/vr/ - Retro Games

>>401674
The price and power of a merc isn't directly proportional with the entertainment he provides.

>>401674
already a thread here >>353754

>>401728
Ok, thanks.

old thread 404'd just as i wanted to bump it so this is now official jagged alliance thread

>>401674

Crouch or go prone (C or P respectively) whenever in a firefight, don't be afraid to spend a merc's turn running as far away from a bad situation as possible (r to run).

Always use cover - trees, rocks, cars, whatever - it doesn't restrict your line of fire if you're right up behind it and they'll catch the majority of bullets that'd otherwise ruin your merc's day.

Shoot accuracy is affected by both Marksmanship AND Dexterity.

>>401808
>alt+printscrn
>not ctrl+f5
do you even screnshots with DOSBox

>>401853

This is why Ira manages to land difficult shots even when her marksmanship is kind of shitty, incidentally. Her dex is ridiculously good.

>>401874
>>401853
no it isn't. unless you're shooting LAW.

>>401865
yes i do and unless you change the emulation type (or w/e it is), you get screenshots in 320x200. and i've been too lazy to do that

Start of with a cool group;
Your IMP Merc (CC)
Grizzly
One of the medicfags
Bobby Steroids or Buns (pretty expensive in the start).

Make sure to get the first SAM-Site EARLY, it'll save a lot of time.

Don't fucking play SCI-FI, creatures infest fucking mines and shit, pretty boring.

It's one of the best games in the world, easy.
I STILL have it installed lol.

Any suggestions on building the IMP merc?

>>401925

High Leadership.

>>401925
Don't zero any stat, not worth it.

I usually focus on dex/agility/health and train up the rest later on.

>>401925

Night Ops is best trait.

Wisdom, Dexterity, and Agility are best stats, in that order. Max them.

Don't max out marksmanship, it raises the quickest of any stat.

>>401915
>I STILL have it installed lol.
>ever uninstalling it
step up scooter

>>401925
eh, it really depends on how you want to use him. i suggest increasing physical stats to max, especially wisdom, agility, dexterity and health because they are slowest to raise.

after that, it all depends. leadership is good for training militia and talking to people in general, marksmanship if you want to have person who'll be able to shoot shit for free.

no matter how you build him, you'll always be able to get specialist on what you need from AIM, so you can't really mess it up.

>>401941
agility is better for pure shooters than dexterity.

Is there any reason to run instead of walk in JA2? I've yet to see any reason to walk.

>>402010
stamina.

>>401925
Vanilla? Put around 70 into marksmanship, all other skill values go to 35. Max out attributes, especially wisdom and agility.

>>402010
Running uses more stamina, having depleted stamina means you aim less accurately and can be knocked out easier.

>>401915
>med as starter

essential starter squad:
>leader/assertive character to interact with NPC's/RPC's
>teacher (for militia)
>someone with good stealth
>lockpicker/lockbuster/mechanic
and recruit Ira as med after you meet Miguel

>>402059
Ira also does very well as a militia trainer, though I think she isn't as good in the recent 1.13 releases.

>>401970
>agility
maybe for a melee or hand to hand fighter, or someone using stealth a lot
shooters need dexterity

>>402063
If you want to you can up the effect that her rebel status has on militia training, alternatively, boost the teaching trait.

>>402063
Ira has initially too low leadership to start training militia instantly, so you need to train her a bit

>>402069
>using attrition warfare over maneuver warfare

Equipping a Sunglasses on your helmet (1.13)...does that give you the benefit of the sunglasses? If so...why doesn't it work in conjunction with smart goggle swap?

>>402059
>>leader/assertive character to interact with NPC's/RPC's

IMP

>teacher (for militia)

Biff+Flo

>someone with good stealth

Razor

>lockpicker/lockbuster/mechanic

Gumpy

...Fine, Steroid.

>>402059
>>someone with good stealth
>essential
you should get people who can shoot first, which you don't really list.

>>402069
no. you're way overestimating what dexterity does in ranged combat. at best, it's equal for shooter as agility is. also, melee/hth fighter will benefit WAY more from than anything else.

the difference between agi and dex for shooting purposes is one increases you chance to dodge, other increases your chance to hit agile target (by same amount).

that's all. if you want dedicated marksman, action points from AGI will benefit you a lot more than DEX that he'll never use, since he won't repair/heal shit.

>>402149
>>402069
>>401970

>not maxing both

What's wrong with you people.

>>402157
you should max both for IMP of course, it's more talking about choosing higher AGI or higher DEX mercs in general now.

>new game
>kill all enemies
>kill Pacos
>talk to Fatima
so many play-throughs (or at least the start) and only now I've found this dialogue, usually it was "you had betrayed us..."

>>402260
it's actually pretty unbelievable how much dialogue jagged alliance has (this applies to all games).

hell, jagged alliance 1 has at least few thousands lines of unique voice acting (60 mercs and each of them has more at least 50-100 lines, possibly even more), "dynamic" voiced inventory (remember half life being able to count down time? well JA will tell you how many bullets left gun has and it's condition. or tell you how much money have you found).

all this in 1994. now compared this to bethesda voice acting from oblivion or skyrim (despite having infinitely bigger budget) and weep for dead industry.

I only played the first mission on DG.

Is there even an arching storyline to all of it? Or it's just a bunch of completely separate missions and some mild management in-between

with no macro stuff in between to spice things up it just didn't seem interesting

>>402365
Plus the dialogue is pretty fucking funny at times. And the characters are great. They played around with the caricatures and tropes but kept it fresh still. Just a great cast.

>>402451
obviously JA1does 'macro' stuff a lot better and DG was always more about multiplayer and the campaign is a bit tacked on, but there is a storyline in the main campaign, just not apparent after the first mission.

personally, i'm playing DG before i start legit JA1 game to play with some mercs somewhat like but i'm almost certain i won't be able to have them in my JA1 campaign for various reasons.

so yeah, DG is more of a "what happened between metavira and arulco" kind of stuff, the "macro" took a backseat (or more like a trunk i guess), but it's there.

>>402513
pretty much. i think it's a shame so many people skip JA1. not only they're missing metavira, but a lot of great mercs as well (obligatory Ivan rant). oh, and you can't say you know shit about jagged alliance until you heard Fox giggling after she stabs enemy with her "amazing dexterity"

>>402580
fuck i can't write. story is there etc, hope it's understandable.

>>402580
Yeah I think I will give it another go at some point.

I love how different the maps look from pictures I've seen. They probably quadrupled the amount of ground and tree textures from JA1. That's one thing JA1 would've benefitted from so much. The map layouts have obviously been crafted with care and love but at some point it just gets dull because it's all different shades of brown, yellow and green.

JA1 really needs a remake.

Honestly, I went into JA2 not expecting much, but after getting over the difficulty curve, I came to really enjoy it. I just really wish it had some more replay value. When it comes down to it, it really is an extremely simplistic game outside of battle. And while the fact it's barebones aside from taking more and more cities, that does nothing to detract from the experience the first time around. I don't know, it always kind of struck me as Fallout without any story, sidequests, or exploration.

i just noticed mercs in DG apparently get shittons of experience and stats increases when they return from other AIM assignments. i have to see if it applies to JA1 too (i don't think so though considering mercs' availability change by loading a game)
>pic related
what the fuck, grunty?

>>402854
> I just really wish it had some more replay value
what, jagged alliance is like, one of the most replayable game you can get, even without 1.13.

>>402805
>JA1 really needs a remake.
nobody would get it right.

>>402905
Maybe modders...you know, I'd be one happy camper if they just ported it into the JA2 engine...

>>402960
http://www.bears-pit.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/314070/JA2_1_Metavira_The_official_in.html

it looks too "mod-like" for me to play it instead of just playing jagged alliance though (dem portraits). also no idea how it handles mechanics not present/changed in JA2 (water snakes, mercs leaving with cash/mercs leaving in general, inability to hire people day1 since you're shitty nobody). 2/10 wouldn't recommend instead of playing JA1

>>402990
Dunno, maybe similarly to them not wanting to hire with you because you have a bad rep...

>>403000
i'm not sure exactly how JA2 handles bad rep, but hiring mercs and keeping them is actually pretty complex in JA1. it's not really that easy to piss off mercs in JA2, meanwhile in JA1, people will leave/refuse to get hired for several reasons (starting from you being too unknown, firing too many mercs, getting too mercs killed, or just plain sucking at your job.). people will leave if they carry some money found in battles, mercs that hate each other will even fucking kill each other. so many details that make JA games what they are, and chances of finding someone who'd bother to actually replicate all of it would be slim (oh, and we all know how back in action turned out, not that it was any surprise.)

i don't think you can find many "remade" games that make the originals obsolete, and that's counting games that have a lot smaller attention to detail than something like JA series.

>>403074
>i don't think you can find many "remade" games that make the originals obsolete, and that's counting games that have a lot smaller attention to detail than something like JA series.

Yeah, but with a turn-based game it's a lot easier. You would ideally have the near-same game mechanics with just visual/ui upgrades and maybe some optional additional gameplay stuff..

Maybe one day the JA1 source code will be released like the JA2 was.

>>402905
I really can't agree with you there at all. After playing it once, you've seen everything the game has to offer and then some.

And that's with 1.13.

>>403183

The merc interactions are the best part of JA2, and you can't possibly see them all in one playthrough.

>>403183
>playing it once with 1.13
>you've seen everything the game has to offer and then some
lol, even with this approach to the game (playing 1.13 and nothing else) where you basically rob yourself from what the game has to offer, you couldn't possibly see everything.

looks more like this type of game isn't for you really, especially since you compare it to fallout. reason to play JA is one of the best TB systems ever made with great attention to detail, well crafted world and open world you where can do whatever you like.

yes, fallout might be a better RPG (if you even count JA2 as one), but it has completely different focus than JA and comparing them is pretty bad idea (i'll still do it and say both JA1 and 2 has way more exploration than fallouts). and fallout's shitty combat is nothing to write about.

if you are a storyfag, i could see where you're coming from, but otherwise you're just full of shit.

>>403284
1.13 doesn't rob you of a thing. I'd hardly call adding improvements and extreme levels of customization an issue. Also, I don't know what definition you're using for "what the game has to offer", because there's not all that much going on in the grand scheme of things.

Actually, I enjoyed it quite a bit, and I hated Fallout. Though it's cute you can say I'm full of shit when you claim JA2's world is well crafted with great attention to detail, when it's largely barren, and what isn't barren is full of empty houses. The lack of anything to actually explore or discover is one of my major complaints, in fact. There's some nice little things like the robot and the bugs, but they're few and far between.

>>403201
The dialogue is nice, but hardly something to replay the game for alone.

>>403807
>Though it's cute you can say I'm full of shit when you claim JA2's world is well crafted with great attention to detail, when it's largely barren, and what isn't barren is full of empty houses.
and i find it cute you're saying this while praising fallout exploration.

>1.13 doesn't rob you of a thing.
well good to hear that from someone who hasn't actually played vanilla.

>The dialogue is nice, but hardly something to replay the game for alone.
yeah, apparently gameplay is no longer something you'd like to replay a game for.

Is there an easy way to change the starting traits in 113? Raven really should have marksman rather than auto weapons...

>>405251
pretty sure it's somewhere in .xml files

>>405373
So...using the xml editor...unfortunately it needs some Framework I don't have...

>>405485
do you have net framework 2.0, maybe 3.5 is needed?

>>403924
>and i find it cute you're saying this while praising fallout exploration.
Considering JA2 doesn't have any, it's a big pretty gap.

>well good to hear that from someone who hasn't actually played vanilla.
I'm not one of those retards that just downloads mods without even understanding what they do. I went over the change log with a fine toothed comb multiple times, and discussed the game with someone that had played both versions all throughout. I'm well aware of what the differences were, and nothing of value was lost.

>yeah, apparently gameplay is no longer something you'd like to replay a game for.
The battle system is very well done and enjoyable, more than good enough to play the game for. Everything else, however, is quite bare bones. I'm not saying I won't play it again in a few years, but the replay value is still quite low.

>>405485
Definitely fix it, the .ini editor is one of the biggest draws of 1.13. Once you learn where to actually find everything, you're free to tweak virtually every aspect of the game as you see fit.

>>405581
It says 4.0...

bump

Is there a way to modify the stats of weapons? I'd like to give all the pistols a bit more range.

>>407601
like answer to most modding questions, xmls are your friend.

Can't decide between playing this or PS:T tonight. I have both installed, haven't played either ('cause they're kind of daunting games, nawmean?). Help me make a choice /vr/.

>>401674
Marksmanship and teaching are the most important skills for the first missions.

I usually get Buns+Steroid right away. Both are good shots for the price (90 MRK), plus Steroid is a good mechanic and Buns is a decent medic and an expert teacher. I make my IMP merc low exp (since it's gained quickly, and I'll always have him) with high leadership, wisdom, and marksmanship. Ira is good as a mule and a medic. I would get Lynx as a fifth even if you can only hire him for a day. With a rifle, he is far more useful than two grunts with pistols.


If you're not playing 1.13, one strategy is to hire Reaper and GUS for a day and quickly recapture Drassen. Armed with rifles and kevlar armor (which you can keep after they leave), they are basically untouchable since the army has only pistols. If you're quick, you might even be able to knock out the SAM site before they leave, allowing you to bring reinforcements right into Drassen.

If you're playing 1.13, trainers are way more important, because you can call on your militia to help you take adjacent sectors of a city. Essentially you can just take one or two sectors to get loyalty above the minimum requirement, quickly raise a militia, and then take the rest of the city with zero risk to yourself. Kinda lame, but effective.

>>407989
i supposed you play a game, not play a book.

>>407601
use Match ammo and Match Sights

>>408576
>i supposed you play a game, not play a book.

u got sum fuckin nerve m8

>>409165
s... sorry

>mwf I miraculously got IoV and AR mods to run together
>mfw no face
Shit's awesome. IoV guns/items with AR maps & music.

>>410656
is there any link for complete IOV "changelog"?

So, I'm picking Raider, Raven and Hitman for my starting team. Who else has funny dialogues if they're together?

>>410802
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=013a6926eac52083&id=13A6926EAC52083!202

Don't know about complete, but these should come with a changelog...

>>411303
I thought I would try that out until I go to buy more time for Hitman at around day 30, and he refuses until Raider is gone completely. So you'll have to choose between the two later.

>>410802
I got mine from some site directory or something. I'm not even sure if i have the latest version. I can't speak chinese.

Does the game rather dislike it if you mod the traits? I changed a couple of my mercs' traits MercProfileEdit or something, and ever since I often get CTDs.

>>412724

Changing xml stuff mid game may or may not break your save.

I got drunk once, screwed around with the merc editor to create THE EXPENDABLES and I couldn't load the AIM website any more, even on a new save.

So yeah.

>>411303
this should come in handy

>>412810

>>412810

Yeah, Grizzly is racist against asians, and Doctor Q is the best, so I never take Grizzly.

>>412741
I did start a new game though...but whenever I select Raven (who I changed from auto to marksman) and want to shoot something (with Shadow's sniper rifle) whil she isn't at full action points...it crashes.

Though I better check if there was a new build, just updated my SVN but I hadn't seen a new .exe yet...

>>412810

I could have sworn that way more people hated Buzz. Weird.

>>413580
Well, there are some mod characters that don't like her...like Laura something.

>>413580
aren't you confusing buzz and buns?

>>412810
>>412819
Wouldn't this be better as a chart rather than a tree?

>>414154

It is a chart, though.

>>414154
>>414184
try this one http://ndnw.net/JA2/relationships.html

so how is arulco revisited?

and that's that.

>>414187
That's magic.

AGI is less of an issue in recent releases AP cost for actions besides moving are relative to total APs. so you dont need 100 APs to shoot the max number of times if you arent moving.

>>401925

your IMP will never be as good in combat as the top third of the merc roster, so don't try to play for that.

max strength, dex, and a couple of the utility skills like medic and mechanical. dump HP, agility and marksmanship. try to keep him out of combat and rely on mid-high priced mercs to do the bulk of the advancing and killing. start the game with someone like Ivan and make him your "main."

>>417215
Maybe if your IMPs are terrible.

>>412810
Biff's a Pussy!

>>418012

Likewise Flo.

Still, I almost always grab them as soon as they're available (or immediately, if I've set the MERC site to activate on game start). They're fantastic trainers for the price they charge.

>>417215
>max strength and dex
>dump health, agility and marksmanship
no wonder your IMP's are shitty

>max out health, wisdom
>set agility, dexterity, marksmanship around 70
>set strength to 60
>everything else to lowest non-zero
>level 2

you can lower health if you're savescumming
you get more skill points if you give yourself a disability (non-swimmer is a good pick since hardly ever there's water to swim through) or pick less than maximum available traits (if left merc with No skills, you will be able to increase him to level 3 or 4 on start and still max out a lot of stats)

>>417215
Well if you build your IMP like a goddamn SUV of course he won't be good for anything other than hauling shit arpund.

>>417215
Dat told

I love when people give their opinion and don't know what the fuck they're talking about

>>418374
>giving 1.13 tips
>using multiple imps
anyway, you should always max WIS, if you want the merc in field max DEX, AGI, health, decent strength and marksmanship.

>level 2
not much reason to do that but i don't even know how much it costs.

generally, whatever is focus of your IMP (and it can be anything really), you want physical stats that affect what you do maxed first and remaining points put into any skill, whether it's leadership/marksman/med/repair or explosives (although that one is probably a waster since you can train it very easily). these shouldn't go lower than 35.

>>418549
in his defense though doing what he suggests is perfectly viable and there's plenty of mercs who start with 90+ agi/marksmanship and higher level, which does give them significant edge against your 85 cap (and while you might say you'll catch up in marksmanship soon, that's not the case with everything else).

>>420351

>>level 2
>not much reason to do that

Your level determines whether or not you get the interrupt.

>>420472
and a lot of other things, but you'll get experience quickly enough (especially lvl1->lvl2) that it's better to save the points for something else.

you should have your IMP covered by some better/higher level mercs in the beginning anyway.

>Run up and melee somebody with Dr. Q
>He does a fucking flippy-spin kick
>HAAAAAAAAIIIIIIYYYYEEAAAIIII

>>420645
Level 2 just costs 5 points though...

>>421004
>HAAAAAAAAIIIIIIYYYYEEAAAIIII

Tourists love that stuff.

>tfw Drassen

>>421137
>tfw massive counterattacks in any city

>>421137
>>421170

>tfw drop all

whycan'tiholdalltheseguns

>>421212
yeah after i savescummed my way through that i was set for the whole game

>Take a small squad away from my main group to grab some ammo from a few sectors away
>Run into an enemy patrol, one of my mercs gets hit
>Realize I don't have anyone with a first aid kit
>Attempt to rush a medic out from my main group, watch as they slowly bleed to death from nearly full HP

I guess I learned my lesson, my last save was almost an hour ago.

>>421219
I dismissed a bleeding merc and rehired him a few days later, good as new.

>>421227
Too gamey. You should be ashamed of yourself.

>>421302
I also have about 6 custom IMPs and savescum
come on, I hate not having fun.

>>421315
Meh, I use 7 custom IMPs on insane runs (because is there really any other way to stand a chance) but I only save during real time mode.

>>402130

No you have to apply the glasses/night vision to your character 'face', the small slots to the left of the helmet slot.

Kinda shitty but that's how it works.

>>421362
It's just because the helmets (with NVG or glasses) display that they now share the traits of NVG/glasses, like +20% sight range in the dark and shit...

>>421376

I knew that. Would still be handy if the helmets acted like extra face-slots, then again radio/gasmask/glasses(NV) would be kind of OP.

I usually run Radio/Glasses(NV) with GM's taking the place of the glasses(NV) whenever we go into somewhere that has teargas/mustard gas. Seriously fuck mustard gas.

>>421405
But isn't it too late by then? I mean, mustard gas is usually distributed by grenade launchers, or worse...enemies with fucking MORTARS

>>421429

If I know I'm going into a sector that has these fuckers, then I'll switch ASAP.

That said if you get screwed by lol-mortar then you are usually screwed.

I made the mistake of walking into the prison.. I forgot it's name without a mask. teargas, teargas ERRYWHERE

>>421439
Alma or Tixa?
After a certain progression level, pretty much all enemies can have grenade launchers...

>enemy has mortar
>just launches illumination rounds
>daytime

IDGI

>>421479

Tixa is the one, though Alma has Mustard Gas for their 'prison' if I recall correctly.

My own 'method' usually consists of dropping a few stray round where I suspect enemies are, or just use sniper rifles for 'scoping' 'em out, then throwing arty (mortars) down on their skulls.

Before spending some time popping heads, usually have 2/3 people providing overwatch, 1 person watching the rear and the rest shooting baddies.

>>421439
>>421429
>>421405
i think if you have shit attached to helmet and press shift+n, it cycles the items to your "vision" slot.

basically, get glasses and nv on helmet and use the hotkey depending on day/night

>>421678
smart vision toggle actually realizes whether it's day or nighttime and acts accordingly, also, it only works for the face slots, not for helmets.

>>420351
>in his defense though doing what he suggests is perfectly viable
Sure it's viable, but it's not the only viable route, which is what the guy implied.

What is the best 1.13 version? 4870 or some SVN? Have they added new features in the newer versions? Is it stable enough to get a whole playthrough from it?

>>422717
>best
probably some 1xxx when it was still "1.13", but once you install 1.13 for more shit, might as well get the newest version.

obviously for the most stable version, just play 1.12 (or straciatella, not sure how stable that is)

>>403807
>1.13 doesn't rob you of a thing
It does. It robs you of a functioning AI. The later builds fuck it up seriously. You get soldiers running back and forth constantly without ever opening fire.

>>422949
I've had that happen a few times, so someone suggested to increase the range at which soldiers can fire from 1.1 to 2.0. It worked like a charm.

I had to stop playing this due to finals, but I picked it up again yesterday, started doing some fighting in Meduna. I'll post my progress in this thread tonight.

>>423650
Forgot to add, what's the best way to deal with tanks? I tried to use a rocket rifle with HEAP ammo on them but it did about 22 damage, I was expecting more overall from that gun on how much it was praised in some guides.
Would mortars work on them too?

>>423674
>>423650
i think best way is laws, it should take just 1-2 rockets to kill a tank. you should be able to find quite a lot of them in compound on the south road west from meduna

>>414423
Breddy gud so far; still in Drassen though - haven't had time to play. The new music tracks are catchy as fuck, too.

Alright, so I loaded up my save where I left off from last night in my attempt to take over the Meduna airport first. One of my medics (appropriately named medic) just stepped on a mine, same with another guy behind her, just because I wanted to run out of sight from a mean ass tank to the right.

I have a team of 19 or 20 mercs with me in this sector.

>>426376
I decided to use this block of c4 right beside the tank. I've never used any before, so I don't know how large this explosion will be.

>>426805
Fuck me, I didn't know it could turn around and shoot me point blank. The tank blew itself up and the game crashed.

>>426805
I managed to blow up that tank with a well placed rocket. There's another one southeast of it.

>>427129
whoops, forgot image

>>423674
LAW's (and RPG's if 1.13) work best
mortars work fine too
TNT/C4/other explosives also work but it might be tricky to sneak up to a tank

>>427146
Finally, destroyed the last tank in this area. Had to do quite a few reloads since all three of my guys with rocket launchers either missed or one of them got blown to bits. Just this one guy left, I think he'll be a punching bag.

>>427525
And that's that. What you don't see is me pumping 10 rounds of .45 glaser into his body at point blank before throwing that knife, only one of them doing 3 damage.

I think I'll continue this tomorrow.

First time playing 1.13 after a vanilla game I gave up on due to taking too long and becoming loyalty fucked.

Stealth + these new NVGs seems really, really OP. I've been seeing how far I can get just using this stealth IMP I made, and I think she's been hit maybe once or twice in taking two towns. I imagine it gets harder when the enemies start spawning with good weaponry and equipment.

>>427146
Wow, I play pretty slow I guess. I'm on day 100 with two towns, and you're at meduna at 72 days with expensive mercs.

>>427558
i'm retarded and really tired

>>427552
I thought at 72 days in I was on the slower side. I just try to avoid training my guys for too long in one place just in case my loyalty starts to fall.

>>427575
I turned off what I thought was the enrico rage loyalty drop, but I think it turned off loyalty drop altogether. Not that I'm upset about that in the least, as I enjoy this game a lot for the realistic aspects, and having the population you keep protected around the clock suddenly turn on you for taking time to actually train your men to take on the dictator cunt doesn't strike me as even slightly realistic. Either way, it certainly wasn't fun.

>>427562
> /k/

>>427562
I heard he has an indestructible skeleton

>>421069

Someone give me ideas for some crazy/difficult ways to play this game. Killing everyone in the entire game perhaps?

>>430652
no reloading at all is fun.

>>430652
start off with a single merc, with no equipment
started off with Bull. enemies dropping all equipment makes it a bit too easy so far, even if it's INSANE

>>431148

and this was supposed to be a non-contact stealth run through the sector to the mine

I don't want to take over this sector (yet)

>>431335
forgot image

>>431341
What's the plan to take on 60+ black shirts with two mercs?

>>431412
No fear

>>431412

Save scumm like your life depends on it.

>>431859
jokes on you, that run had surprisingly little re-loading

>>431412
probably going to train militia and get more RPC's

>>431412
Fists only
No militia
Broad daylight
Final Destination

Continuing from where I left off, just cleaned out the Meduna airport. Everyone's in defensive positions in the corner of the map waiting for the assault to arrive.
I just ordered a shitload of ammo, plates, some anti tank weaponry, and nightvision, which should be coming after I defend this airport from an attack.

>>435912
Surprisingly they haven't jumped at me yet and my stuff arrived. Not pictured is the 5 LAWs and ceramic plates I ordered earlier.

>>436031
All that inventory managing made me tired, I'll see what happens when they invade me another time.

>>427609
It doesn't strike you as realistic that people would get pissed that you're farting around, raking in the silver income, while the island remains under Deidranna's control? I don't blame them. You're supposed to be liberators, not mining tycoons.

I honestly don't understand how you could go 100 days and only capture two cities, anyways. What are you doing, just running the clock in the strategy map?

>>431412

>>431412
Hide in the bar, the one with no windows.

Wait, why aren't you fighting in the Drassen mine?

>>437118
By farting around, do you mean training, equipping, and paying militia to protect the town, while training my men to effectively take on a militaristic dictatorship?

>>422949
>You get soldiers running back and forth constantly without ever opening fire.
This actually decreases their odds of getting hit, believe it or not. But yeah, even with that they should be a bit more aggressive.

Damn. All these years and I had never once thought to give the priest some alcohol.

He's hilarious when he's drunk.

>>427558
Glaser is meant for unarmored targets, mate. You might as well be throwing marbles.

It took about two days, but finally a squad of 9 decided to come to the airport.

>>439315

>>439367

EAT WARCRIME, SCUM

>>439367
They had reinforcements come from the northeast, they easily could have killed one of my mercs if I didn't have an extended ear on.

>>439404
A couple 40mm tear gas and stun grenades later from that cute custom merc in the pink and we got some unconscious operators to loot.

>>439487
One of those guys was carrying an HK416, 4 c-mags, an RPG, and 5 rockets, these guys are pretty jacked. I'm going to have to hire even more mercs because I want someone to be using that SCAR and the MP7.

Every time I promise myself I won't take more than 20 minutes to gear myself up after a sector is cleared I always take way longer than that.

>>439528
That's my favorite part, actually.

So I found out how easy it is to swap your own music tracks into the game. Now I'm using HoMM3 and CoD music for intermissions and battles, respectively. So swag.

>>439946
>mute in-game music
>play battle music of choice in preferred media player
why bother replacing files?

>>440479

Because talky shit overrides music.

>>438823
I haven't played JA2 in a while but I'm pretty damn sure it doesn't take 3+ months to train a garrison for two towns.

As for training your men... get some experience in the field. Loyalty won't go down as long as you put some kind of effort into liberating the island, so get off your ass once in a while and go take a SAM base or something.

>>440879
This. You really shouldn't be having too much of a problem with the time constraints as long as you're fighting a patrol every now and then. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Enrico will send you an email right before your loyalty will drop, so you have a chance to do something before it happens.

>cleared Drassen Airport
>move to middle Drassen sector
>stealth to the bottom border
>shoot a few guys in middle sector
>leave sector once they home in
>shoot a few guys in the Mine sector
>leave sector once they home in
>shoot a few guys in middle sector
>...
found a VSS for Ira, faster to shoot, quieter and in better condition than the M24
gave Bull an AUG-A2 because the M4 kept jamming

>>441043
Take that rocket launcher and fire into a nice crowd of enemies, its sitting there just begging to be fired.

I finally had enough of being shot at in the dark should I be buying break lights or flares? Do illumination grenades/shells give off more light than those?

>>441129


>what are night vision goggles

>>441135
Most of my guys are equipped with NVG II, but it doesn't seem to make a difference since most of the time I get spotted by the enemy before I see them.

>>441154

Are you scouting with a guy who has Night Ops?

>>441108
no rockets
and BR is set to shit iirc

>>441154
depending on the map, illumination nade can be amazing in maps where you can throw them on chokepoints (sam sites).

problem with using them in open field is it's hard to make a "perimeter". that said, you can always get a night ops merc, or just skip night missions until you get better nvg

I don't know what kind of faggot do you have to be to hate Gumpy.

trying to knife Ira, eh?

>>441175
Whenever I do stealthy stuff, I use a night ops merc for it. But this is just for in general night combat scenarios.

I asked this before, but nobody answered so I'll ask again; have there been any mods made to fix the shared vision of enemies?

I'm fucking sick of trying to advance through smoke, seeing another guy in the smoke with me, and then getting headshotted by every sniper on the map. Or being in pitch black and then getting sniped from the other side of the map because one guy came close enough to see me.

>>441309
I wish that tooltip only showed what the enemies had on, instead of what they don't have equipped. I already know a guy in broad daylight isn't equipped with nightvision.

>>441350
you know, the info gets more detailed the better you see the enemy

>>441373
I know that, but it's just silly the way it reports it to you.

>>441330
Quit whining. You have shared vision for your mercs too.

by the way, middle sector is still hostile

>>441330
that's actually how sniping worked in vanilla JA2, you needed a spotter for targets that were farther than the sniper's fixed view range

Why not play Jagged Alliance:Back in Action instead? It's 3D and realtime and a thousand times better than this old shit.

>>441523

>>441523
you're not subtle enough

>>440479
I don't want to have to tab out every time the mood changes.

>>442249
>not playing windowed

>>442446

>not automating automatable actions

>>440879
>>440983

>Why aren't you playing the game how we play the game??

im having problems with crashes at certain times

it's currently freezing when the clock is at 19:59
the error in the log is "The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access."

any ideas?

>>444369
eh, there's nothing wrong with removing the "time limit" (or rather doing shit limit), but complaining it isn't realistic when it is much more than being paid for sitting on ass and training your mercs to have 100 in each stat for months.

>>444408
are you using 1.13? probably see their forums and ask there, or revert to more stable version (good luck with that lol)

>>444420
What you're really saying is you don't think in this situation it'd be an advantage to train troops to be effective. In other words, you're an idiot. But that's okay. Regardless what I say, you'll just continue shitting up the thread with baseless arguments rooted in your ignorance of the topic at hand, so keep responding, and I'll keep responding, and we'll turn it into a shitfest if you like. I really don't care.

>>444468
sorry, i responded to you for the first time there.

anyway, you're hired to kill the queen, that's your objective.

with that in mind training militia from innocent people to get slaughtered over and over again by queen's army before you make your group of supersoldiers using money from island's mines isn't "effective" for anyone except maybe you (since most of the money goes to your pocket afterall).

you don't do your job, your employer gets pissed. the locals' trust begins to fade away because you don't progress. that's all there's to it and i don't see why you have a hard time understanding it.

if you don't like it as a gameplay mechanic just disable it (and don't get me wrong, if i just want to fuck around, i'll disable it as well), but stop arguing it doesn't make sense to have it there.

>>444597
You don't seem to be as much of a dickhead as I thought, so I'll go back to discussing it.

You're training a militia of people to defend itself against the army attempting to enslave them and 'purify' their population of any imperfects.

The mercenaries aren't supersoldiers, and they're small in number. Training militia helps to even the odds against a massive, well funded army.

Your employer fled the country himself, and expects you to hire enough men to take over an entire country with around 35,000$, including purchase of supplies, and he wants you to do it in 30~ days. He can get pissed all he wants with unrealistic expectations.

>>444674
>You're training a militia of people to defend itself against the army attempting to enslave them and 'purify' their population of any imperfects.
well yes, training militia so cities are able to defend themselves is fine, but the time doesn't stop just so you can train the militia it neither takes so long to do, nor you need to focus all your mercs on it to justify not doing anything for month.

>The mercenaries aren't supersoldiers, and they're small in number. Training militia helps to even the odds against a massive, well funded army.
yes, but again, you don't need to have every single mercenary to train militia, leaving 1 or 2 mercs in city to do it doesn't stop you from doing anything else (ie: liberating the rest of the island).

>Your employer fled the country himself, and expects you to hire enough men to take over an entire country with around 35,000$, including purchase of supplies, and he wants you to do it in 30~ days. He can get pissed all he wants with unrealistic expectations.
but you don't have 30 days to do it, you just have to make some progress over time. also, your employer can be a dick, faggot or anything else, you still took the contract and it doesn't excuse you from finishing the job if you're mercenary worth his salt.

>>444369
More like
>Stop whining about the game punishing you for being a lazy coward

>>444420
it was something with the food system

i didn't want restart turned the Digestion settings to 0. no more crashes.

How is the Arulco Revisited mod?

>>447572
pretty neat
takes longer to progress, and there's really a lot of good weapon caches around the map
>go to San Mona
>near Kingpin's house there's an armory now
>even if you untrap the outer and inner doors, there's a floor tile that activates an alarm and the whole sector turns hostile
>get C4 or TNT
>blow a hole in the wall of armory
>get in through hole in wall, avoiding the alarm tile
>steal all guns
iirc, the guns were AUG-HBAR and MG140, both with sufficient ammo supplies

and it's easier to fight between the shitload of buildings than in all the open spaces from vanilla, even if the battles take longer
especially the Drassen counter-attack seems easier

>>447664
>>447675
I read that AR is designed with the option of dropping all items off. Does it get broken if you turn it on?

>>447692
not that guy but honestly, whole jagged alliance is designed with drop all off and it's not hard to figure out why if you've ever played a game with it on.

>>447769
agreed, it's easier to just shoot someone and pick his stuff up rather than trying to steal it right off him before killing

though it's amusing to see enemies with shitty pistols run to a dead comrade's body to pick up his riced out rifle

>>444797
You're right, those are indeed options for ways to play the game. They're not how I play the game.

>>448268
i don't know if you are a console player but this is a pc game, one where you're even supposed to tweak shit to suit your needs. there's no need to run around shouting "LOOK AT ME EVERYONE, THIS IS HOW I PLAY THE GAME! I CHANGED SOMETHING AM I SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE YET?". we don't care how you play your game, mod each gun to shoot dragon dildos if you want. no need to get full defensive when people discuss vanilla mechanics, even those you prefer to turn off.

>>448365
There's the autistic rage I expect. I made a comment on how I like to play. I don't care if that pisses you off. Please complain more about people talking about vidya, while I continue prodding you for entertainment.

>>448365
>i don't know if you are a console player
Stop that shit.

>>448380
>There's the autistic rage I expect.
indeed, please continue.

>>448397
your waifu is an anal slut

>>448404
my what?

>start playing JA2 after having it on GOG for half a year
>scrolling through AIM
>need a medical guy
>see "MD"
>"Michael Dawson"

It was meant to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-eKSXzw368

Digimon World 2 and Impossible Creatures, hopefully the computer I am borrowing can handle it without too much issue.

Since I had Razor as a mule and sitting in Drassen for the entirety of the game, I decided to send him on a suicide mission towards an army patrol armed with only a couple of throwing knives. They spotted me alone and I got a chance to surrender, which I only saw once before. Went through a cool cutscene with the queen interrogating him, and then shortly escaping the cell after.
I had wirecutters and could have easily left the compound but I decided to pick a fight with some guys here. A room full of rocket launchers was too good to pass up shooting a few indiscriminately.

>>451082
For a direct hit with an anti-tank weapon, 74 damage doesn't seem like lots. They probably got the best armor possible.

>>451101
Razor please, how did that rocket even go through the roof without exploding.

>>451135
Surprisingly I only had to load about 3 times to get these guys here, Razor's only level 2 and he got lots of interrupts.

>>451181
With how little health he has left I doubt that armor would do any good, and that PKM is probably going to jam on me right away, but at least its reassuring.

>>451203
I found some woodland camo in that building, so now he looks like Rambo.
I also shot that woman. My work here is done.

>>451082
>>451101
>>451135
>>451181
>>451203
>>451268
Razor doesn't surrender, he ambushes the enemy from within

>>441043
>already at Dyneema vests

Seriously though, get that latest build that automatically orders your inventory and stacks that shit.

Is there an easy way to remove rod&stick and barrel extender from the game?

>>451649
Why would you want to do that?

>>451435
Practically all 1.13 builds in the past few years do?

>>451649
Kind of related, but I just started playing this and so far I only saw the rod & spring for internal attachments. Are there any more internal attachments than that?

Also, is there any reason to keep mercs with lower weight instead of loaded near 100% all the time?

>>451690
They break the game and they are bullshit. You can't jury rig a gun like that.

>>451720
It's almost like Jagged Alliance was never supposed to be realistic

>>451720
http://www.kiddinnovativedesign.com/Guide-Rod-Spring-Kit_p_46.html

>>451792

>>447801
he'a a beast
i use him as a spotter for my sniper(Reaper) and artillery(Meltdown). Team Psycho.

a give him an energy boost, scout for a group, hit them with a grenade, snipe anyone who doesnt go down, then run in and clean up with a knife.

>>451720
step your game up.

>>452510
>This isn't even my final form!

For IMPs is it worth taking less than 3 traits for extra starting points? Also, is there a reference that lists what exactly the traits do?

>>452510
Is this 1.13 or some other mod?

>>452785
1.14

>>452708
> Also, is there a reference that lists what exactly the traits do?
if only there was an integrated functionality, where you hover above the trait name and it would show you what it does...

>>452708
Nevermind, I'm stupid, it says right in the trait tooltips

>>444597
>>444674
>>444797
>Not blitzing Arulco in 2 weeks
>laughingfox.jpg

savescum galore:

1 IMP for combat only, AIM mercs to train militia

vanilla JA2 playthrough, JA2 1.13 playthourgh, JA2 1.13+mods (AR/others). all 3 playthroughs with same IMP, "importing" the char and keeping the stats.

probably expert difficulty, possibly with some tweaks to make it a bit harder.

i... i don't think i can handle it

>>453352
>not killing queen in 2 days
step up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCq88_EXu5E

>>452785
AFS
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/288132/Alrulco_Folding_Stock_FAQ_Read.html#Post288132

it's a very realistic attatchment/LBE system with fixes to NCtH. an operator-tier cosplay mod.

God I'm getting sick of all the excessive, pointless crap being added to 1.13

>>457042
>complaining about a tons of features mod having tons of features
you might as well play vanilla

Is there any time when a melee attack would be preferable to just shooting a guy point blank? I never finished JA2, so forgive my ignorance, but I never recalled having melee be worth the trouble of specialization.

>>457187

Melee is quieter than bullets.

>>457042
Agree, we're getting to the point we're playing Sims with guns. Too much clutter that dilutes the gameplay in a negative way.

>>456814
Hmmm... I wonder if I can use this ON TOP OF cosplaydbb and AR. Though it'll probably just replace cosplay...

"Danish studio Full Control has announced that the company has signed a licensing agreement with bitComposer Games to develop and publish a new, turn-based, multiplatform game in the Jagged Alliance franchise"

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/12/full-control-to-ship-turn-based-jagged-alliance-game/

>>457407

>multiplatform

Welp.

>>457187
If you knock a guy out, he'll stay down and you can steal his stuff (if he dies and you don't have drop all, you'll miss out on a lot of shit). Bullets aren't hard to come by, but when you need them, you fucking need them.

>>457407
>Multiplatform

Plunder of the century confirmed.

>>457407
>multiplat

>>457407
One word and the entirety of my interest is gone.

>>457420
>>457770
>>460069
>>460280
M-muh PC gaming master race!

>>460331
It's not even that. Some games simply aren't meant for consoles. And this is one of them.

>>460331

>implying it's even remotely possible to port the complexity of even vanilla JA2 to consoles

This is basically exactly the wrong kind of game to make multiplat. You need a goddamn mouse to play JA2.

>>460684
>This is basically exactly the wrong kind of game to make multiplat. You need a goddamn mouse to play JA2.
No, you don't, and you're a fucking retard. You can play it just fine with a controller.

>>460726

...Nah, I'm not falling for it.

>>460740
Falling for what? Please tell me how the control scheme couldn't be adapted? You realize that games like XCOM have been released on consoles, right? And that there are many tactical jRPGs on consoles too?

The problem isn't in the control system, the problem is that console games are largely made for retards.

>>460805

>You realize that games like XCOM have been released on consoles, right?

Yeah, I'm completely aware of what they did to XCOM.

That's sort of the point.

>>460828
What did they do to it? It was identical to the PC version.

JA on a console would be flimsy as fuck, especially when sneaking around enemies

this game often needs micro'ing, and to do that efficiently you need a mouse and keyboard

>>460843
Does it have the difficulty bug too?

>>460843

I'm not talking about the straight port, I'm talking about what they did to Enemy Unknown.

And XCOM is nowhere near as complicated as JA2 vanilla, anyway.

>>460856
Why? Literally every single thing that you do in JA2 (including all the 1.13 additions) can be done with decently designed menus.

JA2 as such has a rather clunky UI on the PC that could've been done much more efficiently and you're probably thinking in terms of "oh right I need 10 shortcuts for this simple action on the keyboard, how oh how would I do it with only a few buttons".

Nothing that can't be done with context menus.

>>460876
>I'm not talking about the straight port, I'm talking about what they did to Enemy Unknown.
What did they do to it? This perhaps?

>The problem isn't in the control system, the problem is that console games are largely made for retards.
See my point now?

>>460897

>See my point now?

...No, because your example is far less complicated than JA2.

>>460883
>Why? Literally every single thing that you do in JA2 (including all the 1.13 additions) can be done with decently designed menus.
no, it can't.

>>460935
Ok, what can't?

>>460883

>oh right I need 10 shortcuts for this simple action on the keyboard

Actual what.

I might need ten different shortcuts to perform a sequence of events, but I have no idea what else you could be referring to.

>>460926
Are you one of those retards who defend the autistic lack of an interface in Dwarf Fortress with "trololo scrubz0r u so bawd u dun even askie" when it's a perfectly legitimate complaint and it would just be Sims With Dwarves if it actually had an UI?

>>460948
I have no idea what you could be referring to either.

>>460951

The interface is perfectly workable in DF. Literally every action that you can take at any given moment is listed on the side of the fucking window and you're told what you need to press to do it.

>>460938
>micro with controller
>micro with menus

>>460935
Did you ever make an AutoHotkey script for any game? Even in its present state (with its rather clunky menus and shortcuts), you can make an AutoHotkey+Xpadder script that does absolutely everything in JA2 with a 360 gamepad. It's completely pointless of course, but also completely possible.

>>460963
Thanks for outing yourself, care to put a trip on so I can ignore you?

>>460967
I'm not seeing a list of specific actions that can't be performed, you'll have to elaborate a bit.

>>460981

>implying I'm wrong

Your problem with DF isn't that the interface is broken, it's the game is complex as fuck and parts of the system don't work as advertised. But go ahead, keep blaming something which actually does work well.

>>460976
>autohotkey
beyond faggot

>>460991

The point isn't that it's impossible, the point is that it'll be such a goddamn pain in the ass as to make the exercise pointless.

>>460991
>please hold my hand and show me exactly
typical consolefag

>>460993
>it's the game is complex as fuck
Not really, it's just obscure and complicated.

>>461020

Fuck it, I don't even care.

It doesn't even matter anyway, it's going to be a dumbed down piece of streamlined shit and you're going to lap it up regardless.

>>461030
>it's going to be a dumbed down piece of streamlined shit and you're going to lap it up regardless.
Wait, why would I do that again? Because I'm claiming that something can be done, but still won't for entirely different reasons than you're claiming?

Because I fully know it's going to be a retarded game for retards, just like Back in Action was, just like the new XCOM was, and so on. It's going to be utter fucking shit.

But it's not because of "technical constraints", that's just a bullshit excuse.

>>452510
>11kg

There are people here seriously arguing that a JA game designed around a controller would be good. This game has intricate micromanaging both in and out of combat, half the game is practically just that.

Playtesters (AKA: Retards) will find any equipment management to be either too hard, or take too long, thus developers minimizing things like armor types, ammo types, and even weapons.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>461160
>Playtesters (AKA: Retards)
And again my point is proven by someone who believes he's doing otherwise.

>>461087
>new xcom
>shit
Hahaha

>>461201

Compared to UFO Defense? Yeah, it is.

Strip off the XCOM name and it's a perfectly servicable squad based strategy game, but literally the only thing it does better than UFO Defense is it's prettier.

guys scope is a pretty cool guy eh.

Night Ops sniper and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>461334
>Scope
>Guy
Boy do I have some news for you.

>>461345
Scope is a reverse trap.

>>461334
>>461345
>>461361
So are there really any gay/trans mercs in this game? I just started this and only looked at a few of the merc profiles.

>>461408
There's an NPC bulldyke in San Mona. JA1 had two women that married by the time JA2 starts.

>>441330
> all these fucking enemy snipers
1. reduce the number of attachments enemies get for their guns. attachments that come with the weapon will still be there, but there will be less chance of a bipod spawning on the gun.
2. reduce the number of enemies with traits. this reduces the number of enemies that get the marksman trait, and thus reduces the number of sniper rifles
3. reduce the maximum progress level to 80 or even just 70 (coolness = progress/10) this way only regulars and elite enemies get access to the better sniper rifles. (SRs appear at around 70 progress)
4. modify the enemy equipment list to have fewer or any sniper rifles at all

>>457407
The only way to make a "next-gen" multi plat sequel would be ARMA style just a huge map that you can run around on with a squad.

Honestly I would love just an ARMA2 JA mod. players would be IMPs, buy mercs from menu, take over towns. there are already mods like this just needs models and sounds

>>460843
the music was better.

>>461408
Stella, Mouse, Bud and Bob were recently added. Also i kinda always thought Spider and Vicki/Raven had a thing. Raven and Raider are swingers but only with chicks

>>461685
Except ARMA engine doesn't support half of the things JA2 does.

>>461723
Wow, Bioware Social leaked into JA2 general?

>>461408
Based on the relationship chart, I thought that Buns liked Sidney but he was unrelentingly gay for Stephen. I've never hired those two as a result.

can anyone confirm/deny?

>>461408
>>461431
don't forget the flamboyant tattoo artist in San Mona (WILD PEACOCK on your left buttock) who wants to own a leather shop, and will give you TEN THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS when you hand over the deed to him, that you got from the completed "Rescue Maria from The Shady Lady" quest.

Always do that fucking quest at the start of the game, and in no time at all $10k. Fucking awesome, because you can then go immediately south east and buy the Hummer from the man at the service station on the western outskirt of Balime.
It's like... Like it was designed that way.

>>461764

what is that quest?

>>461740
JA2 1.12 didn't "support" a lot. everything is XMLs. the Apocalypse mod for ARMA2 is taking over an island town by town, recruiting troops from a menu and buying/looting guns. The only thing it lacks is a essentially Troop Pack of JA mercs.

granted it's not story driven but who still plays JA2 for the story?

>>461785
>JA2 1.12 didn't "support" a lot.
Except even vanilla had more stances and more inventory management and more things your mercs could do than in ARMA.

>>461764
I split into two teams one to san mona, one to drassen. san mona team does all the quests (leather shop/boxing). drassen team does the airport and mine, then get skyrider and do the SAM, then chopper as far south and get the hummer and do Balime. get the chalice. other team does west SAM and chitzena and the tourists. $47000 plus whatever you sell to Tony on easier difficulties you can do that in a day.

>>461819
Prone, Crouch, Stand - Check
Uniform boxes for soldier inventory - Check

i guess you don't know what you're talking about

>>461784
The north east block of San Mona has a leather shop with a guy in it. He tries to sell you a Kevlar+leather jacket (for 950 fucking dollars) but if you refuse and talk to him again he'll say his sister Maria was taken by Kingpin's men and forced to work as a prostitute in the Shady Lady, which is in San Mona's north center tile.

Go in the front of the shady lady, talk to the hostess behind the desk, and go through the door. There's a break room with a key in it, and this key opens the back door. Be aware there IS a patrol inside the building, who will raise the alarm if you're seen inside that room. So when he's gone, walk inside and take the key and get out of that room. At the end of the hall is Maria's room. talk to her. once the hallway is clear of the patrol, bring maria out and to the back door. use the key on the door that leads outside; if you don't the alarm will sound. walk her back to the leather shop.

reward: 1 deed which can be exchanged for $10k and the Kevlar+leather jacket that was being offered to you previously. (if you're playing 1.13 mod with covert ops, the jacket won't raise suspicion, even if you treat it with compound 18, since it has no camo value)

>>461872
I guess you don't either.

>>461880
oh, and if for some reason you don't get the conversation about maria, it's because he doesn't trust you enough. you probably touched something you shouldn't have (greyed out items on the map inventory page) so go to drassen and free the children from the sweatshop in the center city map tile:
either by forcing the owner to leave by intimidation or talking her out of it. (super fucking high leadership required) ... or just kill her.

doing any of that will raise the trust level for you all over alruco.

>>461883
www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=16901
this is the mod, im talking about. I typically play PMC vs. and it's like playing JA2 as a FPS/RTS hybrid. also the named PMC mercs do have some interaction speech with each other from the campaign.

It's just not a commercial game.

>>461918
it's leadership, use fox

>>461943
if you have ARMA2 and like JA2 try it, it's not worth buying for it, but it's offline so whatever.

For a modded merc, spooky is pretty awesome. Shame he didn't get added to 1.13

Time to collect some Charlie ear.

He's in the sog vietnam and AIMNAS mods, maybe more.

Don't mess with the vest, scooter!

>>462036
Fine, you get to wear a clunky-ass EOD suit then.

>>461723
>Stella, Mouse, Bud and Bob were recently added.
wait, what? they were (except mouse) in JA since jagged alliance 1

>>402513
I'm only a week late but holy shit, it's Kenichi Smith.

Is it weird that I kinda want to start a playthrough with only "big" body-type mercs?

Doomguy (IMP), Bull, Grizzly, Wolf, Nails, and Bubba

Then eventually Gus, Stogie, Magic, and Scully when I can afford them

>>461317
>Reboot of old series isn't a 1:1 HD release
>Autism rampant

>>462542
hehe toplel eh dyel mate lelele

>>462676
w0t

>>462536
Get Brain too. His personality and tone of voice really creeps me out.

>>462542
>Reboot of a 20-year old game contains approximately 10% of the gameplay elements of the original
>Having this low standards

>>463468
>Gets analpained at multiple people in thread for liking reboots
>Thinks everyone else should be autistic too

>>463489
Enjoy your casualized shit.

>>463853
>'enjoy your casualized shit'
>Edgy teenager mad at the world because he gets beaten up in gym class
>Can't even enjoy vidya anymore

>>463867
>implying I'm a teenager
>implying I ever had gym class
>implying I can't enjoy superior retro games
gb2 >>>/v/

>>463867
>>463903
Just fuck already.

>>463903
>Didn't take a gym course in high school
>Probably got made fun of by the teacher for being unable to do a single pull-up
>Go to >>>/v/
>Do not pass >>>/vg/
>Do not collect vidya

>>463950
>implying PE wasn't track, field and other sports
>implying everyone would need validation from teachers as you needed
>implying you didn't suck yourteacher's cock in the steamy baths of your school
gb2 >>>/hm/

>>463903
I always find these images hilarious

>>463982
>Implying you know the contents of PE, being a plebian outcast

>>464004
>implying I care what a faggot believes PE is
gb2 >>>/lgbt/

>>464027

Seems like this retro board thing worked out well for us

h... here i go

>>465534
Jesus, I forgot what the vanilla menus even looked like.

>>465534
>Expert
>Save anytime
>implying this doesn't degenerate into save-scumming by 3rd city

>>465717
but i am a degenerate savescummer, i only ever play with solo IMP and recruit AIM mercs to train militia

>>465743
>solo IMP
>missing out all the genius dialogue and inter-merc relations

>>466142
i know... i just can't force myself to use a team and have to play JA1 everytime i want to.

well, maybe some day.

>>466152
Fidel's always a favorite
Get shovel!

Ah JA2, I play through it every 1-2 years.
Currently playing Arulco Revisited with JA1 Mercs mod.

>>466289

>>466289

>JA1 Mercs mod

Google and Bear Pit have turned up nothing for me, think you could help a brother out and link me up with this bad boy? I really miss some of the old crew.

>>466314
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/298288/1.html

I have no idea what I'm doing.

>made one custom merc with max leadership and wisdom
>hired MD, Bull, Barry, and Fox
>just beat first mission with no casualties

I have a feeling things are going to get messy very soon.

>>466431
>hires two medics
>first recruit-able character is a medic too
over the line.

>>466386

Seriously made my day, man. I didn't even know this existed, thanks a bunch.

>>466514
I just got to that part. Fuuuuuuck.

Now that I've gotten a good feel for the game, I'm going back and doing it over again.

>>466431
It's not too late to start over, trust me, I did something similar and restarted.

Get your IMP merc with at least 75 marksmanship, high wisdom, and I guess around 60 leadership, which is useful for training your militia once you capture towns, since earlier cheaper mercs tend to have lower leadership.
Make another IMP merc as a mechanic, pump up that mechanical skill, high wisdom (good for anyone really, affects how fast other skills increase, and wisdom is super hard to gain), and dexterity.
Keep Fox and get Hitman, he's a pretty cool merc, maybe get Igor too, then build another IMP merc whenever you want to do anything with.

1 down, 18 to go
good thing I found all those rags earlier

>multiple IMP mercs

>>466607
Also something very important, there are wirecutters in a container somewhere in Omerta, if none of your mercs have a pair, get them for when you assault the Drassen airport, so you can enter in from the north, and cut the fence and not be shot to hell at the main entrance.

>>466628

>not playing on Insanity with all counterattacks turned on

>>466638

They're not always in that house. I've had just canteens and a first aid kit more times than I can count.

>>466642
>not playing INSANE with a single bottom-row AIM merc as starter
though I'm fucked, had to punch Fatima because she was stuck
I could deliver the letter and recruit Ira but after trying to enter the hide-out again I just get attacked by the basement dwellers

considering starting over with AR and drop-all turned off

>>466642
>turn up difficulty
>practically cheat anyways

>>466665
Its not like you'll need the rebels, you could try finding Hamous to help out.

only one enemy missing
probably the scaredy cat that got shot in the head by Bull and ran away in panic

>>466665

AR?

now to snipe the fags without gas masks that try to run though the mustard gas

>>466831
Arulco Revisited

had to save-scum a bit

>>466802
>1.13 AI in a nutshell

>>466964
in any of the recent revisions they retreat.
update your game.

>28 December, 2011 (Build: 4870)
>current build is 6006 released yesterday

Where can I download this game? Do I have to pay for it?

>>467261

You CAN pay for it, but the developers are kaput. Otherwise, there's probably a bay which holds the answer.

>>467261
The usual places. And maybe.

>>467290
>>467292
How do I identify the newest version on said usual places? This game looks good

>>467308

The newest version is 1.12.

For once, I agree with Ira.

>>401674
The game is meant to be played several times. So don't get discouraged if you don't get a 'perfect built' the very first time. It's an RPG, so play the way you want. Also don't get discouraged when you get your ass handed early on. Shits hard but rewarding. Also non English versions are good too, if you speak other languages (German version is stellar)

>>467605
Oi oi oi, she has excellent dexterity. Bring her marksmanship up over a few fights and she's damn good.