
>COMPLETELY UNUSABLE DIALOGUE BOXES

>>435541
It was the "you just got tricked" face replying to >>435482

>>433813 here, taking feedback
>Which game (Heretic or Hexen) would you prefer seeing a mod made for?
>Does anyone know any Heretic or Hexen suitable texture resources?
>If Heretic, would adding new items/weapons be a good idea?

>>434646
>>434430
>The so-classic "the whole thing is falling down" segment after the final boss fight. With time limits a-la FFV after the Fire Crystal boss fight

Is there even a doom map that does this?
I'm sure it would be scriptable.

>>434646

That's an amusing prank, if bad game design.

>>434646
>Silent trapdoor
>Not silent teleport
You disgust me.

>>435453
That fucking blue maze.

>>435517
There's about three pages of console errors when you load the mod. I'm not saying anything about how the mod plays, it's just awfully made. The code is stuffed to the brim with ridiculous hacks - the player definition alone is almost 150KB of plain text. Despite using the PK3 structure it manages to be horribly disorganized and finding what you're looking for can be a real wild goose chase.

So, what's the /q/ map gonna be?
>inb4 nothing but high-quality soundbites

>>435621
Hehehe, if I could get my hands on a Lord of Change sprite, I'd probably throw a resprited cyberdemon in there.

>>435453
fuck you and your chaingunners

Not bad so far, noticed the Khorne. Demon trap was a little too easy to gimmick to death (grab chainsaw, bolt to chokepoint(door), kill one by one)

>>435646
I saw your tricky shit in the room with the key card doors. I was thinking
>I hope when I walk into this room there won't be any guys near the doors corners in which I will get ambushed by monsters.
>Check around the corner
>Chaingunners
THE TIDES HAVE FINALLY CHANGED.

>>435528
Yea for some reason it's not working, but that's fine.

On another note what are the best mapwads and music wads (preferrably russian) to use for RO?

>>435585
>Which game (Heretic or Hexen) would you prefer seeing a mod made for?

Isnt Hexen just Heretic +?
In that case I'd say use Hexen.

>Does anyone know any Heretic or Hexen suitable texture resources?

Realm667, this is a link to the textures area and I've put it to show you Heretic/Hexen style textures. Enjoy!

http://realm667.com/index.php/repository/texture-stock-mainmenu-152/heretic-hexen-style-mainmenu-154

>If Heretic, would adding new items/weapons be a good idea?

Sure, however dont go overboard with it.
You'll find additional resources on everything available at Realm667, actually.

>>435627
Oh, ok. I believe that.

>Opening up ZDL
>Having to load the .ini everytime

I'm getting tired of this shit

Also. >>435453

I just picked up the blue key but I humped every fucking wall to no avail, where do I go now?

>>435719
Did you go outside of the base yet? Outside of the base there is a fake wall you can walk through.

>>435719
There should be a switch in the large outdoor chamber, past the red skullkey doorway.

That was a lot of demons.

>>435453
It wasn't too bad over all, though some of the balance could do with a few tweaks.

1 - The canned Khorne area was a nice setup, but the megasphere was really just overkill with all the other health items you had in the area, maybe swap it to a green armour instead to go with the heal from the beserker pack

2 - i just wanted to say, wall humping is my life

3 - I felt the invon was really not needed for this room, it's got enough healing and cover to fight everything there without too much of a need for the invon

4 - two things here, the blood walls are a bit weird by itself, i usually make a bit of a lower area round it where the blood drains into rather then the blood going down into nothing, and the second one is a nitpick more then anything, i would suggest 2 teleport pads instead of one, gets the enemies out quicker.

5 - and finally, wall humping is my life

So all in all, not bad, a bit too easy with the items around, but other then that i liked it
(could've used an imperial aquila somewhere though)

>>435627
That's just nitpicking though. The mod itself works fine; console errors are of no issue to the end result, and you're just nagging over the backroom details with things like organization, which really isn't relevant to anyone but the person working on the project anyway.

You can say you don't like aspects of its setup, but saying it's awfully made is just ridiculous.

>>435585
I'd like to see more Hexen that is more Doom-y or RPG-y than "flip switch, find what obtuse puzzle mechanic it activated, repeat"

>>435453
Just finished it with all the secrets. I loved it, though you seemed to put the good powerups and shit like that AFTER the challenge you would have needed them in, instead of before like in the BFG room secret. Maybe try moving the monsters in that room to another room behind you? I didn't really get/need to use the BFG anyways. Also, you only need one Berserk pack, the effect stays with you until you complete the map, further berserk packs just heal you to 100%. You could replace the extra packs with medikits or something. Also also some of the hallways in that one slime room were hard to navigate in.

Other than that I loved it. 9/10

Also I didn't get any of the references, I've never played 40k

>>435680
Hexen has a set of classes, completely different weapons and mostly different enemies. Although, replaying through it now, there isn't a massive selection and most of them are boring. If I felt like it, I could probably do away with classes or change the way they work and throw in some sort of inventory system where you can swap weapons 2-5 as well as adding different firing modes to the weapons. That'd be more than what I was originally intending to do, though.

>>435585
Hexen would work better for a class based game, and it also has more features. Shit, even when I'm making DOOM maps I use the hexen format anyways. Go with that.

>>435843

So.

We decided that the hacker from System Shock would be a cool addition to Samsara. His power would be to "hack" the game and turn into one of those floating cyberspace things, and he'd do a lot of damage while in that form.

Serious Sam would also be a good addition.

Turok would be cool too. Tek Bow would be awesome.

>>435895
Who the hell is "we"?

>>435895
You should add Halo. Eh's a pretty cool guy.

>>435851
Hmmm, perhaps stick with Heretic then.

>>435862
> I use the hexen format anyways.

Switch to UDMF mate.
>http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/UDMF
>http://zdoom.org/wiki/Universal_Doom_Map_Format

>>435808
It shows laziness on the author's part. The game spells out what's wrong, he's just too busy flaunting his ego and waving his awards in the faces of his critics to actually fix the errors.

oh, and
>The mod itself works fine
Do a fatality under a door and say that again.

>>435851

I'll say it again: Hexen Trine. Make it so the player can switch between the classes at will, shit would be so cash.

Though trying to assemble ALL the 4th slot weapons would be hellish. Not that you really need anything but Wraithverge...

>playing Sunder, MAP01
>cyberdemon with shitloads of archviles and revenants
>have this little red beacon thingy in inventory, assume it's some ion cannon or some cluster bomb thing
>place it, run for cover
>why is Flight of the Valkyries playing?
>Oh god what is that big black thing
>OH GOD MY FRAMERATE
>pic related

At least I cleared the monsters.

>>435935
>wasted the hindenburg 2 on a measly 127 enemies
You disgrace famiry.

>>435935
>only killed 127 enemies
you shame us all

>>435945
>>435948
>>435948
I didn't know what it was, I swear.

>>435935
Some of the guns in that are just hilarity.

There's the ion cannon thing in the expansion pack, that does this huge blast on initial contact, then a bunch of beams point skyward and triangulate on a position then BOOOOOOM.

I might do a playthrough of Deus Vult with Russian Overkill.

>>435907
Lots of folks playing on the Samsara survival server.

>>435925

>Do a fatality under a door and say that again.

What exactly am I looking for here now?

>>435760
Yeeah, before I decided to tone it back a little, there were fifty demons canned in those walls.

>>435801
>1
I've swapped the megasphere to the armor, and I didn't actually know that berserkpacks lasted the entire map until just now, so I've replaced all of those and the healing kits to stimpacks. And then I need to figure out how to prevent someone from gimmicking the doorway; maybe by teleporting a handful of demons into the starting room.
>2
As it is for us all.
>3
That was left over from the first rendition of that room; there wasn't the wall for the archvile, and there were a lot more cacodemons hiding in the wings back then.

>4
I agree with the bloodwalls now that I look at it, and... well, the teleport pads were intended for the player to run through inadvertently. I need to fuss with that a bit more so that the spectres stay inside (maybe learn how to make it so that monsters don't teleport), darken the maze a little, and such.

>5
The map reveals that particular hidden doorway to the exit, which is why there were three of them in the maze. But then again, I need to add more secrets in there. And a ton of traps, of course, to discourage wallhumping there.

>>435843
Actually, the BFG was an afterthought. I initially planned for it just to be a secret room with three barons just to be a dick to the people who try to 100% it.

I should actually restructure nurgle's room a bit, but it's supposed to be dark and rather cramped.

Anymapper know about 3D floors?
How do I set a thing on top of the 3D floor, instead of on the floor underneath? Changing it's Z height doesn't seem to work.

>>435962
>expansion pack
The latest release merged the expansion and added a shitload of new guns. Fucking black hole cannons and shit.

>>435964
>>435895
Um.
Practically the last person I want is Serious Sam.
Dude doesn't do anything unique or interesting.

>>435970
>I need to fuss with that a bit more so that the spectres stay inside (maybe learn how to make it so that monsters don't teleport), darken the maze a little, and such.

Just make a square around them and make it block monsters

>>435895
"serious sam" aka "douk nouk kem only he doesn't talk"

>>435965
Hm, maybe it actually got fixed. There used to be a bug where doing a fatality under a door would result in you getting stuck under the door and you would have no choice but to kill yourself and try again.

>looking for doombuilder tutorials
>find some guy named Chubz Doomer
>has the most fake-sounding redneck texan accent I've ever heard
>look at some other videos of his
>it's his real voice
this shit is fucking hilarious

>>436010
>"douk nouk kem only he doesn't talk"

...
Are you fucking retarded?
Or are you making a terrible joke?

>>435979
A thing would need to have the "NOGRAVITY" flag set to "+" in order for that to work. Other than that you could have a thing spawned in via map spot and ACS.

>>435995
He's essentially Duke Nukem but without the stupid one liners.

>>436034
I'm from Texas.

That voice is totally legit. I've heard folks who speak like that.

Also, Chubz Doomer is a cool guy.

>>435895
Samsara seriously needs Halo from Master Chief to be added.

and Turok.

and whats his face from Timesplitters.

>>436048
I'm from texas too, but he sounds like my uncle when he's shitfaced.

>>436010
>>436039
Have you played any of the Serious Sam games? 'Cause he talks. A lot.

>>436034
I like his tutorials though, he covers some things that are not covered in the video tutorials on Doom Builder 2's website, I'm in the process of going through them.

>his voice

Heh, it takes some getting used to.

>>435895
Look for an old wad called Turokdoom, it would be the best place to get the weapons.
>>436051
I think the Timesplitters guy was named Cortez

>>436056
I played the original version. He barely talked in it. Then when they made SSHD:TFE they added a shitload of one-liners because they realized they weren't ripping off Duke enough..

>adding master marysue to Samsara

At least the Hacker from system shock would probably have a bit more unique to him than chief.

>>436051
>needs

Every time I see people talking about what Samsara "needs", it's just a random character name with absolutely no thought put into how they would work, how they would be different from the others, strengths or weaknesses, or how to port them.

>>434304
It wasn't. I had fun with it.

>>436056
I didn't say he didn't talk. I said he doesn't use stupid lines that Duke does.

>>435453

A bit too much health packs found it a bit easy.
But apart from that good mapping

>>436109
>he doesn't use stupid lines that Duke does.

You can't be serious

>>436109
'Course not. He's got plenty of stupid lines of his own!

>>435986
I wish weapons were aligned to the right instead of the 5:4 aspect nonsense. If people just made centered weapons it wouldn't be a problem, or at least finished the sprite on the outside.

>>436067
Yeah, you're right, Sgt. Cortez.
>>436091
Ok.
>Halo
Is basically a sniper
>Turok
Has more inventive weapons, like a flamethrower and a bow, and everyone's favorite, Cerebral Bore.
>Cortez
Has almost entirely automatic weapons, as well as weapons from all sorts of different time periods, so you can have a western revolver, soviet sniper rifle, futuristic autogun, etc.

As for how to port them, I don't see any reason that anything from those characters can't be ported, except for Turok but someone evidently found out how to do that since that Turokdoom mod exists.

>Samsara

I've never played Multiplayer before, how would I get into this? I hear Samsara is fun.

What maps do you play with it? It seems like you'd need a certain kind to get the most out of it, do you really play as a team or just more as team deathmatch and you're all on the same team?

If I play as Duke can I say his dickhead one liners?

>>436139
Also halo could obviously have regenerating shields but less health overall and could get sicknasty 420yolo headshots on all the enemies.

>>436148
Only if the enemies spewed mountain dew on death.

>>436120
Ok maybe that ONE line in BFE where he uses a line from Zero Wing was cheesy, but who ever mentions that game anymore? It was a good game ;-;

>>436148

>>436136
1: Join in the Samsara servers or download it here: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=200

2: You can play any sort of vanilla or vanilla-esque mappack with it. Just don't try nd use, like, Hangman or Dodgeball maps and you're good. Or you can play DM and kill each other.
Really, whatever gamemode Zandro already has, you can use with it.

3: Yes. Duke's dickhead one-liners are in force. Jon St. John even recorded a few specific new ones.

>>436153
Having Moutain Dew and Doritos apply to him would actually be kind of funny.

>>436136
Invasion seems to be what's popular at the moment, though in the past we've played CTF with it, too.

Why does this exist?

>>436136

Most people use Invasion or Invasion Survival with it turned on (which is basically fighting wave after massive wave of monsters, usually ending with a boss on the final wave), but Samsara CTF is also fun as all hell.

>>436170
If that happens then you just gotta keep his name as "Halo" and not "Master Chief".

Complete the parody, you know.

>>436139
>cerebral bore

that wouldn't even work out. though the Chronoscepter would be sick.

>>436175
Lures enemies to it, of course.

>>436148
Could we have halo have regenerating armor, but not health?
Or add shields to his armor and health?
hmm

Also, does doom support multiple hitboxes on enemies?

Make him slower and a better jumper.

Make his melee more powerful maybe

Make him more accurate

>>436175
Doomguy, like most men, needs sexual gratification every once in a while.

>>436139
>halo is basically a sniper
>cortez has almost entirely automatic weapons
>turok has more inventive weapons like a flamethrower and a bow

haaaahh hah hah hah hah

>>436189
>Also, does doom support multiple hitboxes on enemies?

not without a fuckload of work and a guarantee that you'll never be able to do anything of that sort to custom enemies

Guys

Cyberrunner add-on for Samsara
Y/Y
Imagine she fires and moves and jumps faster, but her weapons are much much weaker than their respective Doom counterparts. (Cyber Shottie does less damage per pellet than Doom shottie, Cyber vulcan takes off somewhere close to 1 hp every shot...)

>>436208
>Cyberrunner add-on for Samsara
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh god.

>>436208

I'm interested in this.

>>436175
Shoot it near a group of enemies and let them do the job for you.

>>436208

that sounds horrible. most maps are cramped as fuck anyways, which would make her worthless as fuck plus you can run cyberrunner with samsara

>>436189
>Also, does doom support multiple hitboxes on enemies?
Well, you can make enemies spam invisible hitboxes that refer back to the monster spamming them.It's a hack but it does work.

Though if you're looking to do headshots, there's a simpler method that involves checking the height of the shot relative to the enemy's height and multiplying damage accordingly.

>>436139
>Turokdoom
Dat one map thats nothin but dem raptorz.

Guys.
I'm surprised nobody's suggested the obvious addition to Samsara.

Unreal.

>>436232
Well she doesn't need to be AS FAST as her regular mod counterpart. Chex Warrior's weapons don't do half the shit they do in Samsara.

>>435917
I'm thinking of rebalancing all the weapons (from both games) now and just keeping the theme. Too bad I don't know Decorate.

>>436269
Decorate is hard as shit to learn, especially since there's no real starting point.

>>436258
>she doesn't need to be AS FAST
Shut up and die, that's the entire fucking fun of Cyberrunner.

>>436257
Fuck, you're right. But do we also include UT?

>>436271
>hard as shit to learn
>no real starting point

Um.
I learned Decorate in three days.
And there's...literally millions of references out there.

Seriously, just start with making a weapon. It's...not hard. At all.
Open up a SIMPLE weapon mod, look at the decorate, tweak it and make a weapon of your own.

>>436273
But not the fun of Samsara. If it's a SAMSARA add-on and you complain about a class not working for SAMSARA and then complaining about us changing it so it does work for SAMSARA...

>>436281
>you complain about a class not working for SAMSARA
I think you have me confused with someone else.

You guys aren't going to forget the best DOOM clone, are you?

>>436293

I think you mean Wolfenstein clone, anon.

>>436257

Scratch Samsara, let's add the Assault and Domination modes from UT

>>436293
>adding noah to Samsara
>putting cyber demons to sleep

update when?

>>436271
>Decorate is hard as shit to learn
It's really not that hard, at least to make something nice, I had never used it before and I made Doomtra in about a week.

As for resources use Gunlabs as a starting point, then just refer to the ZDoom wiki whenever you're stuck, and you should be able to get some nice stuff done.

Course, Decorate isn't flawless. There's a lot of stuff you'll need to learn ACS to do, but if you just want to make a weapon/enemy mod it's got everything you need.

>>435453
I stood in place for at least two minutes sawing away. I'm not sure what, if anything, to do about it. Something about the ledge made them incapable of climbing up with me.

I'd probably diversify the monsters a bit if that doesn't clash with the /tg/ theme. At the very least, take a few of them away so it isn't so much of a grind.

So while I was playing Hexen I had an idea for a Megaman X inspired mod. I've only got a few basic concepts for replacements down though and I don't know what all the upgrades could be.

Here's what I've got so far:
>play as Mage, maybe the Fighter could be added as a Zero equivalent down the line
>Mystic Urn - Heart Tank
>Icon of the Defender - Sub Tank
>Krater of Might - Weapon Tank
>probably use the armor items as additional weapons to make up for Hexen's lack of weapon spawns
>Ultimate weapon pieces would be replaced by the upgrades, though I don't know what the upgrades should be other than obligatory damage reducing armor.
It could have its own mapset that would play more like MMX, but seeing as I lack any sort of mapping ability that wouldn't be a very high priority.

Anyone got any other ideas for item replacements?

>>436335
>Assault hasn't been added to Doom yet
Why the fuck has Assault not been added to Doom yet?

>>436361

Who the fuck is going to make maps for it?

>>436183
Yeah, Chronosphere would basically be Turok's Tier 5 or so.

I'm thinking Bow as basic, then tek bow as tier 2, charge dart tier 3, shredder tier 4, and chronosphere tier 5.

His power is jumping onto the back of a Triceratops and running around like a crazy bastard, as in the River of Souls.

His taunt is obviously, "I AM TUROK!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2tVeg1ZEgs

>>436361
>>436335
"Stronghold: On the edge of chaos" sort of did these. That was fun as.

Though I never play doom online so I dont know how often Stronghold is played, I also dont know if it would work with Samsara.

>>436257
I actually did suggest that while playing.

I am making my first ever Doom map guys :)

I've tried to get into level editing so many times over the years but never had the patience to get into it properly. I tried making Doom maps a few years ago and though the editors I tried were just confusing, needlessly obtuse pieces of shit.

However I downloaded Doom Builder 2 and got to grips with it in like two hours just from reading an FAQ and fucking around. Here is my map so far, I only started it last night. I am trying to make it more of a retro doom feel than the SLAUGHTERHOUUUUSE type maps you tend to get these days.

Any pointers chaps? I've noticed some wierd behaviour with the sectors and assumed maybe I just don't understand it properly, but nobody can seem to explain it any better. For example when I tried to create some raised platforms in a sort of stairway in the large area to the right of the map, I ended up making whole sectors just disappear somehow. Not sure I get what's happening there.

This is fuuuun :)

>>436419
Hit F4 and see what the error reporter spits out. If you can't make sense of it, post it here and I'll see if I can.

>>436419
The tutorials on DoomBuilder 2's website are quite easy to follow, the video ones.

Aside from that I'd say it helps to know the shorcuts and hotkeys.

>>436419
when in doubt, spam "make sector"

>>436429

The only errors it's giving are missing textures, which I know are just from a stairway I started building before breakfast.

What happened is I used the linedef draw function, started off at one of the vertices on the top right, and made a closed sector that I was just going to have at a different height. When I finished it the "child sector" within it just straight up went black. It seems like it was invalidating it because all except one of the linedefs was highlighted in red, like it was fucking it up by stopping it closing the loop somehow. I just don't see how that's any different to any of the other sectors I had made in the same way.

>>436165
>Jon St. John even recorded a few specific new ones.

Wow I always hear him about working with fans for stuff. He's pretty cool guy.

>>436471
Ah. Did you try using the "Make Sector" tool on the black area?

Well okay I guess this works golem guy.

>>436492

No, seems like that would be the trick I'm missing though.

>>436453

Indeed.

I feel like this gun isn't supposed to do this. It ejects about 200 empty shotgun shells and kills a cyberdemon while spending no ammo.

>>436610
Video mandatory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjxFXFauYeI

>>436610
It takes the shells from your inventory, and you get shells in your inventory by shooting shotguns.

Unless you're playing on Communism Powerful Force, in which case you just get infinite shells. I think.

>>436279
I've used it to make props and stuff but every time I've tried following a tutorial to make a weapon it's ended up crashing the game for no apparent reason.

Is there any way to get double inventory? Sometimes I reach the max. capacity while playing, but somehow I feel the need to have more

>>436719
Do you get an error message? Or does it just freeze?
Can you post the code on astebin and tell us what you are doing when it crashes?

>>436719
If anything, you could take a gun that works and build off that inside it's parameters.

>tfw no Doomkart news or alpha server

Hurry up. I need fun to live

>>436610
Waste not, want not!

>>436825
>Cyberrunner has already gone through two test builds

Come on, we gotta have two fast mods.

>>436825

This is like the 9001st time Ive seen someone bitching about doomkart.

Its always the same idiot anon wih his fucking viral marketing. Fucking newfag, piss off with your shit to /v/ and get along with the other newfags.

I swear, idiots like you make fucking rage

Hey /vr/, need a hand?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=23616&start=270#p642626

(Fucking 4chin won't let me post them, connection error garbage)

>>436293
is there a TC to that or what

With increased production quality and length;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhtSKPD-9lg

>>436932
you know we all have our own doom projects
also
>viral
>for a free thing
did you get dropped on your head as a child?

>>436975
Dude, freaking awesome.

Seems like there's some sorta Doom mod for all of my favorite games.

>>436941
>insightguy's avatar
>that motto

But cool, the sheet shall come in handy for all.

>detonate a ten nukes and throw black holes around like candy
>one guy is miraculously left alive, still thinks he can kill me no problem

Also is it possible to run this map without lagging?

>>436825
Can someone fix his body ?
Abs don't work like that.

>>437018
>Also is it possible to run this map without lagging?
Play it in PRBoom+.

No joke, that port is magic.

>>436930
Cyber runner was started in august if you look at the builds. Doomkart was started 2 weeks ago.

>>437029
>>436825
Also, the exposed abs was originally because the green shirt over them had been ripped away by demons.

>>436930
>>437059

I can alread tell you that Doomkart will be a gay shit mod because the coder is lazy and has no skills and the artist guy does 3D model ripping, which is gay, because making sprites.by hand is cooler

>>437089
>3D model ripping
lel, that's not even what it's called.

I guess the whole of Doom is gay because all of the sprites in Doom are actually just slightly edited photos of models

>>437089

He actually does a thingy, like passing off the 3D caps from the models to gimp and gives them a proper Doom paletted color

>>437089
I suppose you think Mortal Kombat is gay too?

>>436030
been playing BURTEL DERM for a long, long time...

Literally never had this happen.

>>437089
>I have no idea what I'm talking about!

>>436352
I just bolted to the door after I saw the trap. Then did exactly what you just said and sawed the demons.

>>437089

youtube.com/watch?v=sohZgWfWRcI
>the coder has no skills

>>436987
everything that /v/ isn't a fan of being spoken of is a "HURR DURR VIRAL".

No, seriously. I frequent /vr/ and /vg/, everyone once in a while I go back to /v/, and then I remember why I left that shithole and decided never to come back (then I come back again for 5 minutes, repeat, etc)

>>437089
after
>>437189
Told Status:
[ ] Told
[ ] Epicly Told
[x] For whom the Lel Told

>>437189
Looks neat, I swear there was a doomkart like thing in the works years back that was never done.
SolarSnowfall I think was the guy working on it, at least his avatar is an imp in a gokart.

What would be hard to code in this though I think would be momentum, eg: take foot off the gas....you still drift along.

>>437189
Not even that guy, but what about this is supposed to be impressive? I don't see any momentum or anything like that and without that it's going to be a pretty dull racing game.

>>437326
The mere fact that it exists is impressive.

I don't see it as a mod with much staying power without some (way more) spice to it, but I liked his last piece, so I'm keepin' a little faith.

>>437326
I think it's early days for their mod, man.
This isn't the final product.

>>434274
What's the skill level on the /vr/ servers?
I'm fairly new to Doom but i'm interested in picking up multiplayer.

>>437089
The vast majority of all Doom and Doom-Clone sprites are touched up model renders and photos, Heretic, Strife and Hexen are the only doom engine games that are even half hand-drawn, and they still use touched up photos and models for all the weapons.

>>437369

As long as someone called Eric is not on the servers, your ass is safe. But in general we're fairly good.

>>437378

>That Eric cannot be human

>>434653
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brBQVcf37Xc
Beautiful.

>>434919
>Guns not growing out of your chest.
What wad are you playing?

>>437450
Soulcrusher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7MGG9ndva8

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1712

Really, REALLY good shit. Give it a shot, it's definitely worth it.

Did anybody ever play Psychophobia?

I really really liked it, even though it was a bit different to standard doom fare I thought it was a kickass mod.

>>437496
Why isn't there a Kawaii doom mod yet?

I want to mow down cat girls with a gun that shoots good feelings.

>>437496

It's pretty good. The best thing about it are huge and complex levels, the worst is that the first episode is fucking infested with hitscan enemies.

>>437507
I did once see a kawaii spritesheet for doomguys face.

Okay guys I need help with this one

I'm DESPERATELY looking for the "BREW" version of Doom RPG, apparently that one has floor and ceiling textures, and hopefully it has sprites of higher quality

All I have is the JAR version of it, if you happen to know where I can get it, I would be happily thankful for your help

Why am I looking for such thing you may ask? Three things

>Archival purposes
>I've been thinking about making a PC version of the mobile game since forever, and having the textures in hand would help me like you have no idea
>The same thing, but with Kronos (the semi-final boss); I need pics of him with higher quality from the ones I currently have (I snapped some pics using my Blackberry while running the game) for a better reference, since I'm planning to go old-school to make the sprites

>>437507

How cool would it be to play as Chen?

Just think about it

>HUD
>Sprites
>And a custom bycicle horn replacing the chainsaw

>>437515
>When you kill the final boss he screams, 'Oh, chen!'

>>437515
Get on it, /vr/.

Ok so did anybody ever play 'NeoDoom'?
The author was 'Daniel'.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=14359

I found it really fun, new guns, monsters, levels and guns and textures. Hell it's in my own top 10.
When I played it it never had the items, maybe my sourceport removed them (game was probably better off without them).

It was one of the first fan made wads I played on my return to doom in 08.

can i play on mac?

>>437572
Don't know why you'd want to do that. But some ports work on mac. Read the FAQ

>>437558
It's fun, although some of the weapons and enemies don't click with each other(demons, hexen monsters and giant fucking vixens), I like the urban look of the maps, and the carnage you can cause with the explosives and shit.

Hey doombros, what's the modern map editor of choice these days? I used to play around with making maps waaaay back in the day using old DOS/Win3.1 editors like DEU and DETH, but what's the new hotness that supports the new gzdoom/etc features?

apologies for filter usage in screenshot

>>437507
http://www.mediafire.com/?fhereqsvv9r4s9f

No good feelings guns though.

>>437863
Doom Builder 2 and SLADE.

>apologies for filter usage in screenshot

I dont mind OpenGL to be honest..
Also, is that legacy of suffering?

>>437863
LoS is horribly designed 12-year-old level design with a derivative artmap pasted on top of it so the filters are the least concerning part of that screenshot. There are much better filters you could be using, though.

>>437895
>Also, is that legacy of suffering?
Yeah, I liked that one a lot. It was a better Doom 3 than Doom 3 was, IMHO. The plot twist with the ghost was neat, too.

>>437909
>'pinions

>>437909
Note: I mean 12 year old as in a 12 year old child would design maps in the same way, not as in the age of the style of design itself.

>>437914
>XXX is so shitty, I have much better map packs/filters!
>doesn't list any of them

ok

>>437920
Inorite, Dont judge us if you have no way of helping us improve

>>437920
Try pretty much everything in the recommended wads infopic besides LoS, try Phobos: Anomaly Reborn. Hell, even KDiZD is better. LoS is "Square arenas where you kite monsters that come out of monster closets: The .wad".

>>437974
What else?

Lets make this thread a little interesting for a change, I want people to recommend stuff that hasnt already been said

>>437989
RTC-3057 is a good (If somewhat rough) hub-based wad but it might be a little difficult to get up and running.

Struggling like a motherfucker trying to get some good screenies from Kronos; I'm using KEmulator to run the game, while filtering the textures via the own game's cheat menu. I'm not sure how it would look if I were using the BREW version of Doom RPG (I'm running the JAR one)

It seems that his body drips a little bit of blood (reminding the player that it came from the insides of Dr. Guerard's body)...

...and then when he attacks you he opens his arms and you can see his "frills", like the Dilophosaurus from Jurassic Park (the "little one" that killed Nedry in the movie)

I assume he's very fast too, because for every step you take, he moves like 3-4 times (Doom RPG is a turn-based game). He's the most fastest demon in the whole game, even surpassing the Lost Souls variants.

Picked this up out of the ZDoom wiki .wads list and it's actually kind of neat as a scenery/semi-conversion mod. Not the best in the gameplay department, but it holds up and the theme is unique.
http://doomworld.com/idgames/?id=16274

HEY YOU.

Yeah, you in particular, the one reading this right now.
I want you to stop doing whatever you're doing, I don't care what it is. I want you to open up Doom Builder 2 (You can get it HERE: http://sourceforge.net/projects/doombuilder/files/latest/download?source=directory if you don't have it yet you crazy motherfucker)
I want you to make a Deathmatch map. In 4 hours
I want to see it finished, uploaded, and posted by 1 PM 4chan time.
It doesn't have to look awesome, or be incredibly fresh or play amazing, but it does need to be playable.

Are you a bad enough dude to collaborate with /vr/? Huh, punk?

>>438113
Oh, you're motherfucking on.

>sign says that there're no green keycards in Doom
>I'm looking at it
>I've grabbed one on previous level

>>438113
Sure, but I'm using custom textures and zdoom features and I'm not going to clean up the .wad so it'll inflate to about 3-4 unnecessary mb and nobody can stop me.

What server is everyone on, I haven't played doom in years...

This gonna be good.

OK /vr/!

What happens when I bind n "give hindenbergbeacon", then remove everything from inventory, then spam n while spamming my item use button, all while having freeze on, then turning freeze off?

Pic related, I do not know how many I put down, but I lost count at 20.

>>436975
>>436975
Seeing your other videos there are a few things lacking.

1) No hit sound for the melee weapons
2) Recoil, these guns need at least a little considering the source material.
3) Kick animation looks a bit awkward

Still looking forward to it.

>>438293
Oh god it's fucking laggy as shit, even making my PC fuck up badly.

>>438293
It's going to freeze.

>>438113
Never made a map before, is there anything I should know?

>>438298
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>438309
My game froze.

>>438324
Did the same thing with God mode, 150hp & 200 armor. Afterward I had 31 hp and 200 armor.

It hurts even with god mode.

>>438307
Make sure there's always at least two exits for every room- no dead ends in Deathmatch maps. Other than that go wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fEuUix_o-s
my sides

>>438421
Thanks man! Is map making basic enough for me to make something in four hours? I mean, I'm going to learn either way but I want to know if I could have anything worth submitting...

>>438471
You might if you're talented. I'd suggest watching the first couple of tutorials on the doombuilder site first. I made this in about 6 hours of work total- though it's not finished.

Speaking of that, still taking suggestions if anyone wants to suggest something.

>>438072
>>438034
Isn't there an iphone, or something emulator?
From what I've seen the Iphone version is more hi-res.
That one looks great, but it might me too little for Doom, when compared to the other monsters.

>>438485
Neato, thanks once again.

Doombuilder 2 and SLADE 3 is the way to go I'm guessing.

>>438496
Yep, though I use gzdoombuilder, I wouldn't recommend it. It's really only good for using certain gzdoom specific features, and it crashes a lot more often.

>>438512
Well, I guess it's time for me to go get learning.

I'll keep you all updated if anything worthwhile comes of it.

>>438520
Lookin forward to it.

>>438435
I...

What?

>>438487

Well, this was the first of the Doom RPG series, and it was released only for Java-compatible phones. The one you might be thinking is the second one, where you fight an electronic virus called the VIOS (Virtual Icon Of Sin), that was released for both Java mobile phones and the iPhone. The second one is a weird hybrid of the original Doom weapons plus some redrawn ones from Doom 3

And based from the size of the enemies (mostly, the cyberdemon) Kronos might be a little bit bigger than the Pain Elemental but not as big as the Mastermind

This pic (for example) is taken from the deceased webpage that id Software had for the game. He doesn't look as big, but I might be fix that in the future

>>438435
>ommbience
Fuck this guy.

>>438487
That's Doom 2 RPG, the sequel. (Actually a prequel to the events of Doom 1 RPG which was only released on J2ME enabled phones.) D2RPG was released for both J2ME and iPhone.

>>438435
>Because they removed archviles, neutered revenants, and put chaingunners and pain elementals everywhere the game is more balanced!
u wot

Is this guy a parody or something?

>>438593
He was saying that since the console port's movements were more neutered, they tried to balance the monsters out to compensate.

Instead of having things you can't dodge as well with the dpad and shit, have....well...they did it wrong but at least they tried.

>>438615
>Instead of having things you can't dodge as well with the dpad and shit, let's put in a bunch of shit you can't easily dispatch that constantly drain your health lol

>>438632
At least they tried.

Besides I don't mind chaingunners that much anyway, they're easy to kill with a shotgun or SSG.

I never got the Chainguy hate. Yeah, they cut you down like you're the morning toast, but hell, they're weak as fuck and ducking behind cover makes them completely amnesic.

>>438682
Well if there's at least 5 they can easily kill you before you finish shooting them all, or at least bring your health pretty fucking low.

>>438682
I've gotten so good at doom that most of the time the enemies don't even bother me that much.
I can take care of pain elementals and chaingunners no problem. The only guys that still piss me off are the revenants and the archviles.
Why do they place so many fucking revenants in the maps?

Have a shitty, basic deathmatch map. It's a bit too big, but it features a working lift!

http://www.mediafire.com/?km35qekkzxbxaa6

>>438254
Actually nevermind, this just turned into a "For the love of the art" map. I work really fucking slowly anyway.

>>438682
they can take you out ez-pz even if they're miles away.

>>438742
looks pretty good - looking forward to seeing the finished product

Would it be possible to use MAPINFO's "DeathSequence" property to make a mod where, if you died, you had to play a short level through hell/limbo or something?

>>438783
I'm not sure, I've never used the DeathSequence property, but I don't think you can jump levels with MAPINFO.

>>438783
I know you can call ACS scripts upon death so it's entirely possible.

Is Aliens-TC really the first person who used the term Total Conversion?

It's weird to think the grand daddy of modern modding really just dropped off the map like that.

Anyone got Doombot or anything like it can't find a download link anywhere?

>If i had a slowpoke i would post it now

>>438034
How do I get my hands on a rom for this game? Just load up this emulator and search some rom sites? I used to own it on an old phone I had.. I miss it.

>>438742
Looks pretty. Too pretty?

I hate trying to play online with Zandronium. Its difficult to play a game when all of them have different mods and you have all the newer pk3 and wad versions.

Which one is the /vr/ server, and what mods EXACTLY are you using?
Links would be appreciated.
A lot of servers are using skulltag data.pk3 which did not come with my GZDoom. Does this mean I need to download another pk3?

Also, upon load up, is that brutal blood mod supposed to have all of those errors spitting up the bootup screen? UNKNOWN PATCH and ERROR fill it to the brim.

map editor related question, if I am making maps to be played on zandronum, is there any advantage of using GZdoombuilder over DB2? Also, does anyone know how to disable the godawful filter on gzdoom?

>>439329
Check the faq at the top, should help you.

There are several /vr/ servers

>>439337
fuck me
i just read doom thread not the actual post
thanks anon

i was bored

>>439356

Rule one of watching map making:

Watch the video first.

Spent a good 10 minutes fucking around with textures/lighting for no real reason, whoops.

But god damn is map making fun.

Holy shit, the E1M1/MAP01 hybrid rocks!

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=12117

>>439272

It's not a ROM, it's a java game for mobile phones, I just emulated the game to get the textures and sprites I wanted.

I can give you the link for both games if you want

>>439414
sure, I've been wanting to get this game again for a while.

I thought about getting it for my ipod touch but I don't know if it's the same game or not. But either way I'd rather play it on my pc.

>>439306
I've got that to fall back on if the layout sucks too much.

>>439448
May I ask what editor you are using?

>>439337
Are all of the ones with [BE] in front of it /vr/s?

how come i can't see anyone on the servers?

>>439512
No, BE is the hosting service we use.

>>439512
they all mention /vr/ in the server name from what I've seen

>>439512

Yep, BE stands for Best-Ever, a friendly server hosting webpage for those who have toasters, like me

>>439441

Okay, here's the link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/519f3e1tsnlvuwh/Doom_RPG.zip

Remember, these files are .JAR, I'd recommend you using KEmulator but the ingame menu is kinda slow

>>439527

Are you running Zandronum or Skulltag?

>>439512
All the ones with /vr/ in the name are /vr/s

>>439527
We're not online 24/7.
Pop in a server, hang for a bit, advertise it in this thread along with the password, it'll fill up.

>>439492
Doom Builder 2 using ZDoom's UDMF format, running it in Zandronum. Texture pack is CC4-tex

>>439552
Thanks again, great

>>439565
Thanks man, I'm starting to get the hang of this map stuff.