/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4289003
Maaaaaaaybeeeeee because.. it's not that good and not the real RE3?

>>4289003

be patient anon. it will come. nemesis is too popular among the fanbase for them to pass up remake shekels. and its already been re-released several times

>>4289003
>No re-releases, no hd remake, no nothing.
No canon.

>not the real RE3
What? I don't know that story.

Code Veronica was supposed to be the real part 3, pretty sure anyway. As for 3, it was unnecessary....but I think they used that to fund something else.

>>4289003
It had a re release on gamecube

>>4289006
it's better this way because Nemesis is much better than CV anyway

>>4289740

And PS3.

RE3 isn't really as good as the games surrounding it. It's not terrible but outside of Nemesis himself not very memorable either and I really dislike the enemy layout in the game

>>4289727
>What? I don't know that story.
RE:CV was going to be RE3 and RE:Nemesis a gaiden story. Sony had the numbered games by contract so they swapped the number.

>>4289003
Why does the numbering matter with Nemesis is a far better game than Code Veronica anyway?

Why does the numbering matter when Nemesis is a far better game than Code Veronica anyway?

>>4289793
They're both sub-standard harping on a formula from 1995, RE3 is much worse for it's lack of any reason to exist as nothing happens in it that has any effect on the series. I mean Jill couldn't been sat at home the whole time and it would still have the same outcome as what happened in the game.

>>4289735
>Code Veronica was supposed to be the real part 3

Wrong. The first time CV was ever even mentionned it was already called Biohazard: Code Veronica.

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LET ME GET A WHIPPEDY FLIPPETY FLAP ON DAT JACK SON

I DONT GIVE A HOOT

RIP 3PAC
BEATEN DEM CHEEKS IN HEAVEN

RE2 > RE1 > RECV > RE0 > RE3

>>4289991

RE3 was originally a spin-off game. It hardly seems like a sequel compared to CV. Same game engine, takes place at the same time as the second game, doesn't advance the plot in any way.

>>4290035
>0 above anything

>>4289740
And Windows and Dreamcast, pretty much the same situation as 2 until the vaporware remake was announced.

REMINDER:
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>>4290095
>doesn't advance the plot in any way.

Im sorry I can't hear you over the sound of the Raccoon city being turned into a nuclear wasteland. That one act alone caps off the series far better than anything that happens in later games.

>>4290251

RE2 ended with raccoon city exploding from the underground

>>4290267
Stop feeding the troll

>>4290280

>>4290267
It was just Birkin's lab.

>>4289003
What about Nemesis being in UMVC3?

The biggest overall problem with RE3 (and I think many others and why it's mostly rated 2 > 1 > 3) is that you're given a "whole city" to explore - but not really

It's a bunch of corridors and tight hallways in a way that didn't feel realistic. If RE3 took place in Japan I'm sure it would be like that in a zombie outbreak, but Raccoon City feels more like a mansion or police station than a city

>>4290338

It was the whole umbrella facility, which was connected throughout Raccoon City. It would have decimated the city before the Nuke did anything, but the Nuke is at least easier to explain to the rest of the country.

>>4290347
>re3 would be better with boring non cluttered empty streets to cross like silent hill

re3 is the best, quit trying to make capcom not give it a remake

>>4289747
what you kidding? Nemesis is an unique monster, a fucking insane hunter, it has the best jill, the best Tyrant and one of the best finale ever seen.

The fucking nuclear bomb as a ultimate solution to clear the records over a city, is fucking A.

>>4289006
Not the real RE3?

Then why is the game called Resident Evil 3: Nemesis?

Yeah I know about the production bulshit and CV being the true heir, but let us be honest for a moment. RE2 is hold your hand easy, and RE: CV had too much back tracking and no atmosphere. RE1 and RE3 are the true patrician options.

>>4289851
Nothing happens? Except the whole centralised area of the Resident Evil universe until that point gets destroyed? You fucking cunt.

>all these absolute plebs ITT shitting on nemesis

it's the best game in the classic series, and if you had spent any time here at all you'd know it's /vr/'s favourite entry

so many pros to this game that go right over the head of the casual faggot RE player

>>4290867
Yeah and that really changed the series

...

>>4290095
>RE3 was originally a spin-off game

Says the guy who worked on the scenario.. while Mikami says it was supposed to be an "add-on" called RE2.5.

But bringing alpha and betas ides and calling them "how it was supposed to be" isn't right. If we do that, then RE1 was supposed to be a FPS. Then it was supposed to involve cybords and have 2 player co-ops. Then, DMC was supposed to be RE4. Then, RE4 was supposed to be a survival horror involving smoke ghosts on a flying zepplin and a haunted castle. See where I'm going here?

The fact remains, the first time CV was ever EVEN mentionned was in TGS 1998 iirc, and it was already called Biohazard: Code Veronica. It was NEVER supposed to be RE3.

The problem is people are STILL getting confused because
>1) RE3 and CV were developped at the same time
I have no doubt that a magazine having exclusives images of CV would say "images of RE3!" on the cover. That's what they do, like they say "Duke Nukem 4" and "Silent Hill 5" even though neither ever existed.

>2) Even Capcom, before the announcement of CV and 3, was confused about what it was doing

Another fact is that CV could NEVER have been RE3, because CV was developped for Dreamcast from the start, and Capcom still had a contract with Sony to have a 3rd "main, numbered RE title" on Playstation.
If anything, CV is the spin-off because of this.
People who like CV over RE3 live in their own little fantasy in which they believe that claiming "CV was supposed to be RE3" somehow makes it less of a shit game.

>>4289851
Who the fuck cares about the cannon of Resident Evil?
Its a fun game that sadly just suffers from lackluster environments that still has the best game mechanics out of the 3.
CV is worse if you're going to throw a shitfit about story, especially since it kicked off the stupidity that lead to the garbage plots of 5 and 6.

>>4291321
>Its a fun game that sadly just suffers from lackluster environments

literally kill yourself right now and never come back as a spooky ghost.

Resident Evil 3 has some of the best most atmospheric environments ever in a game

>>4291374
>Resident Evil 3 has some of the best most atmospheric environments ever in a game

This. I still remember the first time I played. I ran from the Nemesis thinking I was safe in the next room and BAM the cunt charges in after me. Scared the shit out of me

>>4291385
I want to play a hack where he just chases you the entire fucking game and his distance to you is realistic on how fast you are compared to him


WHAT A THRILL

I liked it, I have it, just saying it was unnecessary. But it's Capcom so they pump out what works. Can't blame 'em. Got resident dino out of the affair anyway. Aw yea. Also, I was just going off memory bout the whole not real 3 thing. Happy to be reinformed.

>>4291374
>and never come back as a spooky ghost

>>4290865
>RE: CV had too much back tracking and no atmosphere.
>no atmosphere
What in the literal fuck are you talking about?

RE, RE2, RE3, and RECV all ooze atmosphere. If it's one thing Resident Evil excels at, it's fucking atmosphere.

>>4291546
>RE
>Atmosphere
Stop it with this meme.

>>4291809
Are you deaf, dumb, and blind?

>>4291861
They're the blandest and most sterile shit imaginable. There is nothing moody or atmospheric about them.

>>4290417

I mean, like I said, outside of Nemesis. Nemesis is fun to fight and has a really cool design that makes him one of the most memorable things in the series.

Gameplay-wise, though, the game is far too frontloaded around gunning down corridors full of 18 zombies with near-infinite ammo and the ability to dodge everything. Its still fun but I'd play 1 or 2 any day of the week before it

>>4291905
>There is nothing moody or atmospheric about them.
Ya know, you're not suppose to be obvious when trolling..

>>4291921
>Wow such atmosphere

>>4291927
Is it summer time again?

>>4291921
Not that anon but I completely agree, there's nothing atmospheric about the RE games other than a few instances I can recall, like some parts of RE4. When I think of atmospheric, I think of games like Demon's Souls, games which create a totally unique vibe through use of interesting lighting, environments, sounds and ambient audio-visual effects. The RE games don't have any of that. Just shitty, generic pre-rendered backgrounds that look like any old place with some fugly character models.

>>4291905
>>4291935
not sure if trolls or retards

>>4291947
Its obvious trolls. One of them compared the atmosphere to Demon's Souls and then said "generic pre-rendered backgrounds".

The pre-rendered background of PS1 RE games are fucking awesome and still look great to this day.

>>4291958
>still look great to this day
>still look great
>look great
The delusion.

>>4291975
So you picked a hallway that has shitty wallpaper. Got it.

>>4291979
Show me something that doesn't look terrible, then.

>>4291958
>One of them compared the atmosphere to Demon's Souls and then said "generic pre-rendered backgrounds".
Nice reading comprehension you fucking retard. I didn't "compare" it to Demon's Souls, I used it as an example of a game that had atmosphere. And yeah, generic pre-rendered backgrounds, that's exactly what RE has. They are nothing special at all.
>still look great to this day.
They look like hot ass and you know it.

>>4291982
>didn't "compare" it to Demon's Souls, I used it as an example of a game that had atmosphere.
That's like comparing apples to oranges. Of course a game released that many year before Demon's Souls isn't going to have the same atmospheric design. Are you 12?

>>4291947
>>4291958
>Someone has a differing opinion
>muh trolls

>>4291993
>That's like comparing apples to oranges.
Lol right after I literally stated that I wasn't comparing anything. How many paint chips do you eat on a daily basis?
>Are you 12?
Are you retarded? You're conflating atmosphere with visual fidelity. This concept couldn't be any simpler for you to understand. I'm simply saying that a game like Demon's Souls has atmosphere because it creates a unique aesthetic. Plenty of games released during the same time, or even before RE series had atmosphere too. But RE doesn't. Don't be so fucking dense.

>>4291981

All of RE3 looks pretty great

>>4291975
>Underage detected
You obviously never played it on a CRT TV.

>>4289003
My main issue is that it only has one main scenario and it's only slightly longer than a single scenario from RE2.

>>4292275
You're looking at it the wrong way if you ask me.

Both RE2 and RE3 have about the same amount of content. The only difference is the way they're laid out.

RE2 has 4 static scenarios, but 90% of all 4 is the same.

RE3 has only one, but with tons of different things that can occur, either depending on your actions, or semi-randomized.

The way RE3 does it is much better because you can replay it many times and it'll be different.
RE2's scenario system is total BS, making the player replay the same shit 4 times only to get a few mins of extra/different things each time.. and all 4 scenarios are completely static, no matter what you do. There is a reason why that kind of system was never heard of after...

>>4292305
Yeah, now that you mention it, I forgot the number of things that could differ considering the Nemesis branches and IIRC weren't some of the puzzle solutions randomized?

>>4291809
>only played RE4, 5 and 6.

>>4292351
>implying RE4 didn't have the most atmosphere out of the whole series

>>4290347
Raccoon City is based of tokyo

Is Dreamcast the best platform to play Resi 2 and 3 on?
>Better visuals than the PS1 versions
>The VMU functionality.
Seriously playing through RE2 the first time on Dreamcast was great because I never had to pause the game to check my ammo count or where my health was at, as it was all conveniently displayed on the VMU.

>>4292454
Only if on actual tube TV and hardware.

Actual ps1 re2/3 on a tube tv > emulated dreamcast.

>>4292471
I beg to differ.
The DC outputs VGA, which looks great on a monitor or modern TV that has an VGA input.

>>4292357
You expecting to actually catch people with such shit bait?

>>4292485
That's even worse really. Because you want that CRT smoothing for the fairly low-res backgrounds.

>>4292454
Of course Dreamcast had the superior versions of Resident Evil 2 and 3. The VGA output is amazing.

best jill

>>4292515
doesnt the dreamcast version also let you pick between different dresses?

>>4292557
They all do, you just have to beat the game once to unlock the room.

>>4292557
Yes and they're all unlocked from the start in the DC port. When you start a new game there's a menu where you pick an outfit to wear the entire game. The DC port also has 2 extra outfits not present in the PS1 and GameCube ports, but they're nothing special imo.

>>4292678
Oops, I didn't mean to imply PS1 was a port since it's the original version.

>>4290867
That happened and the consequences were...

>>4290347
>what are hardware limitations?
re3 was fun and atmospheric as fuck. i always wanted to explore outside the police station in re2 and re3 delivered on that in spades

>>4291546
veronica was garbage. played the shit out of re2 and re3. totally disappointed by cv when it came out. story was fanfic tier garbage, the 3d environments looked like shit compared to the pre rendered ones of the previous gen. nothing about the game was fun or memorable.

>>4291975
>using a shitty emulator to "prove" points

just stop my man

>>4292260
>too sterile -some faggot idiot kid 2017

>>4291906
>Gameplay-wise, though, the game is far too frontloaded around gunning down corridors full of 18 zombies with near-infinite ammo and the ability to dodge everything.
Yeah, that's the idea of mercenaries franchise bro.

> Its still fun but I'd play 1 or 2 any day of the week before it
Really?? I found more enjoyable to play with jill in racoon city rather than mansion, specially for the stupid lines in one (I mean the original), don't tell you can remember and feel shame for the hilarious line "master of unlocking". Now if you talk about remake, well that's other story.

I think 3 had a better story with the plot of nicholai, maybe the story was short, but you can't compared with RE2, it was 2-CD game, in that time it means a huge game cmon.

>>4292727
And yet it was still better than 0 or 3.

what emulator for dreamcast and re3?

>RE2/3 aren't atmosph-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7qVxKj40Ps

>>4292557
Yes.

>>4293045
I'm afraid I can't help you there, since I don't play Dreamcast games on an emulator. I use my Dreamcast and the actual game discs. Though I am thinking about buying the component that has a micro-SD slot that can be easily installed into my Dreamcast.

>>4293227
Does that sd card take away the awful screeching sounds of the dreamcast? also is there a fan that isnt so loud?

Sitting near the dreamcast in play was annoying if I remember correctly

>>4293252
If you have a VMU plugged into the controller, then no. It does that every time. I think someone is selling a custom fan on ebay, but the noise doesn't bother me as much, my PS3 is much louder with it's own fan. I usually have my speakers on to drown out the fan noise.

>>4293252
If you were referring to the disc reader making screeching sounds, well that's taken away with the SD Card reader installed.

>>4293290
>>4293308
Nice, seems like a great reason to upgrade it then.

>>4289991
>Wrong. The first time CV was ever even mentionned it was already called Biohazard: Code Veronica.
So? What has to do that with the internal namings of Capcom?

>>4292492
Not really, no. I expect most people to have shit opinions and disagree with me, because most people are very stupid. Like you.

>>4293252
oh its not thaaaat bad. my og xbox 360 elite was louder than the dreamcast. and i had the cooler fan add on from madcatz and that was a jet engine in my room at full blast

>>4293680
Certain models of ps2 fat have an awful loud fan too, drives me nuts

>>4293382
Definitely.

>>4292454
>Is Dreamcast the best platform to play Resi 2 and 3 on?
>>Better visuals than the PS1 versions
RE3 on DC???

LOLNO, the backgrounds are a mess on DC

>>4289003
let see how REmake 2 comes out first,

that said I would love if Nemesis got the REmake treatment, and they brought back Julia Voth for promotional stuff for the game.