/vr/ - Retro Games

No. He's the GOST.

>>4257518
But that's wrong.

I think we all can agree that nobody can agree with the statement I think we all can agree

>ghost in Gen 1
>has no ghost move that's SE

No one could stop Alakazam

>>4257518
You have to admit Crystal/Gen2 perfected the Gengar spritework. He just hasn't looked as good since. 1999 was 18 years ago.

Isn't Tauros super strong in gen 1?

Charizard, Nidoking, Arcanine, Ninetails, Gyarados, Gengar, Alakazam, Onix, Scyther, Exeggutor, Cloyster and Mewtwo are the Gen1 GOATs.

Gengar was my favorite since I was a child.

>>4257594
He actually looks menacing here

>>4257518
gengar is so comfy

>>4257518
He certainly can put the GAR in Gengar.

>>4257548
Outside of legendaries this is the sad truth of Gen 1 and why it will never be truly great.

>>4257518
I think we can actually agree Poison types are the GOAT

I had a japanese holographic gengar in middle school.

I was a cool guy

>>4257728
>that amazing cry SFX

>>4257648
it was shoddy as fuck and buff and debuff/curse moves where virtually useless and a waste of time and turns.

>>4257613
>Onix

Onix is a wimp even today.

>>4257548
>>has no ghost move that's SE
>what is LICK
Yeah okay kid.

>>4257728
>people who think perler art is worth posting
Wow, congrats on taking someone else's art and playing color-by-numbers with it. You're super fucking talented.

>>4257518
Step aside, peasant

>>4257969
Lick does hardly any damage.

>>4257530
I giggled, anon.

>>4257594
>>4257615
They made him bright purple in the later games. Gen 2 sprite work is top notch due in part to the color palette.

>>4257971
you sound incredibly jelly, anon

>>4257518
Gengar! Gengar! Gengar!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5K0I-KBOJ8

>>4257530
Greatest of small time?

>>4257518
I never used one until not retro because of shitty attack and type combination. Thank fuck that Polished Crystal makes Shadow Ball worth shit on Ghost.

>muh bugged weaknesses

>>4257518
Haunter was the better Gen1 ghost.

>>4258626
>literally named ghost
Of course that's his whole thing.

>>4258157
Agreed. Even in the old cartoons he was really darkly shaded

>>4257953
>near 100% accuracy Hypnosis on the fastest mon in the game
>useless

>>4258626
Damn straight

>>4257969
In Gen 1 Psychic was immune to ghost, possibly due to a glitch.

The point being, Lick was not SE.

>>4259309
It was actually neutral to ghost

>>4259309
>The point being, Lick was not SE.
Lick was Super Effective against other Ghost types.

You never specified that it had to be Super Effective against Psychic.

>>4259339
So, other Ghastly/Haunter/Gengars?
I loved Gen1 Pokemon as a kid but even I knew it was solid bullshit there were only three ghost Pokemon.

>>4258771
>>4258157
It seems that Gengar's original coloring was closer to its shiny color.

Sad to see how Gengar looks goofy nowadays.

>>4259485

>>4259339
>>4259331
Lick was the ONLY attacking Ghost move that did damage.

Nightshade doesn't count because it's shit.
>meanwhile in Gen 2

>>4259345
>Gen 2 comes around
>they only add one new Ghost type
>can't catch it until the final dungeon

>>4259485
>>4259495
Pic related is actually the first colored Gengar art.

>>4257728

poison types are surprisingly hard to kill and are annoying as fuck

>>4259345
>I knew it was solid bullshit there were only three ghost Pokemon.
it's not bullshit, it was a special exclusive type back then, just like dragon

the bullshit part is that they fucked up the balance by making them part poison and having no damaging ghost moves

>>4259668
Really? I always found poison to be one of the weakest, most useless types. It's super effective against useless stuff like grass, and the very common and powerful psychic and ground moves are super effective against it. I saw poison types and bug types together as sort of the weak, "joke" types put into the game for low-tier NPCs to use. Getting poisoned is definitely annoying though.

Nidoking is great though. His ground type more than makes up for also being poison type and he looks cool as fuck.

>>4257548
Alakazam is a meme. Chansey, Tauros and Exeggutor were way more potent.

>>4259669
There's another thing I miss from the older games, special types that consisted of only a few pokemon that were somewhat hard to get so it felt like an accomplishment when you fully evolved one.

>>4257518
Gogoat is the goat kiddo

>>4257518
>nobody posted best mon to travel with

really guys

>>4259676

they're all bulky as fuck and have a metric ton of annoying moves

Venasaur
Crobat
kuM
Gengar
Tentacruel
Nidoking
Weezing with levitate

see just from gen 1 you can make a poison team and wreck house. Dual typing also helps. It's perhaps the only other type team that I would consider as viable with the exception of a water team. Water team is boring though

obviously earthquake (for some) and psychic (only from Alakazam) are going to be a problem, but otherwise they they can wreck house due to their bulk. Being resistant to poison helps a bunch as well.

>>4259951
All of those except Muk and Weezing (levitate is NOT RETRO REEEEE) have some other more useful type alongside poison. Muk is annoying to fight against I guess with its stalling moves, but it's really not useful for the player (another instance where I see poison type as more of an NPC thing). Weezing has annoying suicide moves that are similarly annoying for the player when NPCs use them, but useless to the player himself.

Poison typing is more of a weakness for the rest of those pokemon than anything else. It gives them all a psychic weakness they'd be much stronger without, and it's not just alakazam that can give them a lot of grief for that. I see what you are getting at with regard to it being a type with a surprising variety of members, but that's just because it is the most common after water. Ultimately its weakness to both Earthquake and Psychic (and almost every strong fully evolved pokemon can learn one or the other of those) makes it very risky to use, and it doesn't have good type advantage against many useful things. The only strong poison typed attack is Sludge Bomb, and although Toxic is cool lots of non-poison types can also learn it.

Out of that list the only ones I would use are Venusaur, Gengar, and Nidoking. Maybe Crobat because of ground type immunity, but neither poison nor flying are very useful offensive types.

Damn Gengar is looking pretty SMASHED and SLAMMED there.

>>4258780
because hypnosis is a buff/debuff move, right?
no, it's for status ailment. those are useful.

shove the stupid greentext memearrow logical fallacy and hyperrationalism up your greasy asshole. I'm so sick of that.

>>4259719
>Exeggutor
nice taste anon

>>4258074
not retro, sorry anon

>>4260523
>Pixel graphics
>Not retro
Oh boy, we got a retard here.

Five foot tall

Praying mantis

Scythes for arms

...

Your argument has never been more invalid

>>4258646
>using Nip names
There's your problem.

Post and rate teams.
Here's mine:

Squirtle chosen for his superior aesthetic over the generic dragon and dude weeds lmao. Later when he gets surf he slays ass.

Spearow: Immune to ground moves and early access to the tactically interesting mirror move.

Butterfree. Weak stats and typing but getting status effect moves early is neat. Teached him psychic and megadrain to keep him from sucking later on.

Jigglypuff. Good bulk, easy wins if his sing succeeds. I teach him strength and megapunch.
I know Clefairy has better stats but I didn't want to use faggot type pokemon.

Meowth. He is fast so crits often and always goes first unless underleveled, teach him bubblebeam so he can kill rocks and grounds.

Farfetched as an HM slave. STAB cut is not half bad. I like to teach him toxic and imagine him dumping rancid birdshit onto foes.

I always get a full team of six before the 3rd gym. Lately I've been thinking to replace one of the above with Drowsee instead. What are good moves to install on Drowsee? Which of the above party members should he replace?

What are all the different rewards you get as you get closer to capturing all 151? I got the itemfinder but it's useless because only a pitiful autist would go around pressing A on every single tile in the game.

>>4257613
My team was:

>Charizard
>Gyarados
>Scyther
>Nidoking
>Gengar
>Dragonite

Basically all the pokes that a 10 year old would find the most badasss

>>4258568
Ghost being a physical instead of special not only made no fucking sense, but really handicapped ghosts moves

>>4261053
>I know Clefairy has better stats but I didn't want to use faggot type pokemon.
clefairy was not fairy type on gen 1

jigglypuff is as "gay" or "girly" as clefairy

>>4261053

I like your way of playing the game, bro

>>4261053
This post makes me want to play Pokemon again.

>>4261053
Ah yes, the ol' Bubblebeam TM.

>>4260868
>Manlet
kek, nice try

>>4258626
>Haunter
>better

LOLNO. The Gastly line isn't supposed to be "BADASS SCARY GHOSTS WOOOOOO!" They're supposed to be IRL trolls who fuck with people for fun. A fat, stumpy gremlin fits that archetype much better than Haunter.

>>4261336

Gengar is the same height. Or were you too busy sucking ecto-dick to notice?

>>4261362
>They're supposed to be IRL trolls who fuck with people for fun
according to the anime

in the game they are evil spirits who haunt the pokemon tower and possess the shinto shaman ladies

>>4261362
>they're all just whacky trolls XD

Haunted falls in line right with the other two dude.

Select Ghastly Pokedex entries:
>Silver: Its thin body is made of gas. It can envelop an opponent of any size and cause suffocation.
>Crystal: It wraps its opponent in its gas-like body, slowly weakening its prey by poisoning it through the skin.
>FireRed: A being that exists as a thin gas. It can topple an Indian elephant by enveloping the prey in two seconds.

Select Gengar Pokedex entries:
>Stadium: Appears to attack people who get lost in the mountains. Said to be the culprit behind shadows that laugh in the moonlight.
>Silver: To steal the life of its target, it slips into the prey's shadow and silently waits for an opportunity.
>FireRed: It is said to emerge from darkness to steal the lives of those who become lost in mountains.
Sun: Should you feel yourself attacked by a sudden chill, it is evidence of an approaching Gengar. There is no escaping it. Give up.
Moon: It apparently wishes for a traveling companion. Since it was once human itself, it tries to create one by taking the lives of other humans.

>>4261375
I mean, they're definitely not benign, but their core character is still that they're jokesters.

Look at Pokken tournament, for example.

>>4261384
>Citing the pokedex

The pokedex says a lot of dumb shit.

>>4261386
I was refering to the original games, before gamefreak removed all the grit from pokemon except for the over the top edgy pokedex entries

>>4261394
Better than citing retarded anime shit.

>>4257609
Yes
>STAB hyper beams that don't take a turn to recharge on KO
>Crit rate over 20% thanks to high speed
>No fighting types around since they all feared getting blasted by Alakazam
>Body slam paralyzes any would be threats
>Blizzard and Earthquake options to work around Rhydon, Golem, and Gengar

>it's a doujin featuring Hypno

Pokemon then.
>finish cave or dungeon or gym
>challenged by rival without warning and no way to heal
Pokemon now
>rivals either heal your Pokemon or tell you to come back when you're all healed

>>4261820
Good taste, anon. What I'm wondering about is the explicit lack of Karen doujinshi, though. What gives?

>>4261842

Dude

Pokemon has never been hard

>>4261861
Pokemon now holds your hand through the entire game. You now get EXP share in the first 30 mins of the games.

>>4261842
>>4261869
I do not think those are bad changes.

>>4261053

>4 normal type pokemon

>>4261053
There is a far far more generic dragon, Anon.

>>4260868
>mfw in Gold it evolve to fucking wrecking machine in Scizor

>>4261869
While EXP share wasn't hard to get in R/B, I do think the EXP share right at the beginning is a welcome change. I do agree with you though, the modern games do way too much hand holding.

I also personally think the new games are far less engaging because you have to do so much god damn NPC interaction. Every half route or new town is a new cut scene or a listen-to-an-NPC-ramble-on-about-pokemon-world-history. I just want to catch some fucking pokemon and become the best like no one ever was. Is that too much to ask?

>>4257728
behind this post 100%

>>4261842
>no way to heal
Literally never been this way aside from one time in gen 1 with the league where you already knew this was the case.

Unless you acted like a retard and went off to the nugget bridge without healing.

Either way Blue is easy as piss and always has been, you're also not likely to be that damaged through the caves in the first place.

>>4257518
Agreed.

>mfw I've had a Gengar on my team for every Pokémon game first playthrough

>>4258562
greatest of specter time

>>4258626
I always liked Haunter better because of the floating hands. It was a let down to see him become a normal dude in evolution.
Same thing with Dragonite. Dragonair is so beautiful, why did it have to become a dragon with too few chromossomes?
I like that Scyther and Scizor have equal amount of stats, although it's claimed the second is better anyway. It was nice of Nintendo to try to respect the origins, unlike what they do now by giving evolved shitty looking forms to older families, ruining them forever.

>>4262186
>>4262317
Don't the Pokemon games now show you in-battle what move are weak and SE against the other Pokemon? That's ultimate hand holding.

Take it to /vp/ cucks

>>4264054
I think so yes.

Won't deny that at all.

>>4264060
>>4264054

>>4261053
I like Meowth never used him though

My Team

>Poliwhirl
Favourite Pokemon ever. Water/Fighting my two favourite types. Fuck Poliwrath
>Hitmonlee
Coolest looking pokemon imo. Did I mention fighting types are based
>Ninetales
Need a fire type, prefer ninetales to Flareon and Arcanine
>Scyther
He's good and looks good
>Weezing
Poison is underrated. Also like his design
>Lickitung
Good defense, I use it to lower enemy attacks/defenses etc

>>4264118
Poliwrath is the Water/Fighting

I think you mean fuck Politoed.

>>4261842

This never happened.

>>4264123
I just remembered Poliwhirl isn't actually fighting type but can learn fighting type moves. I did mean fuck poliwrath. I love poliwhirls design too much to evolve him

>>4264072
To be fair, they don't tell you this until after you've performed that move on that Pokemon.

If it's your first encounter with a given mon it won't tell you anything.

>>4257728
I've always liked them. And they've gotten a great, well needed boost in recent games because of the Fairy type that they're good against.

>>4264179
only after you've faced a pokemon once. after that it will tell you everything

My favorite 9-team in gen 1
No legendary allowed

>Raticate (sub)
>Golbat
>Dugtrio (sub)
>Alakazam
>Gengar
>Chansey (sub)
>Volteon
>Snorlax
>Dragonite

>>4258096
Because his Japanese name is literally Gost? (I know it's Ghost but that's only if you actively try to translate each pun instead of taking the name at face value).

Since a few people are posting teams.

What team did you use when you first played /vr/?

Mine was:
Arcanine
Blastoise
Dugtrio
Haunter
Raichu
Scyther

Swapped in Pidgeotto when I need a flyer.

>>4266537
Gengar's japanese name is gengar. Haunter is ghost

>>4266842
That's embarrassing, thanks anon.

>>4266834
Blastoise
Charizard
Venasaur
Raichu
Genger
Alakazam

Anyone has the pic of gengar from the first gen tcg? That one was badass

>>4259951
you don't know shit, even in terms of only the retro games that team is ass and in modern playing meta even more so. monoflying and monosteel are by far the most viable

>>4259676
Thankfully they gave Poison a buff in later gens. Being super effective to Fairy is a huge plus, thanks to Fairy being generally overpowered (immune to Dragon, super effective to Dragon, Dark, Fighting).

>>4267531
you mean this? it looks retarded because of the eyes

>>4267564
To be honest, I feel that poison should've beaten psychic, and that psychic should've beaten bug. Logic being "No amount of mind over matter will stop poison" and "Overcoming your fear of bugs".

>>4267541
>Criticise gen 1 team
>uses modern types as argument
Fucking retard

>>4267637
>"No amount of mind over matter will stop poison"
Psychic power in pokemon universe includes e.g. telekinesis, so mind powers can literally change matter. C.f. reverend mothers in the Dune universe who ingest poison and use their mental abilities to change the chemical nature of the poison and survive.

Psychic balance really didn't make much sense in early pokemon though, that's for sure. Why is it weak to bug but strong against fighting?

>>4267564
Yeah, from what I can gather that change actually makes poison viable as a type (not to mention the debuffing of psychic in gen II and onward). Unfortunately Fairy type is NOT RETRO REEEEEEEE

>>4267928
Fighting pokemon use physical attacks. Kind of hard to hit an enemy if they can just stop your punches in midair using their mind.

>>4268268
Why are they weak to bugs then? There's just very little sense to it other than trying to achieve some limited degree of balance without just making the entire game rock, paper, scissors (i.e. every type has the same pattern of strengths and weaknesses).

>>4267928
brain over brawn, mind over matter

bugs are witless with a hivemind mentality so you can't mess with their brains

alternative explanation is that the psychic weaknesses represent the common human fears - bugs, ghosts and the dark - though it's a bit of a stretch because in Japanese dark type is just evil type, it doesn't refer to actual darkness

>>4267928

bene gesserit witch!

>no mention of Starmie

Shit taste, all of you

>>4268958
>brain over brawn
>bugs are witless
Ergo psychic beats bug, right? But it doesn't.
There are lots of ways to explain it, but it isn't actually based on any particular logic. It's just game balance after all the obvious stuff like fire being weak to water is taken care of.

Who /primeape/ here?

>>4257615
>He actually looks menacing here
This. The ghost pokemon actually looked scary.

>>4258782
Wrong. Haunter would actually look at the player rather than the pokemon or trainer. He was the more spooky though.

>>4261394
Stop shitposting, mong.

>x4 psychic damage in gen I where psychic is OP
>x2 ground damage when earthquake and dig are common late-game
>shitty move and learnset
>stupid trade requirement
>requires insane grinding
There are like 25 pokemon I would rather have on my team. Dragonair is probably the best gen I pokemon (because of dragon type and NOT flying which fucks up his resistances unlike fat disney retard dragonite) along with Alakazam (because of speed and insane psych OP). Nidoking is solid but poison is still a weak type. Charizard is awesome because of his types and moves, but charmander is a burden early game. Snorlax is also way up there but iirc his moves arent too special in gen I.

If we're talking Gen 2, Snorlax might be GOAT, Gengar still has shit moves and dies to a lot of moves, and the entire steel type in general will fuck you up. If gen 2 is considered my dream team would be

Crobat
Scizor
Snorlax
Lanturn
Alakazam
Charizard

Thats off the top of my head tho, and it's a very difficult team to get together.

>>4269413
Charmander's early game weakness is easily offset by the available early game mons.

>>4261053
Soooo... you're dead to 1 Raichu and 1 Machamp. Nice team, anon!

>>4259951
Crobat is a nice pick, Nidoking is useful but you're considering gen 2 anyways so he gets wrecked by Steel. Other picks are retarded. You're telling me you're gonna let Tentacruel Wrap my Snorlax to death? Is Weezing really gonna pull power moves out of his ass on par with Flamethrower, Earthquake or even Steel Wing?

>>4261067
Other than Gengar this is an amazing team

>>4261405
Holy fuck I gotta catch me a Tauros in my Red game at home. I never knew this, thanks anon!

Has anyone ever attempted the Battle Tower in Crystal? Its fucking IMPOSSIBLE.

>>4269428
who gives a shit, it's in-game teams

>>4257518
I've always been an Alakazam type of guy, but Gengar is pretty neato.

My favorite Gen 1 team is probably
>Charizard
>Pidgeot
>Alakhazam
>Dragonite
>Victreebell
>Lapras

Gen 2 has to be
>Tyranitar
>Skarmory
>Gengar
>Cloyster
>Houndoom
>Alakhazam

>>4269006
only reason to like starmie is the competitive viability. it looks like shit

>>4269428
As someone who's a huge huge fan of Pokémon and has played the series since Red on Game Boy. I can honestly say I have never given a shit about meta. I'd start a new game and try new teams and never thought about meta movesets and the like.

It's Pikachu, but only if you don't let him evolve.

>>4259719
>Chansey, Tauros and Exeggutor were way more potent.
Those required you to suffer through the Safari Zone though.

>>4257540
I disagree

>>4271126
Raichu > pikachu

Ash was a cunt for never evolving his.

>Gengar is the GOAT.
that would be Alakazam... get it? because he is literally a goat, being based on baphomet and all

>>4264035
>golem is adorable
What happened?

How about we agree that Pokemon is fucking gay and that if you like it you are an empty-headed moron with the taste and attention span of a 3 year old.

>>4257728
>Nidoking with Earthquake

>>4271794
Ooh, someone's feisty.

>>4259994
Practically every pokemon can learn Toxic unless they're the kind that can't learn anything.

>>4271794
This is /vr/, not /v/. People here actually like things.

>>4271791
he converted to islam

>>4271903
Yeah I like things. But not no faggot ass pokemon. I bet you like yokai watch too.

>>4261842

>replayed Pokemon Blue on the VC
>the "cave difficulty"

People who meme on how hard Pokemon was never played them since they were kids, or just straight up bad.

>>4267619
Looks pretty cool to me. What about his eyes?

>>4271921
Is this real lol

>>4269428
>Has anyone ever attempted the Battle Tower in Crystal? Its fucking IMPOSSIBLE.
The trick is that the set of pokemon and moves on any given level is always the same. You are supposed to keep fighting and losing until you've figured out all the pokemon you'll encounter on that level and come up with a team that has moves to beat any of them. Of course you could also just look it up.

You will definitely not get anywhere by merely picking three of your strongest pokemon at a given level. You have to optimize specifically for the set of pokemon you are going to encounter.

>>4271902
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. Poison type only has one strong offensive move, and the only other interesting poison type move, Toxic, can be learned by tons of non-poison type pokemon. So poison is a useless type offensively, and defensively it's mostly a weakness too.

I think we need to talk about this fucker right.
>insane speed, only mewtwo and electrode are faster, with good attack
>earthquake, magnitude, slash
>slash almost always crits due them being based on speed in gen 1
This guy basically soloed yellow for me. Other then hm slaves this guy was all I need, what a fucking trooper.

>>4272116
>I don't like pokemon
>Posts in pokemon threads
Your life sounds pretty pathetic.

Fucking gengarniggers can't contain themselves on /vp/ and have to shit yet another board up telling everyone how fucking awesome their shillmon is. I had little reason to dislike it before coming to 4chan, but you're literally giving me one extra reason per day.

>>4272153
Yes, it is.

>>4272282

>>4271749
He's also kind of based on foxes. This is particularly true of their previous forms in which they had tails.

>>4272282
I remember when I thought my party of 6 mons was tough because I explored thoroughly and never fled from a fight. I enjoyed Mt Moon which normies find exasperating and give up the game.

But then I was humbled by the lvl29 Dugtrio in the diglet cave who singlehandedly raped my whole team.

>>4267930
What do you mean? I just checked my game and it's right here

>>4272153
A lot of Kanto Pokémon got alternate forms in the most recent game that change their designs, typing, and movesets. Some of them have really silly designs.

>>4272784
Apparently I need to look seven posts beyond what I reply to so I can avoid redundancy. Have another Alolan Forme redesign.

>>4272773
That's a romhack not a pokemon game.

>>4272349
>takes 5 seconds to make a post
More pathetic than a bunch of grown men sperging out about a game designed for 6 year old japanese boys from almost 20 years ago?

>>4273172
>Hurrr I hate pokemon
>Continues to post in a pokemon thread
Autism sure is rough.

>>4273172
Hey kiddo /v/ is that way >>>/v/

>>4273172
>Retro video game board discussing a 20 year old game
Wow, that's a surprise...

>>4272793
i can't stop laughing

>>4257728
they're great

>>4268380
Because psychic type is about the mind, the weakness of the mind is fear: fear of insects, fear of ghosts, fear of evil, hence weakness to bug ghost and dark.

>>4274132
But not fear of fire or fear of thunder? Those are probably even more common fears than fear of bugs or ghosts.

Every explanation is going to be imperfect because there's no real reasoning behind it, just arbitrary choices. They didn't think very hard about it, and any thinking they did do was focused on achieving a playable balance.

>>4273817
>>4273840
>>4273913
3 man children with no life upset that some made fun of their precious pokemon still talking about a game where you catch little monsters that was designed for little kids.

its called being normal you cocksucking faggot, youd need to at least autistic to fucking retarded to still like a game for 5 year olds with no substance after 20 years.

oh you dont like pokemon and make fun of people for it? oh you must be from /v/! that's it I got em, right gotta get em all, right? really amazing deduction sherlock, or did you bumble into like nigel bruce's watson?

yeah actually its mostly the same games being talked about over and over and over again because everyone here is too stupid and afraid to actually explore something outside of the same fucking game they've been playing for 20 years because muh nostaliga helps me forget my life is a miserable and i want to an suicide

>>4274407
I have no horse in this race but I agree. I enjoyed Pokémon as a young kid, but I don't know a single person who still plays Pokémon in their adulthood who I wouldn't label as being severely autistic.

>>4272153
He's available as an alternate form in the new games, original Golems exist as they are and you can still get them. In fact these ones might become rare in the future, depending on how things turn out, potentially each future region will get their own variants of numerous classic pokémon, and this Golem might end up being one of many variants.

That said, I don't really see the issue, Golem as a word is from Jewish folklore IIRC, playing at it could seem as a fun idea just from design.

>>4274441
If I just casually enjoy the games on occasion (mostly when they're new and when I'm on the shitter), and mostly for the exploration, cute animals and cute girls, where does that place me in the autism scale?

Note that I don't play competitively or care about the breeding part or maximizing stats.

>>4257518
I like Gengar, but there's more adorable ghosts, and he isn't even a pure Ghost type.

>>4257648
Competitive is kind of gay desu.

>>4258157
His smile kind of works still.
It's very inviting and charming, which, if you want to put a horror spin on it, could be solely to get you to drop your guard or something.

Or he's just a fucker who likes messing with people and this is conveyed by that goofy, yet mischievous grin.

>>4259660
They're a bitch to catch too, but goddamn if they're nor worth it.

>>4274407
>muh nostaliga
It's retro video games, of course nostalgia is going to be a huge part you fucking mong.

Why do you keep replying if you hate pokemon so much?

>>4261842
>game series predicated on being Babby's First JRPG, with the franchise over all always having had kids as it's core demographic
>I-It's too easy!
What were your expectations?

>>4261869
Because it's for kids.
You can choose to not use the EXP share, but if you're disappointed in the lack of challenge in Pokémon of all games, you're looking at the wrong series to begin with.

>>4274407
>its called being normal
>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebook/

>>4274558
>>4274507
>>4261861
Just because it was never particularly hard doesn't excuse it for going full baby mode in later titles. There is a clear shift in design and it has ruined the series.

>>4275116

What has ruined the series is having more than 350 pokekeks.

>>4275130
>350
Arbitary number = you say this because you stopped following the series after this point

>>4275160
It'd be better if the previous generations weren't available in the current iteration.

>>4275163
>It'd be better if the previous generations weren't available in the current iteration.

I think you might have a point here. Every Pokemon has to be coded into every single game, and the amount of Pokemon keeps going up. I'm not sure how much farther that can go until developing titles with every Pokemon becomes impractical.

>>4275163
This is how I know you don't actually like pokemon

>>4275169
>I'm not sure how much farther that can go until developing titles with every Pokemon becomes impractical
They could go into the tens of thousands at least without it becoming programmatically "impractical" in any way. Likely much much higher than that depending on the architecture of the system for which the hypothetical game is being developed.

It becomes impractical from a character design/gameplay/branding perspective much sooner than that.

>>4275116
It does, actually, because it's for little children.

>>4275169
>and the amount of Pokemon keeps going up
They were gonna top it out at about 1000 or so IIRC

>>4275163
they tried that with rse but demand was so great they literally remade the originals to bring them back

>>4275654
I think at least part of that was to not just capitalize on a growing audience, but also to go back and redo some things proper.

The original games are a bit rough around the edges.

>>4257741
The fact that Fossil set Haunter was hoplographic pleased me greatly.

>>4275163
I agree, and they actually did this with Pokémon Black and White, but all the casuals and nostalgiafags widely panned the game because they couldn't catch Pikachu, even though the decision to have 150+ new Pokémon never seen before this game and not including any old ones until you beat the game was a deliberate homage to the feeling of exploration and newness found in the RBY.
It's a real shame, too, because ever since BW flopped with casuals (critically of course, it was fine financially just like all Pokémon games) Game Freak has taken the opposite approach to nostalgia pandering and just shoved as many Gen 1 Pokémon into the games as possible. The most recent entry in the franchise has more Kanto Pokémon than they do actually new Pokémon, XY had an obnoxious amount of Gen 1 callbacks and stolen beats from receiving a Kanto starter to getting a Lapras as a gift around the time you need to Surf to having a road blocked by a sleeping Snorlax that's woken up by a Pokéflute to LITERALLY TAKING VIRIDIAN FOREST AND COPYING IT WITH A DIFFERENT NAME.

>>4275660
>I think at least part of that was to not just capitalize on a growing audience, but also to go back and redo some things proper.
It was because they changed the data structure of a pokemon so much that it was no longer feasible to use a "time capsule" feature to transfer from gen I and II to gen III and beyond.

there is literally nothing worse than gengarfags

not even mewtwofags, pikachufags or charizardfags

>>4278640
Is this a meme I've missed? I haven't been to /vp/ in like 8 months.

>>4257518
>Alakazam uses Psychic
>It's super effective!
>Gengar faints

>>4257518
>Gen I
>Kadabra teleports behind you
>pssh nothing personal.... kid

>>4264035
>that fat fucking Blastoise

>>4279071
Fatoise reminds me of king pin from spiderman

>>4260006
Underrated post

Gengar
Gyarados
Articuno
Zapdos
Alakazam
Venusaur

Never not my gen 1 team.

>>4259485
I like goofy Gengar. He went from being intimidating to huggable.

>>4261858
Until recently, pokemon H-manga only ever got scanned if they were Misty or if they were by Gambler Club.

>>4257518
No

>>4272140
I get that its meant to seem like he's looking up to the side but it just looks like's a cross eyed retard

>>4280627
>second rate creepy pasta
>good

>>4280306
I like both.

>>4280315
A shame considering how many cute girls there are.

>>4257518
4x weakness to psychic, not to mention in gen 1 ghost type moves were ineffective against psychic types. Psychic's only weakness was bug, overpowered af. Gengar was still cool though

>>4276803
You're right, that's what I liked most about b&w. That WAS the most exciting part, the fact that I knew nothing about any of the Pokémon. That's what made it fun. No types, no abilities, you can either guess by looking at them or you catch them to find out. I didn't miss a patch of grass because I was anxious to see what kinds of Pokémon might be lurking in an area, and I was curious while battling new Pokémon wondering what they could evolve into and questioning whether or not they'd be worth putting in my team. That's what Pokémon is!

Now you just keep whatever Pokémon you already know are overpowered and toss away the ones you know aren't as good. Maybe you skip entire areas altogether because you know that in the next town there's a guy giving away a free Gyarados. There's no need to switch up your team because you already basically have your final team after the 2nd gym. No exploration. No trial and error.

Just sad.

>>4281682
>Now you just keep whatever Pokémon you already know are overpowered
I never play that way. I keep the pokemon I think look the coolest, and give 0 fucks about how strong they are.

If they aren't strong enough to beat a gym then I just level them up until they can.

>>4281780
I don't use "uber" Pokemon, I don't calculate stat values, I don't use cheating devices, I don't breed my way to perfection, and I don't care about natures. I catch my Pokemon the way they are, and treat them like individuals instead of brainless drones.

>>4257530
I liked Gengar so much when I was a kid I used to use a gameshark to change my starter to Ghastly in red whenever I started a new game, then iirc around lvl 40ish I would use the Gameshark to turn Haunter into Gengar. Sounds pretty autistic now that Ive just read it back.

>>4282750
That latter thing isn't that autistic, you don't always have a friend immediately nearby to trade with.

>>4282714
The best way to play in my opinion. My team is always made up of the pokemon I think are cool, or I like the most. If I catch one and I like it then it becomes part of my team.

I find it hard to swap out my early pokemon though. If I had a rattata for the first few towns, then I feel sad swapping it for something else.

>>4282786
Just use your spare gameboy and trade with yourself... That's how I did it when the games came out. Blue GBC for pokemon blue, and red/pink GBC for pokemon red.

>>4282954
Not everyone had two Gameboys and two copies of the games. I didn't have the ability to do that until the GBASP came out, when I could use my copies of Blue and Silver to trade.

>>4276803
Given how much money they do with Pokemon, there could be a spin-off for more exciting cutting edge features.

>>4283453
The last time they made a spinoff that played like and had compatibility with the main games was 2005. I actually liked the two Gamecube games they released then, the Shadow Pokémon mechanic made them really unique compared to the mainline games, but they haven't let Genius Sonority work on anything related to Pokémon since besides that one Wii knockoff of Stadium and some cheap puzzle spinoffs.

>>4283441
I forget that some people were poor

>>4283464
What gets me is the Shinies shadow forms had. Like Voltorb/Electrodes dark blue shiny was the shit. Too bad it doesn't retain the coloring after purification.

poliwhirl > poliwrath
machoke > machamp
ivysaur > venusaur
kadabra > alakazam

Haunter > Gengar

>>4257518
nah, son

>>4285330
Fill in that empty line with Dragonair > Dragonite.

>>4257728
Poison Runs were my shit. LeafGreen in particular

>>4280306
>removing Levitate

I'm still mad.

No one is a Koffing/Weezing fan? I find them incredibly underrated, especially giving how versatile they are for learning elemental moves and being able to poison a foe. I always at least have one Nidoking and one Weezing in my parties.

>>4286992
Koffing has the best goofy smile.

>>4286992
They just looked retarded though

>>4287230
That's what makes them great.

>>4261071
Ghost never stopped having a use at least. Shadow Ball in particular got a lot of use on high attack Normals and stuff like Banette or Medicham.

Was shit for Gengar though, no question.