/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4345126
There's already a big thread about the Sega Saturn no need for yet another one.

>>4345126
>any good cheap games, import or otherwise
Bwahahaha

>>4345142
Most of the NTSC-J stuff is pretty cheap. Unless you count Battle Garegga and the likes of it. But he could always just order a Action Replay 4in1 from aliexpress and do the swap trick once and pirate everything

If you're not into shmups, then don't bother.

pirate everything or bend over

>>4345126
>good cheap games

You're a bit late to the party, anon. That time has passed.

>>4345173
This, this isn't 2002 anymore.
Get an action replay or a modchip and pirate away.

>>4345126
Buy a NTSC-J saturn while you are at it I got mine for 0.01USD and only paid for the shipping. Came out a lot cheaper.

>>4345173
op here, i've come to that realization very quickly
>>4345146
I've heard about pirating games, I can figure out how to do it later but do you guys have any recs on blank CDs that won't fuck up your disc drive? Or do any blank CDs work?

Why would you buy a console when you don't even know what you want to play on it?

>>4345256
Just buy a stack of higher end CD-Rs on Amazon. $25 or so on a single spool and you're set. My drive and laser are fine after almost a decade. Play Bulk Slash.

>>4345961
>>4345256
>CD-R's
What's the point? OP may as well be emulating Saturn games on Mednafen.

>>4345142
I don't understand what you mean, all Saturn games cost exactly as much as a CDR does.

>>4345126
>cheap games

i tried installing a phantom universal and the solder got over two dealies instead of on on the bottom of the disc drive, is it going to short it if I leave it like that?

Also trying to do mods while you're drunk is a terrible idea.

>>4346791
quick edit, im sorry

The 5 volt deal on the bottom of the disc drive is what i intended to solder the positive wire to, but i've never really soldered anything before, so it globbed onto another point as well .

I know I'm retarded, can i fix it?

>I also think I fried the mod chip, i was hammered and couldn't get the wire to bind to two of the connections, my extreme anxiety has kept me from looking at it for like 3 months

>>4345126
Sega Rally
Virtua Cop
Virtua Fighter 2
Fighters Megamix
Die Hard Arcade

some good games ive looked into are
baroque
Quake
Iron storm
Command and conquer
Tomb raider
Alien trilogy
Blazing heroes
Shining the holy arc
Dragon force
Robotica
Amok
Crusader: no remorse
Thunderstrike 2
Wing arms
Shellshock
Ghen wars
Star fighter
Battle stations
Black dawn
Battle garegga
Kidou senshi gundam gaiden trilogy (mobile suit gundam side story)
Deadalus
Gungriffon

>>4345142
yes, look at my expensive collection of 100 Saturn games.

>>4346791
>>4346806
Remove the extra glob you put there, chances are you'll have something shorted out.

Just clean your solder tip and let the glob stick to it and repeat. Or get some solder wick.

If you make fuckups like that, post pics of your work so we know what could be wrong with it.

>>4346850
>black saturn
ewww

>>4346850

>Verbatim Datalife

100% patrician.

>>4346850
get a load of this faggot

>>4346946
Yeah I mean why didn't he waste 800 USD on Panzer Dragoon Saga and STG ports.
Shut up and play the damn games

>>4346850
You actually got something to read a philips CD-R?

What is your secret?

>>4346968
Not him but I have a bunch of old Philips CD-Rs from back in the day by various manufacturers Ricoh,Taiyo Yuden etc all were fine

>>4346975
Also now that Taiyo Yudens Optical branch was bought by CMC the search for optical media that's worth a shit continues.
Back in the early 2000s these used to have a great reputation
>Made in UAE
I might just try it for shits and giggles
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-FTI-Falcon-Media-CD-R-80m-Min-700mb-White-Gloss-Inkjet-Printable-120Min-Disc-/282361895965?epid=564835106&hash=item41be149c1d:g:pvoAAOSwTuJYpGfM

>>4346816
Get a model 2 controller pad my man.

>>4346936
>black
That's black and grey (the buttons), it's a PAL model.
Also, are you a faggot?

>>4346968
>What is your secret?

I use proper ccd dumps and burn at 16/24x in Nero or CloneCD. Avoid Imgburn like the plague.

That, and Saturns have indestructible CD drives. As long as you don't intentionally short out one of the chips, and the laser is not completely dead, at worst it'll only need a tiny bit of calibration to be able to read damn near every kind of CDR. I have ones from 1996 that read fine.

>>4346997
Where do you get your hands on the latest trurip dumps anyway?

>>4346994
Yeah they look like shit in comparison to our Cantonese ones.

>>4346936
It's better than the piss yellow that white and grey ones turn into.

>>4346994
PAL models are unironically the best Saturns. They come, out of factory, with the highest quality SCART cables ever made for the system, which also support auto switching.

And they have premade slots on the PCB for adding a 50/60hz switch. You don't have to cut anything or raise pins or anything else - you literally drop in a switch to the pcb and that's it. At worst you have remove some of the solder from the vias, but it is easier If you just heat up the bottom.

>>4347004
>Where do you get your hands on the latest trurip dumps anyway?

?

Just dump your own games in CloneCD.

I actually do have a shelf or two full of games, the CDRs are there only for when I lend my console to my nephews whenever they visit. But for the last year I've just put a Rhea inside, it's simpler.

>>4347009
What kind of a RGB cable does not come with fast switching?

>>4347013
The aftermarket ones use 5V pin, so they switch into widescreen. Very annoying. And they are not as high quality as the official cables anyway, they add audio noise when the screen gets brighter.

>>4346850
This.
Don't be lazy, though. Get a stack of blank white disks, then print the art onto them.

>>4347009
>It's better than the piss yellow that white and grey ones turn into.
Is acquiring this so difficult?

>>4345126
burning rangers and thunder force V. never played em, but've only heard good things since back in the day. probably gon' have to pirate though.

These are kind of fun, would be nice too see some comparisons between Devil Summoner Soul Hackers,Vandal Hearts,Suikoden etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZwPR7ZbOvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quk5cvHcl4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Okk8I-PIvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCGFbOP7CDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOsIymPFK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihtQ6mns14g

>>4347110
>not liking the yellowness of consoles
It's like yellow pages in an old book. It's history in physical form.
I say, if it doesn't interfere with the system's functionality, leave it as is.

>>4346850
depressing

>>4347110
>Is acquiring this so difficult?

Is it too difficult to understand that this a temporary measure at best, and destroy the plastic at worse?

>>4347452
>he finds original hardware depressing
?

>>4346305
this tbqh. You need to test iso's with an emulator before burning to disc. i tried pseodo saturn for a bit but audio was choppy and disc drive would make weird sounds so just use it as memory card now. Was using maxell discs. what discs do you guys use? I want a brand name, anybody can call their discs "high quality"

>>4347502
>Maxell
You can't really go any lower anyway, as of right now JVC Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim AZO

>>4347509
was using another brand prior to maxell that was lower then what you call maxell.

>>4346997
I was using imgburn at 8x. might have to try out nero

>>4347515
While we are at it whats the last non bloat ware version of Nero BurningRom?

>>4347502
>You need to test iso's with an emulator before burning to disc.

Or you can use proper dumps and have no such problems. I haven't used iso/wav since like 2005.

>>4347509
>You can't really go any lower anyway, as of right now JVC Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim AZO

I burn discs on completely random brands and the only time I got a coaster was when I had to use Imgburn on a dual data track game.

The whole "need a high quality CDR" thing only applies to shit consoles that see the discs so badly that having a C2 error makes them unreadable.

Saturn is not like that. A Saturn can sometimes read broken discs (not joking, I had a broken disc in the 90s and I have one now, and both played on my consoles), let alone CDRs.

>>4347524
>"proper dumps"
People throw this term around like we all know where these are located. Where do you get these proper dumps?

>>4347548

Internet Archive. Whole redump collection.

>>4347548
Put the original disc in your CD drive, rip it with CloneCD in game mode. Congratulations! You now have a good dump!

>>4345173
Japan has a lot of cheap saturn games, and some of them you don't need to know runes

>>4345126

Assault Suit Leynos 2

>>4347558
Oh yeah I bet I that was what he was thinking, how to make backups of games he owns. Truly you are a clever one

Guardian Heroes
Fighter Megamix
Sega Rally 2
Astal
Golden Axe: The Duel
Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder

>>4345126
Finished Princess Crown patch when???

>>4347548
You should come to my bathroom
I have loads of proper dumps

>>4347774
>Truly you are a clever one

I buy games, dump them, then sell them for the same price. I lose nothing and got 500+ games so far.

>>4347559
Yeah, but are they actually good? Please name some of these good cheap games, I'm genuinely curious...

>>4346850
thats how i do it. i keep mine in 2 wallets that each hold 96 cds

>>4346997
i use nero or alcohol. and if i burn faster than 4x, i get audio skips. but i havent burned a saturn game in years. i got most of mine off snesorama when it was still around

>>4347838
Not for a while yet, the main guy who was working on that game suffered a personal tragedy last year and the work has been on hiatus until about a month ago. He's working on the game again, but it's probably not going to be out anytime soon (I think the project started around 2013 for reference)

>>4347868
You are losing money on shipping, for one, is your time also worthless to you?

>>4348429
Well I don't know if you can find them for cheap online but I had a trip to Japan last week and I managed to nab a ton of Saturn and other console games for really cheap. (between 90 and 950 yen each)

Here's what a I managed to grab for the Saturn:

Puyo Puyo 2
Puyo Puyo Sun
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtua Fighter Kids
Darkstalkers 2
Darkstalkers 3
Virtua Cop
Gale Racer
Fighting Vipers
X-Men Children of the Atom
Virtual On
Digital DAnce Mix
GunGriffon

Out of all those I'd say maybe only the darkstalkers and x-men aren't easy to find that cheap, got a little lucky there, but all others are very common.

I already had a bunch of saturn games otherwise I would be getting more for pretty cheap, on the top of my head these are the games you'd be able to find for below 1000 yen and common there:

Nights
Christmas Nights
Fighters Megamix
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Fighter Remix
Last Bronx
Deep Fear
Daytona USA
SEGA Rally
D
Enemy Zero
GunGriffon 2
Athlete Kings
Winter Heat
Fatal Frame
And sometimes some SNK fighters were cheap (fatal frame, king of fighters, samurai spirits)
I'd also managed to find Panzer Dragoon for 700 yen once, but that was an oddity

And on top of that, every single goddamn RPG is stupid cheap, and I'm talking between 100 and 500 yen cheap, it's so frustrating seeing them there taunting you with those super cheap cool RPGs, but unfortunately I don't know chinese runes.

>>4348429
Well I don't know if you can find them for cheap online but I had a trip to Japan last week and I managed to nab a ton of Saturn and other console games for really cheap. (between 90 and 950 yen each)

Here's what a I managed to grab for the Saturn:

Puyo Puyo 2
Puyo Puyo Sun
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtua Fighter Kids
Darkstalkers 2
Darkstalkers 3
Virtua Cop
Gale Racer
Fighting Vipers
X-Men Children of the Atom
Virtual On
Digital DAnce Mix
GunGriffon

Out of all those I'd say maybe only the darkstalkers and x-men aren't easy to find that cheap, got a little lucky there, but all others are very common.

I already had a bunch of saturn games otherwise I would be getting more for pretty cheap, on the top of my head these are the games you'd be able to find for below 1000 yen and common there:

Nights
Christmas Nights
Fighters Megamix
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Fighter Remix
Last Bronx
Deep Fear
Daytona USA
SEGA Rally
D
Enemy Zero
GunGriffon 2
Athlete Kings
Winter Heat
And sometimes some SNK fighters were cheap if you were lucky (fatal fury, king of fighters, samurai spirits)
I'd also managed to find Panzer Dragoon for 700 yen once, but that was an oddity

And on top of that, every single goddamn RPG is stupid cheap, and I'm talking between 100 and 500 yen cheap, it's so frustrating seeing them there taunting you with those super cheap cool RPGs, but unfortunately I don't know chinese runes.

How can other start ups even compare?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VtSiaq2o0

>>4348667
>You are losing money on shipping, for one, is your time also worthless to you?

Well technically I don't sell games immediately, but a year or two later, and prices hike up so much that I'm actually making money, not losing.

Like, I bought SF Collection for around $20, but it's worth $60 today if I were to sell it.

>>4345126
Anyone got a good reason why the Dreamcast wasn't backwards compatible with Saturn games?

>>4349402
Do you think backwards compatibility is just a checkbox you tick? Dreamcast shares no hardware with the saturn

>>4349402

Wanting to make the general public forget it ever existed? Sad, I know. But typical of a knee-jerk Sega.

My Saturn collection

>>4349664
>those gargantuan oversized cases
Whoever thought this was a good idea can go fuck himself.

>>4349668

no bully ;-;

>>4349671
It's a nice collection but I truly dread those oversized boxes.

>>4349673
Yeah the cases suck and they break easily.
My favorite game of the lot... not for it's collectible value, but for the memories it carries

>>4348667
>You are losing money on shipping, for one

I sell games for twice the price I buy them, due to inflation.

I actually make money on this.

>>4349664
>PDS
>no PD1 or 2

>>4349798
At the time, my best friend also had a Saturn. He had both of those games so I didn't buy them.

CDRs.