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>Bill Heineman
>starts his career programming Bards Tale 3 and Tass Times in Tonetown
>ports Another World to SNES among various other ports
>took to storing hamburgers in his desk for years, earning the nickname Burger Bill
>id Software charges him to port Wolfenstein 3D to SNES
>id also sells the engine rights to Wisdom Tree because they thought Wolfenstein turning into a Noah's Ark game was fucking hilarious
>Wisdom Tree quickly releases Super 3D Noah's Ark, a legend to this day
>Burger Bill does fucking nothing at all because he neglected to mention his contract with Interplay, and subsequently gets humiliated and fired
>does nothing worth mentioning for a decade
>ends up becoming a fanfiction.net regular, writing autistic madness based on Sailor Moon and Ace Ventura
>two years later decides he's actually a woman and changes his name to Rebecca
>is currently the author of an autismal fanfiction webcomic called Sailor Ranko

Is there a more colossal /vr/ fuckup than Burger Bill?

>> No.4336674
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>>4336671
>writing autistic madness based on Sailor Moon and Ace Ventura
Sounds fun, any link?

>> No.4336675

How is that a fuckup? Your story basically amounts to "and then was fired over contracts".

That's hardly a real fuckup, especially because iD has REAL fuckups in its history.

>> No.4336679

it's almost like videogames attracts the mentally deranged, who woulda thunk

>> No.4336680

>>4336674
Here's his website is burgerbecky.com
I'm sure fanfiction.net has whatever he's missing.

>> No.4336682

>>4336675
It was the virtual lack of doing anything worthwhile after a promising start I'm looking for. It's clear Bill is a fair example of JUST. This thread's about others who also failed in the industry.

>> No.4336683

>>4336675
What happened at ID

>> No.4336685

>>4336675
Becky got fired from her last 2 jobs because of incompetence from what I've heard from people in the industry, she spent so much time writing sailor moon fanfiction and focusing on depression, she didn't have time to be with the times, thus is cited as being unable to learn new code and shit. That said, her previous achievements were nice and she is a rather cool gal.
If we want to talk about actually serious and colossal /vr/ fuckups... look no further than the Boppin' "lady"

>> No.4336686

>>4336675
More like "an then started taking hormones and writing fanfics about his original character"
Also
>accepting a job that you should know conflicts with the contract you signed
>not a fuckup

>> No.4336689
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>>4336683

Not knocking the guy's successes, but he's a fuckup.

>> No.4336691

>>4336685
>If we want to talk about actually serious and colossal /vr/ fuckups... look no further than the Boppin' "lady"
Interested.

>> No.4336692

>>4336689
Why is he such a pussy now

>> No.4336694

>>4336689
>rich to this day
>recently made a sweet-ass doom map
>doting father who helped his son make his first game recently
Feels like he recovered from Daikatana honestly.

>> No.4336695 [DELETED] 

>>4336682
lmao so cringe dude xD heehee

what are you leafy or some shit.

>> No.4336701 [DELETED] 

>>4336695
Jesus Christ, Bill, what the hell possessed you to come to 4chan of all places?

>> No.4336704

>>4336694

I didn't know about the son's game. Being a good father is one of the very few things somebody can do to recover from being a fuckup.

I'm still going to call him a fuckup. Daikatana ruined my brother's birthday party when we all sat down to play it.

>> No.4336705

>>4336691
This part should explain all you really need to know. Say what you want about Becky, but she's just a clumsy geek
http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/To_Save_Her#Author_biography
>>4336689
Yeah, Romero's a bigger fuckup than Becky in my eyes.
>Did cool things with iD
>Left
>Hyped up his own company and game
>Turned out to suck
>"He will never go on to do anything notable ever again"
>Time Magazine is arguably right as no one gives a single shit about any game he worked on after Daikatana, except for a few doom maps
>Fled country because of election salt
>Working on game for kickstarter that is set to be Daikatana 2.0 and might not even come out, as it has all the warning signs of a bad kickstarter

>> No.4336707

>>4336704
>Daikatana ruined my brother's birthday party when we all sat down to play it.
Jesus Christ. My condolences.

>> No.4336716

>>4336705
>Turned out to suck
Least it had Deus Ex

>> No.4336718

>>4336716

That dev may as well have been a different company.

>> No.4336719 [DELETED] 

>>4336671

if that was actually a woman I'd fuck her

>> No.4336720

>>4336716
Yeah, a game that Romero barely had involvement on, and eventually Ion Storm went under. Afterwards, Romero made some 2D overhead game no one played or bothers talking about with his then wife, and then a Cartoon network game for GBA.
Meanwhile, Becky was mostly just busy working at EA or something, and blogging about it on livejournal

>> No.4336723 [DELETED] 

>>4336719

Like, because of her history in video games or something?

>> No.4336724

>>4336716
Don't forget Anachronox and Thief Deadly Shadows.
Hell, the only really bad games Ion Storm made were Invisible War and Daikatana.

>> No.4336726 [DELETED] 

>>4336723
Bill's somewhat passable in that picture, but that could just be a good photo.

>> No.4336728 [DELETED] 

>>4336719
>>4336726
If you saw her livestreams, you'd know she's really not attractive at all.
I still sorta stand my view that Burger is alright.

>> No.4336729

>>4336724
>Thief 3
>not bad

>> No.4336731 [DELETED] 

>>4336723

I've got a fetish for mature hispanic woman.

>> No.4336737 [DELETED] 

>>4336728
Maybe if he did anything but write fanfiction and port shit.

>> No.4336738

>>4336729
I find it reasonable to play Thief 3 to the end. I can't say the same for Invisible War and Daikatana.

>> No.4336740 [DELETED] 

>>4336737
You'd be surprised at how many people in the vidya industry who have done similar like her, have also done fanfiction, they're just not as vocal as her.
And again, she's not legitimately horrible like Jennifer, as I've stated many posts before.

>> No.4336758

>>4336671
>lost a port race against Wisdom Tree
kek

>> No.4336785

>>4336705
>This part should explain all you really need to know. Say what you want about Becky, but she's just a clumsy geek
>http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/To_Save_Her#Author_biography

What is it about game devs and sex changes?

>> No.4336805

>>4336671
I knew this would just be weak ass trans trolling at the end of the day.

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>>4336805
Have you considered switching to a trans-friendly site?

On topic, pic related was in charge of the first two Zelda CD-I games.

>> No.4336817 [DELETED] 

>>4336785
who doesn't change their sex these days? come on, it's 2018

>> No.4336824

>>4336816
Why would he need to? Are you upset that someone called out trolling for what it is?

Maybe you should go to a site more friendly to your own needs? It's trivial to turn your post on its head.

>> No.4336828

>>4336824
>Why would he need to?

Did you just assume their gender?

>> No.4336829

>>4336828

Yeah, cause he's got a penis regardless of orientation cause he's on a retro board.

>> No.4336830

>>4336824
>assuming genders in the current year
>>>/hugbox/

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>>4336816
Anna Roth outdid the fuck out of him when she turned this in as a full game.

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>>4336689
JUST

>> No.4336841

>>4336816
This place traditionally has been, I'm not leaving because bitchy little trolls can't take it. You're the one who came to the land of Linetrap.

I'm just saying I'm not surprised.

>> No.4336850

>>4336841
Bailey sexually identifies as male, but nice try.
Take it to /gif/ or contribute to the thread.

>> No.4336851

>>4336840
This is a joke, r-right?

>> No.4336852

>>4336850
That's cool. If you didn't understand you're literally retarded and yeah I like /gif, I like all of 4chan.

>> No.4336854

>>4336851

That's a real ad.

If you don't know about Daikatana, look it up. It's one of the most embarrassing things to have ever happened in video games.

>> No.4336858

>>4336850
Ohh and me pointing out that this whole thread is just a thinly veiled excuse for you to whine about trans issues is contributing. It's a troll thread lol

>> No.4336883 [DELETED] 

>>4336685
Calling a he/she "her."
Gives validation to freaks with chemical imbalances that make them thing they're another gender or other identity problems.
SJW detected.

>> No.4336884 [DELETED] 

>>4336883
>social justice is bad
Okay hillbillynazi

>> No.4336892 [DELETED] 

>>4336883

You sound like you got chemical imbalances.

>> No.4336901 [DELETED] 

>>4336883
I'm not an SJW, and anyone who knows Becky would know that she's pretty much probably a closet 4chan user, and really out of all the tranny game devs, she's probably one of the ones who barely virtue signals, and mostly just spends time making dumb jokes on twitter not giving a shit. I remember that during the election, she very well made silly jokes about both candidates. The only real SJWs around Becky are the people who think Burger means more just because "Trans game dev!", ignoring that there are much better ones who probably did more than just dumb ports, if Becky didn't bother releasing source code and talking about game dev, no one would have given a single shit about her.
>>4336884
>unironically liking Social Justice
Now I'm convinced you're the same anon bringing up an argument in this thread for no reason

>> No.4336913 [DELETED] 

>>4336901
That's the first I mentioned that but this is a troll thread. Being against social justice will never not be hilarious to me. All hail President Sex Criminal, right Cleetus?

>> No.4336918 [DELETED] 

>>4336883
>being mad at something as insignificant like gender
Check your chemical imbalance nigger

>> No.4336934 [DELETED] 

>>4336785
>>4336817
A lot of these transitions were decades ago, and you'd be surprised at how many men of the 70s tech/early vidya dev era decided to be women for whatever reason. Jenni is just a fucking liar though, and really is a man as he lied on the test and encouraged others to do the same to make life changing decisions that could end in suicide, and on top of that threatened critics of his work. At least Becky eventually grew beyond that and over all would be a nice one to have a burger with as Becky has better things to do than live in a fantasy world of her fanfictions all day as in the end it's just a side hobby to vent out (and to my knowledge, hasn't touched Sailor Ranko in a long ass time, only casually mentioning it now, but then again I barely check her twitter), Jenni would probably be an insane asshole who would do nothing but brag about his shitty ass ugly webcomics and shitty pretentious misanthropic pony fanfiction, and how everyone who hates his stuff is horrible.

>> No.4336941

>>4336805
You know, at the point you posted this in the thread (I'm not done reading all the comments yet) I haven't seen anything offensive towards trans. I've seen people disparaging Becky's work, but not the decision to have a sex change. Might want to really think about what is being said in this thread.

Just saying. But also, maybe you want to find a more friendly site to go to, because 4chan shits on everything, not just you.

>> No.4336943

Romero is the most obvious answer, but it's not like his career really suffered. The douchebag went on to be successful regardless.

>> No.4336947

>>4336841
4chan has NEVER been a friendly site, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There are small instances, but as a whole 4chan tends to be caustic, no matter what hobby is involved.

>> No.4336951

>>4336941

At the point you were reading this thread, several posts had already been deleted.

Also OP can barely justify Heineman as a fuckup. It's literally just a post shitting on her lifestyle, with a contract dispute that can just as easily happen to normal people to top it off.

>> No.4336952

>>4336941
Haven't really seen that many people really shit on Becky too much, besides the whole "She's heralded as legendary, despite doing okay ports" thing. Anyone who has a problem with Becky, the problem is usually related to her lazy work ethic, nothing about her transition though that did end in a divorce, and her ex-wife got the kids, but they were adults by that point

>> No.4336963

>>4336951
>Did nothing but ports
Brought up by multiple people.
>Burger Bill does fucking nothing at all because he neglected to mention his contract with Interplay, and subsequently gets humiliated and fired
>Decided to write fanfic instead
Fast forward now
>Other people in the thread, not OP, OTHER PEOPLE, make comments about the trans thing and as such have been deleted.
>Post to OP because it's SO FUCKING OBVIOUS they made this thread as an excuse to troll trans

You do realize this is what happened, yes? OP even commented down in the thread looking for other people who just didn't make it in the game biz.

We call this practice a "Persecution Complex."

>> No.4336967

>>4336963
Just to clarify some, OP didn't bring up anything about the trans stuff in any offensive or disparaging way, unless mentioning it at all is offensive.

>> No.4336968

>>4336947
It's full of banter but also has always drawn people who tend to be outside the sexual norms in one way or another. That's why I mentioned Linetrap in the first place, Bailey was/is a 4chan icon. Poking at the snowflakes who come here and then lose their shit over anything like this are my entertainment.

>> No.4336973

>>4336691
Is the boppin' lady related to the leaping lad?

>> No.4336974

>>4336963
>Did nothing but ports
OP made a point completely contradictory to this:
>It was the virtual lack of doing anything worthwhile after a promising start I'm looking for.
So no, not true. You are not on the same page as reality. Either OP's example isn't an example of a fuckup because somebody who just does ports isn't someone of notice in the first place or they're not a fuckup because your argument that all she did was ports isn't true.

>>4336967

Also untrue. Bringing up a giant pile of greentext about her being trans for, as you seem to be claiming, no reason, is textbook disparagement. According to OP, nothing had even happened in Heineman's career after transitioning, meaning it's not even relevant to OP's point about video game fuckups. The fact that you're defending that proves your position on the topic as well.

>> No.4336986

>>4336974
K, keep standing on your soapbox on a mongolian basket weaving site.

>> No.4336987

>>4336785
Lots of the male computer nerds of the 60s and 70s ended up becoming females, you'd be surprised just how many from vidya devs to early usenet owners ended up transitioning, to the point where it seems like every 3rd person who touched Assembly back then would end up being a different gender later in life.

>> No.4336991

>>4336986

I'm not on a soapbox, I'm pointing out your bullshit because its simple to do and its true.

Maybe you wanna drop your ego and argue the point?

>> No.4336997

>>4336840
To be fair, that advertisement turned out to be 100% accurate. Anyone who bought Daikatana was made John Romero's bitch, just not in the way they anticipated.

>> No.4336998

>>4336991
OP has 11 lines of greentext describing a timeline and some events. It's not my fault you can't place things as a timeline and just go with it instead of taking everything offensively.

>> No.4337003

>>4336998

Funny, I didn't even take offense to OP. There's a difference between being offended and noticing he mentioned trans despite the fact that it supposedly has nothing to with his topic just because it offends him.

Sad to see you still can't argue the point. Don't worry, I'm not offended.

>> No.4337007

There is literally nothing wrong with being trans.

>> No.4337008

>>4337003
>Funny, I didn't take offense to OP
But you still posted back on OP calling this thread an obvious weak ass trans troll thread.

>> No.4337010

>>4336704
sounds like you n your brother are the fuck ups

>> No.4337019

>>4337008

First of all, no I didn't, you don't know who you're talking to.

Second of all, what a dumb post even if I was that guy. Replying doesn't mean anybody is offended at all. Noticing somebody is wrong and pointing that out is a good thing. Way to prove you can't argue the point, the best you can do is try to talk about me (and miss, at that). You're still, repeatedly, trying to defend OP even though he brought up trans for no reason, you are waaay more offended than anybody else in the thread.

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>>4337007

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>>4336705

>Voted for Trump.
>Follow Romero on Twitter.
>He rageposts that if you voted for Trump you should unfollow him.
>Still follow him.

>> No.4337078

>>4337046
LITERALLY.