/vr/ - Retro Games

The reason why TG-16 was unsuccessful is very similar to the reason the Master System was unsuccessful in the US. Bad distribution.

Guess where I bought my TG-16 games. Kay Bee? Circus World? Toys R Us? Camelot Music? K Mart? No. Elder fucking Beerman was the only place that sold TG-16 games at retail in my whole city.

>>4264013
Turbo Grafx CD flopped. It was easy to break or it wouldn't work at all and it was quite expensive back in the day.

>>4264024

I got one from JC Penny.

>>4264359
Through their catalog? That's how I got my Express. Or actually in the store?

>>4264362

Outlet store. Mum and Grandma used to go their every summer and depending on our grades we'd get games or whatever we wanted. Bro and I pooled our reward one year and got a TG.

>>4264013
Just because it flopped in our continent doesn't mean it was a failure

PC-Engine launched really late over here (like right in the middle of the war between NES and GEN) and just didn't have the games people were all excited to see. That's enough to make or break a console but it has cemented its reputation as an awesome shmup machine. It's also the first game console to use CD audio I think. So whatever

>>4264403
>but it has cemented its reputation as an awesome shmup machine.
shame shmups were only good in the arcades

>>4264416
quiet you

>>4264024
NEC blew their budget on manufacturing and had no money for marketing

launching 2 weeks after the genesis was also a death sentence

In Japan? I love my hucards, but they were fucking tiny and lacked storage. Why should a 16-bit game in 1992 only be 4 megs?

>>4264013
Was the Nintendo weebs that killed it. Has some really cool games.
Order of the Griffin sure beats the shit out of Warriors of the Eternal Sun

And like the Sega CD had way too many great games left in Japan.

>>4264403
>Just because it flopped in our continent doesn't mean it was a failure

It actually does mean that.

>>4264494
this

In Europe, it was merely an import item with a failed launch in Britain

In japan, pce beat the megadrive but it also had a fuckload of hardware revisions. Once the snes came out, hucard sales dropped to rock bottom and the PCE-CD started to get shitty hentai games

Not a single game even sold close to 1 million copies.

>>4264507
>Not a single game even sold close to 1 million copies.

Only a few stand out games back then sold that many anyways. It used to be a few hundred thousand was considered a success

>>4264472
>Was the Nintendo weebs that killed it.
>using weebs as an insult while defending the PC Engine
kek. But if anything SEGA was the one that ate it's lunch in the west, not that NEC's lack of a good advertisement budget did them any favors.

>>4264013
PCE's chip was good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIKH_mm3lQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrtiV0znbyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cXw2qpWMaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnvCIV9E8Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPL92XKmxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb8jZ33ygn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFjnaZIv9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_crIMkoI7rk

It's small.

>>4267150
WHY WHERE THERE SO MANY DAMN VERSIONS. Or are you telling me the Turbografix-16 was completely different from the PC-Engine?

>>4266739
It had quite some potential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jcdiSG1uVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nY7nH1UeMM&list=PLzFTGYa_evXgnxNqitkP86ZIJWjQOwZbD&index=22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cbsEA_vO4&index=21&list=PLzFTGYa_evXgnxNqitkP86ZIJWjQOwZbD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVKv-hywSgc&list=PLzFTGYa_evXi_6YdvCo9gHIeHxSNkeEBs&index=34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8t_Qa7Blc&list=PLzFTGYa_evXi_6YdvCo9gHIeHxSNkeEBs&index=33

>>4267165
NEC is a computer manufacturer, so it was natural I guess

A good amount of the models were utterly pointless though

>PC Engine LT (a laptop? that has to be plugged in)
>Duo-R and RX (functionally identical to Duo, but the R has better capacitors)
>Supergrafx (utter failure that came out too early)
>PC Engine Shuttle (no expansion port)
>Coregrafx II (not any different than I except maybe a slight sound revision)

Let's not forget the waste of the Arcade Card, a desperate attempt to prolong the lifespan of a dying console

>>4267358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d255tSDAGY

Best version.

Still exclusive as far as I know.

>>4267991
fucking working designs

>>4264472
>And like the Sega CD had way too many great games left in Japan.
I get the PCE-CD having a lot of Japan exclusive games but the Mega CD? They went as far as porting PCE-CD games to American Sega CD without releasing them in Japan for Mega CD.

>>4268026
http://www.sega-16.com/2005/01/left-in-japan-mega-drive-mega-cd-rpgs/

Be sad, be very sad.

>>4268040
WTF I HATE SEGA NOW, though this article is pretty out of date since they actually did translate Rent-A-Hero a year ago.

>>4264471
>Why should a 16-bit game in 1992 only be 4 megs?
Most of the worthwhile PCE games by that point were on CD-ROM.

>>4264024
Toys R Us was actually the only place around me that sold TG-16 games.

>>4268040
I can read Japanese so I have nothing to be sad about.
I actually played Shadowrun and Legend of Heroes from that list and will likely play more in the future.

>>4268059
Some are being translated, but not the ones I want like Arcus 1-3 and Death Bringer.

>>4268226
Being in translation means jack shit.
Some games have been in translation since the 90s and they're never going to come out.

>>4267824
>i don't know what i'm talking about
All those models had differences that were selling points. Some of them may not have been very successful but none were as big as fail as your post chock full of ignorance.

>>4268259
Please enlighten me, what made the Coregrafx 2 different from the 1?

What made the Duo RX stand out from the R?

Who thought the Shuttle was a good idea?

>>4268964
Not him but the Coregrafx II fixes a sound issue that would appear in Splatterhouse

>>4268964
Sound
Controller
Poorfags

>>4268014
Trust me, the Japanese game is not much better. WD added the lol-worthy difficulty that made the game unplayable, but Telenet is a lol-worthy developer that couldn't make a good game to save their life if Wolf Team wasn't the one developing it.* The base game is buggy, full of glitches, bad hit detection, shit level design, you name it.

*and even then they could fuck up in hilariously awful ways. See: Jinmu Densho

>>4269851
WD apoligist pls stopping fucking breaking games

>>4269883
no it's what I do
-wick welshman, president of WD

>>4264024
Didn't Nintendo have anticompetition agreements that locked NEC and Sega out of retailers?

>>4269929
I don't know about America, but the relationship between NEC and Nintendo of Japan was surprisingly cordial and friendly. Maybe they just hated Sega because it was originally an American company or something.

>press run button
>Bonk doesn't start running
Fucking scam.

>>4267989
Uh what? The PCE has absolutely shitty background scrolling. It's the worst version.

>>4267165
Pce was jap version of tg16.

>>4270658
>it's worse because of a little detail

>>4264024
The only store that sold Turbographx in my city was "Buy Right drugstore" and they had a demo set up with that robot with energy sword game.