/vr/ - Retro Games

75% of the games you played aren't retro, take this shit to /v/.

>>4331384
>current state of /vr/

Only the first Silent Hill game is retro. We can't discuss the rest of the series here. Please see the sticky. Also, this isn't /vg/

>>4331389
I see other posts here about post 1999 games on PS2 and GC, like the Resident Evil threads. I figured Silent Hill could be posted. I guess I'll take this to /vg/ since /v/ is pure shit when it comes to video game discussions.

>>4331407
>I see other posts here about post 1999 games on PS2 and GC, like the Resident Evil threads

Are you referring to remakes? We can talk about remakes of retro games on non-retro platforms. But we can't start generals with the pretense of discussing a bunch of non-retro sequels. If you see something like that, just report it.

/vg/ would be a better suited for discussing Silent Hill at series length.

if 4 didn't have the escort mission, and the second time you went through the same areas it was their otherworld versions with darkness and a flashlight, it would've been a great game
1 and 3 are my favourites, 2 is good but more melancholy than creepy - not enough enemy variety either, just mannequins and patients

>>4331434
I finished 1 last week and it was creepy at first, then it washed out (I mean, like most of horror games at the end you toughen up) but I saw some images from 2 and decided to not play it for now, is 3 even scarier than 2????

>>4333278
I found SH2 slightly scarier, but SH3 has plenty of unsettling moments. Best playing these games in the dark with the TV volume high.

>>4333278
well fear is subjective, sh2 is the most well received in the franchise so you should give it a shot eventually
I played these games when they came out and 2 was my least favourite, but that's just me, I also found the enemy that basically became the mascot for the franchise kinda goofy
when I was playing 3 at one point I felt like my mind was under assault, like I had to stop playing and watch something like teletubbies
1 was really creepy, but it was also my first and all the gameplay mechanics (otherworld, fog, flashlight etc) were new to me

What was Konami thinking when they dismantled Team Silent?

>>4333447

That survival horror was dying.

If Team Silent had been re-assembled to release a Silent Hill 5 on next-gen consoles, it may have had a great critical reception but wouldn't have sold well.

>>4333456
No one can predict that

>>4333543
BUT IT WAS FORETOLD BY GYROMANCY

>>4331380
In SH4 you would have been better if you let her locked in a room without monsters, once finished go back to her and that would do it. The only thing to take a look would be the ghosts, impairing them with the sword or landing a silver bullet should do it so they don't screw your gameplay for a while. If I were to advance I would pick up the sword before going forward, that would do it when you had to deal with severals ghosts.

>>4331384
>make ps2 game thread on /v/
get 3 replies and it prunes
>make ps2 game thread on /vr/
It gets 20 replies 5 of which from autistic dudes getting triggered then it gets deleted

Legit cant talk about the 2nd greatest gen of video games on 4chin

>>4331384
>>4331389
>>4331416
When can we report posts for autism? It's not a rule violation or illegal content, but it's fucking retarded

>>4331384
This. /v/ is right there. If you can't take it you should find another site. But trying to talk about whatever you want because yoy want it is retarded. Plenty if places you can talk about SH4. /vr/ isn't one of them.

Stick to the first game or repost your thread somewhere else.

>>4335146

>>4335251
> It's not a rule violation or illegal content

You kind of answered your own question.

>>4335251
>>4335364
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

>>4335251
The problem is that ps2 era games aren't cool right now. /vr/tards (ie, autistic old virgins and or redditor scumbag "retro" gamers)don't care because ps2 games don't align with their autoism and fads.
/v/tards don't care because its not new and shiny.

What needs to happen is a new gaming board needs to be made. Basically a /v/ containment board, corralling all the shitposting into one place. /vr/ should be abandoned to the fadders and retards and /v/ should be mformactual videogame discussion for all gens. Of course that would require very strict mods to work,but I'd be game.

Either that or just continue telling people they're annoying ass holes when they post "take this to /v/"

>>4331416
You're straight up retarded.

>>4335146

/vr/ is not responsible for /v/ being shit

>>4331380
>What did you guys think of this series?

That most of them are not retro
>>>/v/
>>>/vg/

>>4335380
>/vr/ - Retro Games

You're a straight up idiot who lacks basic reading comprehension. Don't bother trying to convince yourself otherwise.

>>4335385
Neither v or vr are shit. They're all 4chan. You love it or you don't, but trying to pretend vr is or should be fundamentally different from v is ridiculous.

Stay if you want but know you're a fish.

>>4335376
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>4335380
these are the type of posts we'd get more of if we allowed 6th gen here
angrily screaming about autistic old virgins, fadders, retards and hipsters like some wounded rabbid animal
in other words, it'd be exactly like /v/

>>4335415
Its one of the rules, your post should be deleted as per it.

Having played the PS2 versions the HD collection seems fine to me, I don't get the hate.

>>4331384
>>4331389
Dude there is a morherfucking Xbox thread on here that also talks about GameCube and PS2 and no one said a ducking thing so fuck off

>>4335441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqJ2EA0DTP8

>>4335441
This is enough of a reason.

>>4335513
Is that comic sans?

>>4335414

/vr/ is fundamentally different from /v/ in the sense that /vr/ is exclusively for the discussion of retro games, do you not understand the concept of boards?

we have FOUR different boards for video games and still people want more because they can't start a thread for their specific console of choice

>>4335521
I was talking about the board cultures but it's not surprising you pretended not to understand so you could whine more.

4chan is 4chan. V and vr are two peas in a pod. Coming here and then bitching that you're on 4chan is retarded.

>>4335521
Dont worry, once we get our ps2 threads here you will still be able to have your nth Zelda OOT thread. Dont worry.

Are we really bitching about if retro or not? Just take the fucking thread and discuss games. If the janitors think it is not retro, which are actually the only opinions that matter, they will delete this thread

>>4331384
Kill your fucking self for real now, shitting on any of the 4 first silent hill is a crime punished by death. I can even make a thread about silent hill on /pol/ if I want to. And the mods will SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ELSE!!!

>>4333447
Gambling and pachinko

>>4335143
Eileen's condition worsens when you leave you alone for a long period of time. I remember I left her in one of the trains with that long haired ghost because she was slowing me down and getting me killed. Once I acquired the items to get to the door exiting the level, I had to run back and get her to progress further into the game.

I tried the holy candle trick on her right before the final boss fight but it didn't work. I even threw the 8 spears into the monster at the end before Eileen walked into the pool of blood and she still died, at that point I said "fuck this shit" and accepted the bad ending. Atleast I got a good ending on the first 3 games that matter.

>>4336053
***When you leave her alone

>>4335441
HD collection got rid of the rusty/bloody environments, the new voice acting sucks, the fog is missing, some of the creepy sounds are missing, rooms are a lot brighter making the flashlight almost redundant.

anyone have that pic of harry standing on a street light? asking for a friend

>>4333447
Something along the lines of DURRR we uar letarded japarese idiotuu!! Letsu do somu rretardu shituu!!!

Fuck them for everything they ever did to the franchise. From dismantling Team Silent only to hire shitty developers for no reason, to canceling Silent Hills for no reason.

>>4335441
The HD collection is not fine. Everything about the game has been turned to shit, you can't miss it

>>4331384
>>4331389
Fuck off

>>4337376
Don't blame them because you can't read the rules you stupid little shit.

>>4331380
/v/ Silent Hill threads are rather civil, mate.

>>4337419
He's a snowflake who wants to post on 4chan but is afraid of most of the site

>>4337403
No you. The janitor deleted 90% of the shitposts in this thread arguing it doesn't belong here. Look at the archive.

>>4337506
You're still purposefully posting on the wrong board.

okay, about to play SH.
Im eager to continue with the series after I finish it, preferably on my couch and with my PS3 as well.
The thing is technically the HD Collection is a comfy as fuck options (my PS2 died long ago and I don't want to emulate it) but of course I already rode how terrible it is.
My question is, is it really THAT bad? I mean, is obviously weaker than the original, but can it stand as a game? I watched that clip with a comparasion of voice acting, happily open to see how it sucks and...shit. It looks better to me.
Perhaps is the same with other stuff.
tl;dr knowing it is a crappier version, and thinking about playing the original one day, can the HD remake stand as a game itself?

>>4338359
YES, DOWNLOAD THE PC VERSION YOU FUCKING IDIOT DON'T PLAY THE HD ONE IT'S COMPLETE SHIT

>>4331434

You can just run and leave Eileen in a safe room, then explore the level by yourself. When you clear the path, just go back to her.

>>4338359
I'm sure the HD Collection may seem fine to you, having no reference to compare against the original.

However Silent Hill is a series about immersion and atmosphere, and the originals were done by perfectionists as opposed to the collection which was done on contract by a literal mobile game studio.

I shudder at the thought of someone experiencing SH2 and 3 for the first time from the Collection. There's a reason why SH is such a big name and there's a reason why we are still here discussing games from the early 2000's, and the Collection just shits all over that

>>4338359
Yes, it really is that bad. Missing sounds, missing and badly altered textures, the new voice acting is garbage, hardly any fog, badly remixed music in some areas, and frame rate issues, especially in SH3.

The PC versions of SH2, 3, and 4 are all perfectly good ways to play those games, and look and run better than the HD collection does (HD collection runs at 720p while PC versions can do 1080p and higher)

>>4338359
Oh, and the source code Konami had on file for 2 and 3 were beta versions of the games, so both games have way more glitches than the final PS2/PC versions had, on top of everything else.

>>4338359
>>4338396
>>4338387
okay, you guys achieved what a lot of 1vs1 comparaison clips and countless rants couldn't achieve. I will try to hook up the pc to the tv and try the pc version. It's a shame they don't have a fucking digital version on PSN or whatever.
>I shudder at the thought of someone experiencing SH2 and 3 for the first time from the Collection
okay pal, you made it

I'm glad I got to experience the rest of the series on PS2. I almost caved in and bought the HD collection but I found someone selling 2,3,4 as a bundle for cheap since eBay wanted nearly $200 for them. It's such an excellent horror series. Lately I've been listening to the OST that came with SH3 and plan on learning some songs on guitar. It's a shame what Konami did to the series.

>>4331384
Go suck yourself, dotard.

>>4338438

>>4338438
Here are the SH PC links
SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk

SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8

SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE

SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE

SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c

SH4 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!Us1XTaII!cglH0dZOaH5yQEm4cnEh3eyUz4bIf6rACQqcVzkb4Hc

Mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" is a all-in-one fix, that works as a no-cd crack as well. It is included in the pack.
If you use the NEW fix mentioned in the guide, you can use the sh2proxy's EXE as the no-cd crack!

In case you experience issues saving the game / not being able to edit the disp.ini, make sure the files aren't set to "Read Only", and run the game as Administrator.
If SH2 gets stuck in a black screen upon launch, close it and re-start it again.
If SH3 runs like shit even on a strong PC, check and lower the Rendering Resolution setting.

SH2-4 do not support Xinput gamepads. Either use Xpadder, a DirectInput pad, or just play with KB+M.
You can now see some decent emulator settings for SH1 as well in the guide. If the image of the game does NOT fill your entire screen in fullscreen mode, check your plugin AND GPU control panel's image scaling settings!
Also give the new PGXP emulator a shot for a lot less wobbly PS1 graphics.

>Protips
-Play in the release order.
-Never play below Normal difficulty.
-Replaying them all is recommended.
-Turn down the ingame Brightness setting,
-Don't try to kill everything that moves, especially outdoors.
-Turning OFF the flashlight can really help.

>>4338845
>Silent Hill 2, 3 & 4
That's not retro.

>>4338870
The guy said he was going to play them. You should really be insulting the guy for not posting the downloads and updated guide

>>4338869
>turning off the flashlight helps
Except you need it to read maps and interact with items, otherwise the character says it's too dark to see

>>4338870
Fucking kill yourself, it's relevant to the thread

>>4339048
Yeah because the thread is about a bunch of non-retro games. Why didn't he just post it on /v/ which is the right board?

Are we going to start having FFXV and SFV threads now too?

>>4339048
>PS2 vs HD
>totally retro relevant to the thread
>tells us to go fuck ourselves

Millennial retards in action

>>4339191
At what point does PS2 become retro? Another 5 years or when the next PlayStation console comes out?

>>4340293
Well considering retro doesn't mean how this board uses it, it's completely arbitrary. All that matters is the description in the board rules.

>>4339048
LOL You got anger issues. You should go to anger management therapy before that anger lands you in jail, virgin.

>>4339191
>Millenial Retards in action
Pretty much.

>>4340293
When it goes back in time and gets released in 1999 or earlier.

We're here to talk about games from a specific period of time; it will never change. If you want a /vr2/ to discuss 2010 and earlier games, ask for it, that's how we got this board.

>>4340704
Didn't they make the Dreamcast retro because of the new console generation though?

>>4340704
Yet people still talk about games like Resident Evil Code Veronica, Morrowind, and FF9 all the time on here.

>>4340704
That doesnt make any sense. What is retro is constantly changing, every year games get older

>>4340704
>ask for it, that's how we got this board.
No we didn't, this board just came from out of nowhere

>>4339191
>>4340681

Pretty sure everyone on this board is a millennial, including you guys. The shit this board ascribes to millennials makes absolutely no sense. It's like some kind of boogeyman.

Running this on PCSX-R tonight, but the image keeps messing up for me, the corners of the image are cut off.

>>4340706
No we were always jockeying for DC to be allowed. It shouldn't have ever not been allowed as it was clearly released before 2000.

>>4340723
You mean console games on retro consoles? Yeah, what the fuck is up with that.

>>4340736
Yes we did ask for this.

>>4340724
It doesn't matter how far away a specific period of time gets from the present, it still will not contain events from peroids outside of its boundaries.

>>4337419
that's entirely dependent on what time of day he posts a thread though

>>4338359
>I watched that clip with a comparasion of voice acting, happily open to see how it sucks and...shit. It looks better to me.

Wrong. The new voice acting is shit. It's all dumbed down and horrible. If someone prefers the new voice acting, they are automatically proven too stupid to understand the characters, stories and psychology behind the games themselves. The new voices are objectively bad.

>>4343205
Are you for real?

>>4343205
look, some other anons already convinced me (and people like you are exactly the reason I had my doubts)
As I said, I watched this clip prepared to see how hard they fucked things up (even the edition of the video is playfully oriented to that) and sorry, it is recorded way better and the voice direction and the actors are just way more professional:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GKtsHcJOMI
I totally assume they could have ruined the essence of the game having weird lines delivered by almost non-professional actors, making all the tone look pretty surreal, or how objetively improving techincal elements of the game can fuck up the core experience, that's what happens with The Twin Snakes, with a new camera that completely makes obsolete and redundant all that amazing level design of MGS. BUT you can also understand that shit of a game has better production values and better character models or whatever.
But hey, after all this is just me makings things up, since you are unable to actually prove your fucking point by giving me reasons.

>>4342905
They are all after 2000 how does that make sense whenever you mention something else from after 2000 you get the fucking retro gestapo come in and shit up a decent discussion with THATS NOT RETRO because they have literally nothing else to contribute to the thread and need to protect their safe space

>>4338869
Thanks for the links and info.

>>4331384
you are hyper retarded
>>4338870
yes it is if you went outside you woyld realize its 2017 out there. get out of your little world where everything is 2007 still neet boy.
>>4331380
4 is the best truly amazing.

I just finished the Good ending of the first game. Before I figured I'd go back through for the rest of the endings but honestly, I'm kind of not feeling it cause the gameplay itself isn't all that good and the suspense is less when I know exactly where to go and what to do.

I'll still probably go back to it eventually so for then I'd like to know, is there any reason to do more than 1 New Fear or can I just make a separate save at key points and reload there to save time?

>>4346179
That's why I replay horror games once a year, usually in October, so the suspense feels almost as fresh as the first playthrough.

Although, I thought about replaying SH3 after finishing it just a week ago.

>>4340681
your autism is amazing

>>4344673
>"Professional"

>>4335514
It's close enough

>>4344673
>deep voiced Mary that sounds exactly like Maria
>Eddie that slurs everything he says and shows no emotion
>Phantom of the Opera James
Are you high?

so Im playing through SH1 for the first time for halloween, havent gotten very far. Have to get to the elementary school

Am I supposed to be ignoring fights, so I can conserve ammo/health drinks? I guess I can avoid the bats, but the bat things swoop in from nowhere

Is the knife from the diner supposed to be shit? Im assuming its not the same as a knife only RE run

>>4347837

>I can avoid the bats

the dogs*

>>4347837
>Am I supposed to be ignoring fights, so I can conserve ammo/health drinks?
Yes. Try not to fight while on the streets.

>Is the knife from the diner supposed to be shit?
Yes. If you're ever in a situation where you really have to rely on it, accept death.

>>4347837
>Is the knife from the diner supposed to be shit
harry is actually pretty good with the knife, he can move and stab shit at the same time unlike anyone in RE
the monsters are also more nimble though so you're better off with the pipe
also run while outdoors, fight while indoors - golden rule of silent hill

>>4347912
>run outdoors, fight indoors
I fought outdoors anyways because I wanted to explore the town and examine things without having to run around and avoid monsters. I did the same thing in the other games. Except for SH4, you had to rush through the maps because of those invincible ghosts, otherwise you get gang raped.

>>4331380
es muy bueno

>>4347981
i'm playing it for the first time. I just came to the school. I am really loving the game, but I feel very bland the idea of dogs and pterosaurs as the standard enemies in the streets. I could understand the dogs, or some creepy human form/shadow/whatever. But why the dinobats?

>>4331380
>What did you guys think of this series? Any favourite moments?
The only /vr/ sh is one dragged me into the "Low poly love cave", because of gritty low poly visual and beautiful strong atmosphere.
Second one is probably the best one. Played PS2 version recently and I like it even more now. Atmosphere is kinda more subtle atmosphere, and the things you should be afraid of are no longer 80s american horror cliche.
Third SH was a mistake. Fancy graphics, but ultimately feels like a game made specifically for fans.
Fourth SH is my first love, the first (and so far, the only) game with proper fell of feverish dream. Powerful, wonderfully heartbreaking end of the series (because european SHs are not exist).

>>4349262
>ultimately feels like a game made specifically for fans.
What's wrong with that exactly? Didn't the series go to shit after SH4 because it was made by developers that didn't understand the story and just turned it into a generic horror game with cheap jump scares to attract a wider audience who are new to the series?

>>4350502
>What's wrong with that exactly?
Well, because instead of going wild with another altered silent hill they just dump all resources in the sequel to game that do not need any kind of sequel at the first place.
The whole story is dull, because "uh we need to squeeze the shit out of original SH story" and despite some really good visuals and rare spine-chilling moments, the whole thing feels just like some boogie-boo theme park.