/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4349457
It sucks
Video games werent even good until nes

>>4349469
Home console games did, mostly.
Arcades and computers were great.

>>4349473
No. Not computers either. And OP didn't ask about arcades so why are you even bringing them up?

>>4349457
In my experience it's the opposite, it's mostly millennial hipsters who like the system while grow ups that actually were raised with 8 bit consoles and computers have a hard time adapting to it.

>>4349457
The joystick is horrible. Struggled with it even on games I liked. Paddles feel great though.

>>4349476
I wasn't replying to OP.

Name 10 games for it that haven't been cloned to death and done better by the clones

>>4349457
cause it don't push the pretty graphics that they only play for. millennial scum.
>gen y here. and don't even say "no such thing" there IS and i AM. don't lump ME in with those MElennial ingrates. fuck those guys.

>>4349457
Even by the standards of its time the Atari 2600 was crap. The Colecovision and Intellivision completely blew it out of the water.

Video game consoles also weren't the dominant form of video game medium during this time. They were a distant second to arcades.

>>4349457
they would if atari would somehow be still part of the console business.

>>4349493
It's this. If you're playing a game from the early 80's then you're probably playing an arcade game.

>>4349482
Genesis controllers work

>>4349485
Yar's Revenge
Pitfall!
Keystone Kapers
Adventure
River Raid
Demon Attack
Seaquest
Cosmic Ark
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Jawbreaker

When games are simple it all boils down entirely to gameplay with maybe a tiny bit of audiophile appeal. If a game really nailed down an appealing gameplay mechanic of course it's going to be "cloned" but there are gamers who might prefer the complete simplicity of the bare bones. To that type of gamer who wants to just pop in a cart, flip a switch and immediately start a skill challenge, with a very wide available library the 2600 might be a great choice.

>>4349457
Millennial here('87). The 2600 was my first home console(grew up poor). I have fond memories of it playing asteriods, pac-man, frogger, qbert, etc. When I go back now tho.... it's rough. I can usually last an half hour then I turn it off. It's neat to play every so often for a half hour or so but that's about it.

>>4349482
Has anyone made a 2600 compatible controller that's a real 8-way stick and single button with microswitches? That seems like it would work fantastically for playing 2600 games.

>>4349520
You can build your own arcade stick for 2600 if you want, it has no discrete logic and is just simple pole-to-ground but the Epyx 500xj might be what you're looking for. It's ergonomically designed for right-hand-on-stick though, that's a hurdle for many people.

>>4349501

>>4349537
>dat rapist glove

>>4349540
What is /vr/'s spoiler image supposed to be anyway?

>>4349543
Apparently it's supposed to be Aeris dying. I don't see it, it just looks like gore of some kind.

>>4349476
You said "video games" you schizophrenic fuck

Because it's awful

>>4349493
They were third behind computers, actually.

>>4349457
8 bit computer is better

>>4349457
Large pixels have sharp edges that cut snowflake eyeballs

At least in my country the 2nd gen systems weren't really a thing so I have never even seen a Atari 2600, Intellivision or Colecovision IRL to this day. Out of curiosity I just checked if my local ebay like sites even have these things for sale and no, there weren't any consoles only a handful of games for them.

I however want to buy a 2nd gen system someday even if it makes me a "millennial hipster". If I were to buy one is 2600 the way to go or has the console of the future something in it's sleeve that 2600 doesn't have?

Also which systems have flash carts available for them?

>>4349457
The games just aren't good. We have limited time to play games and I'm not wasting it on 2600 when you can pick any other retro system and it has a much better library.

There are no compelling must play 2600 titles.

>>4349457
>millennials
Buzzword for lazy journalists and scumbag babyboomers who blame everything on the younglings. AFAIK millennials weren't even born when Atari crashed itself.

>>4349473
PC weren't master race until VGA and Soundblaster 16 bit was a thing.

>>4349836
>being this young
he said computers, not pcs

>>4349829
The 2600 has tons of great super simple/pure action games that have infinite replay value, because you can always get a better score.

>limited time to play games

So you should try out as much good stuff as you can, and waving off an entire library is worthless is ridiculous. The 2600 doesn't have any long, drawn out adventure/RPG games, but those are boring as sin if you ask me. What's the point of a long game if there's no reason to play it again once it's over?

>>4349841
>Implying there's a difference
PC doesn't strictly mean IBM compatibles anymore.

>>4349457
Cause it came out nearly 10 years before they where all born. So none of them have any nostalgia for it.

Many of the best titles on the 2600 were arcade ports that have been on any number of systems since then. If you want to emulate something like Asteroids you have no lack of options.

Activision has periodically rereleased their best Atari games in compilations over the years too.

>>4349841
>Macfags
Being this syrian deluded.

something something avocado toast...

>>4349520
https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1077 Easy as fuck to make with real arcade switches and sticks.

Look up harmony cart. It's for the 2600. They made one for the 7800 but it's hard to find and not produced anymore. I think 7800 will play 2600 games, but honestly 2600 is the way to go. I grew up on a 4 switch woodgrain, but I kind of have a soft spot for atari jr. If you don't already, I would suggest you learn to solder (even on scrap electronics). Reason being, when buying used they often need small (and really beginner level stuff) fixes, like the socket on the board where the power plug goes into. Just little things, but shit, for 40 year old consoles, they are doing pretty fucking great.

By default they are rf only, but again, work on your soldering, a composite (or even svideo, rgb) signal is really easy to get. You can make your own or buy a board to do so for like $10.

>>4350259
What do Macs have to do with this? The best computers were from Commodore, Sinclair, and Atari. Apple was always shit and PCs (IBM compatibles) were shit until the 90s.

>>4349823
Buy a 7800 or a Colecovision, they both play 2600 games anyway.

>>4349469
I really like Asteroids, Defender, Stargate, and Joust but yeah really good stuff didn't start popping up commonly until the NES/Famicom era.

I'm a millennial who had a Vic20 and an Atari 2600.

They were honestly not very good and my NES that I got a few years later was much better. The NES had shitty arcade ports, but it had flagship games that not only offered something new but were exclusive to the system. The other systems were the shitty ports.

Don't get me wrong, some of the most fun I had as a kid was arcade ports, like Joust and Double Dragon 2. It wasn't the reason to play games on console.

>>4350771
Colecovision requires an add-on

>>4349457
That would be a garbage console for babyboomer and lesbian seagulls.
Go back to woodstock, atari nerds.
It's no wonder Atari has never released a good console past the 2600.
Sorry your childhood was shit, you should have done acid and played balls, but you decided to stare at a few 5 pixels.

MUH MILLENNIALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>4350185
It never did for anyone but a few dumb kids

>>4349836
Computers games back then used the same memory for graphics and sound, so a smart Developer could have moments of really good audio as long as they limited what was going on onscreen.

This made the games scary as all fuck, because the games would be super quiet, with one or two sound effects, then suddenly a werewolf just pops up onto the scream with scary as fuck sound going, and you won't be able to move again until the sound clip finishes.

>>4349457
Millenials werent even born when it came out

>>4350834
Atari had some of the best computers for games, however.

>>4349457
Games aren't intuitive, they lack things that would later become staples like title screens and music, many of them are multiplayer only, and lack any sort of gameplay depth.

>/vr/ hates moderns consoles because HURR DURR CINEMATIC SHIT
>/vr/ cant handle a console thats literally gameplay in its purest form.

Have you considered the option than most of /vr/ posters are actually fucking faggots?

>>4350924
Most don't even play video games, they come here to shitpost for easy (You)s because the board is so slow and takes the bait.

>>4349457
Late '80s Millennial here, I loved that thing and used to buy games for it at my local game shop about ten years ago.

>>4350924
lol, faggot.

>>4349543
>>4349545
>Aeris dying
Fuck me, I get it now
She's facing left. The upper-left is her brown hair. The spoiler line is Sephiroth's sowrd, stabbing from the upper-right to the lower left

>>4350834

>lesbian seagulls

What did he mean by this?

>>4351082
A Flock Of Lesbian Seagulls

>>4349545
um why would you have a spoiler in a spoiler image? Now I can't play ffvii

>>4351089
once you get past I Ran, they had some decent music

>>4351082
Beavis and Butthead Do America reference.

>>4351825
I Ran is really good, so is Telecommunication. You don't have to hate the popular song because it's popular.

>>4351860
Space Age Love Song and Wishing were tight

Most 2600 games suck, that's why. ESPECIALLY since there are superior versions on other consoles/MAME.

>>4351817
You're not missing out on anything, that game sucks.

>>4350834
>Atari has never released a good console past the 2600

But that's wrong.

>>4352736

I have a XEGS and i love it, but to be fair for 1987 it was obsolete compared to the NES. And all the really good games were on tapes or diskettes, which make it very painful to use. But its a great system that allows you to play most of the 2600/5200 catalog because 90% of the games were ported to this system. And it has composite output so the image comes crystal clear.

>>4352797
>it has composite output so the image comes crystal clear.
Nah, composite is always blurry.

>>4353170

for Atari games you dont need anything higher than composite.

>>4353542
For anything that carries colors, composite just isn't good enough.

>>4349457
>millennials
I bet you think this means people 25 and under or something. People tend to like what they grew up with and don't stray far from it. When you grew up with the NES something like a 2600 seems like it'd be suited for a loading screen minigame, not a full console. It's all perspective and if you grew up with a 2600 then you can appreciate it more due to being there first hand and having that as cutting edge.

>>4349457
I literally can not find a working one irl.

>>4352736
Can you really call it a console when it comes with a keyboard?

>>4349457
Bad system, bad games. What more needs to be said?

>>4353757
The Keyboard is optional.

>>4353559
Speak for yourself, I'm 29 and never even touched a 2600 until maybe 5 or 6 years ago. It very quickly became one of my favorite consoles, it has all sorts of charm. I really like how straightforward most of the games are, but at the same time they're a good challenge. If you don't like early 80s arcade games then you aren't gonna like the 2600, but if you can appreciate the pick up and play style of games from that era then the 2600 is a goddamn joy.

I wasn't raised poor or black in the 90's.

>>4354375
>>>4353559
> Speak for yourself, I'm 29 and never even touched a 2600 until maybe 5 or 6 years ago. It very quickly became one of my favorite consoles, it has all sorts of charm. I really like how straightforward most of the games are, but at the same time they're a good challenge. If you don't like early 80s arcade games then you aren't gonna like the 2600, but if you can appreciate the pick up and play style of games from that era then the 2600 is a goddamn joy.

Found the hipster ebay shiller/collector.

>>4349457
Because the overwhelming majority of the games on it aren't even on par with flash games on newgrounds.

>>4349457
A lot of the good games on the 2600 are arcade ports, but why would I want to play those rather than the actual arcade versions? The original games that are good either have updated ports elsewhere or are in a compilation released for a more readily available system.
Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against the 2600, it's just not for me. If I did proactively like it I'd be labeled as a shitty hipster anyway.

>>4349457
>horrendously bad arcade ports
>graphics a sum total of 4 pixels
Basically, too primitive to be enjoyable unless you grew up with it. I would literally rather play with rocks and sticks
And just because Yars Revenge looked cool doesn't mean that the other 98% of the library wasn't shit

Is a good system to emulate, the whole library is like 10mb, and I like how simple the games are. Pure unadulterated gameplay.

I am 28, and grew up with a atari 2600
Never saw the other 2nd gen consoles around here, which one was the best console of that generation?

>>4354613
>I would literally rather play with rocks and sticks
no you wouldn't faggot kys

>>4349493
And yet, the VCS blew all of them out of the water in sales.

>>4349457
They can't get past the graphical limitations on their own. I've introduced a number to the system and after they actually PLAY it, I haven't found one that dislikes it. That and most seem to be among the Nintendo Revisionist History group that thinks nothing of worth happened prior to NES, in spite of the entire industry being founded around it.