/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

300 MINUTES OF /vr/
-Speedmapping project managed by 300manager !Os4LYDp5eQ
-29 maps currently made
-Extended until 30 or 32 maps are made
-Original rules can be found here
->>/vr/thread/4172380#p4173453

QUMP
-May be released soon?
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

HUMP
-Project is underway
-All rules found here
-https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57649&p=1014985#p1014985

OP
-Looking to update the OP, suggestions are welcome

=== NEWS ===

[9-1] Anon made a website for uploading and sharing WAD and PK3 files
http://thevidya.site/

[9-1] Anon remakes E1M1 in ROTT
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k1nj0mronfq1uu0/WANWAN.RTL?dl=0

[8-31] Tim Willits BTFO
http://rome.ro/news/2017/8/30/multiplayer-only-maps

[8-31] Colorful Hell 0.91
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=465#p1016169

[8-29] Juvenile Power Fantasy v1 release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57092

[8-25] Lithium v1.5 released after 9000 years
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1015558#p1015558

[8-24] Quake Champions: Doom Edition (QCDE) Teaser (DBThanatos)
https://youtu.be/oskVB0BHc3I

[8-23] Doomskater v1 released; removes friction
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57659

[8-22] Intermission E2M8, featuring Alfonzo and MTrop
https://youtu.be/VCgmx80QoPY

[8-22] Anon shares a level
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4202793/#4206613

[8-22] Doomguy to get Classic, Q3, and D3 armors in Quake Champions

[8-22] D4D put on hiatus
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54843&start=540#p1015023

[8-21] Realm of Suffering updated
-http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=81599347127484224044
-https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4202793/#4204581

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

Would you like to submit any news, personal releases, or other contributions? Just reply/backlink to this post with a link.

Getting in early here since my post went completely unnoticed last thread:

I've been building a self-contained, portable DOOM WAD collection (presented as a '90s diskzine) to make the whole mess of engines / WADs / configuration more accessible. I've put together a complete Cacowards 2015 package, if you'd like to give it a whirl, here: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/

The last not-Doom game you've played must now be recreated as a Doom mod or have a mod made that's heavily inspired by it in one way or another. Describe what that hypothetical mod is like; weapons, monsters, gameplay overhauls, whether or not it would even be possible to recreate said game within Doom at all. Go wild.

>>4230382
Someone is already making Quack Champs in Doom. Why, I don't know, other than probably "to see if it can be done."

>>4230370
i remember this. sorry you were overlooked. not something i'd be interested in personally but i wish you well.

>>4230370
This is really neat, anon.

>>4230382
>Sonic Mania
Hell, I'd love to see a mod that takes inspirations from the special stages. Doomguy running super fast around a track to collect health bonuses as he slowly loses health, getting some kind of power-up orbs to go faster and faster while hunting down a speedy cacodemon to punch with his fists while drifting around tight corners. In later stages there could be imps or mancubi on the outskirts to try and attack you to lower your health, or lost souls in the track to stop you as an obstacle. Maybe even picking up some keys could unlock shortcut paths and bonuses?

>>4230382
I'm not sure if it would work.

>>4230405
Do some sprite swaps, add a few animations, and add a few new sound effects and it's basically just Doomguy punching a Cyberdemon to death. It'd have to be much more of an "inspired by" mod than a total recreation, I'd think.

>>4230382
Might be a lot of work to make it worthwhile.

>>4230382
Player unknown battlegrounds...hmmm....

We already got Doom & II ported to the GBA but will it be possible to port HeXen to the GBA? What are the possibilities?

>>4230382
>game

>>4230382
>killing floor 2
>perk levels that stay between playtroughs
>special bonuses every 5 levels, that you can switch around when entering new map
>every weapons has 1 or 2 sidegrades that you can buy, some with overlap between two perks

>>4230429
People are still playing that shit? How?

>>4230456
I only first played it last year.
That said, I don't play it regularly. I just needed to feel.

>>4230419
1&2 barely fit as it was; no monster lighting, no back sprites, no depth-fade, no sound-propagation. It's just 16 MHz and 256K RAM!

Hellcore 2.0 with DoomRLA is an interesting, frankly terrifying experience.

HL2.0 is already a creepy and frankly terrifying mapset but combined with that RNG aspect and the survival horror esq nature of many of the maps it's starting to feel like a Hideous Destructor esq. descent into the bowels of hell itself.
I'm not sure certain sections of this mapset are even possible without my expanded arsenal. I'm on Map10 and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have made it nearly this far without my nuclear BFG9000 and nuclear armor.
Hobbs End Horror is a nice In the Mouth of Madness reference, but jesus christ would that map be nearly impossibly without my Nano Double shotgun with a sniper mod.

>>4230518
Oh and I'm pretty sure the PSX sounds help with that feel a lot too, jesus fucking christ do they.

>>4230518
Wonder how it'd play with SUAB? Seems like it could be good horror (though with maybe not the best gameplay).

>>4230534
I've heard about Shut Up and Bleed for a while now but I've never tried it yet. I might try it later. Small spoiler but some of the latter levels of Hellcore 2.0 verge on slaughter WAD levels (Hobbs end especially). Anything that adds respawning enemies to something like that is going to verge on impossible (which sections of RLA already do)

Also, if anyone is familiar with the mapset could you tell me what I need to do here? IT seems to require an orange key, I have an orange key, and I can't seem to open the passage.

>>4230539
I did play it a long time ago, the slaughter wasn't so much my taste.

I don't really remember what they wanted me to do with that orange key though, it's all a fuzz.

>>4230545
It's a path to a later level but it's weird honestly. I can't seem to open it from the other side either.

What would you rather have back?

The Unmaker...

>>4230565
... or The Soul Cube?

>>4230436
>KF2-based mod

Would it be so fast that the closed-in maps fuck you over by incredibly aggressive monster spawning?

>>4230575
Nah, remove random spawns. Go chillax if you want to powerlevel.

Ok guys, I get rock hard for tc wads, what's some good ones? I already played:
>Pirate doom
>Action doom 1/2
>Woolball
>Nido force
>Square
>Harmony
>Hocus
What other stuff should I check out?

>>4230584
Batman Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuPC-J38X10&user=ICARUSLIV3S

I've literally have been getting angry much more often for some reason, its fucking with my doom skills cause I get mad when I fuck up and everything else
how do i make this stop

>>4230584
Wolfenstein: Blade of Agony
Project Einherjar
and my favorite, Doom: The Golden Souls

>>4230357
I know that System Shock Portable can't be obtained officially anymore due to Night Dive deciding to file a DMCA C&D involving it. Let's hope that they start to get at slightly softer on their stance after the remake is released.
Anyway, any torrents sites that might still have SS1 Portable?

>>4230382
sonic mania recreated in doom... a sonic game in doom engine... hmmm... hmmmmmm..... impossible

>>4230385
Well the netcode can't be worse.

>>4230565
>>4230568

Unmaker because I prefer challenging bosses over homing instakill full heal weapons.

>>4230382
>Bloodborne

I bet there's already a mod like that. Hopping mechanics in the doom engine could be neat though.

>>4230605
>impossible
That's where you're wrong, kiddo
Check that shit out: https://www.srb2.org/

>>4230626

how the FUCK do i pass a string from a weapon decorate actor definition to a ACS script that it calls?

>>4230647
Good fuckin luck m8, you'd probably be better off just hardcoding all the names as using a switch.

>>4230654
i just want to set a fucking cvar

why is the string handling in this game so fucking shit

>>4230614
It can, if someone makes it in Frostbite 3

>>4230614
what if they made it in zdoom

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php

Guys, holy shit.

>>4230679
Holy HUUH

>>4230679
You forgot the thread link.
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61507

What in the actual goddamn HUH am I looking at?

whats the technical reason behind why weapons can't store user variables?

>>4230687
what in the hell
>want to comment on the thread
>locked myself out of my func_msgboard account somehow
>the saved password isn't taking and I have no idea what the hell else it would be
GOD DAMN IT, it only had two posts but still, that means that username is unavailable now!

>>4230693
Called from the actor owning the weapon, not the weapon.
Just put a uservar in the player actor and then modify and call user var from acs.
You can even specify which user var from acs args by packing and then unpacking hex, 4 characters per arg I think, it's not that difficult. If you want only letters and want 6 chars you can go base 36.

>>4230647
>>/vr/thread/S3151932#p3152059
Have fun, the conversation goes through the thread and isn't really massed in one post.

>>4230584
>PSX TC (with Lost Levels)
>TrumpDoom

>>4230584
Strange Aeons

>>4230584
Uac ultra.

>>4230696
Whew, made a typo someplace and managed to figure it out.

Maps look crazy though, I'm guessing the one in that screenshot has some gravity-fuckery going on. I know one (or more) of the func_ mapjam packs has a similar concept, albeit used only in a small section; does this mapset have custom code or is it vanilla id1 other than the assets? I haven't downloaded it yet.

Hey, any advice involving post
>>4230594?

>>4230696
This map made me thinking: is it possible to make a Quake mod inspired by Gravity Rush?

>>4230584
This, but how about TCs for Quake?

>>4230584
Hunter's Moon if you can withstand the lag

>>4230707
UAC Ultra is a regular wad, the guy wants Total Conversions.

>>4230382
>SMRPG
It would be more of a map pack than a mod. That game actually has levels that would make excellent Doom maps.

>Kero Sewers
>Forest Maze
>Booster Tower
>Sunken Ship
>Belome Temple
>Barrel Volcano
>Bower's Keep
>Smithy Factory

Maybe being able to equip Geno's gun-based weapons would be the mod weapons and Mario's mallet could be the melee weapon.

>>4230647
>>4230698
If you use the hex, from here:
>>/vr/thread/S3151932#p3152912
for readability:

const int LET_O = 0x4F;
const int LET_P = 0x50;
const int LET_S = 0x53;

"(LET_P << 24) + (LET_O << 16) + (LET_S << 8) + (LET_S)"

For readability on the base 36 since you can't just bitshift, you could use

const int 36_d2 = 36; // 36^1
const int 36_d3 = 1296; // 36^2
const int 36_d4 = 46656; // 36^3
const int 36_d5 = 1679616; // 36^4
const int 36_d6 = 8398080; // 36^5

const int LET_O = 25;
const int LET_P = 26;
const int LET_S = 27;

"(LET_P * 36_d4) + (LET_O * 36_d3) + (LET_S * 36_d2) + (LET_S)"

then you'd need to unpack either in acs, but do one function and you're set
of course, if you have only a couple of things and not a whole bunch you need to be passing, then it's gonna be much easier with just switches or arrays and passing the corresponding numbers. You can even use "const int" to increase readability on both ends.

If I want to give a rifle a bayonet, but the sprite graphic of the weapon in question wouldn't have a conventional bayonet visible from the perspective of the graphic, how would I best convey it?

Should I just try to work out an angled sprite for the reloading and stuff where you can see the bayonet mounted out on the end there? Or should I just put it on the pickup sprite and call it a day?

Anybody try out thevidya.site yet? How's the upload speed?

>>4230730
>Or should I just put it on the pickup sprite and call it a day?
I'd go with this. Show the bayonet on the pickup sprite and then just make an animation that looks like you are stabbing them with your barrel. It would be good enough.

t. lazy fuck

>>4230731
Been at work all day. Will attempt to upload something later.
Does it allow for dl descriptions, or do you have to just include a readme?

>>4230739
No way to describe the file right now, but uploading a text file for it should be soon. I'm at work also so give me a few hours. Should be a pretty quick feature to implement though.

>>4230736
Well I mean I figured the stabbing with barrel part, but if I should try to just put something together to make it more obvious when you're using it, so that you sometimes see it when you're handling it, like reloading or throwing a grenade.

How do you make stats that influence the power of weapons?

>>4230373
Why are they cyan?
Is this Kegan

Any advice on either getting a HIMEM.SYS and some virtual boot disk drive to work on DOSBOX?
Oh, and are there any working torrent sites you folks that might still have System Shock Portable?

>>4230745
Cool.

>>4230847
I have it at home. I can toss it at you later.

>>4230370
this is rad, couldn't respond last time you posted because of my VPN

>>4230847
I don't know about torrent sites, but I still got SSP on my hard drive. Downloaded it before the SSE was released on Steam.

>>4230847
Here you go http://dropmefiles.com/0mn7J

faggot beneath (300min)
---

the switch opposite the start position reveals a wide open blood lake, with little cover, and 23 sergeants and 6 revenant turrets. this would be manageable if you actually had some defence, but all there is, is the basic shotgun, 107% green armour, and one(!!) stimpack.

if you survive this and find all the buttons to get the red key you find - joy! - a second stimpack, then down a tunnel, the blue key and finally a second weapon, a chaingun. the key triggers a teleporter trap that spews even more sergeants, spectres, revenants, and the inevitable archvile, which is released out into the blood lake. better hope you found that secret rocket launcher, along with the third precious stimpack (except the lava is likely to negate its benefit).

the end of the map was not new to me, with an equivalent of the NIN secret that i'd helped to fix. with only a few hellknights/barons to fight, it was trivial in comparison to earlier areas. thus, the fourth stimpack was unnecessary.

i get that it is an E4M1 tribute/parody but i think it's just a little over the top. at least with Perfect Faggot, after a couple of deaths, i found a strategy and felt i had a chance. in comparison this map, with high enemy density, low weapon power, and almost total lack of defensive options/resources, feels unfair.

demo (first exit, about the 20th attempt, at a guess)
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=16289669931420842126

>>4230890

>>4230890
I actually used this as a test map for Babel since it was so hard on vanilla. I agree with what you said there, it feels like certain bits can almost get too intense, where you're relying more on luck and running like a madman than skill.

>>4230565
The Holy Water Pistol. One of the best doom weapons ever.

G.M.O.T.A or Bullet Eye?

>>4230990
the one that's actually had an update in the past two years

>>4230990
>Apples or Oranges?
GMOTA though.

>>4230696
This is CRAZY the amount of details put in this map, you have troubles to realize it actually runs on the IDTech 1.

>>4230373
Holy fucking shit, someone saved it.

>>4230841
Yes it was.

>tfw finishing up with a map you've been working on for a while
good feel, also started using custom textures today and it helped tremendously prettying up the areas that I wasn't too happy with the look of when using only vanilla textures.

Are there any really good vertical levels in doom? Maybe ones that make really good use of 3d floors?

>wanna play Doom 3 again but don't wanna bother with all the bullshit to get it running without glitches up the ass
>buy BFG edition
>runs super well
>however, notice that there's way more ammo and health than usual
>only time I managed to die was when I started toying with grenades
>removed the creepy ambiance from the admin office early in the game
>plasma gun sounds weaker
Just fucking why? Would've it been that hard to leave the difficulty level intact Veteran?

>>4230990
Bullet eye. For now at least, GMOTA's current playable verson just isn't that good.

Have you guys seen Away?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qScCZuiQPLA
Skip to 0:41

I know not Retro at all, I'm just curious, are there any ridiculously HD wads for Doom? Curious how it'd look, especially since caco is cute

>>4230943
Depends, can I refill it in the toilet?

>>4231109
>watch intro
>convinced it's going to be a boring turnbased JRPG
>skeleton bro team mate
>real time actiony combat
OH YES

>>4231116
Well seeing as you can dip the holy water pistol into dangerous slime and have it be purified into safe, drinkable holy water, I'd say yes.

>>4230890
>>4230906
I may tone down the shotgunners. Any other gameplay recommendations?

You can survive the initial onslaught a lot easier if you run to one corner of the blood pool and use one of the blocks as cover. I meant that to be the analogue for the alcove in e4m1, but it might not work.

>download Impossible: A New Reality to try it out
>read the text file
Worth it for the batshit probably-written-while-drinking backstory alone.

>>4231138
>batshit probably-written-while-drinking backstory
These are the best, especially when there's still a underlying thought and theme going on.

It's why I liked Morrowind's story and lore so much, Kirkbride wrote it up on whiskey and at least one carton of smokes, while already in a strange state of mind. He might also have fucked one of his bosses' daughter too (rumor says it was Todd Howard's daughter but I think that would be too good to be true.

i know that /vr/ has a hateboner towards hdmods but

theres a good weapon replacement mod for quake 2? the only good one that i could find was the SSG on Quakeone forums and the old one ripped from Generations arena is lost to the ages

Some updates on thevidya.site
>fixed files not uploading when larger than 8 MB (specifically Alien Vendetta)
>added an option for text files\
>copied sywtpsfd.png from desuarchive to the main site.

>>4230382
>Fallout 4

pls no hate

Fatman might be cool to see though

>>4231229
Fallout 4 Survival Mode is some of the most fun I've ever had with a shooter or open world game.

>>4231160
I heard he locked himself in his apartment with a shit ton of booze to write the 34 Vivec Sermons. I also love Morrowind, I wish Bethesda didn't collapse into what they are now.

what do you guys think about the HXRTC mod?

Also, why is KDiZD so hated here?

>>4231242
>what do you guys think about the HXRTC mod?
Can be a lot of fun but you often end up feeling like you're a walking wall of meat by a few levels in.
>Also, why is KDiZD so hated here?
Because it's shit?

Like most attempts to reinvent the original maps, it fails to get what really worked with them and instead drags each and every map out a stupid amount with long arse backtracking and vague as fuck map design.

>>4230593
>Golden Souls
Dark side of the moon is best level.

>>4231307
A+ opinion

But technically, they're all the best levels

>>4230943
Fun to use in Metadoom, pure garbage in DUMP 3.

>>4230990
Space Hunter.

>>4231086
Well seeing as you can't seem to get original Doom 3 running without fucking it up, if sounds like you needed those extras in Doom 3: Bumper Rails Edition,

>think I've lost the drive to do work again
>get a wild idea with some sprites
GONNA MAKE THAT GRAND PINGER

>>4231430
Like from Army of Two?

>>4230359

>>4230679
Put this shit in the news post 'cause it's mad whack, yo.

>>4231494
On a technical level this is the best Quake release ever. The fact that all of that shit was made using id1 progs is just mind boggling.

>>4231485
What? No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoBWUs8poYU

The classic kind, that you'd use for shooting at Nazis and Commies with. It'll hit hard, it'll have a pointy bayonet for stabbing (and grilling sausages), and if you shoot it empty you'll get a slightly faster reload than if you reloaded with rounds left in the magazine.

>>4230679
>>4230687
>>4231494
Doesn't look that amazing to me? Are Quake players just hungry for a change of scenery or something?

>>4231502
Aww. I liked that gun.
Do we seriously not have a fucking Garand for Doom?

>>4231512
I haven't seen one that I think is very good.

>>4231495
Yeah, I was amazed to find no progs.dat or anything in the zip, just a bunch of maps. Only been playing for a couple minutes but it's already impressive as hell- I'll admit I noclipped to the bridge just to see how big it was. Answer: really fucking big.

So far it's turning out to be the worst vacation ever.

>>4231506
I've only played the starting beach map so far but if you don't think that oriental palace looks like the hottest shit get out of my face.

Part of it is a chance of scenery, part of it is just being surprised by how fucking big these maps are and not crap. Most people don't care too much about maps looking fantastic in Quake, just acceptable- stuff like Arcane Dimensions has kind of spoiled people with its attention to detail, but really, anything on the level of id's original levels is good enough (and even those included texture misalignment and odd brush angles at times).

>>4231523
"How My Summer Vacation In San Francisco Was Ruined By Chainsaw-wielding Hillbillies From Another Dimension!" by Ranger

>>4231534
>>4231523
>>4231494
This gives me Duke Caribbean vibes.

>>4231536
Apparently the other maps are all over the place, just haven't gotten to 'em yet. When the author said it was nonlinear he wasn't kidding, I keep finding things that I thought are secrets but were apparently intentional (i.e. rooftop hopping using slope jumps).

Haven't found any bathrooms yet, though. Hoping to find a brush toilet.

>>4231534
Still better than DUSK!

>>4231547
Map 4 has some of the funniest hacks possible in id1. All of the maps are very impressive.

>>4231552
Just made it to map2, the spinning drills in the wall was great at the start. The oar at the end of map1 reminded me of my own experimenting with non-key 'pickups,' if he'd used the netname hack he could have had the 'You got the oar' message pop up in the top left like a normal item pickup. Eagerly waiting to see what hacks the other maps use.

>tfw bad at finding secrets
Thought they were maybe on the other islands only to find you can't actually swim to 'em and the bridge is just decor. Phooey.

>>4231590
I love how it looks like a Counter-Strike 1.6 map.

>>4231590
The far west map is hilarious. Usually you'd roll your eyes but the theme actually works obscenely well. It's just lacking Ogres with cowboy hats.

>>4231367
You're alright

>>4231523
Where would Doomguy take a much-needed vacation?

>>4231612
>saw the gravity shift ahead of time in the preview vids
>was expecting it to use teleports with sideways triggers, like one of the func_ jam maps
>it's just other copies of the room flipped around
Phooey!

>>4231638
Also for reasons beyond me I keep having some bug where I randomly start shooting and nothing will stop it other than restarting the game, not even opening the console and using -attack. Haven't changed my config files any from standard Quakespasm and I never had it there so no idea if it's a bug in the spike-admod version or what.

>>4231626
Probably somewhere demons wouldn't bother with. Maybe Detroit.

>>4231641
>check config file
>notice there's gamepad bindings in QS now by default
>>bind "RTRIGGER" "+attack"
>look across desk
>left my gamepad plugged in and it's sitting on its side, occasionally depressing the trigger enough to shoot

What mod(s) go well with colorful doom?

>>4231652
You can't see it in the screenshot but the whole outer part of this room is spinning and it's fucking eye-irritating and also awesome.

>>4230847
There should be no need for HIMEM.SYS device driver file, all that and more are built in DosBox itself.

>>4231676
what map

>>4231676
>next map, the oriental one
>most of the big-ness is from the makeshift skybox down below that's an instakill pit anyway
>first map (including all of Arcane Dimensions) to make me actually start dropping frames
>has fucking 2d Buddha and tree sprites like someone thought this was goddamn Doom
50fps on an i5 4670K and a GTX770, I feel sorry for anyone playing this on a more period-correct computer.

>>4231683
Third map in the Quake mapset linked earlier in the thread.

>>4231687
Er, second map, sorry.

>>4231693
On that note third map can be exited way early if you're good with air strafing and you can also get yourself stuck between the rooms and the walls of the first building, requiring you to either restart or noclip. Oops.

I'm trying to enjoy Hellcore but the maps are seriously so big that they actively take away from my enjoyment

Anyone know how to install Deathwish for Blood on the current GOG version?

I'm dying to play this mod but I can't figure it out, and there are no current guides that work either.

I would be eternally grateful.

>tfw keep going back to vanilla gameplay
Nothing else really compares.
Literally HOW did Carmack and Romero make such a timeless game?

>>4231128
>Any other gameplay recommendations?
give the player weapons equal to the task. Hell Beneath worked despite having only a shotgun because there was plenty of cover and only doom1 monsters to defeat.

lurking in the corner is all very well if there were only sergeants as the main threat - in the absence of cover distance is the best defense against sergeants, although still requires luck, but not so much of it as say chaingunners, who roll the dice far more often - but when there are also homing missile spamming towers, you can't stay lurking in the corner. so your strategy is flawed and the map again comes down to luck.

>>4231780

luck

>>4231824
Oh I meant behind the pillar things what block the rev balls. But I see your point.

>>4231425
You mean the "bodies don't flicker randomly and the gravity gun's distortion field doesn't flip the image vertically"-edition?

>>4231780
Simple but effective arcade action that can't really be affected by time

>>4231780
they didn't. they made a game that was mind-blowing on first impression. this gave a huge initial surge of fans, but like all things the novelty wore off and the majority of them moved on.

what made it timeless is that they released the game in a form that allowed the community to perfect it. first by enabling easy replacement of maps, and then at the end of its shelf-life, by releasing the entire game source for the remaining community (who were by that point highly invested in the game, having spent 3+ years on it) the freedom to modify and extend it as they saw fit.

what i'm saying is, i don't think it would be so timeless if all you had were the 36 maps of ultimate doom and the 32 of doom2. it would now only be being played by nostalgia-hunters.

>>4231780
Orthogonal unit differentiation.

This guy goes into it in detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEF4GVNzkUw

Essentially each enemy gives a distinct and recognizable threat and when you combine different types and give the player the ability to choose position, target and weapon, suddenly you get a very organic combat that can be handled a variety of ways at any time and has huge gameplay potential.

You let the player make split second decisions constantly and it has an outcome on how well they do. This is pure gameplay at its finest

>>4231307
>>4231315
That Donkey Kong Country one is amazing too, but yeah they're all great

>>4230593
>>4231307
>>4231872
>tfw want to play through golden souls but can't stand those weapons

>>4231896
I used a personal edit to change them back to the normal ones.

>>4230357
>playing quake
>finish the level
>disturbing ambience switches to upbeat synth-metal tune.
>stay on the screen for a bit enjoying the music
>it dies down and you can hear the distant screams of tormented souls that were in the background all along

>>4231626
The Shores of Hell?

>>4231847
It plays still better than any other shooter. They got the core loop right. And I guess it was pure luck since Quake was nowhere near as good.

>>4230706
>>4230584
Whilst Strange Aeons isn't a total conversion, combine it with High Noon Drifter and you've got something really amazing.

>>4231938
>And I guess it was pure luck since Quake was nowhere near as good.
I'm not awake enough to argue with you.

I tried experimenting a bit with slopes and such.
Still doesn't look that great but eh, what can you do.

>>4231626
Hmm
How about like a Resort Beach for old retired demons
But them being old doesn't mean that they're weak and frail
Just that they're really old and tired
So they have a Resort where they rest and have fun
And so Doomguy came there to kill oldest demons in hell
Resort itself is in hell, obviously, with beautiful orange/red sky, orange/gray sandy beaches and red water.

>>4231938
Quake is great in its own, different way. Both are excelent shooters that play very differently.

>>4230382
>empire earth

kek

>>4231938
and then there's this asshole

>>4231945
ok this looks a bit more natural

How do I learn all the intricacies of decorate?
I want to make an RPGish WAD, is zdoom wiki good enough to go well beyond the usual and possibly make a whole "new" game in doom builder?

>>4230382
Id love an open world saints row mod for doom

>>4230382
>quake
Uhhhh....

>>4232010
hours of practice and experimentation, same way you learn anything else

>>4230943
completely forgot about that

Frankenspriting is a bitch.

Playing through Plutonia for the first time, it's cheeky as fuck. A Mastermind not even 6 maps in? The absolute madmen goddamn. First impression of the first 5 maps is that Plootie has much better design than TNT, but we'll see if that holds up.

>>4232081
>THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL

Wish metadoom had a pistolstart option, right now if you try and pistol start the points reset each map and you don't get to see any evolution in enemies and new weapons

first try demo contest #17 will begin in a little over half an hour. the wad (in encrypted zip) has already been uploaded. the password will be released at 14:00 UTC.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95745-first-try-demo-contest-17-september-2-1400-utc/#comment-1792330

just in case anyone here feels like giving it a go. you will need to record in prboom-plus with -complevel 4 -iwad plutonia and intercept overflows turned off.


-quote-
Passworded ZIP file containing WAD file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8uttx62y8l86n3b/fdcm19.zip?dl=0
Bat files:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jymaek1k7havyi/bats.zip?dl=0

Replace NICKNAME in bat files to your nick before start.
longtics-bat are for those who prefer playing with longtics.

Password will be revealed at 14:00 UTC (prepare your archiver for unpacking, 7-Zip and WinRAR are recommended)

Don't forget to turn off Intercepts Overflow emulation (Options-General-5 pages right)

Upload your demos to http://fdc.iddqd.ru (Adobe Flash Player required) or via PM
Remember, you have only 4 minutes extra for uploading (so prepare a browser tab before contest starts)
-endquote-

>>4232104
Isn't there an option to turn off "more enemies/weapons"?
I think there is

>>4232112
I think what he wants is to have his weapons stripped, but still have the new monsters and weapons spawn.

>>4232113
Maybe tell Kinsie about that, if he goes back to MetaDoom for a bit

>>4231242
>KDiZD
It's over-designed.

It looks awesome and it seems cool and immersive at first but really it's just bloated. Levels have very little flow and if you get distracted for a second, you'll probably lose your way and end up wandering around an empty maze for 10 minutes trying to work out where the hell to go next.

>>4232124
It feels like it misses the pint of Doom's level deisgn and starts to have the "open world problem".

>>4232104
>>4232113
Alternate weapon spawns are triggered by what weapons the player(s) already have when the map starts, so there's not really much of a point on that level.

Monsters, I can see the point, but I'm kind of loathe to build my own pistol start solution again after the headaches that went into adding it to Samsara for like, one guy. That was a pretty eccentric codebase, though, so I don't want to completely rule it out...

>>4232115
MetaDoom will (probably, briefly) spring back to life once the Codex stuff is finished, but the guy doing that is working on a shitload of other things that are way cooler/more interesting on one level or another, so I wouldn't hold your breath.

>>4232138
You mean DrPySpy?
I wonder how Doom Delta is going

>>4232148
last post on the thread was 3 days ago by him
so probably not dead

>>4232152
Iirc i read slmehwere that a new update is soon to be released

>>4231626
How about the Stargate resort?

Are there any wads, with maps made to look like colorful cities?
Think of something like Sonic Adventure, Ape Escape, Jet Set Radio, Splatoon and a lot of other japanese games, with comfy and neat looking cities.
Something that looks like it could also work as a Street Fighter stage.

>>4230629
I didn't laugh.

COMIN ATCHA
> SHUB SLAYER
WHEN YOUR TWENTY FEET TALL AND THROWING LIGHTNING, THEN YOU CAN FACE ME

>>4232196
MAKIN' MOMMA PROUD

>When you communicate your position with other players in Q1 co-op using only jump sounds

>wanna map for HUMP
>wanted to use first week for planning
>work didn't let me really
>whenever I try to com up with ideas it leads to massive mapping block

This is hell.

>>4232196
>a deathmatch mode where you only telefrag people via high speed projected teleport location
This is what I now want.

Why is Thy Flesh Consumed such a clusterfuck of an episode? The maps range from ingenious, to complete clunkers, and there's no sense of progression or consistency, other than the yellow sky-box and dull colors.

To satiate my autism, here are the maps ranked.

>1st: M6: Against Thee Wickedly
Absolutely brilliant map, with the most well-placed Cyberdemon in all of classic DOOM. Brilliant architecture. Complex and open-ended, yet great sense of direction. Could use some more rad suits in the beginning though.

>Tied 2nd: M2: Perfect Hatred
Brutally unforgiving for the uninitiated, but very clever. Copious ways to approach the different encounters, making for high replayability.

>Tied 2nd: M7: And Hell Followed
Very easy, but very satisfying. A nicely laid out maze, with a diverse range of encounters. Great sense of direction and progression.

>4th: M8: Unto The Cruel
A bit unorganized, but the layout is interesting. The encounters are enjoyable, and the direction is solid.

>Tied 5th: M1: Hell Beneath
Notoriously difficult. The strict limitation of resources necessitates strategy and execution, but the teleporting sergeants feel cheap. Why is this the first map?

>Tied 5th: M3: Sever The Wicked
Enjoyable enough, but a clusterfuck of design. Unappealing aesthetics and bizarre secrets. Enemy placement feels random.

>7th: M4: Unruly Evil
It's over already? OK, I guess.

>8th: M9: Fear
Most of the map can be completely skipped, and the symmetrical architecture makes it all painfully predicable. No real sense of progression, and uninspired encounters.

>9th: M5: They Will Repent
This map just drags on and on. Samey rooms with uninspired encounters. Nothing really stands out. Snore!

>>4232196
Beautiful.

Somewhat related, but what other mods let me teleport around the map with the press of a button?

>>4232247
just do it anon I believe in you
think of a scene in a movie or other media
base it off an existing map, but from memory not looking at the map
even a non heretic movie
think of a real place, or a map from another game
the idea is once you start with this you can go from there

>>4230357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0IpNxqt34s

Anyone hyped for DOOM X Diablo crossover?

>>4232269
>Both of Romero's maps are at the top
How did the madman do it?

>>4232289
Is it Diablo in Doom, or Doom in Diablo?

>>4232304
Looks like Doom in Diablo 2.

>>4230357
What resort would Quake 1 Ranger like to book and stay at for a while soon after breaking out of his dimension-hop trap that he's been in for 20 Earth years?

holy shit the wizard at the end of the third episode of heretic is tough as fuck

>>4232269
>yellow

>>4232283
Thanks mate. I do have an idea: a Sidhe Bathhouse.

Maybe I can get a layout working tomorrow.

>>4232318
none

as is typical of dealing with lovecraftian horrors, fighting the forces of quake has left its mark on him. wherever he goes, he feels like an interloper, constantly on edge, always expecting something to grab at him from around the corner and tear him to shreds. he hears whispers that aren't there, he feels the world shifting and warping as he tries to sleep, and he only feels comfortable with other veterans of the slipgate wars; everyone else feels hopelessly distant, and trying to relate to them feels like trying to reclaim a childhood innocence that has long since been smothered to death in its sleep.

eventually he gives up and retires to the countryside, and no one hears from him again, aside from the odd gunshot or explosion heard echoing from his home.

>>4232289
if they add DOOMRL features, I will not stop cumming

>>4232269
>Why is Thy Flesh Consumed such a clusterfuck of an episode?
because id software never really gave a shit about it. their publisher demanded a repackaged version of Doom 1 to sell in stores and so they threw together a grab bag of a new episode as a sop to make it seem like a "new" product

>>4232106
That's a good map. Despite possibly getting qualified as slaughterfest map, there's a lot of health items and ammo to keep player alive and kicking ass, so if player is just a little bit careful the victory is pretty much guaranteed.

>>4232446
actually, someone tell him to check DOOMRL out. dude may get some inspiration of what to do next

>>4230382
I mean. Last game I played is Duke Nukem Manhattan Project.
So a 2.5D sidescrolling run'n'gun? That could work well.
Anyway, there were 2.5D platformer mods before like Pogostick or Donkey Kong Country, so it definitely can be done.

Camera would be a preset chasecam at a 90 degree angle, to give a 2.5D sidescroller look - if I could position Duke at around 1/3 of the screen, and make camera move right and left as charater faces there, that'd be great.

Controls would be changed to disable turning or walking forward, Strafe Left and Strafe Right would be changed to make you turn either left or right and go forward. There would also be duck and jump (using GZDoom's features), a kick button (using a special button just for this mod), and kicking when running would perform a slidekick - just like in Manhattan Project.

Because entire game is Duke themed, I think the easiest way would be to simply rip sprites and textures from Duke Nukem 3D. When shown from the side, I think they'd work perfectly with a sidescroller.

Enemies I think would be simply Duke 3D enemies, with AI changed to work on a 2D plane of a sidescroller.


Because it's a platformer, just like MP, you'd have to collect 7 "Nuke" collectibles in each stage (represented by green-tinted Atomic Health icons) and babes you can rescue (represented by the slimed babes).

Because it'd be a TC, it'd need a new levels, and I think it'd be neat to loosely adapt Duke3D levels into sidescroller levels. Placement of powerups and secrets would be a similar, it's just everything would be flattened into one, sidescrolling plane, and with added more platforming challenges like moving platforms, death pits, death spikes, flame vents turning on and off - and so on.

>>4231832
>>4231128
>>4231824
>>4230890
>>4230906
Here is toned down version:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/rv9v7p1l2q2hh89/faggotbeneath_2.wad

>>4232493
Also for 300m manager, since that one dude didn't want to release under his name with me being FAGGOT just credit me as scroton instead, solve all the problems.

>>4232497
Or maybe that dude can just not be such a faggot.

>>4230357
How many of you run Doom at 120hz+120fps or greater? Is it niiiiice?

How many of you are at 75hz monitors or less?

>>4232497
>scroton
fucking hell dude it's been a while
welcome back, fag

>>4232497
>scroton
You're still alive! Welcome back, bundle of sticks!

>>4232497
i don't believe this for a moment. scroton isn't so much of a noob that he'd need someone else to debug a floor transfer linedef.

>>4232534
>>4232558
Yeah been busy, the 'busy for next 4 months' turned into over a year
>>4232569
I am that noob. It was some weird thing that I've never encountered before:
>>/vr/thread/S4190907#p4194627
>okay so basically that's a floor transfer linedef using the so called "numeric model" to select the source sector which the properties are copied from. and due to however you've got it set up, it's using a bad sector reference as the source, and copying rubbish into the target sector.
>it depends on which is the lowest linedef number surrounding the sector, and in your case most likely the lowest numbered sector doesn't have a back sidedef, so it's reading random rubbish out of memory.
>okay i fixed the transfer by exchanging lines 879 and 903, so the lowest numbered linedef surrounding the symbol sector 168 is now also part of the height and texture control sector 172.
Thank god for the vanilla Doom wizard that has been posting demos of everything in 300m!

>>4232602
could be a cacodemon without the second eye

>>4232594
one of the occupational hazards (or perhaps pleasures) of anonymous posting is the occasional instance of having your own posts quoted back in reply to you. thanks for the compliment. being called a wizard by the guy who does lightning weapons that strike multiple targets by following bezier curves in ACS is praise indeed.

What happened to Doom world? Why can't I download wads from there anymore? Only place now is "wad archive" but it needs you to log in is this some sort of "bot net" you crazy kids call it

I GOT LOVE IN MY HEART AND A BFG IN MY HANDS, POST SCREENSHOTS BECAUSE IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! MAPS SPRITES TEXTURES CODE OR EVEN SOME CRAZY E-ZINE WAD LAUNCHER

>>4232654
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

works for me.

>>4232658
The bottom area is obviously a WIP, but I'm finally making more progress.

Should be done in 5 years at this rate.

>>4232658
Still doing lots of minor tweaks and touchups. Added an option to disable all bullet tracers entirely, which makes human projectiles invisible, just in case somebody wants that. Gotta restart the TITLEMAP again, or maybe just rework the current one, so it doesn't have missing textures in Ultimate Doom. I'll get around to it eventually. Very close to being finished, I'm just super autistic about playtesting to make sure there are no bugs or issues.

I once thought of a weapon with two fire modes, that were just a rail gun and a grenade launcher from Shadow Warrior.
It's a bad idea and i'm not even a modder.

They don't care about my one-way mirror
Well, they're not frightened by my cold exterior

>>4232658
I made chainsaw contain some ammo and gave it +ALWAYSPICKUP. Also added memes.
There was supposed to be actual gameplay changes, but I'm too lazy for this.

>>4232685
huh i was going to say >>4232674 looked like Corridor In Generic Anime High School Except Its Blue For Some Reason but here we are.

wuh

>>4232679
One of the worst framed screenshots I've ever seen.

>>4232694
explain

>>4232658
HUMP map never ever.

huh

>>4232658
finally getting towards finishing up with my first map dot wad

might start working on a few more after its done and make it into a small 4 map pack or something, first need to finish this one and get feedback on whats shit though.

explain

>>4232692
>>4232685
>>4232679
>>4232674
Nambona please go

>>4232707
terryshit

>>4232707
I was hoping you would

>>4232707
I-is that one of the characters from Azumanga Daoih?

>>4232665
pic from that center circle

>>4232718
>He forgot about Osaka

Shamefur dispray.

>>4232639
Oh shit! Well thanks for all the demos and the feedback and help then!

Osaka is my greatest Ally.

>>4232698
rule of thirds
filter applied to the background fucks with the focus in the fore

Was I supposed to find a shotgun or something, or is all of Hellcore going to be this insanely hard encounters?

what refresh rate is your monitor /vr/oom? please respond

>man up and try Plutonia
>fucking Archvile in the first map
>I'm only playing on HMP
I don't feel bad for using saves here. Not in the slightest.

>>4232759
You should have a shotgun by that point, yes.

>>4232770
108op 60hz pleb here. Want to find an old CRT or upgrade to 1440p 144hz.

>>4232779
guess i'm dumb then

>>4232770
I dunno, it says 1920x1200-60Hz, but it's not a CRT so i think apples/oranges applies doesn't it?

>>4232658
space needed

>>4232795
wow nice. bit gloomy but love that stargate feel

>>4232770
WHO WAS IIINNN THE WROOONG HEEEERE?

>>4232770
60hz 1920 1080 trash

are there any stealth/metal gear solid like maps/mods out there?

>>4232812
In The Shadows for Quake is a really good stealth mod. Sadly incomplete, but well worth it.

Is there a 100% vanilla trick to push the player into something right at the start? Say I want to teleport them immediately?

>>4232269
>Why is Thy Flesh Consumed such a clusterfuck of an episode?
No Sandy maps.

>>4232772
I got to level 6 now without saving in levels.

Hope you like chaingunner ambushes!

>>4232834
crusher onto exploding barrel, if you dont want health loss then put some health bonuses there

>>4232685
man oingo boingo is such an excellent band

>>4232845
yeah i can't think of anything better than this, if you want the explosion to happen faster i suppose you could make an object call A_Explode in a loop with dehacked, but i wouldn't recommend it

>>4232845
>>4232848
hmmm.. thanks. i'll try it
out.

>>4232842
I'm on map 5, but again, I don't really feel bad for saving in this mapset/iwad. Most of the ambushes seem designed to fuck you up first time, like the one in the second or third map where you're in a tiny room, pick up a red key then suddenly get two chaingunners, a Baron and an Archvile all storm in from opposite directions.

>>4232851
check sector 15 in epic2 map06.
eternal has basically perfected the technique.

>>4232857
also map31 for an example of how to trigger two lines at once with a voodoo doll. basically voodoo doll scripts in vanilla without conveyor floors. it will save you having to work out exactly how far all the things have to be apart from each other.

>Both Wolfenstein 3D and Quake had 2 guns that shoot bullets/nails continuously, but at different speeds
>Doom had a chaingun that shoots bullets continuously. while looking like a mix of both a chaingun and machinegun
>Quake 2 had a machine gun, that was kinda like Doom's chaingun, while the actual chaingun shoots faster, but before it, it starts spinning its barrel

Is it me or do most games base their machineguns and chainguns around Q2, which can be seen in games like TF2 and Doom 4?
I feel like there was something going on at whether or not these weapons were meant to be different and how they'd work individually, so at some point there was one ideology about it that eventually stayed.

>>4232892
It's a dumb post, but this was something that i was thinking about for a while.

>>4232658
Mmapping with my clone... Nothing to show really.

>>4230731
Seems to work well enough. Wish I had saved all the anon-made maps over the last 3 years. Would be a nice place to have them stored.

>>4232892
quake 2's chaingun and hyperblaster are absolutely awful

if you stop firing it takes a full second before you can fire again

>>4232908
Slime Trails: The Level

Now THIS is nostalgia

>>4232686
How did you edit the menu?
Or is this another person's wad?

>>4232960
That would be aaliens.wad.
Go play it.

>>4232781
>>4232785
>>4232804
do you guys get screen tearing when you go over 60fps?

>>4233023
Nope, I'm running at 200fps almost constantly with no tearing

>>4233023
Yeah. I hardly notice it though.

>>4233023
i do, for some reason it's only noticable on textures with vertical stripes though. like the light here. startan next to it looks fine as i turn back and forth. it goes away if i turn on the option that sets SDL_RENDERER_PRESENTVSYNC but i don't notice the tearing much so i generally don't bother, especially since with it -timedemo is limited to 60fps.

>>4232081
>agressive honking

strogg for corrupted grunt q1 followers of shub niggurath when

>>4233026
How come some 60hz screens get screen tearing when you go over 60fps while others don't?

Like on one 60hz laptop screen I had there was no tear at 200fps, on another 60hz screen the screentearing would be awful over 60fps.

>>4233119
*no v sync enabled with either

Why do school shooting maps always suck?

>>4233131
They underestimate the width of halls leading to super cramped hallways. Plus, schools are just generally boring maps.

>>4233137
>schools are just generally boring maps
Care to be thorough?

>>4233139
I mean boring places in general. Every school looks the same and are usually the same copy pasted corridors between all of them, and all of the interesting places are cramped small places.

>>4233131
columbine simulator always have you blast imps with the ssg & that's no fun right?

>>4233145
Do you think that's the fault of the layout, or the encounters that the developers set up? If the interesting places are cramped small places, like class rooms, is that where most of the action is happening?

>>4232084
doom 2 has a mastermind in the sixth map

>>4232269
>faggot spaces

>>4233139
It's the problem in general that many real life structures and locations just don't make for good action or exploration because they're not designed to be videogame levels, they're designed to be practical.

You need to change things to make it good, like put a surrealist or abstract spin on it, or make it a destroyed building, or infested building.
At any rate you'd end up wanting to create artificial barriers and elements which wouldn't normally be there IRL, otherwise, what you have is just long hallways lined with square rooms.

An example is from Fallout 3, not the best game, in fact it's strongly flawed in many aspects, but anyway, once you exit Vault 101, you can find an old bombed out pre-war highschool not far from there, inhabited by generic wasteland thugs, floors are collapsed, furniture is moved and knocked over to create features and barriers, and in the basement, mutated radioactive ants have tunneled into there, fighting the thugs and causing havoc, you can reach into at least part of their cavern where you can fight them and loot their piles of garbage for possibly useful items (there is at least one assault rifle and one skill book there).

So what you have is a school building, but it's turned into a videogame dungeon by various changes and additions. Unnecessary rooms are blocked off or deleted, debris and moved furniture line the hallways and take up place in rooms to make for features and barricades, and a small cavern can be reached through the basement. There's items to scavenge and there are enemies to encounter. You could try to be sneaky to try to take out the thugs while they wander, or you could just outright assault the place and get into straight firefights.

Another route you can do is to just Duke Nukem it, make it look visually like real life buildings in many ways but then also make abstract constructs and connections among it (as well as not add lots of uninteresting or featureless rooms).

>>4233131
because a lot of them focus on being omg edgy instead of fun with a fun layout

>>4233215
That too, there's like Grezzo 2 and that faggot schoolshooter fangirl shit.

They're not that good.

>>4233205
Let's say this wasn't Doom, Let's say you move, shoot, and take damage like a high school student. Teachers usually have guns under their desks, and students are taught to throw textbooks and staplers. Walking into a darked out class room with an army standing in the corner sounds like a fun scenario, right? But you claim otherwise. It's not like the class would just be in the middle of lecture with desks in lines, they'd probably fortify a corner and then you just have to stand there and shoot them or wait for them to try and run.
Whose to say you walk in a science lab and the teacher starts throwing chemical grenades at you? I think Doom is the incompatability here. A school can be interesting, you just have to think outside of the box and creatively.

>>4230382
>NFS Carbon Own The City
i dont think that could work

with Elton John

>>4232686
>Quake icon in the stone texture
kinda makes you HUEURGHH

i just discovered the world of complex doom

wtf are all these bizarre legendary monsters and 2stepsfromhell background tracks
the gameplay is actually solid, not sure why i wasnt aware of its existence until now

rise

>>4232942
The spin down time for the chaingun is necessary so as not to make it too OP, especially with the machine gun around. Other than that, it's one of the most satisfying gatling guns in vidya.

Agreed with the hyperblaster, though. Still, the armor piercing bonus was neat in multiplayer.

>>4233415
Because it's kind of dated and weird (specially reloading)

The legendary addon adds some good stuff and some fucking retarded stuff like zombieguys that practically one shot you and move at the speed of light.

CHICKEN ARISE

>>4233429

>>4233429
>>4233450
I'D BUY THAT WAD FOR A DOLLAR.

>>4233450

Any good Star Trek themed WADs?

>>4232908
what wad this looks sick!

>>4232942
>>4233427
You know, I get a feeling that starting with Doom, they kept trying to find this sweet spot for full auto projectile weapons.

Quake
>let's improve the Doom plasma rifle by removing the cooldown time and improving projectile speed, but shit maybe that would make it too powerful so let's better nerf the fire rate and increase ammo consumption
Quake 2
>okay, perhaps we should make it a bit more powerful and decrease ammo consumption, but shit we don't want the weapon to be too OP so let's give it a crazy spindown time!

It wasn't until Quake 3 when they realized that automatic projectile weapons were hard enough to use already, and needed just buffs with no weird nerfs to go with them.

>>4233508
I really want the Q1 nail and super nailgun but I don't use them ever in QC

>>4233503
That is REKKR, anon. Its a WIP at the moment (although in later stages of development)
Keep your eyes out for it when it gets released...

>>4233234
There's a spoiler wing cosmetic in Quake Champions so we're heading there

Also Quake Rally

>>4233534
they're hidden OP. spam it on tight corridors and enemy gamers will suddenly start over at the other side of the map without their weapons.

>>4233546
>enemy gamers
Ubisoft?

>>4233546
You make it sound so easy for nails to land

>>4233450
>map that has a smaller map inside it

>>4233561
they're deadly at point blank though.

>>4233450

>>4233581
well at least it's not loss

>>4233575
Unfortunately there's no time for me to swap at the last second when they're up in my face and probably circle strafing anyway

>>4233595
Isn't weapon switching in Q1 like instant?

>>4233575
Wouldn't a shotty be easier and simpler then?

>>4233602
But Quake Champions...

>>4233602
Yes but he's talking about Q:C, which uses vanilla Q3A style weapon switching, that being you can't change weapons for a second after firing your current gun, so no instant LG-to-rail combos like you see in all those CPMA frag videos.

>>4233450
>>4233460
http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/component/content/article?id=318:mapping-the-art-of-high-detail

guys

>https://kamijou420.deviantart.com/art/Quake-Champions-Classic-DOOM-GUY-For-HUD-701695608

>>4233612
the ssg has a hefty delay between shots
if you miss, you're kinda screwed
and the SNG has higher dps

>>4233708
it's weird how they managed to make the mug look so similar to og doomguy, but also have this uncanny resemblance to bj from wolf3d at the same time.

maybe it's the mouth corners, the eyes should be a bit more noticeable as well.

>>4233708
>>4233725
he looks angrier than og doomguy for one
the original sprite had this constant focus glare which made him seem wary of his surroundings, which makes sense considering he's in the heist of a literal demon invasion

he needs to cool that frown a bit, right now he looks fucking soulless. it's funny how ranger and bj come off as infinitely more calm and collected than doomguy when it should be the other way around

>>4230382

>sw shadows of the empire

I think is doable

>>4230382
>melty blood Actress again current code
but
why
Anime is terrible grounds for doom

>>4230382
>Quake
So... ZDoom?

can I submit a map for the 300 MINUTES OF /vr/ yet?, I'm looking at the doom builder tutorials on the site...

So I just started up playing Zdoom again after a long break, the 2 wads that really impressed me are Putrifier & Breach. Can anons suggest other wads with similarly complex architecture?

>>4234013
What am I looking at?

>>4233981
Yup. Do it!

>>4234016
blurry rebel

I call it, "Reply Pyramid Doom"

>>4234032
How much longer must this madness continue?

>>4233981
Of course, we still need 3 or 4 maps I believe. Feel free to ask in here if you ever get stuck and make sure you have GZDoombuilder!

>>4234017
>>4234046

I have GZDoom Builder BugFix R2989..

Doom with Doom 2 format...

>>4234051
Sounds good, any idea for themes or setpieces?

>>4234061

I have absolutely no idea what I'm gonna do...

>>4232946
Looks more like a sector bleeding.

>>4234068
Same thing m8.

>>4234067
The easiest way to get inspiration is to just play doom

This guy is becoming a fucking mech warrior mech.

>>4234116
>When you realize there's actually a pain elemental in its head piloting the thing

>>4234148
>tfw you realize the cyberdemon and pain elemental have the same horns
WHAT THE FUCK

>invisibility melon

>>4234157
lol never realised

PE is constructed from all bits of other things though, its eye is a partial invisibility, its entire body is a recoloured cacodemon. its mouth is i think the unused "blob" monster (see tcrf). the arms are probably from something else as well. it's a chimera

Is Duke Nukem World Tour worth buying? Are the levels any good?

When did you get into doom and what would be your dream PC to play it back in 95?

>>4234197
>giving shitbox money

>>4234197
From what I hear the levels are alright, but not worth shelling out $20 for if you already have DN3D in some format or another, on top of the fact that Gearbox are a bunch of money-grubbing fucks.

>>4234206
how come no-one's shopped that to say "FAG ASS"

>>4234197
The developer commentary was kind of nice, Randy's douche personality doesn't shine through too much, but it's not in a lot of levels, and often limited. Sometimes it's pretty hard to hear too, with them mumbling and some
The new lighting is actually really pretty, they have lightmapped all the old textures, in their original low resolution glory, which actually looks incredibly good with the colorful shine and flicker of fire and explosions.
It doesn't have Duke It Out In D.C or Duke Caribbean, which I was told it would. I haven't played the new episode yet.

Overall, I felt that Megaton Edition had way better controls, as well as better sound. It also had all the expansions.
For some reason, the sound is incredibly noticeably uneven, the sounds of the pistol sounds very muffled and odd, some of Duke's lines (if you have Legacy Duke Talk on) sound different in quality, while things like the shotgun and ripper chaingun sound normal.
It never did any of this with the original .exe on PC or Megaton Edition on my PS3.

>>4234197
the levels are good
they're not $20 good
they're definitely not "removing everything else" good

>>4234232
Just for you, anon. Maybe someone else can make a more cleaner version.

>>4234262
i love you

is "200mins of going down" just a coincidental name? i dont see much resemblance to Going Down

What are the mods to make Daikatana fun (or at least bearable) and wher can I get them?
Moddb has fuckall.

>>4234262
heh thanks

>become extremely in the mood to continue my map project
>open doom builder
>look at map and lose all interest instantly

This happens more often than I like to admit.

>>4234271
its the elevator drops

>>4234271
It's 200 mins of sucking cock.

>>4232892
Is anyone else irrationally annoyed by that single barrel that points out of the chaingun? I think some mods like smooth doom fixes it but I don't get it at all. Was it a glitch or mistake?? Please discuss

>>4234271
>>4234326
The thing that made Going Down good was the elevator start/finish and the set floorspace.

>>4234285
Anyone?

>>4234384
There's this, it's over-exaggerated as all hell but you get the idea

>>4234116
One more piece of robot shit

>>4232081
>>4234116
>>4234427
>same cyberdemon you fight multiple times through a campaign
>each time he gets more cyber and more demon

>>4234326
i figured it was that, along with gstone/marble/blood theme, and placement of groups of high-tier demons that required some strategizing but wasn't impossible like a modern slaughterfest map on UV

>>4234427
THONK

>>4234459
This is for GMOTA, it's gonna be called the Cybermancer and I'm going all out with making him a laser shooting robot bastard