/vr/ - Retro Games

I think I found a good score. Local lady is giving away a Sony Wega KV36FS17. Gonna scope it out tomorrow after work.

Thoughts? Seems to me that a solid Sony set fits that nice niche without getting into studio monitors

>>4245764
It's probably good, but bring a friend because that thing is going to weigh probably 180 lbs

>>4245767
>>4245764
no, bring 2 friends because 36 inch WEGAs weigh well over 200lb

>>4245767
>>4245772

Grabbing a strap dolly from work, I drive a pick up truck, should be alright. Hopefully my brother doesn't punk out on me. Thanks Anons

>>4245763
Bullshit image is bullshit.

sored a nice 26" Trinitron couple of weeks ago and been gaming on it since then, only thing im not sure about is this feature called V something that makes the image crispier....

Should i leave that on or not? i cant remember how Snes games looked like on my TV when i was a kid in the 90s.

>>4245824
Did you own a trinitron when you were younger? If not then it doesn't matter what it looked like in the 90s. I usually keep sharpness lower but that depends on what system im playing and what connection I'm using. For Composite I try to keep sharpness lower and generally raise it a bit with s video and better connections

>>4245785
This
My question is why are there so many troll pictures like this?

>>4245824
Velocity modulation is a form of artificial sharpening.

Not authentic and may actually reduce detail. Turn it off.

Someone left out a CRT on the curb and I picked it up. It's some Sony model and it has composite and S-Video input. Should I keep looking around for one that has component or should I just buy a new cable for my Wii?

>>4245930
It's perfectly good, keep it.
Do you want to spend all your time researching, hunting, and calibrating CRTs or do you want to play some fucking games?

>>4245956
Judging by the amount of sperging present in many CRT threads, I'd say he wants the former.

>>4245763
>No OP text

Never fall for the SCART meme.

>>4245824
No leave it off. It introduces artifacts.
>>4245897
People who own PVM's keep making them. They're retarded like that.

>>4245979
This is not the official CRT thread. It lacks all the links. Also, the original would not have used that picture.

>>4245979
Never fall for the irrational believe that there is something inherently wrong with SCART.

>>4245930
if you want component that bad then go to goodwill or something, they have like 20 crts up on display

I got mine for $10. s-video, composite, component, everything. the sound is terrible but eh you manage

>>4245983
>Never fall for the irrational believe that there is something inherently wrong with SCART.
Not hot-pluggable
Not durable
Never properly shielded
Power, video and audio on same cable - for real fans of crosstalk
Never came with consoles
Period accurate 1st party cables are impossible or expensive to get
Premium prices for non-shit switches
Not available in country that matters

>CRT specifications says 70kHz max.
>Get this with 2048x1152 (later 1536x1152 to fit the screen)
Can someone explain this to me? How is this possible? Samsung Syncmaster 753s if you want to check
>>4245685
Is that a PC CRT?
>>4245897
They want to feel special, also, that pic is from the My Life in Gaming videos

>>4245785
What's bullshit about it?

>>4245979

>>4245998
There was clearly no attempt at calibrating any of the displays, except maybe the PVM.

>>4245994
I'll take the bait
>Not hot-pluggable
>Not durable
>Never properly shielded
All wrong, maybe you should buy from an European dealer.

>>>>Period accurate
wooow cmon now

>Premium prices for non-shit switches
What do you mean?

>Not available in country that matters
Also the most butthurt country when it comes to a superior method for old video games

Anyone with real personal experience with playing /vr/ (and maybe 6th gen) consoles on HD CRTs? There's a kv-40xbr800 near me that I could get for $25, and I almost want it for the novelty of it's size alone.

Pow

>>4246046
>What do you mean?
You are better off with Extron switch and custom cables instead of waiting for and buying gscartsw.

>>4246049
I've done it, it's basically the same as playing retro on a flat screen. Doesn't look awful but it's not exactly right, and the display lag can make some games harder. Ideally you want to use HD CRTs with stuff like the GCN/Wii, Xboxs, and PS3/4 that can output HD resolutions. This is the path for bros that want to use crts for everything and not use any flat screens.

>>4246069
Well switches only MATTER to THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT MATTERS because they can't put in scart in every tv like we do

>>4246049
I have one that I bought for 10 bucks. It looks absolutely fine. I have an SD CRT as well, but the colors are a lot less vibrant than on the HD set. There's no scanlines though, so if you care about that you'll probably want to get a PVM instead.

>>4246083
I honestly don't notice any lag on mine. If there is any, it's imperceptible in most games.

>>4246085
If you have 5 and more consoles, you unplug them all the time depending on what you want to play?

>>4246098
yes. it doesn't take more than 15 seconds

>>4246126
You can also use one of these for like 5$.

I don't understand why some people waste so much money on expensive switches.

>>4246069
>you're better off making THE STACK for your own jurryrigged switcher-splitter
ftfy

>>4246134
Some of those bring slight sound buzz with them

>>4245979
>>4245994
Low quality stale bait.

Kek'ed at "Not hot-pluggable" though.

>>4245997
Specification is that, just a specification it has to at least support to be considered compatible.
A lot of hardware features way more features and support then the specification normally requires.

>>4246137
How's sound with this?
Any problems with image quality?

>>4246162
It's near perfect. Problems only happen when 2 or more consoles are powered at the same time, a situation not recommended even with the more advanced gscartsw.

>>4245763
what the point?

>>4246169
That's pretty cool. Clean your room

>>4246215
no point in cleaning when I'm in McGuyver mode.

>>4246221
Sure, but you're not always McGuyvering stuff anon, so clean your shit.

>>4246232
>you're not always McGuyvering stuff anon
you can't be more wrong

>>4246232
>you're not always McGuyvering stuff anon
Go away normie!

>>4246083
>>4246089
Hey, thanks for the advice! Guess I'll just pass on it and save myself the pain of moving 300+ lbs if CRT.

enjoy your blindness

>>4245979
>he's american
lmao

>>4246323
hows that smegma filled anteater dick treatin u

>>4246329
it dosen't matter how your dick looks like if you don't wash yourself
I recommend you learn about showers and how to wash your body

So I have a TV with a small but noticeable amount of purity error. It has dark splotches in the corners most noticeable on yellow and cyan backgrounds.

I ordered a degaussing ring but it will take 1month to arrive from China.
I want to try to fix this sooner by using the built-in degaussing coil.

Do CRTs degauss when you turn them off or when you turn them on?
How many times should I turn it off and on to make the internal degauss do all it can?
How long should I wait between each press of the power button turning it on or off?

>you will never pilot a giant robot

>>4246669
On
Half a dozen times
At least 30 minutes

>>4246812
Do I have to leave it on 30 minutes, off 30 minutes, or 30 minutes each on and off?

XRGB>PVM>SD CRT>HD CRT>HD LCD

>>4246831
That would be sensible, yes.

Rapid power cycling is never a good idea under any circumstances, especially with CRTs which will momentarily draw up to 50 amps or so at startup.

>>4246831
>>4246904
I mean 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off.

Hey guys,

I have a question about the 240p suite.

So I'm using a SNES it on a Trinitron to show a 256x224 resolution.

The grid isn't perfect and I haven't had any luck adjusting the horizontal cut off (none of the settings in the service menu seem to do it.) but it's decent.

What I want to know is, even if the grid looks reasonable, how do I know if the image is being squashed in any way? I look at images of the sprites on google like pic related, and something just seems off compared to what I have on my screen.

Yoshi looks a little wider, but I'm not sure if this is just what 4:3 does to the sprites.

Hopefully that makes sense.

>>4246915
The SNES "pixels" are not square.

So I have a problem where my microphone picks up this very audible and irritating frequency that you normally can't hear from my (VGA) CRT monitors, most likely some kind of electromagnetic interference. If anyone has any solution (other than sticking a piece of metal in between the mic and the monitors) or knows of a mic that doesn't have issues with EMI than please let me know.

>>4246934
This. They are supposed to be 8:7 rectangles.

raisin acts and takin names

>>4245772
You need three people to lift 200 lbs? How weak are you and your two friends? I'm not a strong guy, but I can lift a tv into a car or truck by myself. I can see wanting a buddy, but needing two?

what will you do when your crt dies and all the crt's you can find are failing?
the end of the crt is near, accept your new god. Get a good quality scaler, take
the XRGBmini or the OSSC into your hearts!

welcome

>>4246137
pretty neat, but I'd still rather have a extron

>>4247339
It's about maneuvering 200lbs. Said crt is around 230-240 and unwieldy, and 2 average people would most likely fail to carry that thing down a flight or 2 of stairs unaided, given its dimensions.
When the sellers put the tv in their garage or something to be picked up is great, but you can't always expect an easy carry to your car.

>>4247339
Just playing devil's advocate here, but maybe he'd want two people for less risk of damaging the TV or whatever he's moving to on/past? I can lift and move a 200lb CRT on my own but I sure won't be able to handle it as precisely and carefully as I'd like.

I have a 14m2u which does RGB over bnc and I just picked up one of these BNC to female VGA connectors. Will this allow me to use my dreamcast with the PVM with just a simple dreamcast VGA cable?

>>4247441
Not without modification, the Dreamcast VGA cables make it give a 480p output by default, which your PVM doesn't support.

/crt/, I feel like I'm ever so close to getting my Trini's geometry in better order. last thread someone said reducing the TV's "picture" setting would remove some of the bowing distortion. I booted up 240pTS and sure enough it does the closer you get to 0. The issue is that the screen is super dark afterwards. Would raising brightness remedy this? Anyone have any good premade settings?

Model KV24FS120 if anyone's wondering. Pic related, note the entire left side has this odd curve.

>>4246154
Is there a problem if I keep using that resolution? Other than it's small as fuck for desktop use on a 17" monitor

>>4247543
Did you set the brightness using the PLUGE test pattern (you should use the RGB Full Range pattern and the 1 IRE bar should be just barely visible against the background). Black level is subtly affected by the Picture control, but it shouldn't take more than a click or two to correct it. If the TV behaves anything like other Trinitrons I've worked with, your light output should be basically correct with the Picture control set anywhere from 1/8 to 1/4 of its maximum--these tubes can get truly excessively bright, which will introduce all kinds of distortion.

You might also try disabling Scan Velocity Modulation if your TV has it, since that causes nothing but problems. But sadly, some of the issues are simply due to geometry being a lot wonkier on flat tubes.

I'm pretty much completely new to this, I kept my childhood SNES and it's been collecting dust.

I snatched up this Philips Magnavox for free from somebody on Craigslist. What is the general consensus on this type of CRT? I don't even know where to find the specific model, but my SNES games look decent on it, I think. Am I just a hopeless pleb even though I'm having fun?

>>4246137
>just fucking soldering those wires onto it like that
Very schway.

>>4247714
If you're having fun then fuck what anybody else thinks.

>>4247583
It will be okay, unless it's making whining noises, what it probably isn't, else you'd say that

>>4247543
Oh look, meme flat screen WEGA/Trinitron.
You do realize the half curved consumer Trinitrons exist? Usually black cased, accept RGB SCART and PAL60.

>>4245778

I pulled this exact TV out of a ladys house last year. Its more like 230 pounds. But its not the weight, its the lack of places to grab the damn thing. You couple that with tricky corners and going through doors and it gets kinda dicey.

We did a little damage to their door frames and it's still sitting in my garage because I refuse to bring it upstairs to my office because its too damn heavy. I need to clear a space in my living room and right now thats not happening.

>>4247714
The model number should be written on the back.
Post it here so we can evaluate it.

Any info on the Hantarex CT37"IDTV ?
It has composite, svideo, DB9 RGB, VGA, but I don't know if it's proper multiformat or if it does scaling on 15khz resolutions.
And it's too far for testing.

>>4248306
WEGAs are superior to Hi-blacks (so called because they're black and sit atop their speakers) in most ways.

Less screen glare (light reflection)
Better stereo separation (speakers on the sides)
More inputs (3-4 instead of 1-2)
Component inputs (instead of just S-video)
Inputs on the front panel (and headphone jack too)
Easier to find (being 5+ years newer)
Greater selection (since there are more of them on Craigslist you can pick the best model instead of settling for the single Hi-black available)
More options in the service menu (secret menu for advanced tweaking)

The only advantages of Hi-black are:
Better linearity,focus,convergence (will still need calibration to be perfect)
Easier to lift (lighter and narrower to get your arms around)

>>4248378
The two advantages you listed for the Hi-blacks are the most important damn things.

>>4248378
>Less screen glare (light reflection)
This is false. I have owned plenty of both, there's no difference in glare.

>Better stereo separation (speakers on the sides)
Nobody uses the build in speakers in the first place. I haven't used build in speakers on any of them for years.
My SCART switch has an audio output.

>More inputs (3-4 instead of 1-2)
You still have only one SCART and maybe 3 composite and 2 S-Video inputs, made entirely irrelevant because you would only use RGB SCART or have a SCART switch (even for composite/S-Video consoles hooked onto it).

>Component inputs (instead of just S-video)
Irrelevant in SCARTland.

>Inputs on the front panel (and headphone jack too)
So does >>4248306
PVMs don't even have that, are they shit now?

>Easier to find (being 5+ years newer)
Not an argument, they are still severely shittier.
The black consumer Trinitrons are plentiful and usually go for 5€ here, there's 2 for that sum on sale on my local sales site already. The main one I use right now I got for free.

>Greater selection (since there are more of them on Craigslist you can pick the best model instead of settling for the single Hi-black available)
It's still shit. Go to the park, there's a great selection of dogshit also. And see above argument.

>More options in the service menu (secret menu for advanced tweaking)
More? Like what? The service menu for those Trinitrons already contains everything.

>Better linearity,focus,convergence (will still need calibration to be perfect)
Pretty huge advantage, as it's _literally_ a device you use for viewing.

>Easier to lift (lighter and narrower to get your arms around)
They also have handles.

Found the butthurt WEGA faggot trying to justify his TV.
I'm not even being elitist here, the black consumer Trinitrons aren't some magical things.

My CRT has two options in the menu: CABLE (1-125 channels) and ANT (2-69 channels)
Why do these two separate modes exist?
Which one will give me better picture and audio quality for my RF consoles such as Atari 2600, Colecovision, and Xbox?

>>4248394
one is for cable TV the other is for aerial antenna TV
it's just pre mapped channels, try cable as the antenna one might be using some amplification that's unnecessary

>>4248378
>WEGAs are superior to Hi-blacks
Maybe for watching your DVDs on your composite DVD player, not for playing multiple consoles.

>WEGA fanboys are a thing

Black and white video uses less bandwidth than colour video.

Does anyone know if VHS releases of classic B&W films have more detail or resolution than colour VHS releases because of this?

What about B&W DVDs?

What about B&W Laserdiscs?

What about B&W VCDs?

>>4248420
they do, do an extent
all of them

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/ele/d/vintage-mini-tube-tvs/6296094077.html

Should I get these CRTs?
What value do they have for retro gaming?

>>4248395
Besides amplification for ANTenna do you think one of these two options might be more accurately aligned/mapped to the channel 3 and 4 that I will be using?

>>4248447
none, if you see someone with them, they are _literary_ being hipster faggots

>>4248420
>>4248437
Not really. The luma and chroma signals are separate. The absence of a chroma signal doesn't increase the resolution of the luma signal any more than turning down the color control on your TV set does; that is, it will be easier to see the detail of the luma signal without the lower resolution chroma signal overlaid on it, but the level of detail hasn't changed.

>>4248447
CRT good. Retro game CrT need . Buy n64 dunnys loot crate dlc. Need crt for retro game nes

>>4248492
>it will be easier to see the detail of the luma signal without the lower resolution chroma signal overlaid on it
this will turn a single composite signal almost as good as RGB is with color
only that the source is still shit
probably best results with B/W DVD movies

>>4248338

Here's the model, can't find anything about it online.

>>4248773
I found the instruction manual here:

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/518410/Magnavox-Tp2784c.html#manual

So some time ago I suggested using an sdi capture card to output emulator image to a CRT, eliminating game hardware and still getting high quality image. Some anon told me the output isn't rgb so it will look like poo. Well that's not true. Most capture cards support rgb with various combinations of sync signaling, 8bit and 10bit. They are mostly meant for character generator processing so output rgb is sort of a requirement.
So I think getting a used sd capture card for cheap and then building up an application utilizing the hardware could prove sucessful.

>>4247410
>>4247339
You guys can't move 200 lb. CRTs on your own

Can someone please explain why my nes displays all in green? I can see the game and play it but it's all in different shades of green. I'm new to this whole crt stuff, I just got some kind of video monitor for cheap and all my other consoles look flawless. Nes is connected through scart that goes through a bnc adapter. Switching the cables around doesn't do much.

>>4246060

Why'd you post Ghost Trick?

>>4248884
I looked up the model I had to move (RCA F36669) and while you may be correct, 190lbs is still damn close.

>>4248908
Please give the crt model to know what type of input it expects.

>>4248884
Gotta use those forearm forklifts

>>4245824
Who be this? Sauce?

>>4248447
I would get those unless you want them for your collection.

>>4248447
I wouldn't get those unless you want them for your collection.

>>4247714
I have a philips magnetbox as well, I really like mine and I prefer it to my hd trinitron for most systems

Just got a 21x5u.

Now this grid looks pretty good to me but I'm a newbie so I was wondering if this is what it should look like?

Does this look like a normal 4:3 sprite?

>>4249189
Looks fine. You're unlikely to be able to do a lot better than that.

>>4249236

For some reason I thought the red bit of the screen shouldn't be visible?

>>4249276
No, the red bit should absolutely be visible. It's just that most developers of the era won't include any game-critical information in the red area, as the inconsistent nature of overscan on CRTs meant there was a chance that it would be cut off. Your grid looks basically exactly as it should.

>>4249276
as >>4249282
you can bite a bit into the red and still be fine, especially on the horizontal axis.
The NES is notorious for having a lot of garbage in the red area.

>>4248773
>>4248807

"Year 2000 ready"
Kek

This is a good CRT.
Large but not too heavy for one man to move around.
A nice curved screen for better linearity/focus/convergence
Two inputs, one of which has S-video
Not just audio outputs for connecting to an amp and speakers but also video out for recording to a VCR or having two displays showing the same game (demonstrate to your friends how LCDs ruin the picture of old consoles).


Did you get the original remote for it?
If not, phone the seller and ask them if they have it.
Don't be shy.

>>4247339
>>4247408
>>4247410
>>4248884

OP here, friend and I were able to maneuver the 240lb Trinitron onto the back of my small truck and into my basement.

Strap dolly is key gentlemen.

>>4249176
>Magnavox 27MS3404
Also a good TV
Component and S-video on the back and composite+headphone jack on the side.

Best way to pipe VGA -> RGB SCART?
I have a Soft15khz compatible card, is there a cable for me or will I need something else?

My Panasonic TV has in the menu a choice of Mono, Stereo, and SAP for sound.
This option is only accesible when using RF so it must only apply to RF.

I thought all analogue TV broadcasts were mono?
When did stereo audio on old coaxial cable TV become a thing and how widespread was it?

Did any console ever output stereo through its RF output?
Did any console ever output SAP (secondary audio program used for alternate language) through its RF output?
Did any console ever output video captions/subtitles/teletype for the TV to decode through its RF output?

North America uses channel 3 and 4 for RF consoles.

What channels do Japanese consoles use for RF tuning?

>>4249443
95~96
it gets radio interference in the US

>>4245997
>1536x1152 to fit the screen
At 70hz? Thats pretty slick if so. I have a GDM FW 900 in storage, and generally you can run the resolution past what the specs say at default resolution. I use nvidia's built in shit, and it works fine for screwing around. Finding the sweet spot for refresh rate and iq. For years I ran it at 1280x800 @ 140hz. It made me ill for a few days because of how smooth it is. Vsync'd games look amazing. I had that monitor 10 years before I downgraded to a 144hz lcd. I never got rid of the crt, and am thinking about selling this monitor

>>4249393

Yep, they gave me the original remote. Out of curiosity- why does that matter? I have a Wii U plugged into it (with Wii AV cables, to play Metroid Prime trilogy) and I've just been using the gamepad to turn the TV on and off and change inputs.

>>4249473
>non integer scaling

>>4248884

I'm getting ready to move my 230lb 36inch WEGA soon. Straps, blankets, and a hand truck. The thing is a beast. Fuck bringing it up stairs.

>>4249489
>Fuck bringing it up stairs.
Thats as much as a respectable fridge, just in a smaller more awkward package. I would tell you to engineer something to avoid back and body injuries to the anons involved with that feat. If you know anyone with a small toboggan, you can place down plenty of foam and blankets to protect the screen, and drag it up with ropes/push it up from behind.

>>4249495

There are two landings, each requiring a 90 degree turn to the right. Plus the office where I'd like to put it seems pretty small.

I would put it face down, wrapped in a blanket, on top of cardboard, on top of another blanket. Then I would tie straps around it and have two people pull from the top (fuck being below the thing).

I'm sure we can do it, I just don't want to fuck with it. I can live with it in the living room, but the house is pretty small and we have little space to spare as it is. The wife knows I like this shit, and its not like she could move it anyway once I place it somewhere.

Just gotta figure out where I want to stick it before winter.

How do I adjust the geometry if I don't know the password to my pvm. I have some obscure European brand and I can't find any info online, it's frustrating.

>>4249276
I set mine so the red dots are on the edges of the screen. HUDs are fully visible and no garbage.

>>4249504
>Just gotta figure out where I want to stick it before winter.
I know the feel. My buddy probably has the exact same model. He moves in with this woman, and long story short he got had for loads of cash. In a 3 month period we moved it from his home, down a flight and a half with the 90 turn....to his apartment down one flight (basement style) with another 90 turn. ....and then returned it as if it never happened. The apartment was called "The Den of Woe" within the circle. I don't know the reference, but it is 100% true.

Yes. Heavy monster. 3 man move for a good time. Protect fingers and toes at all costs. My wife cleared me for whatever tv I want...I am scared of your exact situation because I can quickly get a free 32" or bigger.....

>>4249521


I'm not too worried. Its a KV-36FS13 so its heavy as FUCK. Right now its in my garage wrapped in a blanket, so it's fine for long term storage. It's already spent a winter in cold storage in a DIFFERENT garage before moving here, my last place was a 3rd story walk up and there is no way in fuck I am moving this thing once its put down. I'll burn the house down before I move it again.

I just want it have it in a nice place where I can enjoy playing on it, the office is too out of the way, I want it in the den but its already pretty cramped. Either way its here to stay.

>>4249526

https://imgur.com/r/crtgaming/kK6Q8

Here is someone who has the 27inch version of what I have, Its glorious to see when its in full action, but fuck if its not the biggest god damn thing I've ever moved.

>>4249463
If I get a Famicom will I be able to tune to channel 95 or 96 and get the same good picture as channel 3 or 4 on the NES or are the frequency ranges for channels slightly different on Jap TVs than US TVs and thus create an effect similar to tuning near but on directly on a radio station and hear lots of static?

How badly does the interference from radio you mentioned affect the picture?

>>4249472
You need the remote to go into the secret service menu and tweak the picture to be even better. For example you can make the image be perfectly centered on the screen and adjust overscan.
Make sure you write down all original values before changing anything.

Plus it's just a shame to pick up a good TV but forget to get the remote.
Last time I picked up a TV from the side of the road I knocked on the house behind it and got the remote from them.

>>4249479
oh thats right, I had it set at 320x240, ty for reminding me

>>4249473
>>4249479
Seriously, what a dumb faggot. You go through the whole ordeal of getting your gay little CRT setup because it's the trendy thing to do and you can't even get something this simple correct

>>4249575
>>4249563

calm down homie

>>4249516

Could you post a picture?

>>4249581

post another pic when you get the scaling right, it looks beautiful

>>4249538
The frequencies for Japan VHF Broadcast 1/2 are same as US Cable 95/96, a bit above the top of the US VHF low band. If using a TV without support for the cable frequencies you may need a separate tuner.

>>4249623
>If using a TV without support for the cable frequencies you may need a separate tuner.
Most VCRs will work.

Can someone explain why the 240 suite grid fits almost perfect through a real SNES, but is cut off slightly on the top and sides when loading the Wii version?

Is it just the difference in resolutions? SNES games emulated on the Wii stil seem to fill the screen properly regardless, as well as NES and Genesis, but I just wondered.

>>4249656

It's both RGB if that matters

>>4249601
just for you anon

>>4249656
different values for front/back porch and sync width, for both horizontal and vertical

>>4248914
Why not?

>>4249439
NICAM stereo broadcast was widespread in europe from the late-80s onwards.

I have a stereo Bang & Olufsen Beovision 7802 from 1985 and I believe it was the first stereo TV full stop. Could be wrong on this though.

>>4249845

I just don't get what it has to do with the thread and all.

I heard that PVMs and other pro gear 15 KHz monitors have louder 15Khz tone ?or was it louder coil whine? than consumer CRTVs.

Is this true?
If so, why? I thought PVM were supposed to be better in every way but size and sometimes speakers.

>>4250384
Yes, they are approximately .73% louder due to copper displacement within the coils.

>>4248993
underrated post. These are a godsend

>>4245994
Period accurate? What the fuck does that even mean?

How good are Hitachi CRT TVs?

Are they as good as other Jap brands like JVC and Toshiba?

Someone should post a tier list of CRTV brands.

In my trinitron service menu there's a section of settings which doesn't let me adjust anything.

I'm particularly interested in turning off velocity modulation, as I've seen that be recommended before, although I'm not sure why.

If it doesn't say anything the service manual am I fucked?

>>4250737
You should not need to go into the service menu to turn off VM. It is found in the regular menu.

Velocity modulation is a post processing, lag inducing, artificial sharpening that adds harsh edges to objects and ultimately decreases the level of detail in the image despite increasing the contrast between objects. Only normies leave VM on.

If you cannot adjust it in the menu you are probably on the wrong video mode like AV instead of RF or RF instead of AV.

>>4248492
Ok so B&W movies on VHS,VCD,LD, and DVD do not have increased resolution compared to colour movies on the same formats (though in practice the image will be a little clearer without the colour overlaid onto it and you can achieve this in videogames by reducing the saturation on your set to 0).

My question is then: Can VHS and LD hold more content (longer movies/multiple movies, more special features) with B&W content than with colour?

What about VCD and DVD? Can they hold more content (longer movies/multiple movies, more special features) with B&W content than with colour?

I am thinking of recording "how to beat X game" videos on these formats to give to my friends. Colour will not be necessary for these videos.

>>4250927
VHS and LD, no.
DVD and VCD, if encoding properly setup, yes.

Any tips for calibrating blue/red/green drive with the naked eye? I can never tell when the brightest colors blend and my picture always ends up tinted slightly red or blue.

Is it possible to broadcast into the air the RF signals of consoles and receive them on multiple TVs in separate rooms?

If so, please give step by step instructions to get equipment and set it up.

Also, what precautions should I take to avoid ZOG taking notice and throwing me into the nigger cage for broadcasting without liscence?

>>4250938
You can't set white point anywhere close to accurately with the naked eye. Get a probe or don't fuck with it.

>>4250938
>>4250963
That being said, if you do have a measurement device, use a 30 IRE test pattern to set the cuts/low-end and an 80 IRE pattern to set drives/high-end. Go back and forth until you get consistent readings for both. Aim for x=.3127 y=.329

How come my Sony CRT TV makes a loud noise when turned on but my Sharp and Philips CRT TVs make a soft noise turning on?

Do Sony CRTs have stronger, more effective degaussing capability?

>>4248453
Shouldn't make any difference, the channels from 2-69 are identical frequencies on cable and broadcast.

>>4250982
probably or it might just be older.

>>4250280
Oh, I just posted it as I was playing it on my crt monitor, and since this is a crt thread I wanted to show it off

>>4250580

Unless its a Trinitron, Diamondtron, or that JVC D'Art I usually just keep on walking, at least with consumer grade tvs.

>>4250942
Dont bother, just run coax to all the tvs you want broadcasted to and split from the source

>>4249428
Pls clap

>>4250942
It is possible, for very short range can just use a regular RF modulator with an antenna attached on its output. For more power look up a Blonder Tongue Agile Modulator. So long as you stay in VHF band the odds of anyone noticing are small.

>>4251349
Will sticking a coathanger into the RF jack on the back of the console work?
Do I need to also stick a coathanger into the RF jack (with RCA adapter) on the back of my TV?
Should these coat hangers be straightened out into a long stick or just leave them looping back on themselves?

>>4251450
Try it and see what happens. Don't expect anything more than a snowy picture at best.

>>4251450
Just use coax cable to make the connections.

Checking out a 20l5 on Wednesday. Should I pick it up for 350 if it's geometry is all in order? I really like the way my 20g1u looks and overall think it's cooler to have a BVM over PVM but at the same time playing all my 6th gen games in progressive is an awesome opportunity.

What do you guys think?

Long time lurker, first time poster here! I hope that some anon could help me out

I have a problem with my Commodore 1702. I use it with my C64 on the rear input and my PS2 with modbo on the front. When I run NTSC games there are black bars on the bottom and top but they are in a weird shape. It's most noticeable on the bottom part, it looks like part of the black bar got misaligned or something. Also it never happens with the C64 or PAL games.
What could be the problem?

>>4253503
Can you post a picture? NTSC doesn't have the same vertical resolution as PAL, so that may have something to do with it.

>>4253503
I realized that I'm pretty shit at explaining the exact problem, so here's a pic.

Toni Cipriani says hi btw.

>>4253495
>tfw getting pvm cucked on /vr/
well shite, looks like my search continues. Good work anon. Hope the monitors in good condition.

what types of maintenance could be done to preserve a PVM-20L5 indefinitely?

>>4245998
Try and Coury don't have a way of direct capturing CRT displays, so they just point a camera at the screen and adjust to avoid flicker

i have some

>>4253707
How does one directly capture a CRT display without pointing a camera at it?

Radio emissions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking

>>4253517
Your monitor probably can't properly handle PAL60 format signals, it's expecting more lines of actual picture at the end.

>>4253745
some dead bodies?

What are some good models of CRT monitors to look for? Also is it fairly easy to convert a component signal to VGA?

>>4253684
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>>4253595
What do you mean?

>>4254938
Pretty sure i was looking into the same CL listing you are. Unless there's a crazy model/price combo coincidence.

Do you think pic related can play my NTSC N64 at true 60hz in color?

I've been through 5 eurocuck CRTs that didn't work..

>>4255625
http://educypedia.karadimov.info/library/sony-chassis-ae5.pdf

>Spanish one
Does this mean it would work? I'm not sure of anything anymore.

>>4255627
It lists compatibility with both types of NTSC signal for all variations so I don't see why not.

>>4249489

refer to

>>4249410
>>4248993

>>4255593
>crt penta
Why am I laughing

>>4245824
Now that's a fine looking lady. What a gorgeous smile she has

>>4255593
Sorry brah

>>4257108