/vr/ - Retro Games

New Adventure Island is my favorite game on the system, but I also like Bonk, Pac-Land and Cotton.
Anyone played the PCE version of Ninja Gaiden?

one of the best games on the system.

>>4322083
Face was a weird developer.

Not an Alice fan but I do like Hany on the Road and Cyber Cross.

Why was Cross Wiber such a fucking piece of shit though?

I like the dinky little platformers

I kind of want to get a TurboExpress one day (I like collecting handhelds but it's further down on my list) but I haven't investigated the Turbografx/PC Engine much. What are some things I need to know? Region locked? Good games? Things to watch out for hardware-wise? Homebrew? Anything is welcome.

>>4322131
Duo-R and Duo-RX are the best models. They play both Hucards and CD's and have few issues if any. If you end up wanting an Arcade card to play the weird Strider port or Fatal Fury Special, buy the Duo Card

Stay away from regular "black" Duos.

pcenginefx.com/forums/

This is the main PCE forum. Some of the users are kinda paranoid about "collectards" but if you're honest they'll help you out

http://videogameden.com/

this is a beautiful site with in-depth pages on each game, including artwork, cart size and manual scans. Reviews are stubs but they get the point across

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_Nv8aqKxg

Watch this video. It has 50 of the best games with clips and info. Gives pros for each

http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/TurboGrafx-16

/v/'s own wiki page. Has entries for both Hucard and CD

My personal favorite Hucards include
>Bonk 1 and 2
>Super Dodgeball
>Mr Heli
>Salamander
>Liquid Kids
>Soldier Blade
>Bomberman 93 and 94
>Outrun
>Wonder Boy III Dragon Trap

Some great CD games are

>Rondo
>River City Ransom
>Forgotten Worlds
>Ys I and II, III, IV
>Buster Bros
>Tenchi Wo Kurau
>Strider (not great but interesting)
>Legend of Xanadu I and II

The PC Engine is known for games by Hudson, Taito, Namco, Irem and Falcom. Hudson also published games by Red, who made a number of critically acclaimed hits. Konami made a handful and Capcom gave indirect support similar to the Genesis. Surprisingly, a number of SEGA ports are really good.

>>4322178
Human and NCS/Masaya also got big starts on the system.

Games by Technos and Compile were published by Naxat usually.

PC engine is strongest in shooters and JRPGs. Platformers are okay, with only a handful of top-tier games.

If you want Western games they are very hard to find, but there's some oddball games like a port of Loom, Madden 93 and the definitive version of Populous (on CD)

>>4322189
Other than the Falcom games and the Dungeon Explorer games what PCE RPGs would you recommend?

>>4322201
nothing is really translated besides Startling Odyssey II and Xak III.

Legend of Xanadu I and II are top-tier legendary games, which have finished translations but will not come out until the optional dubs are recorded.

The most well known pce rpgs outside of Falcom games include

>Gulliver Boy
>Anearth Fantasy Stories
>Emerald Dragon
>Tengai Makyou series
>Last Armaggedon

Blood Gear is also by the studio who made the Wonder Boy in Monster World games

About a month ago I bought a Core Grafx I (thanks Japanon!), Multitap, some controllers, and a Turbo EverDrive and I've been having a ton of fun with it. I only had a casual knowledge of the system previously, mostly the platformers, but I like the system a lot so far. The games have a comfy charm.

Anyone know a good place to undo the region mod?

I managed to collect a PC Engine with CD attachment and interface dock, and after fixing up the CD-ROM drive it works, mostly. It reads audio CDs perfectly fine and games run more or less correctly, but some games get weird graphical glitches in cutscenes. Zero Wing for one always shows some kind of sprite corruption on the cinematic scenes, but it's never consistent on where or when. Sometimes it'll be a little bit at the end or sometimes it'll be throughout the scene. Rondo of Blood is sometimes perfect but occasionally a cinematic will show similar glitchiness. Gameplay is mostly unaffected, but they tend to have weirdly long load times.

Could these issues be due to using a Turbo Everdrive with the modded 3.01 Elmer BIOS? The Everdrive seems to work perfectly in most every other regard. I'd like to know if I should plunk down the money for a legit Super System Card or not. I doubt it has to do with using modern 700MB CD-Rs, because most other games seem to play flawlessly, and the one cheap game I bought legit to test (Advanced VG) seems to run identically to the burned version. Sorry I wish I had photos of the issues. Still love the system though, Alien/Devil Crush are two of my favorite time wasters these days

>>4322898
>modded 3.01 Elmer BIOS
wtf is that?

Yeah, just buy a real 3.0 card, or just sell you setup and get a duo-r instead. No hassle

>>4322898
No, mine does that too.

>>4322274
How is the translation of Startling Odyssey II? There's very little info about it online.

I wish they'd just release the translations of the LoX games. I have no interest in oistening to a fanfub anyway

>>4322902
The standard CD-ROM bios files don't work properly on the Everdrive due to the nature of how it functions I suppose, so someone modded it to be properly compatible.

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3640.0

>>4322902
Man Duo units are so freaking expensive, I wouldn't be able to sell my complete combo for enough to pay for a working Duo. The best I could do is buy a known broken one and troubleshoot and fix it, and I don't know enough about electronics to do that. I was lucky enough in the first place to find a "junk" CD-ROM unit that only had one minor fault (arm holding laser assembly to worm gear was loose). I'm happy to have a 95% working console, I just want to get some ideas on what could be causing the glitches. I'd rather not have to go through the hassle of procuring a new unit just to spend more money fixing it.

>>4322912
Thanks for the input. If somebody who burns games and has an Everdrive could give us some feedback, it would be much appreciated

>>4323162
What game is that?

>>4322201
Exile
Dragonslayer
Cosmic Fantasy

>>4323219
Advanced VG

>>4322037
Not a big fan of arcade ports because they're better on other platforms but do like some of the "arcade like" games for it. Dinky platformers are great. Even weird jap shit like Doraemon, Bikkuriman , etc are fun.

>>4323260
Do those have English releases/translation patches?

>>4324070
A lot of the shmups are good ports. Gradius 1 in particular is actually better than the arcade original

>>4322921
The fandub is necessary because you can't subtitle the parts that have voiced dialogue but no text.

If you could speak Japanese you wouldn't need the translation in the first place.

>>4324417
There's plenty of people that can understand spoken Japanese but can't read.

>>4324418

I'm the opposite, I can read and write fine but can't understand it when it's spoken.

Anyone else have trouble with a TED and a regionmodded system?

>>4324495
Yes, it's a known issue.

>>4324071
Yes on all 3

>>4324669
So how I fix it?

Just go buy the original cartridge on ebay / your local garage sale / at a FUCKING GOODWILL for $1 - $5

Who would actually pay $100 USD for this shit???

>>4324719
Un-regionmod it? No point having a region mod if you have a TED.

Is it possible to RGB mod the PCE Interface Unit? All the info on retrorgb.com seems to be referring to the Duo or base unit

>>4322201
It has the definitive version of Shin Megami Tensei, but it's CD only and hasn't been translated.

>>4324719
You buy an un-molested PCE.

>>4324823
how does this compare to the Sega CD version?

it's criminal how many pce rpgs are still in moonrunes

>>4324834
The SEGA CD version is wholly unique, it's totally re-drawn, has a totally different soundtrack and (optional) smooth scrolling (I guess it's optional because it makes the game chug). Honestly I don't have a ton of experience with the SEGA CD version, but I have researched it. The PCE CD version is basically the SuFami version, but with better dungeon scrolling, Redbook CD Audio (for a few tracks), spoken dialogue, an exclusive demon or two, and in my opinion, the definitive version of the soundtrack, but that is highly, highly subjective. If you're a Megaten fan I would recommend checking it out, even if you can't really 'play' it it's pretty cool. Really a bummer than SMTII didn't make it to the PCE, would have been neat to see.

>>4324834
It's criminal how many PCE fans don't understand Japanese.

>>4322037
it's not nintendo, why even bother

>>4324845
explain to me why snes and nes get translations by the dozens, why the pce straggles by with one or two a year, mostly hucard?

The PCE is a niche underdog console that's slowly been getting more popular.

>>4324867
Because there's translation tooling for the NES and SNES so people can just extract a script, translate it via Google, rewrite it so it looks like a translation and insert it back it.
No actual hacking or Japanese knowledge required to do it.

>>4324867
> most PCE jrpgs are honestly not that great or innovative. They are incredibly fucking dry. The other half of the library are visual novels nobody cares about.
> hacking a cd-rom is exponentially more difficult than a cart. doesnt help that mednafen does not have as good debugging tools as bsnes
> most cd games have unsubtitled voiced cutscenes, this is extremely common and either you reprogram the game to display synchronized subs or you redub the voice tracks. both of which are not trivial to do

>>4324719
Unbreak it
Don't break it to begin with

>>4324812
>is it possible to use the consoles native RGB that's output on the connector the IFU connects to through the IFU?
Of course

>>4324996
Alright, I didn't think it was impossible, I just didn't have the technical knowhow to investigate. Can I use one of the existing Duo amp boards or would I have to install a different solution? I don't think it comes as a surprise that I really don't know a single thing about how the circuitry works, but if someone has designed a product that can be dropped in and soldered to a couple specified points I would be willing to check it out.

>>4324812
I think these look so cool when they're all together like this.

>>4325214
Yeah I agree. I just wish I had the lid for it to complete the briefcase look. I also wish it supported s-video but whatever

>>4322131
>>4322178
isn't the turboexpress a handheld?

>>4325235
yes

bought myself my first DUO-R in Tokyo back in 2002.

still going strong with 250+ titles at the moment.

had to get my DUO-R refurbished 2 years ago though.

>>4323383
can u post the pic where she's getting spanked by her mama. thx.

>>4324729
I can't find anyone that does region mods

>>4325484
You basically need to buy a new one

Best controller hands down! The "Micomsoft Xe-1 Hepro", REAL arcade stick with built in multitap.
The 3-buttom Blaster controller is also really comfy.
I got my first PCE for Ys 1&2, but now I mostly play shoot'em ups.

I started collecting heavy for the PCE, but it has a FUCK TON of fillers and unplayables. I've sold off around 250 games, only keeping the ones I like to play. I have not counted, but I think I have around 60-70 games now.

>>4325564
You mean like almost all other consoles?

>>4325576
yup, like all consoles.

I would say about 15% of the games are worth playing on the pce

>>4325576
checked http://www.pcedaisakusen.net
I had 360 games at one point. so about 300 of those were crap lol

>>4325601
Probably still has a better batting average than the NES/Famicom or the Playstation

>>4322037
PCEngine has the best ASSthetics

>>4325495
That isn't going to happen, I already RGB modded mine, and I intend to use it for both CD and non-CD games

>>4325638

>>4325642
https://www.retromags.com/gallery/category/396-pc-engine-fan/

>>4325576
NEC PC-LD1

ALL. THE. FUCKING. WAY

>>4325640
That's weird since the PCE supports RGB out of the box

>>4325827
Depends on which PCE you're talking about. The Duo and later require mods for RGB.

>>4325036
All the pins from the EXT bus are passed through to the IFU. You can connect directly the to solder side of the connector and wire the rest up based on any other RGB mod.

>>4325306
>250+ titles

that's a crapload! what are your favorites?

>>4325827
First of all, I got a Turbografx. Second there isn't ANY PCE/Turbografx that supports RGB out of the box

>>4326517
Well, it's hard to call an accessory that plugs into the expansion port a "mod".

>>4326517
>there isn't ANY PCE/Turbografx that supports composite out of the box
>you need to plug in a cable
lel

>>4326584
RGB blind fuck

So I'm guessing learning Japanese is the only way to have fun with this stuff right?

Any tutorials for that aspect...?

>>4326596
>So I'm guessing learning Japanese is the only way to have fun with this stuff right?
Not the only way, but it is recommended.
>Any tutorials for that aspect...?
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/

>>4326596
Not really, dude. The best games on PCE are space shooters which don't require any language. The RPGs may look nice but are clearly inferior to the ones you've already played on Playstation and Super Nintendo.

>>4326596
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

>>4322083
ARISU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy1CNu_Quso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kt4iIme6kE

>forgetting the game of the year of 1989

>>4326616
>clearly inferior

maybe a bunch of them, but they are a handful that are very high quality

>Legend of Xanadu I and II
>Tengai Makyou series (the 2nd one is the highest selling pc engine game)
>Emerald Dragon (original version)
>Anearth Fantasy Stories
>Gulliver Boy

the visuals in some of these games are not only incredible for a pce game but just fantastic for any 16-bit game

>>4326668
this game is a fucking classic. I love the lightning flash of that 100% full power whack

the 2nd game is cool but totally different, has one of the best chiptune soundtracks

>>4326668
Excellent damn game.

>>4326668
The game is from 88.

>>4326759
Fine, I did play Xanadu and I admit those are great games.

This thread convinced me to look into Gulliver Boy.
I'd always thought it was one of those cheap TV anime license games and kinda ignored it, but it seems it's the other way around, game came first (or sorta at the same time, with the anime made to promote it).
Thinking I'll play the Saturn port for the battle animation and better video compression

>>4326863
PC Engine has no video codec whatsoever, all cutscenes are done by moving and animating sprites. This is also the reason why it's better than the SEGA CD, there are no FMV games whatsoever.

>>4326863
Interestingly, the cutscenes in Lunar and Popful Mail on the SEGA CD were ALSO made PCE style by animating sprites instead of using grainy compressed full motion video.
And the end result looks MUCH better for that.

>>4326867
And NEC they developed Tetsujin to focus on FMV, ultimately even releasing it as the PC-FX to compete with PS1 and SS.

>>4326876
Yes that is correct, at least you can't accuse me of being a biased fanboy since NEC ended up making the exact same mistake as SEGA by investing in lousy FMV games.

>>4324812
there probably is but your best bet is to ask the people on the PC Enginefx fourms. Had someone there mod my DUO and it looks great!
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/

>>4326594
>the joke
>your head

>>4326517
Yeah, you're wrong regardless. There's literally pins for RGB on the back (TG16 and PCE, for the record), it's natively spitting it out at all times. Maybe do some research?

>>4327013
He means that you only plug a cable like the SNES or Mega Drive to your tv and it works
No soldering or shit needed

>>4326759
Don't forget Dungeon Explorers II. It's probably the best game on the system

>>4326759
Is the Super Famicom Gulliver Boy an okay substitute? I think that's the only one with a fan translation

>>4327013
Can you even use those with any of the CD systems/Briefcase?

>>4326867
>>4326871
Gulliver Boy uses a video compression codec called HuVideo that they came up with near the end of the PC Engine's lifespan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl36gtB57Os
But I agree with your sentiment about traditional PCE style looking better than grainy FMV.

>>4326867
>there are no FMV games whatsoever
But Johnny Turbo told me it has Sherlock Holmes

>>4324812
how possible, or IMpossible would be to get the cases of that combo, just the cases?

i mean, jusst like theres people repairing those all the time, there should be people trying to get rid of their 'pieces of junk', right?

>>4327238
It Came From The Desert also achieves FMV. I wonder how did they achieve that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eui-YSSP2hQ

>>4327069
it's a different game

Both Gulliver Boy and Anearth fantasy stories got saturn ports. Apparently Anearth is better on pce but i can't say about Gulliver Boy

>>4327354
The Saturn version of Gulliver Boy is supposedly practically identical, with the exception of:
-enemies are now animated in combat rather than static
-for the FMV scenes the video size is bigger and compression quality is better
-the PCE audio/non-CDDA portion of the game's music was redone for the Saturn sound hardware and is technically more advanced (though I'm sure some people prefer the PCE mix)

>>4327256

Only small sections of the screen are animated. The characters themselves, or what's on the TV. The rest is a static, low color backdrop.

>>4327046
There's no soldering needed for a non-Duo PCE/TG-16, either. You literally plug a cable into the back, just like an SNES/MD.

>>4327046
>he solders to the exp connector

I love mine, especially the CD-ROM2. The CD quality music really makes me wish the SNES ended up getting a CD add on.
I went with the "briefcase" style cause I really liked the look of it, but now I'm wishing I went for a Duo-R, the power cable sticking out the side (and the RGB cable on the other, in my case) has started bugging me. Also I get the impression that these ones are most likely to turn yellow. My CD unit is a little more yellow than I'd prefer.
I highly recommend the eBay seller 8bitterz if you're thinking about getting a system, he packs it great and cleans them wonderfully.
I've got a whole spare set of these as well that I bought cheap off eBay auctions in untested conditions, the console and interface work, but the CD unit has got several problems, including the commonly broken gear that works the laser. Dunno what to do with it all.

Anyone got any experience with the SuperGrafx or PCFX? I've always wondered if they're worth the money or are mostly just for collectors.

>>4328469
collectors. PCFX is like the 3DO but it REALLY is only FMV-kind games and SuperGrafx simply doesn't do enough for the money you'd be dropping

>>4328526
>PCFX is like the 3DO but it REALLY is only FMV-kind games
Not at all. NEC may have hoped to get some FMV but all they managed was Return to Zork.
PC-FX is like a Saturn without any 3D whatsoever.

>>4328602
not really, I did look into the library and the only 2 real games are zenki and chip chan kick
btw I wish I was trolling

>>4328616
I'm not saying it had a lot of games but the ones it had weren't interactive movies.
They largely continued the "girl of your dreams" phase of the PCE-CD, going as far as selecting a loli as the mascot.

>>4328616
Well there's a langrisser game too so that makes at least 3.

>>4328619
I don't think comparing it to saturn is very fair either, the saturn could run arcade perfect bullet hell shooters like Dodonpachi without flickering sprites or slowing down. The only shooter on the PCFX is Zeroigar and it really looks exactly like a vanilla PCE game.

>>4328469
Gears are easy to replace with a gear or belt. supergrafx and pcfx are useless for playing, only useful for displaying.

Thread needs to survive! For the glory of the PC Engine!

>>4322037
dammit this console looks so comfy, I really want one but I feel like these are hard to collect for and get into.

>>4330293
Turbo Everdrive and burned CDs. Not so much "hard" to get into as "expensive" since working CD-ROM consoles can get pricey and often need cap replacement. I love my Duo though, totally worth it.

>>4330298
Hopefully I can get one for a reasonable price, of course I'll have to do my research as well

What Turbografx games would you guys recommend off the Wii Virtual Console? I already have Castlevania Rondo of Blood, Star Parodier, Ys Book I and II, Detana Twinbee, and Bomberman 94.

What are other must haves?

>>4328627
I wanted to say PS1 and SS but SS is much more of a galge system.

im interested in getting a pc engine. what model would be the best? my tv only has coax and composite, so will i need an rf thingy? will i need to get a card of sorts for homebrew?

>>4330404
I recommend not making retro games into a service.

>>4330447
A Duo-R is generally your best bet, since they're considered more reliable than the regular Duo (though still not bulletproof; I'd strongly recommend inspecting the caps even in a Duo-R at this point). It has composite output standard, so no need to worry about RF. The Duo-RX is the same thing with a mostly useless 6-button controller.

If you don't care about CD games at all, you can get a base PC Engine or Core Grafx fairly cheap, but since many of the system's best games are on CD I wouldn't necessarily recommend that unless you can find a good deal on a standalone CD-ROM drive as well. The base systems also need an adapter for composite video.

The GDEMU guy is working on an ODE for the PC Engine, so if/when that becomes available, a base system plus ODE might become the way to go.

For homebrew/piracy you'll want a Turbo Everdrive. CD-based games can just be burned onto CD-Rs.

>>4330462
wut

>>4330293

>>4330298 has the right idea. You can get 'untested' plain white PCE base units for ~30 if you play the eBay game. Get an RF cable, a PSU, and a Chinese Turbo EverDrive, and you can have every HuCard game ready to go for ~$100 or less. The PCE only gets ridiculous if you want to get into the CD-ROM stuff. Which, while it is amazing, can be emulated perfectly. I play HuCard stuff on hardware, emulate for CD.

>>4330447
If you want to go HuCard-only see my previous post >>4330845.

PC Engine mini when? Nintendo's done it, Sega allowed 3rd party companies to do it for the past 10 years, what are they waiting for?

>>4330875
Their market is limited to Japan.
NEC hasn't been involved in the games business in years and Hudson is dead. It's possible they don't trust the brand name and aren't in a position to let other sell it for them.

>>4330875
FUCK MINI SHIT

>>4330845
Why would I get an RF cable instead of one of the other superior video types the console supports?

>>4330875
nobody would care

>>4322074
i played it some with a turbo everdrive. it's interesting. bit rigid but plays well enough.

>>4330979
Do what you want, I was just demonstrating the cheapest route. You'll have to buy a $20-30 converter from China to plug into the expansion port to get RGB, Component, S-Video, or Composite. I did, it's awesome.

>>4324812
i saw one on ebay that had a RGB mod done to the interface unit.

Finally bought a DUO-R as a present to myself. Anything turbo/pc-engine is getting expensive I think duo to scarcity so if you are a hardware fag and you haven't gotten around to picking one up I would suggest you do it. Especially before Kanye's new album drops.

Got a stack of Taiyo Yudens ready to go. Just waiting on a controller and a AV cable. I want to get it RGB modded down the line with Voultar's kit but I don't have the disposable income at the moment to do that. So composite being fed into my 14" PVM will have to do for now.

>>4330909
>>4330984
Kanye named his newest album Turbografx 16

>>4331225
You're saying that like it's a sure thing it will be named that, or even drop at all.

>>4331183
It's been expensive, nothing has changed

I want to cop a PC Engine, but am poor as shit right now so I can't afford a Turbo Everdrive to go with it. I was thinking about getting a PCE/CD combo of some sort since CDs can just be burnt, but everything on eBay is stupid expensive. Anyone have any tips for buying on Yahoo Auctions? I feel like that's my best bet for getting a PCE at a reasonable price.

>>4331324
>poor as shit
Mednafen.

>>4331324
>but am poor as shit right now
Download Mednafen.

>>4331324
PC Engine is bizarrely overpriced anyway you choose to go about it. Just emulate.

>>4331378
PCE emulators suck a lot, though.

>>4331417
Mednafen is pretty flawless for the games I've played on it

Could anyone comment on how good Wii PC Engine Virtual Console is? I really want to play about 5 games or so but dont want to drop $300 for just a handful of games

>>4331417
The only game I couldn't run on mednafen was Phantasm Soldier Valis. I had to use Magic Engine for that. Also if you do get the cracked Magic Engine make sure you replace the 1.0.0 executable in the pirated version with the latest 1.1.3 from the official site. As long as there is a PCE.KEY in the folder you will get the full version.

>>4331427
My bad, I mean Mugen Senshi Valis the Valis 1 remake not the original Valis 1.

>>4331417
No, they're basically flawless.

>>4331423
It's great, also, why haven't you hacked your Wii? Wii Mednafen is just as good as the VC PCE Emulation.

>>4331441
What about CD games?

>>4331470
what about them? rondo of blood is on wii vc

>>4331470
Yeah, Wii VC is fine, and Wii Mednafen is exactly as good and you can play more than just Rondo of Blood.

>>4331441
It is hacked, though i almost exclusively just play Virtual Console releases instead of the homebrew emulators with the exception of Genesis Plus GX.

maybe its just me but for example i tried SNES9X GX and it didnt feel as responsive as SNES VC, and certainly not a real snes

>>4331505
SNES9X GX was updated (sort of) recently, FCEUGX too, I would highly recommend updating them, they run way better. Anyway, give Mednafen a shot, it kicks ass.

>>4330404
So no suggestions?

>>4331586
Splatterhouse, Double Dungeons, Dungeon Explorer

>>4331586
Alien Crush and Devil Crush, Trust me. if you only do one do Devil Crush

>>4331586
oh and Blazing Lazers is amazing, silly name but great shump

>>4331378
I mean, the pricing isn't that outrageous on YA, I'm just very cheap and want to spend as little as possible. I'm hoping for something in the range of $50 to $100 shipped; I've had my eye on some items that should fit the bill as long as the auction prices don't spike too high. Like I said, I'm just looking for tips from anyone else who's used Yahoo Auctions before since I'm not really sure how best to use the site.

>>4331616
You have to use a middle-man service to do everything for you, so you'll have to factor in that cost.

>>4331616
>I'm hoping for something in the range of $50 to $100 shipped
Then get a Wii.

>>4331625
That's more like $10-20 at the thrift store down the street

>>4331621
I'm using Buyee which is like an extra $10 or so. I'm just worried about shipping costs; there's a cost estimator on their website but it's really not that helpful. I'm assuming it's going to be anywhere from $20 to $40 dollars to ship, based on eBay prices.

>>4331609
Which is better: Blazing Lazers or Soldier Blade?

I am thinking of getting one of them.

>>4331671
Soldier Blade

>>4331064
Yes, good thing I bought it

>>4331475
>>4331493
I don't care about Rondo of Blood, there are plenty more PCE CD games that are better

>>4331678
I think the point is that you can run other cd games on a hacked wii.

>>4331324
Last year I got Duo on YJA (6k yen without shipping and fees), but it was in broken state, so I had to fix it.
Keep stalking and you might find a deal.

>>4331678
>>4331691
Yeah, that was exactly the point. Rondo is cool, but there's a lot of cool PCE CD games, and the Wii VC isn't the best selection of them.

>>4331638
Depends on the size of what you're buying and how quickly you want it shipped. I recently got a Twin Famicom, 9 FC games, 16 PCE games, and an NEC Avenue Pad 6 and it cost me $100 to ship everything to NZ within 2 weeks.

>>4331694
>6k
Wew lad. Last year I got a working R for ¥2.5k (without metro fees)

>>4332223
>without metro fees
Wish I could find deals like that locally as well, but I have to import, which is good enough for me.

>>4332223
Nice find. That's an abnormal price these days, sadly. You'd be lucky to find a working base model for that, and a tested good Duo-R tends to run 20k+.

>>4331673
Anyone else have anything to say?

How is Battle Lode Runner and Galaga 90?

>>4332492
Saw one CIB for 12.5K this weekend. In a reseller shop so not some freak thrift store find. The only luck I ever needed was knowing that Japan isn't Akihabara.

>>4332560
Depends on where you are, I guess. I live well outside of Tokyo but the local prices I've seen have been pretty similar to Yahoo Auctions prices. I got my Duo (non-R, no box, no controller) last year for 12k, but I haven't seen a deal anywhere near that good since.

>>4332493
not bad

>>4322898
Posting some examples of sprite corruption in cutscenes. This one was particularly bad. Not sure what causes this

>>4332493
Both are great games

>>4333246
What makes it even more weird is after I got this I shut the system down, turned it back on with the same game, and it ran flawlessly. First time load times were excessive and the music cut out during gameplay, now the load times are normal and music properly played throughout. It's the damndest thing

>>4333253
Another example from the same cutscene. Less glitching but still messed up. It happens sometimes in Rondo of Blood's cutscenes but I can't pin it down to any one cause

>>4333260
And the proper one

Sorry for the quality of the pictures. It's tough to get my phone to autofocus on the screen for specific parts in a cutscene

>>4331671
Blazing Lazers/Gunhed is a bit dated in comparison, visuals aren't as nice overall and the horizontal movement is a bit weird with how it effects the movement of bullets. But the music is probably better and the game has some great levels, maybe more intense than Soldier Blade in some ways, especially the latter half of the game.

On balance I'd go with Soldier Blade, but in the long run its worth having both

>>4333246
>>4333253
>>4333260
>>4333265
Legit discs or CD-Rs?

>>4333292
CD-R

It cost me enough to acquire the full package piecemeal, no way I could justify paying for the games right now

>>4333301
Might be the images. I sometimes get the same kind of artifacts but on other games. I got a burned copy of Zero Wing too but never had artifacts with it.

>>4333306
I'm using Emuparadise, fwiw. I'm open to alternatives, but they seem to have the best selection I've seen and have had no problems with other CD consoles (ps1, Saturn, Sega CD) so I don't know why PCE is giving me all these problems. I know I'm a sad unlucky bastard, so maybe that explains it

>>4332565
It depends on the area but also on the shop. I've seen huge price differences between shops almost next to each other. When it comes to resellers the best prices are in Tokyo. Just not in the tourist traps.

I already have:
- Bomberman 94
- Detana Twinbee
- Star Parodier
- Ys Book I and II
- Castlevania Rondo of Blood

off the Virtual Console.

I am thinking of getting:
- Bonk's Revenge
- Soldier Blade
- Galaga 90
- Chew Man Fu
- Battle Lode Runner

The ones I am iffy on are Soldier Blade (since I suck at shmups) and Battle Lode Runner (it seems like a decent party game and has an edit feature, but no one seems to like it).

Should I still get those two games?

Also any other recommendations?

>>4334520
Blazing Lasers dude

>>4334520
dude Wii mednafen, entire library, play whatever you want whenever you want

>>4335209
DUDE WII LMAO

>There are people who would choose any Duo over the nice sexy briefcase

>>4335303
He's got a point though.

>>4334520
emulate first to see what you like

Is it worth it to bid on an untested PCE+CD-ROM+Interface? I know that the PCE can be quite finnicky, not to mention the CD-ROM drive, which seems to go bad on all retro consoles. I'm not sure if I should expect it to work, though as long as one of the components works I'll still be getting a good deal.

>>4335697
The PCE isn't finicky at all, base units (White/Core/Core II) are built like tanks and have a 90% chance of working in an 'untested' lot. The base units don't have the capacitor issues that plaghue the combo CD-ROM units (DUO/RX/) CD-ROM has a 99% chance of being non-operational, you will not get a working one in an untested lot. If it was working it would cost 5x more, and anyone selling PC Engines knows that. Interface will more than likely be good to go as well, which will give you composite out of the PCE out of the box which is cool. If you get a good deal and factor in ~$50 for CD-ROM repair (unless you do it yourself), it can be worth it. 2/3 pieces are likely to be fine.

>>4335707
But what about the Briefcase Interfaces?

>>4335708
>Interface will more than likely be good to go as well, which will give you composite out of the PCE out of the box which is cool.

There's basically nothing to break in them.

>>4335707
It looks like the seller isn't that familiar with retro gaming; they seem to sell general electronics and said that the PCE has been sitting in a warehouse. I'm mostly interested in the CD-ROM since games for that can just be burnt; how would I go about fixing the CD-ROM unit if it's broken? Is it usually just a laser replacement or does it have the bad cap problem that the Duos have?

>>4335725
Laser or something else, no caps

>>4324841
How does it compare to the PS1 version?

>>4335330
>the joke
>your head

>>4335697
>i know wrong things
That's actually worse than knowing nothing at all. There are many factors to consider when deciding whether it's "worth it" For example, if you "know" you can supercharge it's bits by putting it in the micro for a few minutes there's no point in wasting money on future smelly black goo.

Thread isn't allowed to die until I say so!

or it hits bump limit

>>4336903
Why not just post some PCE goodness than? Like your waifu >>4328619

>>4335840
PS1 version is totally different, mostly redrawn (again), real (fast this time) smooth scrolling, different soundtrack, some quality of life improvements iirc, etc. I've played the iOS version based on the GBA version based on the PSX version, so that's what I'm going off. I hate to recommend this site, but HCG101's SMT 'article' actually has good screenshots and comparisons between all the versions. You don't need to read any of it to see the differences. I really, really love the PCE versions soundtrack, and I also think it's pretty amazing that it runs better than the SuFami version, despite that being the 'flagship' version at the time.

I've been thinking on getting an EverDrive for my PCE... where could I get the cheapest one?

>>4338106
I got mine recently from Stone Age Gamer. I wanted a good 3D printed piece
over the exposed pcb and they had it. I'm not crazy about their shop but it was a comparable price to Krikzz' site. Or you can buy the Chinese clones on AliExpress for less.

>>4338106
depends where you live. For a legit one, Krikzz site has a few dealers which might sell them cheaper

>>4338106
Chinese clones are about $60 on AliExpress. No reason to buy an official one because Krikzz will never update the firmware again. I have an official one and I'm super disappointed with the complete abandonment of the platform.

>>4338286
Doesn't everything work anyway?

>>4338138
>>4338278
>>4338286
Thanks! I may look into buying a chinese one if it works okay

I'd listen to >>4338286 and get the Chinese clone. I paid about $33 more going with Stone Age Gamer because I wanted it sooner and the 3d printed piece covering the PCB. I don't think the Chinese clones come with the cover, but you could always get one printed for cheap if you really need it. It doesn't affect it, it's just my autism bothering me when it's exposed. I've had my Core Grafx I and TED for about a month now and have been having a lot of fun with it.

>>4338106
browse ebay, often they may come loaded with full romsets

>>4338310
Turbo Everdrive works great, much much faster than the SNES Everdrive

>>4338697
I hope you realize your chink clone is worthless.

>>4338606
If you get one, make sure it's an EXACT replica of the Krikzz model, with all appropriate level translators. No reason to risk your console on some dodgy piece of Chinese shit.

>>4338934
>risk your console
>this shit again
18+ kiddo

>>4338926
I bought the official one from Stone Age Gamer.

>>4338964
*blocks your path*

>>4337272
Thanks for the info. I've wanted to play the first two SMT games for a while now but I can never decide on which console to play them. I'll check out the PCE versions.

>>4338926
Fuck off shill

>>4339117
SMT on the PCE is only in Japanese, FYI; and II isn't on the PCE at all, sadly. Worth checking out I if you can read it or struggle through though.

>>4339117
if you're an Atlus fan, also check out the two Dungeon Explorer games on PCE

>>4339638
Yeah, I can read Japanese. I think I'll go with PS1 for SMTII, then.
>>4340434
Thanks, will do.

>>4340841
>Yeah, I can read Japanese. I think I'll go with PS1 for SMTII, then.
make sure to play the fixed version

>>4340841
Good call, the Aeon Genesis SFC translation is a broken mess. And yeah, >>4340845 is right, they fixed a major bug in the second pressing. You can find the ISO if you're emulating though. If you're buying the 'fixed' pressing is wicked expensive.

>>4338310
Yeah, all the HuCard games work great, but the device has the potential to play CD-ROM software (more easily if redbook audio was omitted), but it will never get updated to do so. It 's had 2 OS revisions, it's a dead project.

>>4341315
What was the bug?

>>4341318
WTF are you talking about? There is an updated CD-ROM bios that lets you boot CD games. Link here >>4322935

>>4341395
There's a bunch of small but irritating bugs with selection boxes being off-screen, text being in the wrong places, typical translation junk; but it adds up to an irritating experience.
>>4342007
Yeah, if you have a working CD-ROM unit and actual discs, that's not what I'm talking about. The PCE CD-ROM literally adds nothing to the console 'tech' wise, other than the ability to stream CD-audio. The PCE just treats the CD-ROM as a huge, huge, gigantic HuCard. It's not like the SEGA CD, which actually added additional beefed-up hardware to the console. The TED is capable of delivering CD data to the PCE, potentially allowing the use of ISOs in addition to PCE ROM files. The issue that Krikzz has actually mentioned is that it couldn't handle the CD-Audio data, but most games could be playable without that. It would be an amazing feature is all I'm saying, and we'll probably never see it. It just sucks to spend on a product with the promise of extra features and firmware updates, and then it gets abandoned. As someone who bought an official one, I just think it's worth warning people.

>>4342681
Fair enough. I hadn't considered the possibility of using the everdrive to run entire CD games since I have a working CD-ROM unit and burn whatever disc I need. Still I can see how it would be a helpful tool if it worked like that. Being able to negate or minimize failing optical drives is a definite goal to look toward.