/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4319840
yoshi is a beta

>>4319859
Fat Hammer bro looking like a true Alpha

>>4319859
yoshi had a hard life
>>4319860
chad hammer bro vs beta yoshi

beta thwomp

poor guy

>>4319915
>no one outside of event attendees and Nintendo employees will ever get to play the 50% complete build of Super Mario 64 that was shown at Shoshinkai '95
Makes me literally and unironically want kill myself, to be honest, pham.

>>4319937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys723F9wiwU
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Mario_64_(Nintendo_64)
Id rather play zelda 64 desu

Cancelled wonderswan remake of III

>>4319915
>Boy, I sure am angry!

>>4319915
Ain't that Whomp, Thwomp's don't have arms.

>>4320216
>Power Meter is in the shape of Mario's head
I'm a fucking moron

>>4319859
>>4319882

>>4319859
>>4319882
>>4320573

Also, this

lmfao

>>4320581
JUST

>>4320517
Anon...

Some weird building that didn't make the final cut

>>4320982
Maybe they heard about the coliseum in Final Fantasy VI and wanted to replicate it, but didn't have enough time or something?

>>4320982
>>4321006
I remember Crossfags talking about how it must have been an early concept for Chronopolis back in the early 2000's.

>>4320982
At least it was added to the DS version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyo_AXQLIdI

>>4321420
It looks like ActRaiser in that video

>>4321690
I really want to hear more of the beta arranged demo music. The instruments sound so good.

other examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esMyfcVapMU
https://soundcloud.com/yuzo_koshiro/actraiser-fillmore-opna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuRVSP0SQSk

>ywn get to play pokemon 2 when it was a buggy mess & lacked kanto

>ywn get to play the cute french artist girl

>>4321035
Those Zerg units look badass. The portraits in particular look far better than those awful 3D animations they used in the final game.

>>4320272
>FF3

What? That looks like Altair from FF2. The only beta screenshots I've seen of FF3WSC were a battle scene and the first dungeon.

>>4321806

Considering the file name says "ff2," I'm inclined to side with you on this

>>4320273
Thats not a coconut gun

Doom was originally supposed to have a "space" sky for episode 1, I'm glad they got rid of it for that beautiful atmospheric sky (even though it doesn't really make sense)

>>4322430
His real-ass gun can fire in spurts!
If he shoots ya, you're fucking dead!

>>4319840

>>4322450
Not to mention the actual texture is some mountain in South America

>>4319840

>>4319840
Early unused room in the Glassblowers' Guild in Loom

>>4321725
I'll never understand why that actraiser theme sounds so much like castlevania.

Famicom avatars, Nintendo had the idea for the Mii since the 80s.

>>4323050
lets just say yuzo likes to borrow music ideas.

>>4323516
Youzun Kojimbo is a hack fraud con artist.

Sonic R prototypes from the original dev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCvYTOxWcj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk8IKHxVDug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEl508T02qY

Sonic Xtreme/Mars/32X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYgIgRmm4M

>>4321770

looks comfy

>>4324679
Gen 1/2 had the most comfy secrets. wish they kept the skateboard in gen 2.

>>4322709
they got it from a clip-art CD-ROM, it's pic related

>>4320593

>>4324816
looks like mario punched yoshis head a few 2 many times.

>>4325528
link gets laid

>>4325528
those octos are nightmare fuel

>>4322639

>>4325895
>>4325891
>>4325887
>>4325883
>>4325880
It's clear from looking at prerelease material that Sonic was going to have a much more mysterious and whimsical atmosphere. I kinda wonder what the finished game would have been like had they not removed those elements.

>>4325906
Eh, that's nothing. I have plenty of obscure Rayman shit in a folder.

>>4325929

This one's actually kind of a bummer, Rayman's a perfect fit with the 32x, would have gotten at least one more good game on the system.

>>4325934
Is that blackface?

The original Crash Bandicoot had these Animaniacs-style cutscenes removed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d5651XSuh0

>>4325942
>A p r o x i m a t e s

>>4319859
i kinda like how dinky that yoshi looks

>>4325909
why have the key wall block the path to the castle that opens the key wall? crazy..

>>4321801
Bio 1.5 and these pictures of Tomb Raider from Game Fan magazine lead me to believe my copies of the games were bugged & missing content as a kid. I wonder if it's true that some collector is really sitting on the 90% build of 1.5

>>4325909
These bugged me as a youth, if I remember correctly. Probably what started my fascination with pre-final builds of games.

>>4326796
I still believe when they said 90% they meant the design document was complete, not the actual game. Kamiya also he had completely finished RE4 before turning into Devil May Cry but what he really meant was finished the design.

>>4321806
>>4321945
S-sorry, wrong image

And bonus FFVI pic, everybody has seen this one.

>>4325873
>>4325880
>>4325883
Sonic 1 beta is completely different and unfinished. It had 7 layers of parallax and Sonic had NO BALL or rolling i forget.

>>4325916
NO TREES but looks comfy

>>4320216
>those horrible Mario voice sounds

>>4320517
honestly, you probably knew this and just forgot

>>4319840

>>4327523
What's different from the final?

>>4327527
Not entirely sure. But this is just some advert.

>>4327395
They're placeholders from a stock Warner Bros. sound library.

>>4326796
Wait, do I see a bear?

>>4328030
Yeah the bear walks around sometimes on 2 feet in TR1.

>>4321801
forever in love with the old rcpd

>>4325573
go back to your tropes you bitch

>>4328457
Fuck off to r/eddit.

>>4328490
never used reddit, too cluttered too shit

>>4329057
You should consider starting, you will fit right in.

>>4325969

They also seemed to be experimenting with giving him a voice for Crash 2. It's real fucking bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm2mpT1GYjw

>>4325969
Shit could have been great. Animation was good and Crash being a dumbass would make for some good moments

>>4325923
>It's clear from looking at prerelease material that Sonic was going to have a much more mysterious and whimsical atmosphere.

almost all that shit is mockup pictures, like seriously a guy going "oh let's put the teetering sprite on one of the yellow panels, that looks cool." you can convey any damn thing you want with computer doctoring on your side.

>>4329071
Says the troper. Got any tales for us?

About the NES version of Sim City; I seem to remember seeing something about the ROM finally being found and possibly being dumped or being close to be dumped on /vr/ followed by the "who cares about the NES Sim City?" post. Was that just random shitposting or was there something to it?

I for one want to see how the NES port plays.

>>4330094
>destroyed a zelda cart for this
but why

feels bad man

Unreleased english version of DBZ Super Butoden 2 (titled simply "Dragon Ball" on the title screen). Has the weird names from the french version (Tara, etc).
This was supposed to come out in America around 1995 but never did.

>>4330406
what the hell
it's looks SO weird.

>>4325913
Is this the real deal or just someone fiddling around with Lunar Magic?

>>4330632
famitsu scans from 1989. There's a few more but iirc that's the only 'really' interesting one

>>4330094
Yeah, I'm dying for that dump to be made public
>>4330184
It's an official proto, a lot of them are in 'Zelda' carts, they probably had stacks of them.
>>4328457
see >>4328490

>>4325916
>>4325919

These pictures bother the hell out of me. They're like screenshots of dreams.

>>4328449
>forever in love with the old rcpd
Likewise. I get why it was scrapped due to it being so pedestrian and not filled with many puzzles(?) but as a fan of Robocop I just love the aesthetic.

>>4327523
>>4327527
It was a different game released called Rayman Brain Games

>>4330408
and nothing of value

>>4330406

>>4331740
thats a fucked up looking rabbit

>>4331756

>>4331757
Rocket Knight + Rockman

>>4319937
>>4319915
>>4320216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IikM_L6tUqQ

This game had so much potential.
I thought it looked better as isometric than that 3D crap they came out with.

>>4331740
>Genre: Jump & Run

kek

>>4331730
Super Butoden 2 is one of the best DBZ games.
Luckily I could get a bootleg japanese copy back in the day, so I didn't miss it even if it was only released in Japan and Europe.

>>4331894
>one of the best dragon ball
yeah...

Some more beta Rayman stuff... With a Vengeance. Part 1/5 from a french Disney magazine revolving Rayman 3.

>>4331915
Part 2/5

>>4331894
Butoden is a fun game. One of the better DBZ games.

>>4331920
Part 3/5
Don't worry, the more interesting stuff is next.

>>4331924
Part 4/5
Some concept art of the enemies. Well, the first half of it.

>>4331896
Do you even meteo crash?

>>4331921
The 2nd one is pretty good, the first Butoden got all the defining ideas but didn't implement it quite right.

>>4331927
Part 5/5. The most interesting part of them all: Early super costumes for Rayman, and the other half of the enemy concept art.

>>4331932
Sonofabitch, forgot the page. Pic was compressed due to being over the size limit.

>>4331924
wow these are awesome!

>>4331928
Hilarious meme. Almost worth watching a Toei anime for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPO7c_XmesU

>>4332229
I didn't even know what Toei was back then.
I watched the original Dragon Ball back in the 90s and enjoyed it. Glad internet memes didn't ruin it for me.

>>4332275
So you're basically confirming that your judgement is clouded by nostalgia

>>4328490
You don't even know how to bypass the spam filter, you god damn newfag.

>>4332279
Reading comprehension much?
I said I'm glad internet memes didn't ruin a series I enjoyed.

Anyway, take that stick out of your anus, anon. Let other people enjoy stuff, your taste isn't good anyway.

>>4332286
Projecting much?

>>4332374
post proto/beta stuff about games. Nobody cares that you don't like DB. Go post on /a/ or something.

Don't let this thread die

My dream is the public release of this prototype

>>4332378
>nobody cares
You cared enough to reply :^)

>>4333673
He just told you to post on topic stuff or GTFO, it's true that nobody cares about your personal opinions.

>>4333690
>nobody cares
You cared enough to reply :^)

>>4333690
Dang, poor Kimba never had a chance.

>>4333703
a-at least we got The Lion King game from Virgin... I guess.

>>4331928
Butoden 2 for Super Famicom was such a good game back in the day. I'd kill to get my hands on that English Translation that's shown on those mag scans

beta Hoppip is cute, CUTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9g856WXSYc

Does Masa's Original MIDI demos for Sonic 1 and 2 count. This is dreamy and comfy

>>4334062
he looks very derpy lmfao

>>4330184
>>4330772
From what I read Nintendo grossly overestimated how zelda 2 would sell. So they ended up with stacks of empty gold cartridge shells and cut the up for dev carts

>>4330883
say capcom really had a hardon for puzzles back in the day
>but as a fan of Robocopt I just love the aesthetic.
My man you 've got great taste

>>4334147
It is really weird though, because the songs in the nick arcade beta sound totally different from his released demos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6SzBJe-NDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZRPXiqM-Ng

>>4327559
the terranigma manual was filled with these screenshits that had a very different UI from the final game
underage me thought it was a secret hard mode or something, it bugged me so much

>>4321420
Why is Japanese David Byrne presenting it?

>>4325942
I know valve said they canned it because it would've fell short of being a fun game, but I still think the concept is solid. I remember people were talking about things like the pyro having a semi-realistic flamethrower that caused flames to spew out from the point of impact and fill rooms like bunkers to clear them out, but if he was shot in the back, his flame tank would hiss and explode.

Things like needing a spotter for sniping and engineers being able to supply ammo/maintenance to heavy weapons guys to speed up reloads/barrel changes were pretty cool too.

>>4327075
A lot of that is in the game in some form or fashion though.

>Sprites all exist with some minor changes to infantry.
>Voxel based vehicles retain their shape but get more detail (bottom part of the artillery/MRLS)

I don't recognize the NOD double barrel tank though.

There were a lot of features that didn't make it in the game though, like light level affecting fog of war and weapon range, spotlights helping counter that, and garrisonable buildings to make city fighting primarily the domain of infantry.

>>4327358
>tfw rumors say sega wanted to include this in SMC but couldnt find the source code

it hurts my dude

>>4319859
You sure this isn't a meme or aren't rusing me?
That yoshi looks too bad to be an actual beta.
Source of this pic?

>>4321770

I'm glad Iwata turned it around, it's definitely wouldn't have been the same without the morning/day/night system and kanto

>>4335369
It's legit lol

https://gamingreinvented.com/news/original-super-mario-world-sprites-reveal-early-version-yoshi/

Looks like a Jim Henson character desu haha

I'd love to play RE 1.5, I dig the creepy blue police station a lot.
I'd also love to play the RE 3.5 beta with ghosts and shit but... not retro.

>>4335391
Shit, you're right.

Thanks for the source, I love reading about beta shit in videogames.
Sometimes there's creepy shit or entire interesting content like sprites or worlds.

>>4335405
beta and unused assets are why I love retro gaming so much. There's just plenty of shit left to discover that's been a part of our childhood

>>4335420
It's good when fans recreate prototypes

>>4335393
Isn't the disc image for a playable demo of 1.5 widely available?

I just... want to live there

The reason Marle who has ice magic in the final game is depicted using fire in the cover is because the art was based on a beta screenshot

>>4337370
the location that screen is supposed to take place was also cut content and later restored in the DS version, the music track was dope

>>4319859
So that's why baby Yoshi looks so fucking weird
>>4320581
wew lad

Magazine screenshot of an early and unused special stage from Sonic CD. Maybe it was a prototype of the one special stage with the waterfalls and mountains in the distance?

Got this from /v/, apparently basing Snake's codec portrait off the early concept art wasn't the best.

>>4320581

Oh /vr/. Sometimes, I really do love you (no homo).

Got some Unreal Beta screens here.
Most are old scans from magazines, hence the lower quality...

Next two are REALLY early - ripped from a prototype build. None of this content made it into the final game, as far as I'm aware.

This one is quite close to release, but the level was cut.

As was this one.

Final one, again from a near-final build. A few minor differences in the inventory, but not much.

I wonder if any one can tell me what version of the game this is from. I know of course because I have the copy.

>>4327112
That's more likely a concept of what became Xenogears, they canned early development of it for the PS and it wasn't until after FFVII in it's different form came out did Takahashi resurrect it

>>4327075
wut

>>4327112
never seen this

The Kirby's Adventure beta palettes are like a mainline of nostalgia

>>4328030
>I never played TR

Fun Fact: This is the closest thing for a decent sequel for Re-Volt. The IP has been bought by WeGo in around 2011, and made 2 shitty Re-Volt sequels, one of them is actually the same game as the original, but with a shitty UI & microtransactions.

I love these type of developer insight videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt-AxAqlrOo

>>4339647
God, i'm glad they change this picture

>>4342405
This is legit? I like it

>>4319859
ORIGINAL YOSHO!!! LOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>4343087
>>>/reddit/

>>4343118
>>>/s4s/

>>4343068
This game was fun

https://youtu.be/058JQUM3t6s

Not beta screenshots, but unused assets. There's a whole bunch of cut stuff relating to Honey Bee Inn on the discs for the original JP release of FFVII.

>>4340960
This is from the N64 version of Re-Volt.

>>4320216
>only six years between development of Super Mario World and Super Mario 64

funny ain't it

>>4327075
I didn't realize Sim City was going to be so violent.

>>4321420
I would like to explore that map.

These are probably just mock-ups, but still pretty rad.

>>4337295
Why these beta pictures always look better then our realesed versions?

>>4346993
FOG

there is like 10 trees in that forest

>>4347157
15

>>4330094
Maybe soon

>>4347631

>>4347631

>>4347631
Awesome, bro!
Hope you've enjoyed it.
Is it Any different, or is it a direct port from PC?

>>4347680
I'm not Frank and I have no idea if he plans to release the dump

>>4347631
Cannot have?

>>4347680
There is literally a gameplay video on the internet right now that shows that it isn't a direct port.
Come on, man.

>>4320216

>>4320581
Dying

beta night

edgy

>>4349220
This one looks more badass

>>4349219
spoopy

>>4340829
Resident Evil VII Beta 1

>>4340829
Biohazard Sample Ver. 11/17.

>>4340758
Dat blocky ASS

>>4323193
That's the problem with Nintendo. They finally got their ideas out the door and have no fucking idea what to do now.

>>4345150
I love this damn game.
I dont care if people claim the graphics are shit, it has its own unique style thats transcends graphics being outdated

>>4334875
thats probably recorded at 50hz

>>4331775
never forget where you came from

Hell, the back of the Goldeneye box is beta heaven. Look at those old screenshots

>>4351479
Hue hue BR

deathtrap dungeon

>>4351567
Who's me?

>>4351568
Some guy who wants credit for recoloring.

>>4351479
Old KF7 looks neat

>>4351408
beta is the best magic in ff7 but makes the game easymode

>>4340829
Care to say which version? I guessed 11/17, but based on the positioning of the crest, it seems like not. So, somewhere between 10/04 and 11/17.

>>4321031
It's definitely possible. Cross's team would've had easy access to Trigger's concepts and I can see them throwing in ideas that hit the cutting room floor.

>>4325528
Those are some cute octoroks.

>>4325923
When I first played Sonic it was mysterious and whimsical.
We're just extremely used to the games as they are.

beta metal slug was tank only

>>4352356
I'm very fine with that.

>>4335229
Fuck I would have loved lighter red colored infantry for nod. They look so facist and dystopian on this, I love it.

Also those more pale colored muzzleflashes on the infantry that look kinda realistic, the ones in the game just looked too video-gamey (saturated yellow, red). Based on the nod soldier shooting the MRLS on the right it looks like they may have originally been planned to shoot projectiles (white laser blasts?).

Also really like the directional muzzle flash on the walker on the left, and the distinct LACK of the laser dot bs that was used for it in place of giving it a projectile. Yeah I know the 120mm probably fired an APDS but they could've used a quick sliver-shaped projectile for it instead of the ubiquitous golden dot.

>>4331775
I don't know what game this was but if it came out around the time I think it did (are we talking '97 or '98 here?) then OMG what a fuckup in potential. This could have been like Dark Souls or some shit.
> the quality of the texture art, not in terms of res but in terms of beauty and realism.

Just imagine how prolific this could have been, if it was a different game.

>>4352418
ultima 9 before it went 3d

>>4321783
she was in Crystal Shards and Dream Land 3....... you could play her in the minigames for CS

>>4326205
This is Monster Party yes? It was translated into English .-.

>>4351439
I always found the chibi-esque models very charming. They make the wackier moments of the game so much better.

bump

>>4352356
I would love to play this version

>>4322450
Doom have a nice collection of betas

>>4355945
"TOM IS KING"

>>4340781
Kinda weird seeing a screenshot cropped from an issue of PC Action that was scanned by me.

Maybe I still have to original image for that page...

>>4356491
Ha, found it! Dated to January 13, 2013.

>>4340906
>The Water warped the backgrounds

Neat

>>4352282
Most of the enemy skills are broken, and just take up 1 slot.

>>4352307
It's the 1/31 sample that is the whole game complete for both characters with different enemy placements and amounts for each character, way more acid rounds for Jill, less shotgun ammo but more handgun ammo for Chris, different difficulties (besides the aforementioned amounts enemies also take way less or way more bullets), different item places and there are a different kind of ammo called dumdum rounds for the magnum, you only get one ink ribbon at a time and it is also used like the MO Disk, and there are only 3 crests to open the back door. I'm sure there are other things but it's been awhile since I played it

>>4356492
dude nice i miss magazines. A lot of them had beta screens but we never knew at the time.

>>4356625
You might like this Settlers 2 gallery:
http://kultcds.com/Upload/Siedler2/

I can post more such galleries if wanted.

>>4356653
Post, please

>>4356625
>Club Nintendo

Oh man.

>>4357424
Here's one for Starcraft:
http://blizzardarchive.com/pub/Images/Screens/Sc1_2/clean.html

>>4357446
I miss that

>>4351479
Goldeneye is a beta gold mine
https://tcrf.net/GoldenEye_007_(Nintendo_64)

>>4352418
Ultima IX

The list of features they had stripped out was insane, and all of it was perfectly doable and had been done in all of the previous games (minus VIII because fuck that one, too).

The back of the box on Ultima VII bothered me, too. I never once saw that giant turtle pull up next to a building like that. I'm guessing it was from beta or development.

>>4360425
Don't you mean a beta gold eye?

>>4361221
Badumtss

>>4360442
Serpent Isle was also gutted by EA.
http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_Material_in_Serpent_Isle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcwheUUzHZE

Daily reminder that prototype hoarders deserve to be robbed and assaulted. I'll bet there's a treasure trove of unheard music and unseen sprites in that cart.

>>4331775
This graphic style does something to me. I really get the itch to play an isometric game with polygon models now. Any suggestions?

>>4335218
Really, there was almost NO tacticool large scale multiplayer FPS games back in 2000. It looked pretty damn cool, too bad it never came to light.

>>4330406
I know that feel.

>>4319915
>:(

>>4351890
So any vr user

>>4361818
Wow this video takes me back. This dude needs to dump this rom already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UN_pN9ZU8Y&feature=youtu.be

sega VR

>>4362075
>a cyberpunk murder mystery
damn this shit would have been peak 90's cyberpunk kino if it came out. Looks great

>>4330406
>>4330414

It's ridiculous because Ristar ended up being one of Sega's most timeless character designs but he started out as this fucking mutant. Dodged a bullet.

>>4362150

>>4361818
is this guy selling his prototype cart? That data needs to be archived and collect dust in his collection

>>4362531
*not collect dust

>>4352385
>>4354932

it's interesting because the first metal slug is still effectively tank only if you're good enough, because you're given a metal slug early in every stage and there's nothing stopping you from taking it to the end other than your ability.

Metal Slug 1 really is all about the metal slug, it's a shame it got shafted in the sequels because it's the most interesting part of the series.

>>4362531
Apparently he hasn't been heard from in years.

>>4362807
welp maybe he's dead and that prototype cartridge is long gone in some trash compactor somewhere

>>4361818

>>4363187
lol ive been wanting a dump of vertexer for the last decade

I like the beta stalfos better

>>4340763
That one kinda looks like a render rather than screenshot, judging from the blurriness of it.

Speaking of old FPSes, this shot that used to be on id Software's site always bothered me as a kid because of the weapon. I guess not all of the viewmodels had been tightened up when they took this screenshot, and it's obviously after QTest since this is the last room of E1M3,

>>4356573
It was a pain getting all spells on all 3 materia though. Annoyed me that you couldn't just cast it on your party member.

Question:

Are beta-kiddies one of the worst blights on the retrogaming community?

>>4364058
no hoarders and collectorcucks are much worse

>>4364074
At least they have a chance of contributing stuff. I know people complain about him, but didn't shoutime play a part in releasing an unreleased arcade game? Or am I dreaming? I'm a hoarder/collector, and I've actually released some prototypes of games. Beta-kiddies tend to just bitch, harass, or lie about having this or that prototype.

>>4364105
i see your point. Good on you for actually making a backup and preserving something but many people wont or they are too dumb and would destroy the cart in the process. I think shoutime does make backups of his rare arcade boards but I dont think he has ever released anything to the public. I mean if you dont want to be harassed by kids online dont brag on the internet about your rare prototype. Some people are very dumb about dev stuff and shouldnt have their hands anywhere near this stuff. I know pic related is not retro but its just an example.

>>4364115
>hur this shit PC case is a prototype x-box guys
Go back to wondering why no one is following you on twitter, asshole.

>>4363301
What is that

>>4364254
Quake?

>>4363237
I don't agree, the realesed version is more menacing

>>4364254
Quake. That weapon is supposed to be the Super Nailgun.

>>4337370
That's really neat.

>Branka

>>4366950
How'd they fuck that one up. I know the whole Japanese L/R thing, but even still they were just trying to copy the arcade version which got it right.

Based on the date, it seems like this is or is close to the version previewed at CES 1992.

>>4367051
Note the wings.

>>4367051
>>4367053
>hoarders can't into aspect raidou

Seems to check out.

>>4360425
I would love to play/see more of the rail shooter version of this game

>>4367053
jesus fuck stop raping my eyes

>>4367063
>>4367880
Not my photos, kids. There's videos on YouTube of it which are captured from an emulator:

https://youtu.be/efzj52WPp_s

>>4367983
Crazy

>>4355945
Baron of Hell was one of the first demon made

>>4351539
Lara Croft cameo

Firechu

>>4372235

Shoulda kept him desu

>>4372235
Is this a real footage?

>>4373352
yep
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Pokémon_Gold_and_Silver

>>4373361
Neat

>>4320581
>yoshi is not aspie

>>4336278
needs racoon tail

>>4372298
that is some poor, abused pokemon

>>4372371
So, we know that at one point they'd committed this build to development cartridges and displayed them to the public. Think all of those EPROMs were reused to hold later versions, or are some still floating around at Nintendo, Pokemon Company, or in the attic of a game developer with sticky fingers?

>>4320581
Almost a month later, but thanks for that.

>>4375370
Screw that, gimme beta Red/Green so I can see which Pokémon were in the original 190 batch with their original Japanese names, and find out what the deleted town was.

>>4326796
There's a collector with a full unreleased Beatles album that refuses to release the music (he only plays parts of it to his rich jack-off friends at parties), so anything is possible.

>>4353372
But the American version was the heavily censored one, every level other than the first one was supposedly whitewashed. The Japanese version was reportedly made and is presumably sitting in some Japanese guy's attic somewhere.

>>4375741
they didnt have enough memory for 190. I would like to see some of the dropped mechanics like trainers being able to fight which is why sabrina has a whip.

>>4375896
>they didnt have enough memory for 190.

Uh, yes they did? And even if they don't on the final ROM, what makes you think any beta debug ROM with the original 190 and the early Pokédex still intact resembles in any way the final binary? You know the trivia behind the MissingNOs, right?

>>4372371
This looks real badass

>>4375904
beta if true

>>4375941
>>4375941
That guy would've been a bug/fighting type in gen 1, if I remember correctly? Pretty OP.

>>4375982
too bad pin missile is such a shitty move

>>4375941
Is this proto-Heracross? Where did you get this?

>>4376020
no its beta weedle

>>4375893
A prototype of the Japanese version was dumped within the past couple years.

>>4375904
The sad truth about prototypes is that many of them are either final/effectively final or approaching it. Very early and very different prototypes are rather uncommon to find, and you can probably multiply that by a few factors if it is a first party Nintendo game. If a prototype of the first generation games were ever found, chances are it would be a final version prototype, an in-development localization, or a mostly complete preview ROM that might have a few minor differences. All cool, surely, but the chances of tracking down a drastically different or very incomplete Japanese version are quite slim. And if one ever showed up somewhere, you can bet that mouthbreathing clickbait writers would hype the shit out of it to the point that it would either sell to a moneybags hoarder or Nintendo would step in and have the listing closed.

is this old enough?

>>4376148

>>4376153

>>4376148
Read the sticky, faggot.

>>4376163

>>4376164
these screenshots are from 1999 and earlier, though

>>4376170
So read the sticky, again. Games RELEASED after 2000 are no bueno.

Report and ignore.

>>4376148
I like it
>>4376195
explain sonic adventure 2 being allowed

>>4376214
It is allowed based on release date of the console.

>>4376226
halo runs on windows 98se so i guess it is allowed ;-)

>>4376250
Goddamnit are you stupid. PC has a hard cutoff date of December 31, 1999.

>>4376253
And yet Diablo 2 gets discussed frequently.

>>4376261
Report it and they will get rightfully banned.

>>4376274
announcing reports is against the rulez dude chillax

>>4376170
i'd kill a puppy to explore these builds

>>4376292
That's not a beta screenshot.

>>4376323
why is link hair red then?

>>4376404
that's a cap and that's not link, it's from bs ancient stone tablets

>>4376417
It's not even a cap. It's the female avatar, who has red hair.

>>4339647
His eyes look like colonels

>>4376423
you're correct

Duke 3D alpha aka "LameDuke"

>>4376650
>we will never get all of those pre-final builds of Duke 3D that were supposed to be released after that company whose name I forget apparently gained the rights to Duke, but then weren't released because later it came to be that they didn't have the rights
Why. EVEN. Live?

>>4376650
It's really a "lame" version of this game

>>4376137
It is not a first party nintendo game. It is second Party. Remember that Gamefreak makes Pokemon, not nintendo.

>>4375741
190 pokemon were meant to happen. The unused cries and the space for 190. I remember Pokemon 2 GS was going to have at least 80 more. Then it became 100.

>>4378030

>>4378052
Gen II designs looked so much better with more detailed hand draw artstyle. Pokemon designs look so dumb to me after gen 3.

>>4331757
>>4331767
Kinda looks like Mighty no.9

>>4360425
>There will never be a George Lazenby/OHMSS bond game.

>>4378151

That's because the dude in charge of Pokemon art and design started phoning it in (and straight-up ran out of ideas around Gen V). Pokemon should have stopped with the DS at the very very latest.

>>4378151
Pokemon has multiple designers. The core artist criticized the Pokemon was getting overcomplicated in design during gen 5. That's why they make few new ones and make them less full of lines and stuff like the first gen. Gens 6 and 7 designs are mostly minimalist.

>>4378151
gen 1 is so detailed, yea

>>4378416
not to mention most gen 6-7 mons are designed in a way that fully exploits their 3D nature and the more complex animations. Stuff like Aegislash changing from shield to sword, Mimikyu's dummy neck breaking, the Tapus closing their shells and others would have looked kind of awkward in old gen graphics.

>>4378465
I meant the hand drawn art was more detailed while still being simple and pleasing to look at. if that makes sense.

>>4375896
Sabrina with black hair would be very interesting, yes.

>>4375896

I thought the whip thing was because Game Freak intended trainers to be more like animal trainers you'd see at a zoo during development.

>>4378508
>Sugimori: At one time, the protagonist would fight as well. But then we asked ourselves “If you can fight on your own, what’s the point of having Pokémon?”

It started as more of an traditional rpg where the trainer leveled up instead of the pokemon.

>>4378551
Pokemon in your army could had died as well. Mirage Pokemon who rarely appear could be in the grass before trading and mythicals existed. Also most of the game in early stage was monsters or monster animals. Think house size godzillas.

The concept of evos came later.

>>4378030
They became various species of missingno

>>4379751

>>4365250
Everything in the released OoT looks much better desu. The beta stuff just looked like some awkward SM64 romhack, which makes sense considering the older iterations of the engine were made out of that game.

>>4380940
You say that as if the final Ocarina of Time ISN'T running a modified Super Mario 64 engine.
Which is wrong.

>>4380960
I'm aware that even the final game is still built out of SM64, but the engine was tweaked and refined so much throughout development that it barely carries over much of its archetype's dna.

>>4380940
The final release have a darker tone

>>4325901

>>4383331
Chaotix & Knuckles could have been Sonic 4 if they spent like 6 more months in development and added a few more levels and released it as a launch title for Saturn.

>>4372298
I'm still hoping future games will make him into a real mon as a reference.

>>4376292
Is he holding a hamburger?

>>4383358
She's holding an Ancient Stone Tablet.

>>4383358
Considering how much health the player has in that magazine scan, it may be some kind of in-development shot after all.

>>4376046
Good to know that they have changed, these design was awful

quest 64

>>4385651

>>4385651
>>4385670
I wonder if this game could have ended up being good if it got all the dev time it needed