/vr/ - Retro Games

>tfw even the 32X gets more discussion that a console with hundreds of games

>>4353458

>What did this console have or do that set it apart from the SNES/SFC and Genesis/MD?

Shooters. Shooters out the assneck.

I'm not really that familiar with the system, are there any good tiddy games on it?

>>4353992
Some RPGs of varying tittiness: Princess Minerva, Megami Paradise, BABEL, Sol Bianca, Cosmic Fantasy series, Startling Odyssey 2, Star Breaker.
The Dragon Knight ports if you want DK with voices (The PC-98 originals are tittier, but no voice.)
For shooters, Burning Angels and Hellfire S are somewhat titty. (People will mention Steam Hearts also but I'm trying to mostly stick to exclusives.)
For character raising/training games, the first two Metal Angels are PCE exclusive and might be worth looking into.
There's some strip mahjong games but I'm not too familiar with mahjong so someone else will have to cover that.
There's also Hacker International's unlicensed eroge like BodyconQuest and Highleg Fantasy

This series of Niconico videos may prove useful for research:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6273809
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8431099
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8948895

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>>4354086
You've been every helpful, Anon, thank you.

>>4353458
I like Bonk and shmups and it's got both. I only ever learned about the console as an adult, but I think I would've loved it growing up. I also enjoy the novelty of having games on cards.

>>4354118
>I also enjoy the novelty of having games on cards.

Same, it's kind of funny how that sort of came back in the modern age and discs are the ones that are dying out.

>>4354125

Isn't it, though? Time is a wheel, I guess.

How are these titles?:
Military Madness
Chew Man Fu
Battle Lode Runner (talking about the multiplayer on this one, is it fun?)

>>4354125
I am glad they are dying, disc are actually what started the decline of modern video games

>>4354184

Nah. I love optical media. Just not what they eventually began putting on 'em. I think the industry was going strong until about Gen 7. Hell, the reason I'm so mad about how HD-DVD and Blu-Ray shook out is because they fucked two perfectly good disc formats with their protectionist bullshit.

>>4353992
>are there any good tiddy games on it?
After the Saturn it probably has the most for any console

>>4354184
No they don't you stupid fag.
>muh carts
seriously limitated what was possible. And even if they would still use cartridges today they can easly implement the same stuff like FMV's that you hold CDs accountable for

mini when?

>>4354270
Konami would botch it badly.

>>4354191
>the reason I'm so mad about how HD-DVD and Blu-Ray shook out is because they fucked two perfectly good disc formats with their protectionist bullshit.
what do you mean?

>>4354184
>>4354191
Nothing to do with media formats.
What started the downfall of video games was online multiplayer (though that would be okay if it remained like it was pre-Gen7), and later dlc/microtransactions, social network integration and marxist politics were the final nails in the coffin.

So I got a PCE Interface in the mail and it doesn't use the same power supply as the base unit. Tried looking online but couldn't find anything more than anecdotal evidence. Anyone know what kind of power supply I can use on the Interface? I heard that a Genesis 2 supply should work, but I'm not sure.

>>4354532
political economic theory killed video games?

>>4354654
Don't play dumb.

>>4353458
HuCard
>Bomberman 94
>Soldier Blade
>Bonk 2
>Parasol Stars
>Galaga 88
>SonSon II
>Salamander

CD

>Rondo of Blood
>Ys series
>Legend of Xanadu I and II
>River City Ransom
>Thunder shooters
>Spriggan

What set it apart
>extreme variety of models, for better or worse
>shooters
>RPGs
>5 player multiplayer
>only 16-bit wireless controller
>Reset on controller instead of on console

Hudson, Falcom, Taito and Namco gave a lot of support. Sega and Capcom support was mostly indirect
Konami was high quality but only a handful of games

Platformers were okay, beatemups were poor

>>4354532
What the fuck does Marxism have to do with the decline of videogames?
I swear, you people have literally no idea what leftist theory is even about. The videogame market is very large and successful.

>>4354806
>What the fuck does Marxism have to do with the decline of videogames?

lol /pol/ said it so it must be true

>>4354632
It does require a more powerful adapter, I bought mine from https://en.retrogamesupply.com/products/power-supply-for-nec-pc-engine-interface-unit

It works great for me so far, but be warned: the cable is very short. Like, 3 feet long. Also they ship from Europe. But I've bought a couple adapters from them and I trust them more than some random China trash by far. You can seek out an original adapter, but that will likely be more expensive and be much less power efficient. Not to mention it could be dangerous due to the voltage difference from Japan and you would need a step down converter to avoid trouble (more expense)

I had one as a kid. It fucking ruled. Here are the best games I remember.

Bonk : mascot platformer
Legendary Axe: Hack and Slash
Blazing Lazers : Vert shmump
R Type: horiz Shump
Dungeon Explorer: RPG/Dungeon Crawler
Ninja Spirit: Ninja themed Arcade Platformer
Shinobi: see above.
China Warrior: BIG ASS SPRITES. mediocre game
Military Madness: Hexagon War Stratgy turned based
These are games I enjoyed the tits off of.

>>4354806
Ok I'm taking the bait for the last time.
I was talking about cultural marxism, ofc. Nothing to do with economics.

It's no wonder the market is successful when dominated by modern leftists, they're the most materialistic and consumerist people on this planet after all.

>>4354260
They did you stupid fag
CD are the worst thing to happen to video games, just like HDs on consoles, shit enables dlc and day one patches
Kill yourself
>>4354532
I like how you included your /pol/ shit there

>>4354892
searing anti-capitalist critique, bro. do you want to talk about video games?

>>4354892
"Cultural Marxism" is an appropriation of a fascist meme about Judeo-Bolsheviks invading our society, it's not an actual political project. Seriously, do you think any strand of the Left today is familiar with the works of the Frankfurt School, the supposed inventors of this "Cultural Marxism"? Let's not forget that many of these philosophers tended towards social conservatism, and their whole impetus was the critique of consumerism and its destructive impact on culture.

Please read some Adorno if you want to actually know what you're talking about, or shut up. The idea of "well it's totally Marxism but it's about social norms instead of economics" is so fucking dumb I can't express it properly. You can't be a damn Marxism if you ignore political economy, that's the whole point.

Splatterhouse

>>4354907
Enjoy your butchered games, and way higher prices than faggot

>>4354953
I don't think it's stupid, nowadays we encourage young boys to mutilate their genitalia and dress and act like girls because "gender is a fake social construct". If that ain't social communism I don't know what is.

HURR YOU'RE STUPID YOU'RE IDEAS ARE STUPID is not an argument.

is it even possible to play darius plus without autofire

>>4355437
No. It's a good thing autofire comes with the controllers by default

>>4353458
Some recommendations. 30 for each system. I took a direct list from my hard drive hence the .zip/rar extensions but these were all hand picked. I purposely avoid most arcade ports because MAME exists.
Hucard:
Air Zonk (USA).zip
Bari Bari Densetsu (Japan).zip
Bloody Wolf (USA).zip
Bonk's Revenge (USA).zip
Bouken Danshaku Don - The Lost Sunheart (Japan).zip
Bubblegum Crash! - Knight Sabers 2034 (Japan) t.zip
Burning Angels (Japan).zip
Coryoon - Child of Dragon (Japan).zip
Cratermaze (USA).zip
Cyber Core (USA).zip
Devil's Crush (USA).zip
Final Lap Twin (USA).zip
Gekisha Boy (Japan).zip
Genji Tsuushin Agedama (Japan).zip
Gomola Speed (Japan).zip
Knight Rider Special (Japan).zip
Legendary Axe, The (USA).zip
Madou King Granzort (Japan).zip
Magical Chase (Japan).zip
Maison Ikkoku (Japan).zip
Makai Prince Dorabocchan (Japan).zip
Momotarou Katsugeki (Japan).zip
Neutopia II (USA).zip
Override (Japan).zip
Parasol Stars - The Story of Bubble Bobble 3 (Japan).zip
Soldier Blade (USA).zip
Somer Assault (USA).zip
Son Son II (Japan).zip
Terra Cresta II - Mandoraa no Gyakushuu (Japan).zip
W-Ring - The Double Rings (Japan).zip

CD:
Akumajou_Dracula_X_-_Chi_no_Rinne_(NTSC-J)_[KMCD3005].rar
Bakushou_Yoshimoto_Shinkigeki
Choujikuu_Yousai_Macross_2036
Chou_Aniki
Cosmic_Fantasy_2
Doraemon_-_Nobita_no_Dorabian_Night
Download_2
Dragon_Slayer_-_The_Legend_of_Heroes
Dungeon_Explorer_2
Exile
Fray_CD_Xak_Gaiden
Galaxy_Keiji_Gayvan
Gate of Thunder
Ginga_Fukei_Densetsu_-_Sapphire
Godzilla
Iga_Ninden_Gaiou
Kaizou_Choujin_Shubibinman_3_-_Ikai_no_Princess
Kaze_Kiri_-_Ninja_Action
Last_Alert
Lords_of_Thunder
Mad_Stalker_-_Full_Metal_Force
Metamor_Jupiter
Motoroader_MC
Mugen_Senshi_Valis_-_Legend_of_a_Fantasm_Soldier
Rayxanber_3
Seirei_Senshi_Spriggan
Splash Lake - Ostrich Daibouken
Sylphia
Yuu_Yuu_Hakusho_-_Anshoubu!!_Ankoku_Bujutsukai
Zero_4_-_Champ_2

Pro-tip - make sure you unpatch the BS out of the working designs games.
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=23436

I recently was playing and Gekibo geshika boy is simply based. Fun as hell, with a different concept of shooter game and with a crazy scenario, I simply love it, can't stop play it and re play every stage to search new jokes.

If i see that bonk one more time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg78h4ZJ_Hk

Anything more to say?

My PC Engine won't save no matter if I format it. Help?

SNES and Genesis are my favorite consoles. Turbografx was a competitor to those two that I barely scratched the surface to (only have six titles so far).

Right now I have:
Castlevania Rondo of Blood
Ys Book I and II
Star Parodier
Soldier Blade
Bomberman 94
Detana Twinbee

Any other titles that are among the best on this console that I can get off the Wii's Virtual Console?

>>4354182
all good. IDK about multiplayer on battle lode runner, but solo is decent.

>>4354737
>>Reset on controller instead of on console

No shit? I did not know that.

>>4358471
Gate of Thunder and Lords of Thunder

>>4359170
Hold Run and then select

>>4359321
I watched videos of those two and the sound effects seem to drown out the music. Is it just the videos I watched are is the audio drowned by the sound effects?

Did PC engine have any internet connectivity?
like SNES and Mega Drive?

>>4360053
No

>>4359562
a little bit

>>4354086

I miss ye olde console times when people weren't afraid to put titties in their games.

>>4360254

I do too, fellow Trooper. I do too...

>>4354086
>The Dragon Knight ports if you want DK with voices (The PC-98 originals are tittier, but no voice.)
Depends on the game. DK1 barely has nudity on the PC98 while DK2 has very little voice acting on PCE.
DK3 on PCE has quite different gameplay.

>>4360254
You get to visit a brothel in the new Ass Creed where the whores are barechested. The exception to the rule, for sure, but still better than nothing

Can any Turbobros give their thoughts on each of these games I am thinking about getting (or the ones on this list that they played):

Battle Lode Runner
Bonk's Revenge
Chew Man Fu
Devil's Crush
Galaga 90
Military Madness (some say it is among the best Turbo games, while others say it has aged poorly)
Neutopia II (I heard many say while it improves on the original, it is still a very boring game, and has nothing going for it unlike other Zelda clones)
The Dynastic Hero

>>4360334
Devil's Crush is required playing for Turbografx/PC Engine

>>4360345
I have heard people describe it as the best home console pinball game of the 16-bit era.

>>4354436

Blu-Ray was a needless alternative to HD-DVD. Then when they'd killed HD-DVD and the DVD Forum they kept locking down Blu-Ray more and more and more. Now with the introduction of Cinavia and the 4k scam ('cause I just really wanted to be Weinsteined in the ass by Hollywood and rebuy all my discs yet *again*), I'm no longer interested in the format itself.

>>4354907

>They did you stupid fag
CD are the worst thing to happen to video games, just like HDs on consoles, shit enables dlc and day one patches
Kill yourself

Anon, don't be fucking stupid. You've gone way way past "Things were better back in the day..." and are dangerously close to luddite territory. Not everything new in videogames is bad.

Just most things.

>>4360603
But isn't Blu Ray better than HD-DVD?

>>4360669

Not unless you consider "more DRM", "shittier authoring tools", "more expensive optics", and "durabis required so your data doesn't get face-raped" to be positive attributes.

The only thing it had going for it was capacity and some extra ECC safeguards. Even the scratch-coating is marketing spin to hide the fact the disc cannot retain data reliably without it (the data layer sits *right* on the bottom of the fucking disc).

>>4353552
Honestly the more obscure it stays, the better. Otherwise the prices of games will only continue to rise.

>>4360334
>Turbobros
NECbeards

>>4360334
Military Madness was a lot of fun. I eventually ended up beating it as an adult on the virtual console. There was also a simple way to play as the enemy side on all maps, greatly expanding playability.

My fave TG16 game of all time would have to be Order of the Griffin, which was a faithful D&D RPG. Very rare. I remember getting quite far into the game as a kid before I simply could NOT advance thru this one dungeon. I learned as an adult there was a bug where a door would shut forever, or something.

>>4361409
Nice insult. Would be effective if Turbo famboys existed in a sizable number.

Happy Birthmas PC Engine. October 30th is the official birthday

>>4362481
>Fourth gen is now 30 years old

>>4360053
Yes. But not many were sold and it no game ever used it.

Anyone have thos pics from a Japanese Gaming Mag of the average PC Engine player, Mega Drive player, and Super Famicom player?

>>4353992
I will never understand why Sapphire is held up as the "gold standard" of fucking shmups on the PCe. It was good, sure, but it wasn't groundbreaking in any metric whatsoever. How does this game command the price that it does?

>>4364531
Most graphical capable game of the PCE.

>>4354086
>>4354109
Such excellent pixel graphics for a 80ìs console!

I actually don't like the way Sapphire looks, because of the (pre-rendered) polygon stuff
Prefer traditional 2D

>>4365350
Second image looks more like PC98 given the resolution and colors.

>>4360053
no, but it was the only console with a wireless controller

>>4366306
Nope. Not even the only with an official one.

Which should I get: Bonk's Revenge or New Adventure Island?

I have a copy of bonks adventure and air zonk. I'm Willing to part with got them at a estate sale 2 weeks ago. I'll post pics when i get home.

>>4369616
Get an Everdrive and play both!

>>4369624
I'll give ya 20 bucks

>>4369692
I was hoping for discussion or feedback on them.

>>4369616
New Adventure Island is a pure platformer. Run left to right and jump over a ton of shit

Bonk's revenge has an emphasis on exploration, secrets, bonus stages and also has verticality

Depends what type of platformer you prefer. Also do you prefer ranged combat or melee?

How'd you all decide what version to get? Just whatever was available? I'm vacationing in Japan come April, was curious if I should just wait and look there for a turbo duo or just look locally.

>>4372006
Well most non-Duo ones function the same (except the Shuttle). It really depends on what you want.

>>4354853
The stock PSU for the IFU rig weighs like 4 pounds and is the size of a hamburger. I have one and it's basically too heavy for my outlets, would second getting a good, new one as you have recommended.

>>4357793
Really need to know what model you have and how you're trying to save, hombre.

>>4372006
The combo-units are pricey even in Japan. I recently got a Turbo EverDrive and an RGB/Composite thing that connects to the expansion port and I just buy 'untested', piss yellow base-model PCEs on eBay for ~$20-30. I've decided to just emulate CD games and stick to hardware for HuCard stuff. Every single model except the Shuttle are RGB capable, and unless you get a CD unit completely refurbished they're just time-bombs.

>>4372158
Just normal briefcase one, both white. Every cd game that has the possibility to save gives me a warning screen that I should format it. There's northing in the save cabinet to format, even if I format it keeps showing the same screen and doesn't let me save

>>4372229
The briefcase saves with a capacitor, it's possible that yours bit the dust, but I don't have any experience with saving CD games on my IFU (my CD-ROM is dead), only HuCards.

>>4372242
The one on my Turbografx still works, is it possible to switch the capitators?

>>4372275
The data isn't actually saved IN the capacitors. You can try replacing the capacitor for a new one to see if that solves the problem

>>4372275
Certainly, though you may as well get a new one. It basically works in the same way a battery-backed cartridge does, but a capacitor has a longer shelf-life, with the trade-off of it needs to be powered on regularly / left plugged in or it can drain, deleting your saves.

>>4372332
Do you know which capacitator it needs when where it's located on the Briefcase IFU?

>>4372346
That I do not, my friend. I only recently got my IFU and it hasn't seen much use (or disassembly) since my CD-ROM unit is dead as a doornail. Someone more technically inclined on /vr/ may though. The wealth of PCE knowledge (in english) online is also surprisingly deep.

>>4372146
>>4372161
Cool, sounds like I can fairly safely just nab even a regular turbo grafx, then. What do about region lock, though? Just everdrive?

>>4372457
A base, white (or CoreGrafx) PCE is generally cheaper than a TG16 since they were produced in way higher numbers, especially if you're going to Japan. Really depends on the aesthetics you're looking for though, they all play the same games. EverDrive is the way to go, though. PCE/TG16 games are super expensive, and region locking is a pain. There's so few TG16 games on HuCard to begin with, and once you region mod a system, it won't work with the EverDrive. There's just a switch on the TED for whatever hardware you're using and it plays every single HuCard game from any region on any machine, totally worth it to have the entire library at your fingertips.

>>4358471

>Star Parodier
they took this one off :c i might have to emulate this lovely machine

>>4372506
Wii Mednafen kicks ass and plays PCE and PCE CD titles as well as the Virtual Console ports.

>>4372506
Star Parodier is a great game. The shmup equivalent of Super Mario RPG.

>>4372741
>the shmup equivalent of Super Mario RPG

wtf is that even supposed to mean?

>>4372850
Going to assume this means "It's lighthearted and as far from serious as it gets".

Any good songs/remixes made with the PC-Engine sound chip? I can only think of this one.
https://youtu.be/lsJos0EwuP4

>>4372850

it's the dark souls of hydlidevanias.

>>4354737
>Only 16-bit Wireless Controller
Genesis had those, too. They were pretty shit. I prefer corded for retro anyway.

>>4375393
Why wouldn't you prefer cords in general?