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What's the best STG on Dreamcast other than Ikaruga

>> No.4342724

Bang Guys Yo

>> No.4343219
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4343219

Mars Matrix.

>> No.4343805

>>4343219
I suspected that was the answer, am I wrong to find it a tad difficult

>> No.4343824

Giga Wing is pretty fun and a fine entry into the bullet hell genre

>> No.4343832
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>>4342724
This

>> No.4343881

>>4342724
>>4343832
Not an STG, is a twin-stick free-roaming action-platformer.

OP, check out Karous if you like Ikaruga, along with the rest of Milestone's games.

>> No.4343907

I will never understand why English speakers will try and get other English speakers to call them STGs using objectively incorrect English simply because Japanese people suck at abbreviations.

I get that "shoot em ups" isn't exactly flashy but ShooTing Games is just as unflattering and grammatically wrong to boot.

Anyways sorry for shitposting, Gradius is king.

>> No.4344023

>>4343907
It doesn't stand for ShooTing Games, it stands for Shoot Them Gooks.

>> No.4344040

>>4343881
>twin stick

Lol. Anyways, stgs aren't limited to auto-scrollers. Bangai-O is an stg in the Asteroids tradition.

>> No.4344056

>>4343907
I have an old friend who gets upset if I call them shmups and insists I call them shooters and nobody else knows what I'm talking about when I call them shooters so I just call them scrolling aerial genocide simulators.

>> No.4344072

>>4344056
I'd easily accept SAGS as a term over STG any day of the week.

>> No.4344092

>>4344056
>You use to be able to call them shooters until FPS naturally took that name

>> No.4344132

>>4344040
It plays just like a twin-stick shooter, and if you play the Xbox 360 entry, you can actually use two analog sticks.

>stgs aren't limited to auto-scrollers.
In this context they are. Unless you think Bangai-O and Ikaruga should belong in the same genre, which would be a bit retarded.

>Asteroids
That's a gallery shmup, and nothing like Bangai-O.

>> No.4344253

>>4343805
> am I wrong to find it a tad difficult

Not at all, but that's part of the fun.

Learn to use that gravity hole attack so you get many cubes as possible and increase your shot level faster.

>> No.4344261

>>4343907
It's mostly because STG sounds much better than "shmup", which is an absolutely repulsive sounding word. I just say "shooting games" because the two or three people I ever talk about them with IRL know what I'm saying.

>> No.4344262

>>4342720
ikaruga is fucking WANK, border down,psyvariar 2,under defeat,giga wing 2 i'll take long before that piece of fucking shit for hipster scum cunts.

>> No.4344279

>>4343881
>Not an STG, is a twin-stick free-roaming action-platformer.
>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%88%86%E8%A3%82%E7%84%A1%E6%95%B5_%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC
>『爆裂無敵バンガイオー』(ばくれつむてきバンガイオー)は、1999年9月3日にESPから発売されたNINTENDO64用2Dシューティングゲーム。
>シューティングゲーム

>>4344132
>In this context they are
In the context of you being an autistic retard?

>> No.4344281

>>4342720
Borderdown

>> No.4344285

>>4344056
How old is this friend? I'm 42 and they've always been shmups. Was cemented when seuck came out on the c64.

>> No.4344654

>>4342720
Under Defeat.

>> No.4344681

>>4343881
Bangai-O says "Shooting Game" on its cover.
STG means Shooting Game, right? Bangai-O is a STG.

>> No.4344682

>>4344279
>In the context of you being an autistic retard?
are you the same guy who said bangaio is like asteroids

>> No.4345236

>>4344279
Citing Wikipedia doesn't automatically make you right. Anyone can edit those pages.

>In the context of you being an autistic retard?
Nor does ad hominem, lad.

Bangai-O is more a run 'n gun than STG, deal with it.

>> No.4345270

>>4345236
>lad
Why do people do this so much? It doesn't ever help you.

Anyways, Treasure called it an STG. They overrule your trolling.

>> No.4345280

Border Down,Under Defeat, Mars Matrix, Cannon Spike, Trizeal, ang giga wings 1 and 2.

>> No.4345285
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>> No.4345301

>>4345270
Japan calls anything with shooting, even FPS, "STG", though. It's not a valid source for defining what really is a shmup.

>> No.4345302

Cannon Spike
Border Down

>> No.4345370

>>4345301
The game is made in Japan so I'm happy using their categories. You can have your own if you want, but that's for you.

>> No.4345380

>>4344285
He's about the same age as you. I'm guessing it's a regional difference similar to "pop" and "cola." I had largely heard the term shoot 'em up growing up myself, and I'm 35.

>>4344092
What, you mean Doom Clones? Pretty sure they're just a passing fad.

>> No.4345481

>>4345370
>I'm happy using their categories.
That's fine but you shouldn't expect other people to follow along with their broken Engrish

>> No.4345498

>>4345481
I don't care if idiots can't follow so it sounds like we're all good.