/vr/ - Retro Games

Penis fart

are all sony wega model quality better than the competition? in this case pic related is a KV-27fs100.

when the screen look faded like this, is this a bad sign? i seen some that's are pitch black, clean and really reflective.

will i ever get a qt white gf?

>>4217457
>are all sony wega model quality better than the competition? in this case pic related is a KV-27fs100.
Yes because Sony CRTVs have aperture grille tech instead of shadow mask tech which causes them to show more detail such that Sony S-video is nearly as sharp as other brand component.
Quality ranking goes Sony>Panasonic,JVC,Mitsubishi, Sharp, Toshiba>everything else>Funai.

>when the screen look faded like this, is this a bad sign? i seen some that's are pitch black, clean and really reflective.
All CRT screens are gray like that. If you see them darker or lighter it's because of the lighting in the craigslist photo.

>will i ever get a qt white gf?
Depends how tall are you.

I have this Philips LTC 2919/90, it seems to be their equivalent to the Sony PVM line. Not many people seem to have these (no one else that I've found in gaming circles). I will post a few pictures.

It doesn't do RGB or Component, but does support S-Video. All of the Composite inputs use BNC connectors.

The audio is shitty mono sound, so I bought this set of Logitech speakers with an external sub. Probably not ideal, but it's more than enough for my desktop setup.

I have a Philips LTC 2919/90, it seems to be their equivalent to the Sony PVM. It doesn't support RGB or Component, but does do S-Video. All of the Composite inputs use BNC connectors.

The sound is just a shitty mono speaker, so I bought these Logitech speakers the other day with an external sub. Probably not ideal, but it's more than enough for my desktop setup.

It seems fairly uncommon, as I haven't seen anyone else use one for gaming. I will post a few pictures.

>>4217593

2/3

>>4217593
>>4217596

3/3

Something is wrong with my Toshiba curved CRT.

The image is shimmering heavily. It is especially noticeable on large areas of flat colour. It looks kind of like composite dot crawl but it fills whole objects not just the perimeter and even shows on S-video.
There is also color banding like the Sega Genesis except it is horizontal instead of vertical and these rainbows display strongly on bright whites and yellows instead of dull grays.

These problems are especially noticeable in 480i games.
All menu settings are set to medium/default.

What caused this and how do I fix it?

>>4217318
Damn that looks good. Anyone have an example of Slot Mask?

>>4217742

>>4217742
And something a bit more straight on.

~500TVL Ikegami TM14-17R for both.

Finally got my Panasonic bt-h1390y display but the bottom of the screen was pushed inward a little.

I took a suction cup and pulled it back to the frame which worked but should I open it and try to fix it internally?

Hey CRT, I think you guys would be a good group to ask this question.

What is the BEST video image I can possibly buy for under $300?

A couple of points to add to the question.
1. I don't care about resolution.
2. I don't care about screen size.

So if it is a 9" 480i Sony BVM I'm fine with that.

>>4218007
You should be able to get a 14" pvm for that much locally on craigslist. It's the shipping that kills most deals.

>>4218017
But wouldn't a BVM be better than a PVM?

>>4218047
Depends on how many lines you like. 600-700 is the sweet spot for me.

>>4218007
It's stupid faggots like this who are ruining the CRT market btw. "I'm willing to spend an inflated price on something I did minimal research on and have no strong preference on, because CRTs are trendy for Retro Gamers like myself"

Just got a 26 WEGA, it has component and s-video and it looks great, only problem is te right top corner wich looks odd.

>>4218185
It also leaks some colors when the screen is entirely black.

>>4218078
I want as many lines as gets the very best picture for video. I am not interested in using it specifically for video games.

>>4218182
>something I did minimal research on

>this question is literally the research you are referring to

also: I know more about CRTs than you, but phrased my question open ended because I do not want to lead the suggestions other than I am leaning towards BVM because the contrast ratio and color should be unmatched by anything short of OLED.

There are also medical grade LCD monitors like the the Sony LMD series which are in the mix.

That enough research for you, faggot?

kys

>>4218185
CRTs have weaker focus in the corners, it's normal.

>>4218185
>>4218186
Does it change with the orientation of the set?

>>4217545
>Yes because Sony CRTVs have aperture grille tech instead of shadow mask tech which causes them to show more detail such that Sony S-video is nearly as sharp as other brand component.
Pretty much irrelevant when you are playing games with less than 300 lines of resolution. You're not going to see any more detail from one brand you've listed there to another. What you will get is bolder colors and a more luminous screen (emits more light) with an aperture grille. For me it is very overrated and I like the subtle blending effect of dot triad screens compared to the razor sharp MS Paint look you get with a PVM/BVM when playing some old games.

>>4217593
>700 line monitor
It's pretty much like playing on an old CRT PC monitor, but without the benefit of RGB. Still, it's probably very nice built and good to have around for when you want to use real hardware and the old composite cable.

>>4218186
>>4218185
Looks like a vertical hold issue. The image has rolled slightly.

>>4218216
so you saying i should stick with my panasonic ct-32e13-1g? its a curb tube with component and s-video.

>>4218232
I would rather have that 32" TV over the 27" Sony one, yeah. But keep in mind there are other things to do with a CRT than 240p. If you're into old television shows or anime a 36" Trinitron is incredible.

>>4218226
>Looks like a vertical hold issue. The image has rolled slightly.
The image would be literally rolling vertically across the screen if it were an issue with vertical hold.

The image itself is rotated slightly, and looks to be underscanned quite heavily; The former may be tweakable via the normal menu, likely under the "Setup" tab with the option titled rotation. Even just changing which cardinal direction the TV is facing could have an effect on this. Failing that, it would need the yoke itself physically rotated to fix, and all the associated work that entails.

The "leaking" on the screen just looks like a few self test lines that are usually hidden in the overscan coming into view, and only in that corner because of the previously mentioned rotation. It's barely visible in the first image, but becomes more obvious in the second since the lack of an image to display makes the raster shrink a bit, thus showing even more of the overscan area.

If you can fix the rotation, and don't care about making things "perfect", my suggestion would be to just bring up the service menu to give the set a bit more overscan, and call it a day.

I'm interested in connecting my gaming desktop to my Sony Vega, do any of you have any tips and/or tricks?

I have just wanted to try and play some triple A games on max settings on my CRT..

Remember never to fall for the SCART meme.

>>4218287
>The image would be literally rolling vertically across the screen if it were an issue with vertical hold.

Not always. I can recreate the image that was posted by monkeying with the vertical hold on my CRT without rolling.

>>4218365
Oh, but yes you are probably right about it being a bit of overscan showing.

>>4218353
Remember to ignore butthurt burgers.

>>4218353
SCART is fine.

>>4218201
Kek.

When I was doing initial research I decided early on that I wanted to get a BVM-20F1E...then I went out and found one for £10/$13. Took a few weeks but I was determined not to sustain the current bubble by settling for the first one I saw.

Exit bags are easy and cheap to make at home.

>>4218445
Nice blog post, retard. I never said I was going to buy the first one I saw.
>I'm willing to spend an inflated price
Words you pulled out of your ass

>>4218506
I'm not even the anon who originally pulled you up m8.

You set a (high) price then asked for recommendations within that set framework. You're doing it arse-about-face.

>>4218047
>>4218201
Condition of the set weighs far more heavily than you think. A PVM-2130/2730/2530 at 420 TVL, with a tube in decent condition, will shit all over a worn out 1000-line BVM in every way.

To my mind, for ANY size set from 9" up to about 32", 400 to 600 TVL is perfect. The larger, the higher, until about 600. Nothing wrong with a nice 900 TVL BVM, though you wouldn't want one in your arcade cab either. Ikegami is a different story, of course.

A nice 14" 600TVL or possibly 800TVL PVM is probably your best bet. Why not go a 14L5 for extra formats.

This is all as long as the set is in good nick, tube is bright and the grids aren't worn and blurred out, and with good convergence or close enough that you can fix it. Sony's are often pretty fucked because reseating the yoke is bullshit, and then the beam landing after that - it's just a huge pain. Free20L5guy did his, but man i'm surprised it didn't end up like shit.

>>4218216
What the fuck has less than 300 lines? The SNES had a 256x240 mode, didn't it? Is that what you mean? Because everything else sits at like 320 minimum.

And if by lines you meant vertical resolution, please go and discover the proper meaning of the term TVL (TV Lines).

>>4218445
>implying if you work really hard to find your dream tv you'll find it

What a fucking idiot man, you do realize it takes a massive amount of luck to find a monitor and not only that but actually get it before some other random fuck does.

Fucking tosser

>>4218560
He was a bit indelicate, but it's also true to say the harder you look the more you'll find. Trust, me I know, because i wrote the...

TL;DR crt hunting guide in the pasta

>>4218513
>$300
>high
Not when you are looking for the best picture quality. And there is nothing wrong with having a budget. You won't get anywhere near diminishing returns for that amount of money.

>>4218548
"lines of resolution" not "TV Lines".
n00bs aren't going to know about TVL.
So yes, vertical resolution.

Christ, how many different varieties of these are out there?

>>4218605
This is the accompanying remote.

>>4217318

>>4218605
you know, it's not like disney is known to make disney merchandise....

>>4218560
I must be the luckiest man alive then because I've bought most of the highest regarded SD CRTs...in the past 12 months...on ebay...within easy driving distance...and paid in total less than anon is proposing to pay for a single one.

It's not luck; just persistence, patience and intelligence.

>>4218191
Some bvm's have 1000 tvl but the scanlines are wide and black as hell. It's too much for games to look good.

>>4218605
Spongebob tv's are actually pretty sweet. I kinda want one.

>>4217869
>>4217809

These are slot mask, just like 90% of CRTs in existence

>>4217742
Cromaclear Tridot slot mask

>>4217706
Additionally, when using RF signal I get this diagonal crosshatch/plaid "wave" covering the screen that washes up and down over the image.
It goes down for a couple seconds and stops for 1/4 second and the diagonal plaid/crosshatch is strongest and then it goes up for a couple seconds and stops for 1/4 second and this visual artifact disappears before it swings back down again.

>>4218875
You bought an NEC XM 29 plus, an AM-4201R, and a BVM 20F1U in the last 12 months? People regard these as some of the best "SD CRT"s even if they support higher resolutions.

Did you also buy a Sanwa arcade monitor? How about a vintage Betson? Commodore 1084?

>>4219103
One of my pickups was a BVM-20F1E, yes.

It cost me £10 BIN.

>>4219115
Ah the land of scart. That explains it.

>porn
>there's a nice trinitron in front of the couch

>>4219207

>>4218007
Sony KV-40XBR800

Even though it is not a Super Fine Pitch unit I think the extra size makes up the difference. 4:3 limits things a bit too, but it also increases your overall screen real estate. A 40" 4:3 CRT is one huge television.

The color, contrast, geometry and convergence may not be quite as good as smaller professional grade monitors, but it will still be really really good and the size difference will make up for it. If you want to watch videos you want to watch them with other people sometimes and nobody is going to be thrilled to sit back on the couch to watch a 14" BVM no matter how awesome it is from 2 feet away.

>>4219281
I'm scared for the structural integrity of that table.

>>4219139
One of is hardly "most of the highest regarded SD CRTs", anon.

>>4219281
40XBR800 upscale and lags. May as well use an LCD.

>>4219281
The problem is that any Wegas still sitting around likely have a problem. That's been my experience with them anyways.

>>4218989
Cromaclear is very slept on right now. But I think it will come into fashion soon since the PVMs are drying up and people look for alternatives. It also looks more like an arcade monitor games like you have there.

>>4217318
Apologies if this is a stupid question but can I buy a Nanao arcade monitor and just use a cardboard box for an enclosure?

>>4219287
CRT HDTVs have very little lag. As good as the best "lagless" LCDs.
>May as well use an LCD.
No way. There are a lot of benefits to using a CRT even when you upscale.

But the dude has said this is not for games anyway. So that stuff doesn't matter. This television would be really awesome for watching stuff like the blu-ray releases of 4:3 tv shows like Star Trek: TNG. Or sports like the WWE. I've watched wrestling on 1080i televisions and combing isn't really a problem. It just looks awesome.

>>4219309
You could but the question is if you should? Why do you want to do such a thing? Or maybe you mean the bezel that goes over the screen in the cabinet?

>>4219290
You just have to look for the right one.

>>4219313
I like them but the exposed back scares me and I'm not sure how to encase it. I figured at least a cardboard box would stop me from accidentally electrocuting myself.

>>4219326
What do you like about them? There may be televisions or monitors which use the exact same or nearly the same tube/chassis which would be more convenient for you.

>>4219330
They have a nice bloom level which covers up the scanlines just enough and they seem to be a lot easier to get a hold of right now. I just don't want to die from accidentally touching something when moving it.

>>4219339
Find a 27" Toshiba television (Nanao used Toshiba tubes) with component inputs that supports progressive scan and you have nearly the same thing.

>>4219358
Sweet thank you anon. I know what to look for now.

>>4219286
I've also got both sizes of Profeel, a PVM-2950QM and a Lacie Electron Blue IV for similar prices.

Could probably get them for free if I felt like pestering people but that's not my style. I'd rather wait for them to come to me and pay a fair price.

>>4219309
Build a box out of plywood and finish it with wood stain and then cover the screen with a bezel and sheet of smoked glass. It should look beautiful if done right.

Or find an old console television with a 29" tube in it and gut it and put yours in.

>>4218935
That is what they asked for, yeah.

>>4219409

Yup, it is

>>4219310
>people now defend HD CRT TVs

What has the CRT general come to?

>>4219450
When did people not defend them? They have their uses like any other CRT. Even games since they are great for sixth generation and later stuff. And although I have never done it I bet you could get a great image with Retroarch and carefully selected shaders for older low resolution games.

If you're a true CRT fan you're going to have at least one HDTV CRT in your house to go with the collection.

>>4219115
You live on a tiny island. Of course everything is going to be within driving distance. The nearest suitable monitor to me is 510 miles away.

>>4219409

Yup, it is

>>4219492
You live in a place where every minor city has at least one local tv station.

Swings and roundabouts my friend.

>>4219543
No, I don't.

I thought I had a line on a am4201r. Put in my credit card and everything. Company emailed back saying it was out of stock and would take 2-4 weeks to ship. After a week the company tried to charge my card but it got denied, said cust service. I called up the cc company and had the block removed, then emailed the customer service again. But he never replied. Sent 2 more emails the next week but never heard from them again. Looked up on the better business bureau and has a bunch of other people saying the same thing. Company is TamayaTech if anyone is interested. They still have the listing up

My TV has composite, S-video, and component ports. What would be the best system for emulation on it? A modded Wii?

>>4219358
>>>4219339
>Find a 27" Toshiba television (Nanao used Toshiba tubes) with component inputs that supports progressive scan and you have nearly the same thing.

I have the 14 inch version of that TV, it's great. It doesn't do progr
>>4219694
>My TV has composite, S-video, and component ports. What would be the best system for emulation on it? A modded Wii?

Modded Wii will be the easiest, out of the box 240p over YpBpR component is awesome.

>>4219708
So for the Wii I just need something like this then? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monster-Cable-Nintendo-Wii-Component-Video-and-Stereo-Audio-Cable-Kit-8-FT-/172248496126?epid=1300003937&hash=item281acf77fe:g:3mAAAOSw3YNXaF-1

After years of using my KV-13TR24 without a remote, I stumbled across a sharpness setting through a button combination using the front panel. Anyone know how I can replicate it? Any other hidden settings?

Is there a list of which types of video output each console supports natively?

>>4219757
>Anyone know how I can replicate it?
Find a working "Universal remote" app that has settings you need. I picked up a tv without a remote, and found out it was needed to use the inputs. No app combo was perfect, but I did find one to change the channels.

A sony is a real name tv....unlike my emerson. You should have no issue finding a free phone app.....If not, ebay. Used remotes are like $5. I had to buy one to use the OSD, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding a match.

>>4219772
http://retrorgb.com/systems.html

>>4219650
The company website looks incredibly scammy. How much were you intending to pay for it? Surely not the listed price.

>>4219796
thanks but that mostly has information on RGB ports, it doesn't mention much about other types like S-video

>>4218287
literally?

>>4219821
there's the s-video pasta

>>4219826
but there isn't one that includes each type of cable and each system? I might make one myself then

>>4219821
It includes all that info and more anon.

>>4219839
not really. for example on the snes page it doesn't mention that it supports s-video

>>4219842
Huh it does go on to show you how to mod svideo back into a snes mini but guess you're right it doesn't really outright say it.

>>4219805
It would have been about $300-500 more due to shipping.

>>4219830
>>4219839
>>4219842
>>4219851
well anyway here's the list I'm starting if anyone wants to provide me with information

>>4219862
Here I found this.

http://www.mountainouswords.com/mountain-air/snes-and-the-secret-s-video/

>>4219867
>secret
Nigga anybody who owned a cheap gamestop universal video cable would have tried it with their SNES. Because what did they have to lose?

>>4219880
Yeah I didn't make the site.

Just found this http://www.gametrog.com/GAMETROG/HOW_TO_Connect_Hook-up_SEGA_Genesis_CD_32X_Nintendo_NES_SUPER_SNES_N64.html but it doesn't have any info on RGB for some reason, so I'll just combine that along with retrorgb.com to make one list >>4219862

>>4219880
I got one of these for XBOX, PS2, and WII. I cant have the other 2 plugged in while 1 is on. So I had to keep unplugging them... ANNOYING.

>>4219912
The one with both component and composite outputs can be used as a RGBS cable on the PS2 and possibly other systems as long as the monitor supports composite video sync. Strangely, this only works in 480i mode. In 480p sync is sent on the green channel for RGsB.

You'll need phono to BNC adapters to do it on most monitors.

ikegami posting

I just got this durabrand 13" tv for 10 bucks. It only has composite but I think it looks good in spite of that

>>4218607
I like how they were selling sex toys to kids

I recently found pic related after years of thinking it was lost or got stolen.
It has no input of any type but is it possible to mod it to have one?

Do you guys think it would be worth it to upgrade from a Sony Trinitron KV24FS120 to a JVC TM-H19OCG? I'm planning on creating the RGB/YPbPr SDI card so it'll support Component as well. Is the jump in quality justified from high-end consumer to broadcast level?

>>4219543
Here in the states any production company has already upgraded to newer technology. They have thrown away old monitors or workers took them home and have them. What trickles down is what the rest of us can get. Ex production or medical workers know the value of such monitors and sell it for what they see it going for online which is always a healthy amount.

I don't know what you inbred fuckwads on that island think of old monitors but glad you have the LUCK of living with absolute toasters who sell shit like that for 15 bucks. Because that's all it is, luck. There's no form of "hard work" or "dedication" you can put towards finding a monitor since you only get what happens to pop up in front of you.

Patience is the only thing you can account for. I had the luck of getting a BVM months after starting my hunt for broadcast monitors. Since then I've continued searching and have only had the luck to come across a handful that weren't being sold for outrageous amounts of money.

You're so far wrong with your statement that I had typed a response to you then deleted it because I figured it wasn't worth the mention. Now I typed it up again because you're just that fucking retarded.

>>4220363
Thanks for wasting your time, anon :)

>>4220147
you can always open it up and replace the antenna with a coax connection

>>4220365
No prob you retarded britcuck

>>4220363
dude, don't waste your time on pricks like him.
He's just like free20lcunt, except tries to mask it under some layers of fake niceness.

>>4220264
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/MONITOR/brochure/tmh150cg.pdf
Yes, it is.

Do the PVM you can find en Europe accept NTSC signals in general? Or are they 50hz/PAL only?

I might know someone who can get me one but I'm not sure if it will work at all with my NTSC N64 and NES

>>4220491
PVMs yes.
Some old BVMs might not. Mine came with PAL and SECAM cards only.

>>4220496
I thought BVMs should generally have more options?

>>4220502
yeah, options as in, optional.

>>4220049
I've actually become quite fond of composite. After spending money on a PVM and RGB cables for my retro consoles over the years, its quite comfy when you come back to composite. It works especially well with PS1 games that have 3D character models on top of per-rendered backgrounds.

>>4218353
Can you remind us what's wrong with SCART if Y/Pb/Pr isn't available?

>>4220653
SCART is better than Y/Pb/Pr, provided the TV actually supports RGB and it isn't just composite video with a weird connector.

>>4219824
Metaphysically.

>>4220653
First of all, SCART is a cable-type. Not a signal. SCART cables are actually capable of transmitting most analog video signals including composite and s-video.

The real problem is that SCART got latched onto by the gaming community because the first officially-available cables to carry RGB signals for most game systems were SCART. Nothing in America takes SCART, though, so adapters had to be made. Then the baffling thing is that when people began to custom-make cables for RGB in the states, they still use SCART for no reason at all. I have no idea why all the stateside makers of retro gaming cables aren't just doing them right to BNC or RCA, since that's what most US RGB monitors accept. There is no reason not to. Other than the fact that maybe the majority of the enthusiasts are too ignorant to actually learn about the technology behind the cables, and all just assume that they need to buy SCART to get the best signal and that's that.

So that's why people hate SCART. The cable itself isn't bad as long as you don't buy the cheapo Chinese ones, which are highly prone to internal interference, but the cable has kind of come to represent a base-level of ignorance displayed by the average retro gamer bandwagoner.

>>4219757
Just buy a Sony RM-781 remote. They're nothing on eBay.

>>4220396
>free20lcunt
Oh fuck, is that faggot still around? I haven't been in these threads for over a year, I was hoping he had moved on.

>>4220820
RCA is terrible, I can understand that.
But RGB via BNC is literally the golden standard.

Hell 3x BNC over 75ohm coax is still used now for 12G-SDI...

>>4221202
>RCA is terrible, I can understand that.
I never said RCA is terrible. Why is it terrible?

Can anyone identify this model? Europe

>>4221407
Cont

>>4221410
The dude selling it told me that if I wanted to see model # I would have to go there and see for myself. What an asshole.

>>4221407
>>4221410
Did you try looking on the back?

>>4221416
hes a prick, dont even bother.

>>4221419
It's from an online posting. I asked the guy to snap a pic from the back and he told me he wouldn't, if I wanted I could go look for myself (30 min drive, fuck that)

>>4221425
amazes me how people still dont have the common sense to take a picture of the back when they list it. You cant even tell what the inputs are without looking at the back, its practically useless.

>>4221429
>>4221425
>>4221410
but you can already see the 100hz logo on it, which means you don't want it.

>>4221438
a fair point

>>4221438
Explain Anon

>>4221457
Doubler circuits add latency.
It's infinitesimal compared to LCDs, but it's there.
Personally, I'd take the 100/120hz over ear-raping noise anyday

>>4221464
I just want to be able to hook up a NTSC N64 and Wii and not have it be in grayscale. Will 100hz "adapt" to 60hz+NTSC color over SCART?

That's all I want

>>4221478
'100hz' won't no.
But that TV will yes.

Actually it'll probably work *better* in 60hz, since it's likely the doublers are only for 50hz to 100hz (being a PAL model) so should just be skipping them entirely.

>>4221490
Well by 'better' I mean in the case of typical /vr/ users - I'd still prefer 100/120hz simply due to the lesser audible noise.
(if you can't heat shit, then don't even worry)

>>4221495
Oh Anon, I can definitely hear the noise and it sucks balls.

The room I'm going to set this up in is completely empty except a table and a few books, you can hear it loud and clear.

Thank you for your help

>>4221429
Most people don't give a fuck what the back of a TV looks like, and don't expect the people buying it to care either. Why the fuck would they? To them it was just a magic box that let them watch the football and Who Wants to be a Millionaire? every week.

>>4221508
As can I, one thing I will say though, my DT860's I usually use for games mask most of the noise and my DT770's mask all of it.
So if you've got semi-closed or closed headphones, you might be alright.

>>4221528
It's possibly even a good sign, a photo of the terminals means the seller knows what they have.

Anon from a few threads ago with the Toshiba 36JW9UA.
No progress, had too much going on to pull it down.

But my backup trintron - an XF21M30 can be RGB modded, so I'm a little bit happier, even though that's quite a lot of work alone (as much as possibly fixing the Toshy)
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=60130

>>4219015
>>4217706

Anybody?

Can someone explain to me the "free20lcunt" meme?

>>4221829
I think some guy got a free pvm 20L5 which is the best PVM in existence, highly desirable because it does up to 1080i, curved surface, and also looks cool. I guess someone got a free one and they made an ass out of themselves.

Personally I'm excited to share my new Ikegami with everyone once it arrives. I strongly prefer their monitors over Sony.

>>4221836
To be fair I'd probably be a jerk if I got a 20L5 for free. I have a 14L5 but has to pay out the ass for it (right at $450).

>>4221829
he bragged non stop about getting a 20l5, and was so anti-scart he butchered his snes with rcas and couldn't even be arsed to buy 220µF caps so he juryrigged caps in parallel on a perfboard.
At some point he was so proud he posted pics on assemblers. He got roasted.

He's probably >>4218353

>>4221975
How do you do RGB from an SNES without SCART? Sorry, I'm very nooby with this stuff. I get that you said RCA cables but I only ever see those carry component or YPbPr

>>4221438
>but you can already see the 100hz logo on it, which means you don't want it.

Reeeeeeeeeeeee stop giving bad advice to people because this CRT isn't the best for playing your stupid SNES games.

100hz TVs are good for things such as... watching videos and playing games in 100hz! Which is still /vr/ because 3d games can easily be made to run at the frame rate.

>>4221981
he drilled holes and put rca sockets wired to rgb lines in the console
scart is just a multiwire cable.

>>4221983
the guy already said what he wanted the CRT for, which doesn't include what you listed.

>>4221981
>How do you do RGB from an SNES without SCART?
SCART is nothing more than a connector. Instead of connecting the RGB pins to an ugly europoor connector with abysmal impedance matching simply connect them to coax cable with BNC termination.

What do you guys know about NEC monitors? I found an NEC CT-2750S online, and I can't figure out its specs. Google hasn't come up with anything except ads for spare remotes or manuals.

It would be nice to know what its specs are before I make the drive. Anyone know anything?

>>4222152
>impedence meme guy

>>4222050
He didn't say that until AFTER

>>4222154
>NEC CT-2750S
looks like it has s-video so thats pretty good. I love the old 80s NEC logo.

Look at this beauty for sale on ebay right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mitsubishi-Diamond-Vision-35-Console-Color-Monitor-CK-3502R-RGB-TV-/222403163644?hash=item33c842f5fc:g:IFcAAOSw4DJYm1Mh

I bet this television is the "prosumer" cousin to the Mitsubishi AM-3501R. The tube is identical in size and the casing is very similar.

RGB is supported with a 8 and 16 color switch. Is an analog RGB signal also supported? Most likely there is a way to get it through with a minimal effort, similar to the way people do it with older Sony units.

250 lbs...

>300 dollars! I can get muh 20" PVM for the price of a bologna sandwich down at the dump!
Hush, plebs. There is more to this hobby than searching for the display which most closely emulates the look of an LCD monitor with 1:1 scaling. This thing would be beautiful in a dozen ways you'd just have to see to understand.

>>4222587
Magazine blurb about it. $3,100 MSRP.

>>4222587
>RGB is supported with a 8 and 16 color switch
that's digital RGB, it's useless.

>>4222595
There may be a way to ground a pin on the connector or somewhere inside the CRT and make it accept analog RGB. Don't give up so quickly in the face of a minor obstacle. For all you know you won't even have to anything other than make the appropriate cable.

>>4222595
>16 colors
>useless
Some one never played DOS games.

>>4222609
mang, I played MS Decathlon, Defender and Paratrooper on a CGA monitor.

>>4222602
A little more information about this connector. It has been run into before. I'm still reading these links.

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?25084-So-I-just-found-a-North-American-NTSC-TV-with-RGB
http://wouter.bbcmicro.net/hardware/monitors/index.html

and an old one we've probably seen to revisit from time to time
http://www.labguysworld.com/Connectors.htm

>>4222587
Very nice.

>>4222595
Useless for everything except what it was designed to do. This would make a very bad ass CGA monitor.

I'm getting kind of tired of these types of posts tbqh. There is more to CRTs than playing Nintendo and Sega games.

Samsung security monitor yay or nay? Seller's asking for $25. I think it's a SAM-14MV, has S-video and two composite in.

>>4222661
Offer $15 and if he doesn't take it walk away.

>>4222661
A used security monitor is very likely to have burn-in.

>>4222670
They say no burn in, made in August 2005 sitting in garage unused since 2009. >>4222665 25 kiwibux so ~18USD, sound fair?

>>4222651
then go buy it and report on your progress.

>>4222678
I would think about it if it wasn't 1000 miles away.

>>4222674
Considering your location, yes I would go for it. You may get lucky and find that it has good S-video support.

>>4222651
CGA is extra easy to convert to 15khz RGBS. No need for special sauce connector

>>4222587
>RGB is supported with a 8 and 16 color switch
All that cares about is the voltage level of the signal. You can send any number of colors you want. Whether or not the DAC in the TV will decode them is another issue.
I'm not really sure how you'd send TTL video from a modern computer to the television. I think you'd have to make your own little converter box.

>>4222469
Thank you man

>>4221543
>means the seller knows what they have
They don't have ANYTHING. They have an old, heavy, outdated TV. I know production monitors and certain computer monitors demand higher prices due to their desirability and comparable rarity, but are people actually paying/asking considerable amounts of money for old, consumer CRTs these days? People should be paying you to take them away, really.

>>4222152
>Instead of connecting the RGB pins to an ugly europoor connector with abysmal impedance matching simply connect them to coax cable with BNC termination.
He still did it the retarded way. Why take your system apart and butcher it with drills and hot glue when the stock multi-out port already sends an rgb signal? Why not just modify a cable instead of modifying the system? The anti-SCART meme falls apart when you realize you're asking people to basically knock down a wall to get inside their house, when there's already a fucking door. free 20L5 faggot was the absolute definition of a hipster elitist.

The stupid part is that nobody just makes RCA cables to carry RGB for these old consoles. There's no reason for them to output in SCART format in the US, and frankly I'm curious how useful it is even in Europe, since simply having a SCART input doesn't always mean the TV is capable of displaying RGB.

>>4222152
>instead of connecting the RGB pins from the stock connector to an existing cable, simply hack apart your system and solder new outputs that run through holes drilled in the back of the casing and are drenched with hot glue
I didn't know 20L5 cunt had indoctrinated disciples.

>>4223292
>since simply having a SCART input doesn't always mean the TV is capable of displaying RGB.
Yes it does, I have yet to run into a set that doesn't do RGB on scart 1. The more common problem is not supporting 60hz, which happens pretty much only on shitty sub brands, and even here it's rare.

>>4223292
>The stupid part is that nobody just makes RCA cables to carry RGB for these old consoles.
you need to house resistors and caps somewhere. On console side it won't fit on smaller plugs, and adding a middle box just isn't worth the price and trouble.
Some guy posted on shumps that, after doing a full extron matrix bnc wiring job, came to the conclusion that bnc was far more of a chore than scart. I find that quite funny.

>>4221528
>To them it was just a magic box that let them watch the football and Who Wants to be a Millionaire? every week.
Get over yourself. Normal people are not as dumb as you imply.

>>4223604
You're right. If they're getting hipsters to buy CRTs for any kind of serious money in 2017, they are definitely NOT the dumb ones.

>>4221407
Its a trinitron u stupid fuck

Finally out on PC bois

Anyone know of a cheap 9-pin CGA to VGA converter box I could buy?

CGA port is on a laptop

>I'm part of the scart master race now!
>wow this scart looks so good you guys were right!

>>4223916
>implying SCART is anything but mundane

thoughts on crt vga for pc?

>>4223945
more interesting and useful than TVs

If I already have a well-calibrated PVM is it really worth it for me to buy RGB cables for my SNES? S-video already looks pretty damn good

today I got something that was never used.

>>4217318
Why do you people pride yourselves on your video game equipment

>>4224250
why do you post?

>>4224226
its gorgeous too.

>>4224506
superb color

>>4224507
passes on the close up inspection too.

Free 32" Sony Trinitron in Morehead, KY. It's one of the older black ones. Probably does not support component input, but would have a high quality s-video support.

https://lexington.craigslist.org/zip/d/sony-color-tv/6279867380.html

These TVs are disappearing..

>not my listing in case you think I'm the guy in the reflection. Although it's not that inaccurate tbqh

>>4224682
You're incorrect use of greentexting and ellipsis is irritating

>>4224682
give it back jamal

>>4224704
There is no incorrect usage of either. Prose does not follow rigid rules. I am sure that will not fly well in the most autistic thread on /vr/ but it's the truth.

>M.A. English

>>4224704
>You're

>>4224538
>shadow mask

>>4224682
>Morehead
>black

Unsurprising

>>4224682
I've got the 27" version of that set. It's pretty dope, the s-video quality is better than the component video quality of some other sets I've had. It's got retarded red push by default but it's easily correctable in the service menu with the AXPL option.

>>4224538
>>4224506
>>4224507
>>4224226
Sexy as fuck anon. what does the case look like?

>>4224923

>roomate watching britbong reality tv show
>hey this is stu -
>see pic related
>continues watching hyper interested with 9/10 boner

>>4225137
His name ain't Stu

His name is THE VOICE OF MOTHERFUCKIN RASTAMOUSE YOU BOMBACLART

>>4222661
Bought it, quite liking it so far. Convergence is out especially on the top left, and it's decoding S-video a bit weird, the chroma is leading the luma.

>>4225374
that's really rough looking.

>>4217706
>>4219015

You might be able to fix that by with a degaussing coil. You can get those on Ebay.

Saw this is my college's library. Anyone know the model name?

>>4225983
CVM-1900

Picked up a SAMSUNG TX-R2035 20". Svideo BLOWS my former Emerson out of the water.

This TV was made in 2006. It has Svideo/Composite and Component. This is where the problem is......

I have only tested component with a modded xbox. The xbox outputs 480p, and I have been unable to force it to 480i.

I know with the Wii, there is a menu setting to "fix" this.

I am very happy, though would love to get my xbox working correctly....I think there is an issue in the soft mod that it only outputs 480p. It works fine with svideo

All I use the xbox for is emulation, and Id love to know how to make unleashx do 480i.

Went and bought a non working mitsubishi x2930 for $150. All it does it show blue screen on the various inputs (rca video and rgb). Can it be fixed or did I mess up?

>>4226328
Got a component or s-video cable? If so, hook that up, boot into original dashboard, change settings there. Or use Hexen.

>>4226475
Is there a blue only button? or else you got some soldering to do.

>>4226206
Thanks man

Has anyone heard of a Superscan TV? I saw one pop up on FB Marketplace recently and I have no idea how it compares to other brands/models.

>>4226328
Get an HDTV that accepts 480p, connect the xbox with component cables and change the settings to 480i.

>>4226497
Microsoft is retarded and won't let you change 480p to 480i if you are using composite or s-video. IIRC the option is greyed out or just doesn't appaer.

>>4226514
No blue button. It just has a all blue screen, or goes black. Does say the various input names as text on the screen, so seems like some of the TV is functional. I got the model wrong its XC-2930C

>>4226497
>Got a component or s-video cable? If so, hook that up, boot into original dashboard, change settings there. Or use Hexen.
I have all types of cables to connect the xbox. Svideo/composite/component.

I hook it up with the composite/svideo cables, and the xbox does not give me options. It knows from what is plugged in that it is SD, and gives no options.

I plug in the HD cables, and the xbox then defaults to 480p. The "Splash Screen" is a-ok , but the instant the custom Dash (UnleashX) boots, it goes right to 480p.

I will have to find HEXEN. Xbox modding items have all but vanished from the net. I have a file full of everything needed, but I don't have hexen.

>>4226693
>Get an HDTV that accepts 480p, connect the xbox with component cables and change the settings to 480i.
For some reason this is not working. Even if I set (480p/720p/1080i) to NO, in the UnleashX dash, and the M$ dash. I may have to learn how to reinstall the soft mod. It has been nearly a decade since I did this, and the info has all but dried up.

>>4226938
If you've got network set up you should also be able to FTP in, find the UnleashX config.xml, change the <VideoSettings entry with Use480P="No" Use720P="No" Use1080I="No" Widescreen="No"

>>4226995
>>4226995
>VideoSettings entry with Use480P="No" Use720P="No" Use1080I="No" Widescreen="No"
I did ftp to this file, and found that it is EXACTLY as you posted it, and as I saved it in the menu.

It is odd....It is something in the dashboard. The box boots up normal, and the splash screen is 100% crystal clear (480i). after that it goes to shit (480p).

I am looking to see if others have encountered this. I don't want to reinstall the dash. I don't have the time/area to put together an IDE motherboard with all the necessary shit.

>>4227021
what? just use a copy of splinter cell, a flash drive, and a usb female to xbox controller port adapter. no reason to use that ancient method if you have to remod your shit.

>>4227031
>no reason to use that ancient method
Aside from the fact that I don't have:
>Splinter Cell
>Usb Female Xbox controller adapter

I may just skip it and do nothing. Doing nothing is easy. My brother has my Red Wii. It was softmodded. I know that it has a menu setting for 480i/p, and that it works without issue.

I used a very old method involving pulling running hard drives from xboxes in order to get all the info I need. I have all of that info right here.....I just happen to have one of them queer ass micro pc that have no IDE hookups. This is my "little" xbox with a modest 100gb hdd. This was more about a simple solution so that I could quickly test this.

I got plenty of IDE drives to use for a dummy/tester. I would never have seen this issue coming at all. So far out.

Basically, there is a 240p SNES emulator that I wanted to actually test at 240p. BUT it only works with the component cables if I am reading it correctly.

Still seems like using my Wii would be faster.....

>>4226793
If its fading to a solid color or comes back. Its probably old caps that need replacing. I need to do this for one of my monitors as well turns solid green color. But at least yours still works so there is still hope in fixing it.

>>4227021
>>4227031
Couldn't you just boot up an hexen disc instead of doing the softmod from scratch?

>>4227095
I am downloading it now.

We will see what I can do lol.

Years ago right when XBoxlive for the xbox cancelled, there was a huge "sell off". The nerds holding onto the glory of Halo2 finally gave it up. I picked up a pair of Xbox for dirt cheap. Both needed repaired. Both got the exact same softmod...one has 100gb, other is 500...Later I gave the 500gb a red paint job to match the wii.

Its a shame that there is not a way we can have a General for Xbox and Wii just because of the huge retro support.

I will see if this hexen disc can help. Hopefully it is not Hexen the video game from the 90s.

>>4225983
I had one of these. The image quality is excellent even with only composite input. Get it.

>>4219281
>XBR
Nope.
>>4219481
>HDTV CRT
Yeahnah
>>4219694
PC + transcoder
>>4220264
Not really no.
>>4224226
HNNNNG

>>4227197
Y

>>4226938
>For some reason this is not working. Even if I set (480p/720p/1080i) to NO, in the UnleashX dash, and the M$ dash.
Weird. IIRC it should be done in the stock dash. Did you check on the TV to see if the signal type actually changed? Most HDTVs have an info bottom that makes the TV display the type of signal it is displaying.

>>4227247
Yepper. Here is the even more odd aspect of it. HeXEn disc(s) run no problem with the SD tv with component video. Thanks Anons. This application is great.

However, after reinstalling the various dashboards it still wants to go back to progressive 480.

>>4226475
>Went and bought a non working mitsubishi x2930 for $150. All it does it show blue screen on the various inputs (rca video and rgb).
A flat blue screen is the default screen the XC-**30C has for either no input or incompatible input/sync.
https://youtu.be/hP4cHhDfpVw?t=15m32s

It's entirely possible that either the termination switches for sync on RGB1 or Video 2 are in the wrong position (can cause the monitor not to detect sync and as such not display anything at all), or for Video 1 that the switch is flipped to S-Video.

I'd also suggest try to use the BNC connectors for Video 1 and Video 2, as at least on my 3730c, the RCA connectors are a tad finicky.

This monitor --NEEDS-- clean CSync for the RGB inputs; Luma Sync or CVid will not work. It will happily accept RGBHV, RGBS, or RGsB however.

If you don't have anything capable of CSync or RGsB, a few BNC adapters and a standard Component cable will work in a pinch to see if the thing functions at all. You'll end up with (what should be) a green only picture, but it'll at least let you know it can display video.

>>4227272
>This monitor --NEEDS-- clean CSync for the RGB inputs
To add, it needs clean Csync at TTL level on the BNC (despite what the manual says, and even with termination set to 75), ie the direct output of an LM1881.
The RGB2 DB15 connector has separate pins for 0.3v and TTL levels.

>>4219218
aw yea now we're fappan

>>4223638
Update. Found a way to fix up the aspect ratio a bit it looks much better now

>>4227247
>Weird. IIRC it should be done in the stock dash. Did you check on the TV to see if the signal type actually changed? Most HDTVs have an info bottom that makes the TV display the type of signal it is displaying.
here is the long and short of it all.

This specific xbox WILL NOT OUTPUT 480i via component.

I tried every which way, and actually wish I had not reinstalled this Hexen version of unleashx.

I walked across the room to the 500gb xbox. It has generic hd cables too. I swapped them. No change.

However, that xbox can be set for 480i, and it sticks through restarts etc.

Something is fucked up with it. I don't know what, but I am done. I wish I could get it to work. Fuck it. Its getting replaced with the Wii.

I'm living in Australia
Is there a way to get 60hz crts without having to pay an arm and a leg to import one?
Can 100hz tvs run games on 60hz or does it create a jitter?

>>4227197
Your shitposts are not welcome here.

>>4227272
Thanks for your help. Tried rgb with 75 ohm terminals screwed in and in the 75 position, and without any terminals and in the high position and just blue screen. Has csync only. Had to build that cable for my NEC XM37, and it works so I know the cable is good. Haven't tried BNC connectors on the RCA video, I'll try that though I'm thinking something else is up. I'm also not getting any sound, not sure if that says anything or not.

Is there a service menu in this CRT? Anyone know where to get a service manual? I see one for $20 that I can download if I have to

>>4227290
I dunno what that all means. I'm using a SNES mini modded to output csync, and a cable that I modded to use sync only instead of sync from composite. Should this work do you think?

>>4227780
no it won't work. The RGB BNCs will only work with TTL levels (5v) and your console outputs TV levels (0.3v). You would need some circuit to make it work on RGB BNCs
Your best bet is to try the composite or S-video inputs as they only have one type of sync.

>>4227495
Every consumer CRT TV sold in Aus after ~1985 will do 60Hz. Every TV sold after ~1990 will do NTSC as well as PAL.

100Hz TV's are digital, and will scale or process any 15kHz signal you input (240p signals, like from consoles up to the PS1 generation). They'll show a picture just fine, but the picture will be a little off, and will lag. The point of using a CRT for older games is to do it right :) That said, for xbox360 or PS3, HD CRT's can be great.

>>4227197
>HDTV CRT
>Yeahnah
Only goes to show you've never been anywhere near a good one. A Sony KV-HR is better for watching 1080 content than any $10K OLED. In fact it's not even close.

>>4227819
You're not wrong but we're in /vr/. CRT for HD content is for another board/forum.

>>4227804
I get the same black screen when I hook up a dvd player via svideo (switch is in the SVIDEO position instead of NORMAL and on HIGH and not 75).

Any chance this tv isn't toast?

>>4217318
I'm using Reshade and DisplayCAL 3D LUT on a wide gamut monitor:

What should I profile for if I want to play NES, SNES, MAME emulators?

NTSC + 2.2 gamma? Or REC 709 + BT.1886 gamma?

>>4219310
Sorry you're just wrong. I've got a Wega 30XS955 hd crt and it has more lag than my Bravia lcd.

>>4227819
>tfw had an xbr960
>idiots cling to it as the best HD 16:9 CRT ever
>used it for 7 years before replacing it with a 43" 1080p LG flat panel
the xbr960 is awful and consumer HD CRTs are awful.

>>4226573
Don't do it, just wait for a Sony or basically anything else.

>>4227409
Why not 16:9?

I got myself a Sony PVM-14M2U. one of the odd things was it went into two Sources when using Ypbpr. A works fine, but B had a red tint. was odd, not sure if that's a system issue.

>>4228102
I obviously would if I could lol nice display

So I just moved into a new home and I finally have access to my PVM 2530 with my 10 consoles in tow. I want to set up my consoles on display in a shelving unit with my 2530 on top, but the fat bitch weighs almost 120 lbs and I'm m worried whatever shelving unit I either buy or build won't be strong enough to hold it's weight and crush the shelf and my consoles underneath.
I've looked up DIY projects, but none of the things ones I've found are built with CRTs in mind but instead LCDs. If anyone could offer some sage advice, suggestions, or recommendations to aid my uncertainty in this predicament, I'm all ears as it were.

Pic related is my 2530 on a dolly on the ground.

>>4229084
If you're looking into DIY solutions, why not just build a custom one from scratch? Shelving units are hardly complicated, just need to be semi-weary of where stress is going to be applied and put bracing in accordingly.

>>4227475
>This specific xbox WILL NOT OUTPUT 480i via component.
Does it have a BIOS installed that forces 480p? That's what I did to one of mine.

>>4227956
>Any chance this tv isn't toast?
It's probably fine. My XC only works with my LM1881 chip'd scart adapter.

>>4229119
We're still putting the house together. I haven't gotten to that point yet. I'm trying to get ideas for my PVM/console setup.

>>4228045
Was just asking. Already rocking a KV-27FS120 until I can find a much larger, higher TVL JVC bubble tube.

What type of audio do you guys use? TV speakers? New or old stereo systems?
Do you go all out to get that surround sound on the SNES?

>>4229084
>If anyone could offer some sage advice, suggestions, or recommendations to aid my uncertainty in this predicament, I'm all ears as it were.
Find a DIY on building a fish tank stand. Use that as a way to hold it. I use a few CRT around, and the ways I hold them up are unreasonable for most people. My current samsung 20" is sitting on a stand that weighs more than it does. 8" c-channel 8" long with a piece of plate welded in between. I made it at work to hold a GDM-fw900. It holds the samsung perfectly. Systems sit under it.

However, you need a stable desk for a CRT.

Pic related is a design I have used for diy "flat" surfaces. It is very easy to make it level and flat, and recently I built one 36" x 24" on the flat top and 39" to the top from the floor. It was built with 2x6, and is totally unnecessary for anything supporting a simple TV.

This design could use 2x3 boards easily for your CRT and all of your systems. Put supports every 2-3 feet depending on your weight. 120lbs is not all that much for a 2x3

>>4229363
>Put supports every 2-3 feet depending on your weight.
Forget I even said that. That is more for a fish tank than a vidya game stand. The stand in that photo is for a standard 55g tank. that makes it 48" long x 18" deep. There are only 4 supports.

>>4229084
Go to Walmart and get those cube shelf things. You know what I'm talking about. Put it on it's side so it's 2 vertical x 3-4 Horizontal and put it on top. I have 2 CRTs and use them

>>4229365
>Go to Walmart and get those cube shelf things.
That is better than my fish tank stand idea. looks cheaper and better.

What tv on the right there...the Samsung?

>>4229371
Both are HDCRTs
Samsung is a txn3075whf
Sony is a kv-30hs420
Both are great TVs

>>4229379
>txn3075whf
I just picked up a Txr0235, and it looks identical aside from yours looking wide. I see it now.

NICE. Thanks for the speedy response anon.

>>4229390
My only gripe about the Samsung is that in order to switch to component, you have to go through the menus and cannot set it to the normal 'input' button on the remote. It's really odd and kinda shitty

>>4229402
I have the same problem with my Samsung CRT. I ended up consolidating my remotes with a $6 RCA RCRPS06GR universal learning remote, and holy shit it has macros. I was able to pre-program the button presses for running through the menu and toggling component input, and now it's just a single button press.

Is my Sharp 13K-M100 13 inch TV any good?

>>4229402
>My only gripe about the Samsung
I have complaints about this one as well involving the component input. Video 2 is either one of Composite/Component/Svideo.
Video one is composite. There is no option for 2 good video inputs, but it lets me plug them in. Basically AV2, S-video and component all share the same rca audio input. Great.

Bonus points for me is that there is a simple RCA output for AV. This is astounding. But wait....Audio does not go out IF you are using Component. Oh. So I run the Wii audio directly to the sound system, and bypass the tv. Everything else that is low-def delivers sound from the tv (which is really nice in surround) and the sound system.

It is an 06 model. Id not have grabbed it if it was any older than my 05 emerson.
>>4229429
I got really lucky. I got my Samsung thrift shopping. No remote. No problem. I have a very good SMALL 720p lcd made by samsung for travel. It is a very good travel monitor. The remote works from that. Bonus points.

I know what you both are talking about with setting component. I bought this knowing how samsung tv menus are. Thankfully this one is a simple one button press... (AV1/AV2/S-VIDEO/COMPONENT)

It somewhat sucks that there is an av on the side, but from what I can tell, its the same damn shit as on the back...more terrible low definition stuff. If I ever get an NES (I don't know why) At least there is a spot for it. Until then I will just have to use

>>4227409
what res you running?
320x240? 320x224?

>>4224720
who are you quoting?

So I'm trying to plan my retro computer setup. The main 31Khz monitor will be an Iiyama Vision Master 514, an Amiga or Amstrad monitor will take care of 15KHz sources (although I'm looking for a 1084S so I could plug TTL RGB signals into it), and I have another Iiyama (Vision Master 454) laying around. There is also a pair of LaCie Electron Blue II For sale for cheap near me.
As I maybe connecting several VGA computers, I was thinking of getting a KVM to keep the cluster to a minimum. I stumbled onto pic related for somewhat cheap, supporting DVI-I.
So here are my questions: would a KVM introduce any lag, or fuck with different resolutions/refresh rates going through it ?
Will the image quality suffer ? Is going the KVM way is definitely saying goodbye to multi-monitors setups ?

I'm so bad at this game but the music is too good

>>4229365
>no extension piece for Genesis 1 / Sega CD 2 combo

>>4229981
I have it stored somewhere, but haven't came across it
What happened was when I got the Sega CD 2 as a kid, my parents got me the Gen Model 2 (I already had the Model 1). Because of that, I didn't need the extension so I just stored it somewhere.
A few years ago, I learned about the audio differences and switched it out for the Model 1. I just couldn't find the extension but I know I have it somewhere

>>4230134
I'm not really interested in your excuses, bucko.

Find it, or buy another one. Your choice.

>>4225374
Tweaked a bit for focus and made a delay line cable to fix the S-video delay

>>4230368
pretty solid consumer tv

I was the guy with the possibly non working 1994 Mitsubishi XC2930c. Just bought a 1998 XC2935C, how similar are the two? I haven't picked up the 2935 yet.

>>4230548
The main difference is 5

I went to the Peddler's Mall today. I decided to take a pic of every CRT in the store for sale. I was only using the camera on my flip phone so the quality won't be very good.

The first one I saw was a Samsung 332-TM. It was pretty charming with the various sliders, buttons, and knobs. I am sure it will sell pretty quickly for 19.99 even though it has only RF connections.

Rear view of the Samsung. I'll post front and back views of most units.

The connections on this TV were coaxial (F type) and UHF/VHF on the two screws (I forget the proper name for this connection).

Orion Television manufactured by Thompson electric.
$20
Coaxial connection only.
The photo I took of the back didn't come out well.

Lots of these TVs all over the place. I doubt it will sell for the price listed. But the 19" tube inside does have its uses in hacking projects such as replacement tubes for arcade machines. They can also sometimes easily be hacked for RGB if you have the skill.

Magnavox 13" Television
$15
Coaxial

I forgot to take a photo of the back of this one.

RCA F35317 35" Television "Entertainment Series"
$99
Coaxial
Composite
S-video
G-link

This television has been sitting here for a couple of years. I have thought about buying it many times because it's in excellent condition.

I would say this television definitely has some advanced video processing and the "good" kind of s-video connector. The image on it even with S-video should be superb.

I have weird question, obviously in the 90's I don't think it was widespread as it is today that Trinitron is the superior CRT for gaming. What was the market like for CRTs in terms of TV shows?

Rear view of the RCA

>>4231332
Sony was still considered the King, but a lot of people did not want to pay a premium for one, so they were happy with their Phillips or Magnavox sets that were considered nice sets for the time.

Not very many people even knew about using composite video.

>>4231337
That's actually interesting. Weren't PVMs often used in Hospitals? I don't know if I heard that correctly before, but if so, why was that?

Connectors of the RCA. The G-link connector is unrelated to video quality and was a proprietary interface used with RCA dvd players to allow them to communicate with the TV. You could control the DVD player with the TV remote.

>>4231341
Yes, they were. They were used in hospitals because they provided the most accurate image possible, and when you are looking at the inside of a person you can't be mixing up video artifacts and tumors.

>>4231349
Strange how history kind of repeats itself, even if we're considered more of a "niche" part of the gaming fanbase.

Orion 19" Television
Coaxial
Composite
$18

I like these types of 19" CRTs that were made in the late 90s in with a very rounded tube. They are generally of a bit higher quality than the other members of the budget CRT tribe. The photo I took of the back was too dark, but I know this type of CRT was also made for Phillips.

Spectra 52-BW 5" Black and White Television

Portable, but doesn't take batteries. I think it was marked as $10. It probably will not sell. There's no real market for this anymore, and collectors don't care about it.

Back of the Spectra.

Sanyo 32" Television
Coaxial
Composite
S-video
Component
$40

I neglected to take a photo of the sticker on the back, but this television is probably the wnd best one in the store. It isn't a Trinitron, but I bet it is still an aperture grille design. With a few tweaks to the service menu to get rid of the likely overdone overscanning and red push, and a connection to a high quality component video feed and the image out of the television should be excellent.

The best television in the store would probably be the big RCA. Even without component input my gut says it will just be a better made set with superior convergence, focus, voltage, etc that will translate to a superior image.

Back of the Sanyo.

And yes I am aware I am in the reflection of some of these images and look like a fat neckbeard because I am one.

JVC Color Video Monitor
Composite
$10

Likely has a pretty image.

Zenith 19" Television
Coaxial
$25

Just not worth it. You'd think vendors would have a look around the store and see what their competition has on offer.

Sylvania
Coaxial only
I don't remember much about this one.

Dell 15" PC Monitor.

I think this one was 15". They made these in a few sizes. Probably supports up to 1280x1024@85hz. These aren't as common as they used to be. It's possible to send 240p to these monitors using double scanning @ 120 mhz, but not all of them will display the resolution for longer than a couple of minutes before turning themselves off. On some of them the OSD will not go away. But on some others it works with no problems.

$15. Worth the risk if you want a poor man's 240p RGB monitor. And even if it doesn't work this monitor may eventually gain some early 2000s nostalgia attached to it. A good match for your future Pentium 4 box.

And that was the last of the CRT photos. I saw a couple of LCD monitors. Here is one Dell monitor that is probably either a 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 unit.

$15 is a decent price I suppose, but I can't see monitors like this having much longevity in usage.

>>4228030
>>4228039
What is the point of lying about this?

>>4229358
A set of old-ass PC multimedia speakers with a small subwoofer if I am using monitor without speakers.

Most large CRTs have pretty good speakers in them so I don't bother with them. The -really- big presentation monitors have great speakers, especially the older Mitsubishis.

>>4229475
Well, it looks like it is in very good shape. And at that size composite will still look pretty good. The older small Sharp TVs are the ones that are really collectible due to their association with the Famicom.

>>4230548
The 2935 probably has a slightly higher scanning range but they are mostly identical. You can probably rig up 1440x1080i video on these with your PC.

How good is the Sony Trinitron KV-ES34M31?
I can pick one up for $90

>>4231651
should mention that it is 90 aud, which is rougly 70 usd

>>4231651
>>4231674
it accepts component but doesn't warn about 480i only, and it also has PiP, so I'm guessing it's HD.
MiteBcool for not retro, but price is a bit high IMO.
Also 84kg...

>>4231651
Depends on what you already have. It's a trini and it's a good size. If you want to jump into the CRT scene right now there's the opportunity.

If you wait a year something better might come along. Or it might not.

>>4231432
>A set of old-ass PC multimedia speakers with a small subwoofer
I am always shopping for beige Gateway2000 speakers/subwoofer. 9/10 times they are altec lansing. I have a set hidden under my lcd in the family room.....They do quality sound. All of the altec from that era do well.

>>4231706
>>4231705
So, if that's not a good model, what is a good and affordable trinitron or a trinitron alternative?

>>4229693
I tried 320 it was too cropped to be properly playable imo. In the end I went for 384x240, 8:5, still much less squished then I'm dragging a 1x windowed version of the game from my large screen into my crt and cropping it around the HUD

>>4231743
just buy it

>>4231330
I had the 27" version of this TV. Its a decent TV. Not sure I'd pay $99 though

>>4231816
Is the KVSW292M31 a better choice?
I can get it for even cheaper for about 40 usd

>>4231394
>120 mhz
>120,000.000 fps
wew

>>4231442
>1080i
>i
Dunno about the 2935, but the 2930 has a horizontal scanning limit of 82khz, more than enough to push straight up 1080p to the monitor.

Here is a service manual for the Mitsubishi XC-2930C if anyone is interested https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5C8Zqu6QcrSMDBLTjQ4eGxrVkU/view?usp=sharing

So far I've checked item 1 on page 45, C937 has 48.8 volts so that is ok. The next thing I want to check is item 10, but I don't know where the RGB cuttoff controls are. Anyone have any idea? Are these them in the middle?

>>4231749
Have you tried adding those crt filters unto your crt? How do they look?

>>4231743
Consumer Reports reviewed many TVs in the 90s. Some libraries have them

>>4231954
On an actual CRT all the filters do is change the sharpness when on a non "clean" filter setting but the scanlines on the CRT filters just get blocked out by the real ones

where my BVM boys at?

>>4232173
I've got a dead 1988 BVM 1910

>>4232187
the guy I bought mine off of thought it was broken. said it was only black and white but that's probably because he was trying to use composite video lol.

>>4232173

>>4232201
On mine the front buttons were finicky. They'd activate by themselves and I'd have to push on them from behind to get the picture normal again.

There's a 13" BVM with slight burn in and a yellow picture labeled as "holy grail"

What has this world come to

There's a 13" BVM on ebay with slight burn in and a yellow picture labeled as "holy grail"

What has this world come to

>>4231894
oops lol

Game pictures incoming, but this was the greatest side of the road find I ever got was this 36 inch WEGA Trini. Outside of grime and one minor scratch towards the top of the screen it was in perfect condition when I found it. Old man who lives down the street lent me a dolly so I could wheel the thing back to my place, took me a solid 25 minutes to drag the fucker home but worth

>>4232887
Wtf why did I the image flip, sorry boys newfag fail on my part

>>4231406
If it's a Dell 2007fp and it's in good condition they're 1600x1200 and they're quite possibly the best 4:3 LCD that you can get your hands on. I still use them for work because I like the aspect ratio but they work amazingly well for emulation, as 240p scales 5x into 1600x1200. Colours and sharpness are great as well.

>>4232887
Still haven't found my sweetspot for video settings, but I think I'm getting there

>>4231330
>and the "good" kind of s-video connector.

There are good and bad versions of the S-video jack? Tell me more.

>>4230368
Are you saying that the signals of the two different lines in S-video can arrive out of sync?
Tell me more.

>>4229084
I went to home depot and got a nice long oak plank for around $100. Had them cut it down into 2 pieces of 60 inch length. I got 20 inch L brackets on amazon that are supposed to support up to some outrageous number of lbs. Installed everything but didn't like how the wood was bending at the edge since they are two different pieces. So that's when I installed the suspension cables to pull the wood back up. I'm totally happy with this setup now as my BVM is perfectly eye level with me when I sit in bed. Not sure what people think about it but I quite like it. Also will probably end up reusing the wood if I want to convert the setup if I want to make a nice desk.

>>4231432
I got a pair of these bose speakers for $50. Audio freaks normally shit on bose but these speakers are widely accepted as very good(and they sound great). Got the receiver off auction for $25 I believe.

you guys have probably seen my setup since i've been semi spamming it around

>>4232903
I have a Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp I'm not even using. I really don't need another LCD taking up space.

But yeah I'll probably get it now if it's supposed to be that good.

>>4221829
>>4221975
He was odd about his mods, but hey, aren't we all. The one thing he wasn't was stupid. He stripped down that 20L5 and redid the yoke and convergence, and that's not as simple as it sounds on a trinitron. He was, however, an arrogant and opinionated asshat, often wrongheaded to a fault, and that got him into trouble. If you weren't stepping on the beliefs he held without evidence and refused to be rational about, he could be quite helpful and often gave sound advice.

>>4231319
>hacking projects such as replacement tubes for arcade machines
Rgr that. Can often hack the chassis for RGB too.

>>4223417
There are exceptions that prove the rule. Certainly there are here in Australia. Admittedly those exceptions are mostly on HD sets, and without taking HD sets into account SCART is pretty rare.

>>4232968
some s-video is just composite. Usually the cables itself, especially the ones which offer both composite and s-video.

>>4227813
I've found the 100Hz european models have no lag if you turn off the processing, currently gaming on 2 100hz loewes

>>4234668
I've heard of this problem. How would I be able to tell the difference when shopping online? S-Video Cables are rare here in Europe, most of those I've seen online are the kind that also has composite.

>>4234701
buy from reputable sellers. Not sure who they are for s-video cables but someone here might. that or go official.

>>4232968
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=115632.0

A quote from Mon Mothma of the BYOAC forums. This user was always very knowledgeable about these subjects. I had another discussion on assembler games a while back I will have to dig up if I can remember my login credentials for that site.

Got my hands on a nice Toshiba CRT today. Pretty great considering it only cost me $10

Sorry about the low quality but my phone camera is shit. 1/3

>>4235078
2/3

>>4235084
3/3

Here is the model number

Thoughts?

>>4235245
faggot

This little WEGA is available for $35 locally. Are these cool?

>>4235307
Yes, get it.

>>4235307
retards buy these online for like 100 bucks.

can anyone help me ID this monitor?
$8 on CL, seller is a few pancakes short of a stack

>>4235696
looks b&w

>>4235696
It's a small black and white CCTV monitor. It probably only supports composite line-in video. Disregard it unless you are a true hoarder.

Found this Tau outside. It seems to work pretty well. Are these considered good for retro?

>S-Video Pasta http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
>Supposedly, OEM Nintendo AV and S-video cables are only downward compatible, meaning you can use a Gamecube cable on a Super Nintendo / Famicom, but not the other way around.
False

You can use any SNES, N64 or GCN Composite/S-video cable on a SNES/N64/GameCube. They all share the same Multi-Out Port.

>>4235834
Ok I just realized that I had hooked my snes this tv incorrectly. I feel retarded. Sorry for posting that eyesore.

>>4234701
Multi cable which have both a composite and an S-video output plug are likely to have this problem where they are improperly (cheaply(chinkly)) wired and thus the S-video is not true S-video and is not better than composite.

>>4235834
I had one and liked it. IIRC it was a HD tv. It worked great for 720p content.

So I just picked up a kv-27fv17, the rotation is way out but was able to be fixed using the menus but as you can see it didn't fix all of my issues. I think I'm going to have to adjust the yolk to get rid of the bowing on the edges although I'm not quite sure. Any one know what tools I'll need once I open it up?

>>4236169
Just remember to keep one hand behind your back at all times.

>>4236172
I'm not worried about getting shocked as I'm not an idiot, I've just never worked on crt tvs before. I have removed the casing to blow out dust/dirt and to look at it (not this model though) but that's about it.

>>4236185
Don't say nobody warned you.

>>4236275
>Don't say nobody warned you.
Is there an entirely safe way to discharge all potential energy? Asking for a friend....

>>4233113
I've got those same speakers, and your pic made me realize I've had them upside down this whole time (their really meant to be on their side, so I doubt it really matters).

Looking for a way to connect my PVM 8042Q to a VCR to record some game footage from RGB or this is impossible

>>4236428
You cant' directly. If you have RGB passthrough on your PVM you can connect them to an encoder for composite (or svideo if you have a high grade VCR).
The 2 best are sony CXA1645 and CXA2075. The latter is the best but only comes in SMD so it's a bit harder to work with.

>>4236437
so I couldn't hypothetically use this https://www.amazon.com/Phonetone-connector-converter-repeater-Antennas/dp/B00F4QPRY4/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00F4QPRY4&pd_rd_r=E6BZ4R7XPFHFB15Y89FY&pd_rd_w=vifzv&pd_rd_wg=q4Z4v&psc=1&refRID=E6BZ4R7XPFHFB15Y89FY and use one side to connect my SCART to BNC and the other side to use for a BNC to YPbPr?

>>4236452
well it would sorta works but the termination value would be wrong for the CXAs (although not by much honestly).

>>4236470
hmm I'll take that into consideration, thanks a bunch!

>>4218548
>Free20L5Guy

Where did he go?

>>4235053
Please go on. This is fascinating.
Now I know not to bother with S-video out on my next graphics card.

>>4235834
Looks like the one I own. If so, it's a 480p/1080i capable screen. See if you can find a remote. Also, you can set the thing to 4:3 so you don't have that god-awful stretching. Surprisingly good for the Wii/Wii U and the 360. Mine had an odd issue with sluggish reds. Very fast movement would give a smear-like effect. Looked rad on brake lights in racing games.

>>4236537
How is it for fifth gen and below?

>>4235086
Toshiba's 2000's CRT are great, I have this one from a year later

>>4236551
Ran the PS2, XBOX and GCN (with component cables) on it and they looked fine. Games that aren't widescreen compatible will obviously suffer some stretching issues unless you configure accordingly. PSX games looked good through the PS2 but that's as far back as I went on consoles. Wii emulation looked fine in 480p for 4th and 3rd gen. I imagine it may not do so well with real consoles given it's an HD Tube. I'd like to see that dude's SNES running through S-Vid and configured properly.

Really can't stress enough how nice it is for the Wii though, considering everything runs 16:9@480p.

Kinda tempted to check this one out

>>4237243
Mm mm who wouldn't be tempted to check that out (;

>>4237243
show us your pussy

I want to share my rage with you peeps. I have a few CRT tvs I take to charity events to raise money. I don't bring my personal 40 inch Sony CRT with me but I bring about 8-10 tvs on average from sizes 20 inches to 27 inches.

I find a guy selling my tv on CL. I call him and we meet up 2 days ago. I hook up a Wii with component and run the 240p test suite and holy shit this thing is perfect. Mine has the 4 corners slightly bowing but it just looks like an older bubble CRT so it is fine, Everything else on mine is perfect except the four corners. His was perfect all the way around, no wavy/bowing/convergence ANYTHING wrong.

I go home and tell him I have to wait until Labor day to pick it up. I call him earlier this morning and he said he decided to trash it since it was taking too long to sell. I drive by his house and sure enough there it is rained on since we had heavy rain sunday. I go and examine it and it looks like someone kicked it a few times and tossed rocks at it.


FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU YOU KEK Why the fuck couldn't he wait? He wanted $50 and I would have easily paid 100. We need a bigger tv and the 32 inch I have has issues and the 40 inch would be perfect as an eye catcher. Now we need to go back to using a projector.

>>4238470
You snooze u lose

>>4238475
You might need to go back to school. You clearly didn't read what was written there. I know you won't be able to understand this but I can try. YOU ARE A MORON