/vr/ - Retro Games

Because it was cheap and easy.

>>4316315
This. They should have made it a rental store if they were serious about the whole "play it til you beat it then return it" thing. If not, boo hoo, the store owner still accepted their money

>g-give it back, we were only lending it to you!
if japs actually think like this I have no sympathy for them.

Faggot Japanese numales received a taste of freedom. Fuck them. Two nukes weren't enough.

>>4316315
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>>4316330
Fucking collectors. You can't even read the games.

>>4316332
>not learning moon

The problem is their own backwards laws, renting games is forbidden in Japan.

>>4316335
I did. Did you?

>>4316312
Why haven't they accepted more Muslim immigrants? It's almost the year 2018.

>>4316337
no

>>4316337
I'm still grinding cards on 暗記

>>4316332
I am strictly flashcarts and cd-r's, I just think it's absurd to get mad at paying customers for being paying customers and not following some arbitrary unspoken rule they may not be aware of, that likely wasn't even an unspoken rule until whoever decided to get mad at foreigners buying their games for whatever reason.

>>4316332
But I can

https://kotaku.com/5914749/why-you-cant-rent-games-in-japan

>>4316365
>unironically linking to shittaku

Are we suggesting that the Japanese, who think less their own old things as a cultural thing, are not to blame for both pricing the games very lowly and for willingly opening their wallets to foreign money?

>>4316312
You realize it's your own Japanons fault for constantly recommending to people buying the Japanese region carts over the US versions. I always see weabo niggers telling others to buy Japanese Super Metroid for example since the rom is technically the same.

>>4316312
>Why did you do this?

Pour le money.

>>4316365

To be fair, most games I import don't have english versions. I know someone that makes yearly trips and comes back with suitcases full of stuff though and they collect for shit like MSX and PC Engine

>>4316312
Because they're jews.

>>4316396
I don't get it. Piracy is so easy on the MSX

>>4316312
>running a business that is balanced precariously on the good will of customers and expecting them to return the stock
lol, how is that my problem

>>4316402
He likes retro computers more than consoles, don't ask me

>>4316312
So basically "why globalism?" the post

>>4316409
It makes sense for them because rarely people can afford to stockpile games or manga so it gets sold to a second hand shop.

Now, you have westerners with limitless living space who can buy entire boxes of games and hoard them which ruins the business. The most reasonable response would be raising the price but japan is japan and it would makes things for locals more troublesome so it's the gajins who get booted off.

>>4316434
except they definitely ARE raising the prices, have been to akihbara recently?

>>4316434
Why should it be my responsibility to facilitate the charitable nature of a business?
it should either be a charity or a business, how am I expected to subscribe to these strange culture niches when shopping there?
Retro gaming is a collectors hobby mostly also, which means most people who buy collectors items are going to keep said items for their collection.

White pig hoarders go to hell!
Japan is high trust society to superme honourable samurai gentlemen

>>4316312
>Chrono Trigger, Earthbound
is not like those games japanese version have much demand to begin with.

This has been going on for years and anyone slightly in the know has been aware of it.

If you want a thread to discuss this then make one, don't start by copy pasting some dumb clickbait article into greentext and expect everyone to play along.

>>4316524
>anyone slightly in the know

How do you get in the know? Is living in Japan a good start?

>>4316532
you don't even need to, you could just import or ask someone to act as a proxy

>>4316315
>>4316323
>>4316329
>>4316330

Why do murricans get so retarded defensive when you challenge them on anything?

>>4316550
sounds to me like the japabetas are the ones that are getting challenged, and they're getting fucked as usual like we did to them in hiroshima

>>4316332
>he doesn't know moonrunes

It's basically everybodys fault.

Foreign retro gamers buying the Japanese versions since they're cheaper then the US/EU counterparts (like Mega Man etc.) and/or collecting Japanese exclusively.

Foreign resellers - selling obviously the stuff out of Japan

Japanese hoarders - yes there are plenty of them. Why only have one copy of Sapphire for PC Engine if you can have a whole box of it!

Japanese resellers - they saw that they can make good money on Ebay, so they do.
Even Yahoo Japan is cancer nowadays when it comes to retro gaming or arcade pcbs.


the only safe heaven left (supposedly) is Mercari.
and everybody probably knows by now that Akihabara, Nakano and Nagoya are tourist traps by now.


last time I was at Friends it was raided quite bad...

>>4316312
People who hoard cartridges are faggots. Either emulate or buy the game and resell it after you're done.

>>4316312
so if I buy something, I'm expected to return it for a lower price later? is this the japanese consumer ethic?

>>4316438
Right? If you aren't a collector why even bother with physical carts nowadays anyway? You can download the entire snes library (or anything cart based) in 2 minutes and play it on pretty much any electronic device imaginable including original hardware via a flashcart.

Paying $300 for a piece of plastic and silicon that says "earthbound" on it while only being willing to pay 50 cents for another identical piece of plastic and silicon that says "Madden '95" is absurd when the only difference between the two is a piece of software that can be freely and quickly accessed and copied from the internet.

>>4316691
(you)

>>4316719
>Right? If you aren't a collector why even bother with physical carts nowadays anyway?
Emulation sucks. Input lag, improper scaling, emulation inaccuracies, etc. I'd rather have a physical copy of the game to play on real hardware.

>Paying $300 for a piece of plastic and silicon that says "earthbound" on it
I don't do this. I don't even like Earthbound. Most of the games I enjoy are considerably affordable.

>>4316312
Nobody's buying jap rpg's unless they can read it and that has to be an absurdly low number considering the trip and everything else involved.

>>4316693

I don't think anyone understands the issue here because OP intentionally portrayed in the most controversial possible way.

The simple truth is that the Japanese retro game economy was not meant to sustain hundreds of thousands of foreigners swooping in, buying games in droves, and taking them out of the country. Not that many games were produced, because they were meant for consumption in Japan. The fact that renting games in Japan is generally illegal is a contributing factor, but not the main issue.

>>4316312
>Foreign Jews ruin innocent japanese stores
Good job guys, the nose knows am I right?

>>4316752
I don't see the dilemma really. Either keep them or sell them.

>>4316761

The dilemma is that there is no financially accessible, reliable way to preserve video games today. Emulation is entirely an amateur effort, and consoles/console games are a very finite and increasingly expensive resource. Until people start taking video games seriously enough to create a legacy platform, this problem will only become worse, and by the time it happens we will probably have lost scores of games to history.

>>4316752
I dont have any other hobbies that can revolve around collecting a finite supply of desirable items, but do people get this bent out of shape about coin collectors swooping up every silver penny they can find, or baseball card collectors hoarding desirable cards, or stamp or toy collectors?

If people are willing to pay reseller's prices, that's what the games are worth. If you can't afford to pay, you can't afford to play. Jesus christ, I'm just imagining how car fags would react if some idiot was going around complaining about how unfair it is that some millionaire has ten original Shelby Cobras and he can't even afford one.

>>4316768
Yeah I agree. Wish emulators weren't mostly relegated to amateur hour. From a preservation standpoint software hacks shouldn't be acceptable.

>>4316768
>consoles/console games are a very finite and increasingly expensive resource

This really is a non-issue. Retro gaming is a pretty niche hobby, so I can't imagine a need for any such market to sustain millions upon millions of people. And it's incredibly unlikely that future generations are going to give a shit about owning real hardware when emulation is so readily accessible to them on their smartphones and other newfangled devices.

>>4316768
What worthwhile games can you not find roms for on emuparadise, right this fucking second?
>muh Nintendo games
Yeah, and Nintendo has downloaded all these roms and preserved them on a hard drive somewhere before serving their cease and desist, I mean wasn't it proven that a lot of virtual console games were just ripped from the internet because of the way the headers were coded or whatever? Emulation is preserving history just fine.

And doesn't John Hancock plan on turning his collections into an actual museum someday? I think he's said he's got complete libraries of the 3 Nintendo cartridge systems and the tg16, and probably most of the genesis. That's a damn good start.

Serious Question.

Are Flash Carts common in Japan? I mean obviously they are known, but do many Japanese retro gamers use them?

>>4316824
Apparently not enough. They do get price raped on everything imaginable though so they're probably a lot more expensive there.

>>4316784
Japanese PC games are pretty rare.

What's even the point of traveling to Japan these days? It's basically just "San Francisco 2: Asia Edition".

Why isn't N$ reproducing some old modules?

>>4316845
Pretty much this.

>>4316845

All industrialized countries eventually become bizarro-world reflections of America

>>4316845
>It's basically just "San Francisco 2: Asia Edition".
Complete with gaggles of loud, millennial Americans. What an adventure.

>>4316312
Someone doesn't know the definition of plunder.

>>4316845
It's basically a Vancouver in East Asia.

>>4316830
>They do get price raped on everything imaginable

Yes and no. New media tends to be pretty expensive in Japan, but their product standards and quality of manufacturing are also much higher to match. Every CD is practically a special edition and often includes bonus tracks, is printed on quality, brand-name discs or enhanced discs, and contains a novel's worth of information within their inserts. Here in the US, you can walk into Walmart and find a new CD for maybe USD$10, but it's going to be some flimsy piece of shit that was produced in Mexico, is riddled with misprints and grammatical errors, and has a mere two-page fold-out insert that contains only the copyright information and nothing else.

That isn't to say that budget lines don't exist in Japan, though. Video games often see reprints like "The Best" or "PSOne Books." Those may be contained in more flimsy packaging, but are also priced appropriately for what they are. Japan also has games that are developed on stricter budgets to be sold at more modest prices, like the Simple 1500 Series or Sega Ages.

>>4316892
Glorious Nippon plastic, folded over a thousand times.

I agree though. Special or limited edition stuff here is usually even less desirable than standard. PS1 green labels are a bane of my existence.

>>4316892

That's not to mention that packaging quality for games is just so much higher. Apart from generally better box art, the games often include full-color manuals, inserts and artbooks that are usually omitted from North American releases.

>>4316640
I do. The point is that you don't.

>>4316845
>japan is a city

>>4316958
You know nothing about me, shitposter.

>>4316975
Sorry, master weeb.

>>4316312
I bought a Japanese Mega Drive and Saturn in Japan, and a bunch of Saturn games I wanted to play.
I have a flash cart for the mega drive, but it's much cheaper to buy Saturn games in Japan than from PAL/US copies.
I bought games I actually intend to play and enjoy, or ones that were 99y curios or in abundance that I really loved on my PAL Saturn (VF collection, etc).

I'm not reselling, but I suppose a couple of games I bought could be seen as 'hoarding', but it's a small number (~5 games I really wanted to own because I like the series).

>>4316312
>Those shops sustained themselves so far from second-hand copies Japanese gamers would buy, play for a while, and then resell back to the same store (or other stores in Akibahara) when they're done with it. But this doesn't work out anymore when the customer is a foreigner who'd take the game overseas and never "return" it, much less so thousands of those customers.

You can't even "return" it if you're a gaijin.
I tried, they won't let you unless you have a japanese ID card.

>>4316974
A typical tourist like this guy >>4316845 sees only few parts of few specific cities in Japan. The metaphor might as well be true.

>>4316865
are you not a millennial?

>>4316987
I was gonna disagree cause I could easily sell back anything I bought. But then I remembered they wanted my residence card.

>>4316312
Never heard of a shop mad that people are buying what they're selling. Is it a jap thing?

>>4317035
I don't know if it's the japs that are mad, or just weeaboos that are butthurt because they can't find their import games for cheap anymore.

>>4317053
Has to be the latter. You'd think the cheapness is offset by the fucking plane ticket.

>>4316315
Japan has some very fucked up laws concerning rentals. In most cases, it's illegal.

>>4316670
Those poor businesses!

Someone finally bought all of their shit the poor fools! If only it wasn't for sale!

>>4316312

So you are bitching that...a store able to permanently sell its wares? I would blame Japan's stupid game rental laws and it's loopholes, not foreign consumers.

whaitu piggu go home

>>4317343
Isn't it due to Nintendo's pressuring? Didn't they try to do the same here?

>>4316312
>Akibahara
Who wrote this? It's Akihabara.

Thank god for Japan's rental laws! They saved video games!
After all, we all know the videogame industry crumbled due to piracy all around the world... except in Japan.
Oh, wait... no it didn't.

>>4317435
Some redditor.

KILL WHITEY!!

>>4316974
>Japan isn't a megacity

>>4316437
This, the actual scalpers are the Akihabara shopkeepers so this is some serious hypocrisy.

>>4316892

All the insert books are nice any everything but I still don't feel like Id be terribly happy to pay 80 bucks for 2 episodes of anime

>>4316312
I literally only ever bought a sealed Biohazard 2 for my bro because it's his favorite game.

>>4316312
Why are White people such hoarders?

>>4318485
we need to fill the void with something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5fwlJwAWYA

>>4318485
>white with capital W
the fuck out pls

Why the heck would you sell a game that you intend to play again later?

>>4316312
>buying shit in Tokyo

you deserve to get ripped off

>>4318485
Because wypipo have jobs.

>>4316915
>Special or limited edition stuff here is usually even less desirable than standard. PS1 green labels are a bane of my existence.

Reseller scum detected.

Enjoy dying in an empty house at 50 with nine unsold copies of Earthbound tucked under your mattress.

>>4319080
>>buying shit in Tokyo
>you deserve to get ripped off
But its the West that is getting ripped off by full time resellers charging retarded prices for everything that isn't a sports game. I had to quit collecting and start making my own reproduction carts just so I could finish my collections

>when you buy something you don't actually own it
>instead, you're expected to sell it back dirt cheap, so that the store can sell it again and again forever, making infinite money
>if you don't subscribe to this idea, you're a brutish westerner who doesn't understand noble japanese culture
as usual, people are trying to make corporate ideology pass as some kind of ancient asian wisdom. as the brutish westerner I am, I'm still going to treat things I buy as my own personal property, though.

>>4319091
Not quite. Just been burned enough times on ebay.

>>4316312
>Akibahara's stores

Your story broke down right there. Akihabara is an international tourist trap. Virtually everything sold there leaves the country. Nobody expects anything sold there to be resold to the same store. If that was their business structure they would just rent out the games in the first place.

Most of the people here are missing the point.

First of all, japs resell their games precisely because they can't rent. If you bought a game that's "just okay" and you've beaten it, it makes sense to resell it and make some money back, because not everyone has a pathological need to have a game collection that takes up a whole room in the house.

The underlying reason why this is a problem is because there is no professional effort to conserve retro games. The consoles these games are for have been discontinued and are breaking down by the day. Retro game conservation is largely amateur, held up by flawed, reverse-engineered emulators and illegal ROM/ISO rips that could be taken offline by legal action any second. Inevitably many games will eventually be lost. This is already happening with retro games for Japanese PCs, arcade-only games, digital indie releases, and doujin games released in limited print runs.

A professional effort to preserve retro games would lead to the proliferation of official emulation programs and hardware capable of playing games for older systems, and the reprinting of such games at much more reasonable prices than you will ever find in Akiba.

But until people start taking video games as seriously as films or music (and the fanbase isn't helping with that), this will continue to be a problem, and will only get worse with time.

Of course, many neckbeards will read this post and think "hurr who cares I just want to play Crash Team Racing and imagine I'm twelve again," because they don't give a shit about video games as an art form.

>>4319174
>hurr who cares I just want to play Crash Team Racing and imagine I'm twelve again
there's literally nothing wrong with this mindset. most people play games because they think it's fun.

>video games as an art form
see pic

>>4319174
>give a shit about video games as an art form
>video games
>art form
Are you one of those types that likes his games being "intellectual"? You do realize they're just toys, don't you?

Hey OP, you got a source on those quotes?

I thought everybody on /vr/ used a flash cart? Why do they care about this?

>>4319181
>>4319183

Why is it that seeing video games as an art form is now considered nu-male dork bullshit? I think it's because of Gamergate. People started thinking that the cultural Marxist boogeyman wanted to take the tits and gore out of their games by pushing the "games as art" agenda, so they turned around and said "NOOO VIDEO GAMES ARE JUST FOR FUN."

Several years ago when Roger Ebert said games aren't art, I remember the entirety of /v/ went up in arms about it. It's hilarious how people now have the exact opposite opinion, simply because they feel like some "invader" is taking away their hobby.

>>4316736
Then don't play the roms on an emulator.

>>4319190
>an entire imageboard is one person
>implying people can't decide for themselves
but sure, keep thinking it's some kind of conspiracy if that makes you sleep better at night.

>>4319190
the development of video games is driven to 99% by market forces. is making money an art?

I really love playing video games for fun, but it bothers me when people equate consumerism with art.

>>4319195

I always see this argument brought out whenever there are no arguments to make. It's possible to say "the general opinion of a group noticeably changed over time" without saying "the entire group is one person", did you know?

>>4319196

Do you realize that this is also true for the music and film industries, and art in general, throughout history?

>>4319190
Honestly, I have never considered anything that I play with a form of art. Well,maybe my cock, but anyway....

Look at it like this: if videogames can be art, then so can card games, trading card games, board games, pencil and paper role playing games, tablet games, freaking LARPing, sports, sports entertainment and any other form of game can be too. And that's just wrong. Like it or not.

Videogames are played. They have conditions for victory and conditions for loss. Games that focus too much on the plot are casual as shit but are still games and still not art in and of themselves.

Take something like hellblade; it has artistry in it and artistic touches and all that. But its a painfully generic hack n slash game under all that polish. How exactly is tat art? Its a movie with medeocre gameplay attached to it.
Then there's things like journey. That I suppose could be art because there's no gameplay, and its exactly the same every fucking time you sit through it. The whole experience can be appreciated by watching someone else play it. So its a literal movie at that point and only technically a game. That could be art, I suppose.

And believe it or not, I have felt this way since the 90s,when the whole games as art thing first reared its mildly retarded head.

Sorry anon, but toys and collectibles are NOT a form of art and vaguely interactive movies are not videogames.

>>4319190
I think it's kinda funny how, two posts in, you managed to immediately make the topic about how much you hate those gosh-darned GambleGobbers. GamerGate was like 3 years ago, dude.

>>4319207

Hellblade is a self-serious piece of shit. The error most game publications make is assuming that "art" in games is basically a subpar, lightly interactive movie. However, video games are uniquely capable of creating interactable virtual worlds with experiences that are different for each player, and the way in which players interact with these worlds is what makes them art. Not the story or cinematics.

>>4319207
uh art is in the eye of the beholder?

>>4319174
Hopefully things like Patreon eventually means we'll get more emulation accuracy.

>>4317089
you can order the stuff online through ebay even. right now, some games are much cheaper even with shipping.

the japs have this thing where they never got nostalgia over retro games, but they also have low storage space. the living space in an average japanese household is smaller than the west. you just turn the shit in and maybe buy it back later. however, every 25-40 year old in the west can buy all that shit and store it in their mc mansion or in the attic for years no problem. hoarders have been a problem for a few years now and they've just moved to a cheaper market. for people saying you can't read the games, your average snes side scroller doesn't need much translation to figure out how to play.

having said that, it is a shame we're destroying their smaller retro gaming sub culture to bolster ours. flash carts

>>4316550
>Japan and America are the only two countries on Earth
retard

why would japanese people want to rent these old games when the could pirate them for free or even legitimately buy digital copies for close to nothing?

What super Potato needs to do is completely ban whites from buying games there.

>>4319174
what does emulation accuracy and people reselling their games when they're finished with them have to do with rom preservation?

>>4316371
>>4316365
http://archive.is/CtxME

>>4316371
Oh fuck off crying about Kotaku

>>4319698
What good is a rom dump if you need software hacks that are constantly breaking? It's like a juggling act if you can remember the days of nesticle and the rest.

The japs can just download the roms and emulate

>>4316312

ive been to super potato 5 times and everything is here with me in the U.S. now. I have no regurts.

>>4319692
I dont think you understand how important honor is to japanese society. They wouldn't be caught dead playing games they stole from online.

>>4319207
You've done a good job of demonstrating that "art" is fundamentally a garbage term

>>4320368
it's not that it's a garbage term, it's that people pretend its definition is somehow illusive and mysterious when it isn't. art/artistry means skill. artworks/cultural artifacts are products of artistry. video games are cultural artifacts.

>>4316330
Can't wait until Kim/china/Putin Nuke your lard hometown
Whole world will be partying

>>4316342
this

>>4320115
>honor
Yeah let's forget about the fact that a lot of older men -and some women as well- simply shut themselves in while binging anime and video games and at the same time disrespecting not only themselves but also the families and eventually partners or colleagues by simply avoiding or ignoring them. Yeah. Truly honorable, right?

I bet you think life in Japan is exactly like those cute girls doing cute things shows ...

>>4316393
cool read anon, thanks!

>>431631
Is this a troll, I highly doubt all the best games are being taken from Japan from gaijins. I've seen plenty of great games in Japanese game stores. I fucking live in this country

>>4320619
well yeah. it's their cultural output.

>>4320619
>Yeah let's forget about the fact that a lot of older men -and some women as well- simply shut themselves in while binging anime and video games and at the same time disrespecting not only themselves but also the families and eventually partners or colleagues by simply avoiding or ignoring them. Yeah. Truly honorable, right?
a lot of those people are more financially independent than you are because they honor social contract even as they contemplate suicide

>>4316312
You do know that for a period of time it was illegal to sell used games in japan, right? In the 90s businesses like TURBO DIRECT went out of business because they were Japan based and tho they were exporting used games, they were still forced to comply with Japan's laws.

Cry me a fucking river, bitch. And fuck every dickhead hawking used games at over-inflated prices, along with the retards supporting these pieces of shit.

>>4316824
>Are Flash Carts common in Japan?
They were common enough for the DS, that Nintendo went through all kinds of trouble to stomp out the R4DS. So common in fact, that they were even sold inside vending machines. Yes, the same ones you could at one time buy used panties in.

But retro flash carts are a more niche market and elevens are too glued to their shitty mobile internet to take note of such things like the Everdrive flash carts. So I really doubt there's anywhere nearly as much exposure for them over there.

>>4321164

No one cares about ED in Japan. It's an overpriced piece of shit. Japanese retro game stores don't charge nearly as much for used games as Western resellers do, so Japanese gamers don't have to choose between one raw deal or another.

>>4316312
WHY ARE RETRO GAMES SO EXPENSIVE DONT TELL ME MARIO 64 IS WORTH $100?!?!

>>4321101
I'm sorry, I can't follow your argument.
What has my financial situation to do with this and what makes you think they're "more financially independent"? And how do you get the idea that hikki's honor social contact, er I mean contract? Are you a weeb that has his japanese stick so much in his ass he can only think of superiority when the japanese is being named?

>>4316312
i love it dumb white piggu buying up stuff at inflated prices

>>4316312
I remember japs in the 18th century would be but mad at white foreigners cause silver to gold exchange wasen't same as in the west.
Slowly depleting their gold supplies to critical a level.
Foreigner actually got richer by exchanging their silver in japan.

White piggu is at it again.

>>4321252
>It's an overpriced piece of shit.
Congrats. You just described 99.9% of every 'rare' game.

>>4321630
japs get butt hurt over everything - google 'amazon kindle black ships' to see just how autistic those dinosaurs are

>>4319174
>video games as an art form

>>4316312
They accepted the money so how is it the consumers fault? This also doesn't place any blame on the international eBay sellers who are the ones selling to foreign countries. The tourists are hardly the problem and are spending more money elsewhere which is propping up the economy in other sectors as well.

>>4319174
>Reddit spacing

>>4321691
it's called "block paragraphs", anon.

the standard way of doing paragraph breaks is by indenting the first line in the new paragraph. however, this is tricky on image boards, since you can't see the line breaks while you're writing. because of this, it's more handy to to use the block paragraphs, which essentially means pressing enter twice.

block paragraphs are fairly modern, but they still predate reddit by at least a decade. you can't really associate it with a certain website.

>>4321720
>Reddit reply

>>4321735
>meme meme

>>4316312
Source pls

>>4321740
He's right though
>>4319174
>I want something done but I don't want to do it myself
If it's that important to you, you would start but you haven't ever ripped a game and I bet you don't even seed games you've downloaded but please keep bitching and waiting for someone to do the work for you. For the record I don't care what games get lost to time as I already have rom dumps of anything worth playing and translators are doing pretty big things right now as well so the few games I still have an interest in will probably be playable in English by the end of next year.

>>4321691

That's real 4chan spacing, anon. Just because you don't know how spacing has always worked on 4chan doesn't mean that's how it is.

>>4321757

No, he's wrong.

>>4321773
>>4321757
>he

>>4321773
Expected reply from a redditot

>>4321778
Feminine penis or gtfo

>>4321779

I've never browsed reddit once in my life.

How, might I ask, do you know how reddit spacing is in the first place?

Cause you don't know what 4chan spacing is.

Where you from?

>>4321767
anyone who gives a shit about spacing is completely, undeniably, unforgivably & literally r*ddit

>>4321784

Says the one who brought it up.

>>4321691
>reddit spacing

THIS IS REDDIT SPACING YOU FUCK


derp le derp te derper derp


tldr; derp

>>4321782
I'll be honest with you, I've never been to reddit either but your initial post is whining dribble that I don't want associated with MY 4chan :)

>>4321813

I didn't make that post.

You sound like a pussy.

I'm getting flashbacks from when idiots literally tried to claim 4chan isn't a forum.

>>4321818
It's an image board

>>4321827
still a kind of anonymous forum

>>4321827
It's an Amish quilting board actually

>>4321831
And you're still a newfriend that's easily triggered

>>4321832
It's a gay porn site for manchildren with special needs.

>>4321835
im so angry right now >:^(

>>4321838
It's not gay if the penis is feminine

>>4321842
but only if balls touch
EPIC DANK MEME GUYS AM I FITTING IN YET

>>4321827

All imageboards are forums.

>>4321848
No.

>>4321841
He's so angry right now >8^[]

>>4321863

Yes :)

>>4321865
pls no bully :'^(

>>4321545
What I'm saying is that the Japs, even when they're alone locked in their rooms and afraid of eye contact, are still, in some ways, a part of a real community that shows some measure of solidarity.

You hate them because you aren't a part of anybody's community, nobody wants you, even on 4chan you only ever get negative responses to everything you do. You life is awash with badness, that's why you can't even open your mouth and form a sentence that doesn't have a stupid edge on it.

i think japanese hikkis are extremely rare occurrences and over reported by the media probably in an attempt to shame men into "manning up" settling for a used goods washed up whore and provide for her
source:my ass

>>4321907
Are there a lot of uses up whores in Japan though? I thought they were more likely to be conservative with there bodies.

>>4321915
*their

>>4321915
>conservative
LOL half the men in Japan are permavirgins and half the hoes have worked in the yakuza owned adult industry or sold their bodies to dirty old men in highschool. Conservative, right.

>>4321895
Wrong, I love that faggot and I hope through the power of friendship we can shitpost you to the deepest depths of /r9k/

>>4319703
except he's right

>>4321925
I'm an old guy with money, brb moving to japan

>>4321926
>literally admitting to being an actual faggot as an argument

>>4316312
The weak should fear the strong.

>>4321938
>Sad you don't have anyone
Well no one is arguing with you mister lonely pants

>>4316719
I agree but for the various games that don't play on a flashcart.

That said, I don't really hold onto games much anymore, easier to sell them off when finished.

>>4316831
yeah, japanese PC game preservation is about as hopeless as getting Americans to commit to climate change.

>>4316312
So, I am supposed to pay 4000 Yen for a game and when I'm done with it, sell it back to the store where they give about 500 Yen for it (if I'm lucky)? That doesn't make any sense. Akihabara's retro gaming stores like Super Potato bank on stupid foreigners paying ten times as much as they would on Amazon Marketplace or Yahoo Auctions. And people don't resell it to them, because they pay you next to nothing. For example, I remember seeing posters of games the stores were desperately looking for. They would offer 1000 Yen for a copy of Battletoads, a game that's really rare in Japan and will cost you about 8000 Yen.

>>4321972
They should ask this guy for a copy

>>4316312
Man it feels good to be a mostly PS1 and PS2 guy.

>tall stack of CD-Rs
>tall stack of DVD-Rs
>get to play on original hardware and not deal with emulator shit
>roms are free
>PS2s are dirt cheap, have 4 of them so if one goes wrong just pull out the next one
>don't have to deal with eBay scumbags

based PlayStation

>>4321997
>want to play Nintendo games
>have to have an NES, SNES, N64, GCN all hooked up
>want to play Sega
>have to have a Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast all hooked up
>want to play Sony
>just need a PS2 and you're good to go

I'm in favor of this as long as those greasy gaijin are planning on dumping the ROMs.

As usual, resellers can eat shit.

>>4319174
One thing for sure, Japanese corporations are Japanese tier of Dickish and Stubborn to backwards traditions and policies, they are Stubbornese

>>4316323
aren't there laws against rentals in Japan?

>>4316892
Their care for presentation is truly a lost art. Modern games come in flimsy cases with a health warning insert and a QR code for instructions.

>>4321997
It's not so bad being into all of them, for the most part. I just wish I got the games I wanted before it was so picked over, is all.

Also, emulators are so fucking good these days. I started really doing this on emulators, back when ZSNES and nesticle were the go-to emulators. Things are so much better these days in just about every aspect *except* for the actual stuff manufactured back then.

>>4316312
>Japanese gamers would buy, play for a while, and then resell back to the same store (or other stores in Akibahara) when they're done with it.

Not my fault the Japs are idiots who crave to be taken advantage of. When I buy something I buy it for keeps, not as a glorified rental.

>>4321681
Is that a no-daichi?

There are Japanese sellers on eBay who sell huge stocks of used retro games for rock bottom prices. Am I to understand they sell these games to international sellers under the impression that the games will be circulated back into the Japanese market somehow?

I do import a lot of games from Japan since it's much more affordable that way. But these games go into my personal library to be played for years to come. I don't stick them on a shelf or try to resell them to somebody else at 1000% markup.

>>4316752
>The simple truth is that the Japanese retro game economy was not meant to sustain hundreds of thousands of foreigners swooping in, buying games in droves, and taking them out of the country.
Yeah, and all those fucking PAL fags buying up all the NTSC copies are what ruined the US market. If you want to protect something, you do so. You don't sell your shit to the highest bidder and then complain later that it sold. That's not the buyer's fault.

wtf did I just read and why.

and also how is this thread still here. please end it.

>>4316553
Yeah, then the 80s came and they did some fucking of their own, mainly wrecking U.S. auto, Steel and electronics and turning your kids into Weebs. GG, faggot.

>>4316553
>we

>>4316691
>all collections are stupid

>>4322006
>want to play Nintendo games
>don't have to have an NES, SNES, N64, GCN or even GB, GBC, GBA, DS all hooked up
>just need a Wii U and you're good to go

>>4322654
People getting offended when they are told that they jumped very late into the retro collecting bandwagon and also that japanese people think they are hoarder jew fucks.

>>4322675
The bare minimum to play EVERY game would require a NES, SNES, N64, GCN, DS
You can play GB games on the SNES and GBC and GBA games on the GCN so that's still 4 consoles you'd need, none of them are playable on the Wii U this is the worst shitpost I ever saw

good lord when did people on this board get so mean? beginning of this thread is embarrassing.

>>4323615

/vr/ gets closer to /v/ with every passing day.

>>4316312
This honestly sounds like a shitty business model. If your source of supply is the exact same as your demand I'm surprised they stayed in business as long as they did.

>>4316312
Capitalism wins again.

>>4323638

It's not really a business model, it's just the reality of it. Retro games are a finite resource, at least until newer games become "retro". You can't produce new cartridges of SMB3 or Zelda 2 out of thin air, nor can you order them from anywhere.

No business model is indefinitely sustainable. Times have changed the the frequency of online shopping, Japan hasn't been able to adapt to its changing market (and I don't mean that as just the retro game market, it's their whole economy).

>>4323683
>what is aliexpress
>but those dont count

>>4323683
Well reproduction carts are a thing but they're not cost-effective

>>4323696
Lotteries to even be able to buy stuff is pretty damn retarded I must say.

>>4323708
>>4323717

The kind of people who pay for retro games aren't going to pay for repro carts or anything that isn't authentic. Casuals looking for an afternoon of nostalgia might, but believe it or not, those people don't hold up the retro game market.

>>4323787
>The kind of people who pay for retro games aren't going to pay for repro carts
Bullshit. I would gladly pay for reproductions if they were physically identical to the original box/manual/cart. Most collectors just want the physical product, including the packaging.

>>4323615
It's really only the first post that's truly and sadly embarrassing.

>>4323792
I'm totally fine with repro carts. If I can get the original game for a decent price, fine, but I won't pay the retarded collector prices most sellers are trying to pull off right now.
When I can pay 10$ instead of 1000$ and the product is basically the same, the choice is simple.
I want to play the damn games, not store them in a bank vault.

retro gaming is cancer

>>4324647
Did you get lost on the way to v something?

>>4322127
no rental stores actually still exist over there. when I was there I saw tons of DVD rental shops.

>>4319115
Well, collectors don't even think that you own your own property. Anything you have is the property of whoever's going to buy it from you. That's why they have shit fits over custom consoles and people wanting to replace the labels on their favorite games.

>>4316312
White people's lives are so hollow and empty that they constantly fixate on collecting, procuring, and hoarding useless shit in a vain attempt to fill the void

>>4316312
Because the world is not yet ready for a post-capitalist society.


In mean time, capitalism is gonna capitalism.

>>4316736
>Emulation sucks. Input lag, improper scaling, emulation inaccuracies,
I'm sorry you can't use a computer.

Don't blame me, I've been emulating for the last 15 years.

>>4323615
>waaaaaah meanies
First time on an imageboard faggot?

>>4325557
Only movies/TV/anime though. Games aren't allowed to be rented there

>>4323615
about 6-12 months after it started.

>>4325583
Wypippo have to do something with the money we get at our awesome jobs.

>>4325780
Yeah because fuck things like growing up, having kids, putting your kids before your own selfish and childish hobbies, sense of community, and patriotism; at least you have a worthless collection of plastic you can occasionally look at.

>>4325819
Shut up psychopath.

>tfw buying cheap japanese games on ebay

Some of these sellers sell good games for like $3-4 shipped to the US.

>>4316784
>muh museum

that's what all of the massive game collectors say because it gives them a little cover from the label of obsessed hoarder.

>>4325819
>When you can't make white kids because there are no more white people to have kids with
fug it man.

>>4325819
Having kids costs a lot more than a game collection.
Besides, I don't know if you'd want this kind of people to have an offspring.
Maybe they're better off with their mounds of plastic.

>check amazon.jp for a copy of idea no hi
>even though it's an obscure game with almost no fanbase, often referred to as kusoge, and hardly desirable to anyone except weirdos like me who like it, it's a 6400 yen game
i don't think it's necessarily you guys' fault but i'm still gonna blame you

>>4326514
Many of the most "rare" and expensive games are kusoge, really.
Only collectors can willingly waste money on that kind of garbage.

>>4325819
You ok bud?

Japanese have been buying and hoarding vintage Americana since the 60s. So much so most of the really rare stuff is over there now. This is just a very small taste of what they have been doing to our cultural heritage for decades.

>>4326724
It's only ok when Japs do it, don't you know?

>>4316337
Getting there, taking N2 in December.

>>4325593
oh would you fucking marxists fuck off and go find a new hobby video games are inherently capitalist . This isnt fucking leftbook I shouldnt have to put up with post modern bullshit in here. Late stage capitalism, post capitalism it's all fucking advanced autism.

>>4327073
Cool, but be sure to not become an N2-kun.

>>4328754
Aye, I hope to pass the N1 the following year.

>>4316312
It was an inevitability due to these games not being released in the west.

>>4328754
N2 is all you need to enjoy 95% of vidya

>>4330778
>t. N2-kun

Where is japanon where I need him the most?
Those ebay stores never have what I want or in some insane prices.

>>4322668

>>4330814
Prove me wrong

>>4332891
You're most likely right. Doesn't mean you're not an ambitionless N2-kun if you stop at N2.