/vr/ - Retro Games

why tho

>>4347380
I think saturn vs psx vs n64 ports would make more sense for a thread desu

OBSESSED

>>4347403
i don't have enough knowledge on Saturn games, you can post saturn comparisons if you though desu. I have extensive knowledge of PS1 library though

What are games equivalent to Sega Rally and Daytona USA for the n64 and ps1?

>>4347415
alright, when I get home I’ll contribute

Cherrypick, the thread.
I'll contribute some later.
In the meantime, someone post the N64 vs PS1 gif.

dude, console wars, lmao

>>4347397
Someone should make this comparison but in webm.

>>4347446
literally only you are bringing console wars up

>>4347447
damn, that would be awesome. I haven't made a webm before.

>>4347401
because it's an original idea, fuck off

Is this what happens when /vr/ circlejerks the n64 all summer? Someone has to post a few ps1 screen shots to shatter them nintendrones delusions

>>4347462
here we go

>>4347462
what nintendrones? don't see any itt, just op posting ps1 vs n64 shots, but I can't tell on which side he is.

>>4347461
It's a banal idea, and you're a first-class dullard.

what is this thread even trying to accomplish aside from console war bullshit?

>>4347380
That's hardly a fair comparison, a late-year PS1 title vs. an N64 launch title.

>>4347484
The hardware stayed the same, and the PS is older than the N64

>>4347479
It's an original idea according to some retard.

Im going to start taking some more creative liberties with these comparisons. Feel free to criticize or recommend other games that would match even better. It gets harder to compare when most games that are clones are often clones of games on the same console.

>>4347489
Irrelevant. Early titles are always clunkier compared to ones that come years down the line. It just takes developers that long to get a grasp of everything a console can do.

Sorry if genre wise this comparison differs a little bit... in terms of multiplayer fun action, Team Buddies is the only game that really comes close to rivaling the four player fun that Smash Bros has to offer

I think I'm done, the N64 and PS1 libraries are too different and weird to compare. Medieval = Ocarina of Time? Spyro = Crash bandicoot. Etc, etc. PS1 also has a lot of titles that are difficult to compare to anything on the N64.

In other words, when games can be quite difficult to match for each system

>>4347471
Nah, but nintendo 64 threads have been kinda a stable for the last 6 months on /vr/

>>4347380
Op are you a psychic? Ive been thinking about ape escape recently but could not remember what the game was called. Haven't played it or even seen it in like 15 years

>>4347528
?

>>4347513
rakugaki showtime would have been a better choice

>>4347517
crash bash?

>>4347592
It would have not. That's the shittiest Treasure game.

>>4347380
i think spyro would be a fairer comparison

>>4347606
What is terrible about it?

>>4347461
>console warring is an original idea

>>4347650
Fun fact: some of the staff from Hybrid Heaven actually worked on Metal Gear games on MSX and Snatcher.
But HH is actually nothing alike Metal Gear, it's an RPG wrestling game.

>>4347662

true. but back then everybody hoped that HH will be the N64s MGS... which it wasnt, but it was still an quiet ok game.

>>4347618
Everything. The fact you can't lock targets.

>>4347674
Can you do that in other beat em up style games? Can you do that in smash bros?

>>4347650
I guess WinBack would be better at that

Does N64 have any horizontal or vertical shmups for comparison?

>>4347601
i thought about it. Board Game Top Shop is much more enjoyable Imo.
>>4347608
>see pic

>>4347748
I might try it. Looks interesting

>>4347745
Not 2D, I don't think.
There's Star Soldier (which is considered average to bad compared to others in the series, never played it) and Dezaemon 3D. Those play like vertical shmups but with 3D graphics.
Other than that, there's Bangai-O, which isn't a traditional shmup but it's all 2D, however the PS doesn't have any game like it either to compare to.

>>4347413
CTR took more inspiration from DKR I recall.

>>4347807
Yeah, it has the same kind of "adventure" theme to it with big-open tracks with hidden paths and stuff.
Mario Kart is more straightforward go-kart racing in its track design (which I prefer to DKC/CTR)

>>4347446
That GIF is bullshit, pic related was from when it wasn't memed into oblivion yet.

>>4347819
Comparisons in general are bullshit, especially if it's a .png at 1010x1010.
Plus, most of us are using a modern PC monitor or a cell phone to browse /v/, screenshots we see here aren't representative of how these games actually look on CRT.
That other gif is at least funny.

>>4347829
Dude the original pic (not gif) as bullshit and inflammatory as it was just tried to show off the difference between filtered and unfiltered textures for normiefags, the one I posted at least legitimately serves a good purpose.

>>4347829
>>4347849
>>4347819
someone post the gif. i wanna see what you are all talking about

>>4347892
You're not losing much by not seeing it, >>4347829 has low humor standards.

>>4347849
>>4347897
why do you get so upset about a simple gif?

In >>4347849 I was getting upset at the original version of >>4347819 which was not a gif, it just had the bullshit "filtering" which used a more advanced interpolation method and or gaussian blur, said fake filtering was brought over to the GIF, which is just a couple of cheap jabs at the fact CDs have loading times and that lacking a z-buffer and having integer screen coordinates makes a texture phase in and out of DMA over a black background for some stupid reason.

>>4347380
I know these templates are not 10 seconds to make, still though, some people are comparing some weird shit or less known games than they should.

WHEN I SAY WEAK AZZ YOU SAY BITCH


WEAK AZZ

>>4348013
bitch

>>4348017
WEAK AZZ

Oh shit, been ages since I've seen such an original thread like that one. Great idea, OP!

>>4347557
what happened to this series, outside of some forced ship?

>>4347807
>CTR took more inspiration from DKR I recall.
It's a straight up DKR clone that used recreations of DKR maps during development.

>>4348129
If it was to that extent it wouldn't be as fun as it is.

>>4348059
I have no idea. I only played the original and never beat it and then got an Xbox instead of a ps2

>>4348020
WE

>>4347513
>smash bros pictures/gameplay with cpu in them
Always sad when I see those around/in reviews

>>4347403
Wouldn't be fair, PSX is notretro.

>>4347380
This game was really clone.

>>4348798
what is it?

>>4347517
just played this (board game top shop) with my girlfriend tonight and she just said ti reminded her of mario party

>>4347513
Also, Team Buddies is not very well documented due to its rarity. it is the best hidden gem on the PS1 hands down. People have no idea on the content they are missing. its a huge game

Does the N64 have a MMLegends 2

>>4348824
The PS1 one is some Gamera game that apes Panzer Dragoon gameplay style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZiZyOv21g

>>4347425
Burning Road on the PS1 is a straight up Daytona rip off. There are a bunch of PS1 rally games I believe too. Closest thing I could imagine for a rally game on N64 is Beetle Adventure Racing.

>>4348798
Oh shit what is this PS1 game?

>>4347517
Fuck yea

>>4348906
No. Possibly because MML2 sold like reheated dog shit.

>>4347380
Ape Escape definitely has better textures and benefits from not having the N64 vaseline filter.
But it's only rendering the floor, one enemy the rocks and the tree stump. The background is pre-rendered.
Mario 64 has a lot more rendered stuff going on, especially a load of stuff in the distance.

>>4349158
Also Mario 64 is a launch title running on the least optimized N64 ucode in existence.

>>4347381
64 controls were far superior to layouts on ps1, i had medal of honor underground and it felt unplayable after PD and GE

>>4347492
Kirby 64 is a better comparison.

>>4349231
or Goemon's Great Adventure

>>4349012
are you fucking retarded? that question was already answered only two posts before yours >>4349003

Armored Core and Costum Robo?

>>4349302
Wouldn't Last Legion UX be a better comparision?

>>4347380
Ape escape soundtrack? Yes please!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz7w2pW0nfA

See now to me this seems like a great way to introduce games to anon's that they wouldn't have otherwise thought of playing. If you're a fan of A, try out B. This is a good thread so far.

>>4349397
this. anyone claiming
>CONSOLEWARS
is a retard. It's just a comparison, and not a single image using the template in this thread is inflammatory.
Good thread, OP

>>4348906
I've heard mega man legends 2 get compared to ocarina of time

>>4347380
Why does everything on ps1 look so shit

>>4350036
> muh N64's 5 layers of blur

>>4350036
5th gen was an ugly looking time as a whole.

>>4347578
I don't get why PD is so overlooked and GoldenEye isn't. It's basically a better version of GoldenEye and in my opinion the best multiplayer game on all consoles of that generation

>>4350119
It required an expansion pack for single player and I thought the level design was a downgrade.

>>4350124
no it wasn't. GE was a great game but PD was superior in every single quality. The story was great as was the level design and the multiplayer was awesome. It was censored in Germany though, and I thought that that was the reason why noone played it. Seems to be the case around the world though

>>4350119
Perfect Dark released after the PS2. It's probably just a case of people moving on late in the console's lifespan.

>>4347892

A simple exaggeration for humurous effect, the N64 one looks like coated with vaseline but is there instantly, the PS1 one shows "Loading" for some time then presents the texture really blocky which then jumps around a bit referencing the PS1's texture warp problem with perspective textures.

>>4350036
When you can't into 3D depth, thats sorta what happens.
Even something like Chrono Cross looks like a gigantic blurred mess when all the texture resolution is bleeding into neighbor pixels, on barely a video output.
Sure the PS1 has games like Spyro or Crash, but the N64 has games like Banjo, Zelda or Conker, which ends up looking like mid end PS2 games in many cases.

>>4351724
god i wanna see it. sounds funny. hope somebody posts it somewhere soon =0

>>4349209
I disagree, gokden eye was a bitch to get the aim down. Medal of honor was just using a dpad, so it really wasnt too bad. Perfect dark played better than golden eye, but not by much.

>>4351776
Top kek.you really think that. If this isnt bait you are a retard.

>>4349881
megaman legends 2 is more like metroid prime

Does the N64 have a single 3D or 2D fighting game?

>>4353894
it has no fighting games or rpg's

>>4351724
>then jumps around a bit referencing the PS1's texture warp problem with perspective textures.

That's not even remotely how it works though.

>>4353894
3D, a bunch, but none of them is better than Tekken 3 or Virtua Fighter 2. I like Super Robot Spirits.
2D, there's MK Trilogy (sucks), Rakuga Kids (goofy konami game, has insane sprite animation though), and Killer Instinc Gold.
RPG, well it has Paper Mario. There's some others but PM is probably the best one. Ogre battle 64 for tactic RPG.

>>4353936
The jitter used in the gif is reminiscent of the PS1's vertex jitter rather than the affine texture warping.

>>4351941

>>4349231
This.

Fuck, time to go replay Crystal Shards.

G-SUS! I knew that the N64 didn't have any games worth playing but I didn't know that it got fucked THIS hard by Sony.

>>4354653
>G-SUS!
Please never do that again.

>>4354653
So you only owned the PS as a kid?
Didn't you at least have a friend with a N64?

>>4354659

The power of DJEESOOZ compells you.

>>4354664

I did and played a little bit of Mario 64 but I always hated it and do still until this day. The first 3D Mario I liked was Galaxy.

>>4354675
You only played SM64? Never a multiplayer game?
At any rate, you don't seem very qualified to give an opinion on the N64's catalogue.
You barely played a bit of the most common game on the system, and that's all? What a joke.

>>4354681

Yes, I played one afternoon of Goldeneye with 4 players. I didn't like that one either since even back then Doom played much smoother.

b-b-but ps1 uses affine texture mapping, so it's not REAL 3d

>>4354696
>1997
>Doom
Anon, by that point in time Quake was already out.
Anyway you're still not qualified to give an opinion on the N64. You just seem to have a hateboner for it after playing a bit of 2 games, probably with an already biased mindset.

Is there a PS1 version of Buck Bumble?

>>4355049
Yes, see, his point is that even though Doom was 4 years old it ran better for multiplayer than GE. I'm not sure how you found that difficult to parse.

>>4355135
Well I think there is always Bump to the bump to the bump to the bass, bump to the bump to the Bumble!

>>4347706
This.

>>4347513
Eh, I would use Digimon Rumble Arena.

Tiny Tank = Conker's Bad Fur Day
Brave Fencer Musashi = Mystical Ninja/OOT

>>4355135
Spider?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IFTcPw_mB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y9nwXIL5TU

>>4355213
>Yes, see, his point is that even though Doom was 4 years old it ran better for multiplayer than GE.
Doom didn't have 4-player splitscreen. That's a non-trivial performance challenge.

>>4355045
Between affine texture mapping, vertex jitter and polygon fighting caused by the lack of a Z buffer, it's correct to say that the PS1 can't produce a stable 3D image.

>>4347425

>>4355213
I'm just making fun of him for thinking his opinion is valid when he admitted to have only played tiny bits of 2 games (and I bet he didn't even do that, probably only watched some footage of the games on Youtube)

>>4347380
ps1 was better, cuz better games

>>4356675
n64 was better, cuz friends

>>4356706
>n64 required an add-on to be fun
sega tier

>>4347819
>>4347829
>>4347898
>>4351724
>>4353936
>>4354139
>tfw I was the one who made the gif from the original png
As some said, it was never meant to be an accurate representation, rather a mocking of the comparisons.
IIRC, i did it after someone suggested a comparison where the drawbacks of each console were somehow exaggerated(which was why i simply blurred the N64 texture instead of applying a proper filter), and originally the PS1 side had a much slower loading bar, but i figured it was kind of boring and it became unfunny to stare at an almost still image for 10 seconds before the PS1 texture appeared just for a mocking gif, so i changed it to the LOADING text.
Sadly there are people who keep reposting it as if it was accurate or somehow a valid point in the console war debate

>>4349397
I have no idea what this is, but this man seems to be practicing his trigger discipline with an invisible gun. How horrifying. I mean, he could have shot me dead 6 or 7 times by now and no one would know he had the gun.

>>4356706
even with no friends its still better

>>4347426
Vanark is one of my dream games.

>>4347380
Yo! I was just thinking about the comparison of these two games whilst playing Super Mario 64 for the first time in awhile. What a coincidence!

>library of the N64 and PS1

But that's not as fun

>>4347380
why the m64 pic have a blurry filter on it tho ?

>>4359020
That's not even Dark Souls, that's Dark Souls 3.

N64 is da best

>>4357369
you're a comedic genuis

>>4347380
anyone who hates either of these consoles hasn't been balls deep into the games
that's what was great about 5th gen is games started to be HUGE

>>4359020
>pc

>>4359657
>NO WAY F>>4359667
AG!

>>4359657 #
>NO WAY FAG!

So 64 = more aesthetically pleasing but ps1 = crisper textures?

>>4359915
PS1 = giant douche N64 = turd sandwich

So, which game is the PS1's Ocarina Of Time?

>>4349209
>>4353568

You guys... you did find control preset that uses two analog sticks as in modern day shooters.
Just asking because on epsxe or pcsxr with plugin that have deadzone adjustment controls were fucking great.

>>4349209
>>4353568

You guys... you did find control preset that uses two analog sticks as in modern day shooters.

Terracon vs Body Harvest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA_e5c3XG80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGq3XPbzaPg

>>4359915
>but ps1 = crisper textures?
Worse textures being eaten by that 240p output.
The only games that look good is the ones that use vertex colors instead of textures, because they actually scale well against the output, while textures do not.
N64 can have actual sky textures, and terrain textures, of random sizes too, even if vertex colors is still better due scaling and performance.
On top of that, its possible to letterbox on the N64, to increase video resolution. Or just use 480i for that approximately 640x240 output.

>>4353894
People like fighting games???

>>4360190
It didn't have one, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

On that note though, N64 had no FFVII or MGS equivilants, so who cares?

If you MUST be an asswipe and INSIST the psx just has to have an OoT. Then take your pick from: MegaMan legends, soul reaver, alundra or brave fencer musashi.

None really fit the bill, but you people will argue about anything, and they're all sorta close in various ways.

>>4360278
So then why does everything on the n64 look like someone took a blurry shit on my screen?

>>4360916
Comparisons tend to be Heracules/N64 shovelware vs Spyro/Crash.
You should get your eyes checked.

>>4360916
Because you're looking at 240p games upscaled screenshots on your modern PC monitor.

>>4347662
>RPG wrestling game
Well there's a genre that doesn't exist.

>>4360973
Hey look, you're a retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ljMJJlRb8
https://youtu.be/S3LF4tIELpg

>>4356807

well goodwork, its actually really funny.

>>4360913
Everything you said is patrician
>>4359020
kekekekekek
>>4356718
impossible to find equivalent for. nothing really plays quite like it. old school third person PS1 shooters weren't so forgiving on the ammo as SotE was.

>>4350119
thats what a lot of people I've known personally say. must be true, cause i think goldeneye kinda blows

>>4355229

The only point for PSX actually.

>>4347618
Nothing. Poster is salty he can't afford it.

i tried

>>4362846
aw yeah Fucking Kingsley

>>4347513
only 5-10k copies of team buddies ever came out in the usa. i remember trying to get software ect. to get me a copy, and they didn't have it on their pre order list. Then it came out and only got 1 copy and i didn't get it. don't think i've seen that one in person still.

>>4351776
launch dreamcast made all n64 games look like absolute dog shit

>>4364310
wow, only 5-10k copies? Thats crazy how some of these awesome games get such low presses and advertising. If advertised right, Team Buddies could have been the biggest thing on console. Its a nearly perfect game

>>4348059
>some forced ship?
huh?

>>4360278
Textures were a mistake on the Playstation. They only look good in screenshots. (which is why they did it). Untextured was definitely the way to go.

>>4347405
Why are /v/ shitposters moving over to /vr/?