/vr/ - Retro Games

revealed*

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

300 MINUTES OF /vr/
-Managed by 300manager !Os4LYDp5eQ
-Speedmapping session allegedly extended to Sunday the 20th
-Rules can be found here
->>/vr/thread/4172380#p4173453

QUMP
-We're still waiting
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone
-Looking into replacing or removing outdated resources in the OP, need feedback
-Looking for more unique images to start each thread with

=== NEWS ===

[8-18] Anon provides Basilisk II quickie
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bxm8qv3ObDeLY1ZkMVYwdUYxZGs?usp=sharing

[8-18] Quake Champions to have early access release on the 22nd, Doomguy announced as playable
https://bethesda.net/en/article/TjBBCfxxymoAECG06kwaq/quake-champions-early-access

[8-16] Anon release; version 1 of 'Realm of Suffering'
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=98588592927462321331

[8-16] Lilith RC2 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94302-lilithpk3-release-candidate-2/?do=findComment&comment=1783711

[8-15] Anon uploads a mod that replaces Pain Elementals with Cacodemons
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=82313852646081260589

[8-14] Juvenile Power Fantasy updated to v0.6
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57092

[8-14] 'Devil Worms' uploaded to Realm667
http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/beastiary-mainmenu-136-69621/other-style/1957-devil-worms#preview

[8-12] /arena/ dumps QC comic about Ranger
-https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/184989108/#185518108
-https://www.anonfiles.cc/file/a13aeb4261c8448c0e0a1a246d30deec

[8-12] High Noon Drifter 1.1; adds Heretic and Chex Quest support
>>/vr/thread/4182198#p4183936

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=== PROTIP ===

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>>4199736

New DOOM 2 world record - 18:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpAhbTv5LU

The Wolf3D skip is not needed anymore, RIP.

>>4199286
Link? Interested in how to make that wall raising up effect.

Xth for Episode Replacements.

6th for comfy demon slaying.

>>4199286
Wizardry devs are running out of ideas.

>>4199750
Source ports are allowed for speedruns now?

>>4199735
JUST MADE THIS WALLPAPER

>Space Shadow
>NES
>1989
>controlled with a light gun
>had automatic fire on the NES, only light gun on the system that was capable of this
>had fucking RUMBLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlR_Eqtnys4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvpiexzG8fA

>>4199781

Only if you use the demo to output a video of higher quality.

You can still download the demo if you want to double check :^)

>>4199786
this game looks very hard to navigate

>>4199754

>>4199750
I wonder if this is down to the apparently recently discovered trick to activate switches through just about anything over a much further distance than previously thought possible.

How important is monster infighting to you as a feature?

Do you make frequent, intentional use of monster infighting, or do you see it as an immersive gimmick?

>>4199807
Almost obligatory on slaughtermaps.

>>4199806

That's exactly what happened.

Looper, Zero-Master and other started discovering other levels that could be shortened using that trick.

Goddamn, stained glass textures are fucking hard to make. Everything keeps ending up too uniform.

>>4199807
It's a minor mechanic that adds a lot of depth and new ways to approach combat.

What are some games you'd like to see gameplay mods based off of? Or even recreated as much as possible within the engine.

>>4199828
I'd like to see more new ideas and less mods "inspired by" shit.

>These hellkights

But why?

>>4199828
i'd love to see something based off of wolfenstein the new order, or old blood. kriegsland is pretty close to that but i'm not a fan of the enemy roster or a lot of the weapon sprites

>>4199807
I don't use it all the time, but if I see a good opening for it I'll gladly take it, because it's really such a fun feature.

Get some mooks to hit each other so they get into a bitchfit with each other, watch it unfold, or close the door and just listen to it happen.
It never stops being fun for me.
More than once, infighting has saved my bacon, where mooks partially wore down and distracted a Cyberdemon as it was chasing me through a courtyard.

>>4199807
In most cases it's a minor luxury to have while fighting that usually happens by chance as a result of avoiding attacks or just moving around quickly, but it's also very useful if you happen to be low on ammo. I usually don't actively try to start in-fighting unless I'm in an open area (which makes kiting and shot-leading easier) or if there's a high-tier enemy with low-tiers surrounding it (like a mancubus with some imps around it). It's a small detail that can have a lot of impact on gameplay, and it's a fun addition that can lead to some entertaining moments.

>>4199840
Oh yeah, and in some cases it can be very useful like when a group of barons slaughter a cyberdemon, or when you run through a room and close the door behind you while enemies kill each other left and right. I also enjoy watching enemies in-fight after I die, if one of them happened to piss off another. It can go on for quite a while sometimes.

>>4199831
that protip killed me, what is this

>>4199781
yes. requiring people to speedrun in a dosbox window is unnecessarily tedious.

>>4199832
imo i really hope The New Colossus allows mods, the weak weapon variety is fuckin' killing me.

Anyone know of any .wads that increase the difficulty of Chex Quest while keeping it vanilla? Even Nightmare's pretty easy... I mean, it IS a tie-in for kids, but whatever.

>>4199871
It probably won't knowing Bethesda. Its weird because mods are a major selling point of the elder scrolls and fallout games.

>>4199828
Strafe, mostly to take the piss out of that bag of arse.

>>4199884
Man I'm so upset that game ended up being shit. The aesthetic of the game is great, and I think the core gameplay mechanics are fun, but quake-like and rogue-like just don't mesh together at all.

>>4199878
It might be because Bethesda's publishing isn't breathing down Bethesda's developing wing - they give their own personnel carte blanche because they know those franchises will sell regardless and I /think/ their big names like Todd Howard are kind of their marketers? They also had that big controversy and lawsuit over Zenimax fucking their founder and they may not want to risk it with their own crew, but a studio under them is easier to can and control.

>>4199860
Juvenile Power Fantasy

>>4199884
>>4199891
I don't mind the roguelike random mapping, since it works for OBLIGE and Immortal Redneck, but my big issue is the lack of weapon and monster variety.

There's also the bugs...

If anything, DUSK is probably what you're looking for - same aesthetic, but the gameplay's much closer to 90s FPS.

>>4199895
It's funny that you can get a better experience with Oblige and whichever game plus a randomish weapon mod than you get with Strafe.

Hell you could probably still have a better experience if you generated some maps with Slige.

>>4199895
My issue isn't really the random maps but that the roguelike permadeath element kind of discourages the fast paced high risk gameplay of games like quake and doom, if you die it's game over, so the best tactic for survival is to funnel enemies into the room and pop them one by one instead of jumping all over the place and shit like you would in quake.

I have been playing Dusk though, and it's very fun.

>>4199913
See, it asspains me because Immortal Redneck uses pre-generated rooms and go-go double-jump movement to hew it really close to Quake and DooM so you don't get bogged down in taking cover (on top of enemies not doing insane damage until later) whereas in Strafe, all I do is whore the Railgun and hang back and snipe everything. Heck, DooMRL faithfully translated the gameplay to a freakin' flat grid!

>>4199903
I still insist AEOD/DooMRL are better games than Borderlands could ever hope to be.

>>4199913
>Dusk
I feel like the one area they could really improve in this is the enemy design. The visuals for enemies are fairly generic and, more irritatingly, they seem to shoot projectiles that are just a bit too fast to encourage open-field fighting. The combat to me revolves more around stunlocking and cover than something like doom's dodging and aiming. Also the levels could be a bit longer but whatever.

Overall though, one of the best FPS of the style in years.

>>4199913
>but that the roguelike permadeath element kind of discourages the fast paced high risk gameplay of games like quake and doom
Which is kind of bizarre since it could have so easily been done in a way that encourages you to play that way without ditching the roguelike mechanics.

What didn't help one bit were the shit weapons, terrible AI and bad level pieces that at least for the first zone meant you almost always was backing up while shooting enemies.

Strafe got rid of the strafing in the title, you barely did any in the gameplay.

>>4199918
I get on with Complex Doom and LegenDoom more than DRLA but you're not really wrong about the Borderlands bit.

It's a shame because BL1 and to an extent BL2 had some interesting legendary weapon design and effects but it was hampered by retarded bullet sponges and shite meme writing by a cuck.

>>4199921
>terrible AI

It isn't a 90s FPS without shit AI, anon - I think the shitty enemy variety was a bigger deal - all it resulted was in L4D-stuck-in-molasses rushes, broken up by the occasional firearms guy.

Which brings me to...

>>4199920
Agreed. The KKK Imp-equivalents are super Goddamn boring - same with what I assume are Hellknight and Baron of Hell replacements (the Scarecrows and Witches). They don't have interesting means of attack, they're more or less bullet sponges and annoying close-rangers, and they don't have any special tactics that make you change weapons or style, such as Cacodemons, Oozes, Fiends, Shamblers, etc.

I think AEOD may have ruined me on monster variety... but even so, shit like trying to move constantly as Strogg and the moving floor trap from ROTT chase you while a Catwoman teleports around the room was interesting.

I really hope the mod scene will be good. Fighting rednecks as Sarge or Sorlag while dodging demons.

Also, cows? Really?

>>4199929
He only did the writing for BL2. Memes aside I thought he did a better job than the writers of the first game. The story of BL1 was so bland and forgettable..

>>4199935
Oh, and adding on to this, the enemies vary wildly between 'dying in three pokes from my pistols' and 'dying after fifty fucking Riveter shots" - I can get that they're not trying to go for Serious-Sam-style spam-with-irritating-bullet-sponges, but at the same time, even Quake 1's Fiends and Orkz' spacing and HPs made them a challenge, even on Normal.

>>4199935
>>4199941
Yeah what they really need is enemy variety, not just in visuals but actual mechanics. Right now they've effectively got "Chainsaw dude", "Annoying Rat", and 3-4 variants of "Thing that looks at you and shoots" with varying health pools from "So weak it's 100% ineffective" to "Holy fucking shit why won't it die". Even Doom 1's roster was better. I'm sure the levels would feel a lot better if I wants just dual-shottying everything that isn't a scarecrow/witch, who I just rivet.

>>4199929
>>4199937
What's worse is that the lack of story in BL1 came about because Gearbox basically decided to go with the cartoon style they had in the concept art over the finalized design - it was bad enough that it actually got one of the writers to quit the video game industry altogether.

Also, as usual, shit enemy variety, shit weapon variety, shit movement - come to think of it, not too far off from Strafe.

>>4199943
Speaking of which, I feel like they could buff the dual shotties' range into being more like DooM's default shotgun. And, yeah - there's also the fact that the enemy variety comes in super slowly.

I honestly hope there's a stronger version of the cows in the end... and, honestly, I hope there's cosmetic variations, like in They Hunger, or at least more types, even if they're redundant.

Yes, I'm secretly hoping for Turok Velociraptors

>>4199946
Didn't they straight up steal the art style from some indie animated short movie? It was gonna be realistic at first then they changed it last minute.

>>4199920
>The combat to me revolves more around stunlocking and cover than something like doom's dodging and aiming.

Please don't pretend Doom didn't have its share of cover based moments. Hitscanners are very much a thing in Doom.

>>4199956
That doesn't change the point that Dusk has a lot of cover-taking for a game where everything shoots real projectiles.

Does anyone have the image of Doom (Doom 2 I think?) on an iMac G3 with "no reason to upgrade" on it?

Here's a hot pocket for your web zone in exchange

>Dusk copies Quake 1's level design and software-rendered look fairly well.
>Enemies are copies of Doom 1's dull as shit enemies instead of a mix of Doom 2 and Quake 1's more interesting enemies.

>>4199962
>Dusk copies Quake 1's level design
Not even close to as good, the secrets are obvious and the levels don't have nearly the proper flow to them. The rendering, however, looks incredible.

>>4199957
I wasn't arguing against that. I just flat out hate when people act like Doom didn't involve any form of cover based gameplay, when it in fact did.

>>4199895
I actually liked Strafe's disposable guns, especially past Icarus you got some fun ones and the feature becomes the highlight of a wrench run. But beyond that the primary/secondary fire mode modifiers for the main gun ended up underwhelming as hell since most of them were either direct upgrades or pointless, Railgun isn't bad early in but probably got shafted the hardest in the lategame when MG got overpowered explosive flechettes and the shotgun got a triple grenade launcher that can kill the boss in record time. Secondaries in general were mostly dogshit and poorly implemented with how they chew through so much ammo in a magazine, often forcing a reload that discards ammo that's otherwise relatively easy to maintain if you remember to look into monster closets.

What's also with the disdain towards hitscan enemies in even vaguely retro-inspired FPS games in the past several years?

>>4199965

Well fuck, there goes one of my main hopes for it.

>>4199956
>>4199957
Eh, even Quake had a fair amount of dodge-the-Orc-grenade-and-Fiend-anger.

I wonder if the author was trying to avoid the hate for hitscanners and gunners in DooM 2 and various custom maps...

>>4199954
iirc the indie animated movie actually IS their original trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZv9fEY_co

>>4199970
That's one of my butthurt things over Strafe - I'd actually really prefer a variety of weapons instead of having to find a weapon upgrade terminal and hoping to God it's not a boring piece of shit. I fucking hate it when games restrict us to one or two weapons (looking at you, Killzone: Shadow Fall and Halo clones and Bioshock Infinite). The disposables were cool, but I'd prefer a traditional ammo system.

I liked my gas-grenade shotgun. Too bad I can't pair it with another primary.

>>4199972
Don't worry, there's a few that are obvious, but the rest are pretty well hidden - kinda like how a bunch of secrets in DooM 1 and 2's early game were obvious, but got harder and harder as you went one.

>>4199982
>but the rest are pretty well hidden
I dunno, I didn't have much trouble finding any of them, just a few of the more obscure switch ones.

>>4199980
This is what I was talking about
https://youtu.be/OmeP1YkaeTo

>>4199962
>Dusk copies Quake 1's level design
No way, Jose.

>and software-rendered look fairly well.
Somewhat, if you ignore the blatant disregard for the id-standard "one texture pixel equals one map unit" and enemies looking like a bad Darkplaces texture mod, but it's definitely closer to Quake 2 than Quake 1 with the COLORED LIGHTING VOMITED ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE. Seriously, did the devs never hear of a thing called subtlety? You can make a goddamn farmhouse without pasting neon-blue lights on every wall! It isn't difficult!

>>4199962
Dusk's level design reminds me more of Redneck Rampage more than anything.

does dusk have palette limitations or did they do 'retro textures' by just downscaling and then upscaling with nearest neighbor like everyone else does?

>>4199987
psst there's an option to change the rendering, lighting, and coloring to modes that don't rip off Quake 1 and Blood

>>4199786
Is this a motion sickness simulator?

anyone know how to get zandronum configured to run MM8BDM on linux? i put the iwads and pk3 where all the other wads usually go but zandronum and doomseeker both don't recognize them.

>>4199994
It's a bit of both - there's an option to choke the palette into something more like Quake, and there's an option to make the coloring more vivid.

>>4199986
Holy fuck, I've never hated nu-Gearbox as much as I have right now. Come back, Gearbox-that-made-Opposing-Force!!

>>4199170
>change viewheight in mod I'm working on so you're face to face with the enemies
>It fucks up if sprite clipping is on in GL mode

>>4199997
I think you need to use command line parameters to load megagame.wad as an IWAD and the mm8bdm pk3 as a PWAD.

>>4199935
>It isn't a 90s FPS without shit AI, anon
Practically everything wobbled up to you and tried to melee or do contact damage.

The things that didn't usually were enemies that couldn't move at all.

Even in the 90s it wasn't difficult to have enemies that had more than one method of attack.
>>4199937
No he at least did the pre-sequel as well.

What's the last GZDoom SVN that doesn't fuck over the menudef thing? I keep getting fatal crashes with some mods and maybe it;s because i'm using the last official release

Project idea:

>More Perfect Hatred
>Create a map within 6 hours from midnight to 6 AM

>>4200017
or 6PM to midnight.
or combine the both and call it from dusk till dawn or something.

>>4199962
>Doom 1's dull as shit enemies
Please do not use my waifu's likeness to convey such trash opinions.

>>4200017
>elaborate
>time constraints are so old nowand one that fucks with my sleeping schedule = nah man
Instead, why not:
>Heretic/Hexen mapping
>Vanilla/Boom+ compat
>2/3 enemy types in a level
>linedef/sector limits
>area limits
>

>>4200026
Have you ever made a map and hid her in there as a secret?

No?

How can you even claim to love her then you miserable wretch!

>>4200028
>>4200024
It was just a stray idea.

>>4199935
>It isn't a 90s FPS without shit AI, anon
What did he mean by this?

>>4200030
Actually she has been in .wads I have worked on.

>>4200010
i tried that and keep getting a script error on load

google is hinting that i have to download zandronum 3.0 and build from source REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4200031
Probably the only 90s (even then, not exactly 90s) game with good AI would be Far Cry 1. Otherwise, 90s enemies didn't take cover and only existed to shoot the player when they could or shoot each other if they got damaged - even Half-Life 1's AI consisted of 'run, throw grenades if player is hiding, or plant grenades at feet and die'.

90s throwbacks tend to really highlight this - they upped the platforming bullshit and added checkpoints to compensate for ROTT2013's enemies consisting of 'run at player'.

>>4200035
Link?

>>4200038
Nothing published yet.

I'll hope to make the chainsaw special for her.

>>4200028
What about maps that are meant to be "speed ran", ie playing through them as fast as possible to beat them in under a few minutes. Maybe this could be done by starting each map with a "starting line" that activates a crusher which will kill a voodoo doll at the start? That way you have an actual time limit for each map and a punishment for going slow, and either all maps could share the same time limit or they could be 1, 2, or 3 minute limits.

>>4200017
I've got a better one but it's not speedmapping
>Boom format
>Cannot go over vanilla visplane limit (to limit detailing)
>A pool of 32 themes is made, then everyone who participates gets assigned a different theme
>levels must be completable in under 2 minutes (on PrBoom+ with as much vanilla compat as possible) if being speedran, and each submission has to contain a webm of the creator finishing the level in under that amount of time
>This doesn't mean 100%, and it doesn't mean you can't use really stupid tricks, it just means that at least one route must be sub-2m

>>4200047
>mapping for speedrunning purposes

Dear God no.

>>4200037
>ROTT2013
Fuck me I couldn't even force myself to beat that turd. I just used cheats to skip to the end and see how it plays out.

>>4199802
>>4199754

And without further ado, that makes E2M2. Onto E2M3, whatever that is...

possible ideas:
>>4197790
>>4199178

>>4200037
In Unreal, less aggressive Skaarj and Krall will run away to break LOS with the player and take pot shots from behind walls when at low health.
Also some tend to not follow the player around corners and instead taunt and wait for the player to show themselves.

>>4200051
Fuck, dude. I literally only made it past the spinny platform tunnel by spamming jump after the 30th time.

>>4200060
holy fuck, why'd I forget about Unreal 1? It asspains me there's no remake or HD version. No other fuckin' game had so much atmosphere or a sense of wide-open spaces.

I still wanna gather a bunch of 90s FPS fans and punch through the custom co-op campaign someone ported to UT2004.

>>4200050
It's not mapping for speedrunning, it's made to ensure that people don't make maps that are insanely long.

>>4200028
>Heretic mapping
I'm thinking about starting HUMP either this monday or next monday. Will need some time to work out what kind of format is best and what to aim for (and to finish Heretic which I haven't done yet), as well as learn about the things you can do in heretic so I can at least help people out.

Idea so far:
>4 weeks to make a map
>Heretic standard textures and enemies
>All the stuff you can do in vanilla heretic (supposedly some voodoo doll scripting you can do?)
>Likely UDMF aimed at modern sourceports like zdoom/GZDoom
>No ACS or DECORATE
>New MIDIs fine provided they fit with Heretic's aesthetic

Probably just let people go nuts with weapons rather than try to plan an episode. Should be able to force wand start / full health using ACS (That will be the only usage of ACS)

If anyone has any ideas let me know. In the meantime, those of you interested think about a map idea and play some heretic to get back in the zone.

>>4200051

>tfw i was one of the few people that liked rott13 enough to 100% it.

apologies, i went to bed.
>>4199485
>>4199638
>This one? It's a secret
yeah that one. and if so, fair enough, it doesn't need another way out. i assumed the whole thing was a pitch black maze full of spectres.

>>4200051
I'll never forgive hulshult for what he did to Oww

>>4200096
Seriously, where the fuck did that guy get metal from when he composed for the game, the original ROTT soundtrack is anything but

>>4200083
it's cool
>>4200057
As this one states, it's MOSTLY specter-maze. There's a few zombiemen though.

unrelated, anybody got the alpha/beta resource wad hanging around? pic related

Made a map for 300 minutes of /vr/, mr 300 minutes manager.
Made and tested in 260 minutes, so if anything is dicked up I still have some time.
Was tested in chocolate doom.
Use this Enya midi for the music please: http://www.sysrq.info/~stv/enya/midi/sm/joh_smao.mid According to the site author it should download fine if you use Netscape.
Map link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s5heccegqheqafg/Labradoodle.wad
Please name it "Top Secret Labradoodle"
Made by Revae

>>4200114
Note that there is pinkies -and- specters, but they're essentially the same monster anyway, aside from darkness-camo.

being perma'd from zdoom and doomworld sucks because i'm actually GOT MEDIOCRE now.

>>4200106
>metal
I can't muster the strength to call this trash 'metal'

https://youtu.be/4Ki91f0DFX4

>>4200030
i bet that's hebredean_isle
>>4200047
>>Boom format
>>Cannot go over vanilla visplane limit
yeah, no.
>>4200057
wow actual interconnection. could it be you're finally improving at layouts?! m-masaka...

>>4200140
>actual interconnection
cough. it's existed in prior maps, not in good fashion though.

>>4200146
also im not sure if wheelspinners are allowed but here, have fun with a wheel picking your next map theme. can edit and add a total of 100 possible map themes. might be useful for the >>4200047
theme assignment.

http://wheeldecide.com/index.php?c1=VOID&c2=TEETH&c3=FIREBLU&c4=MARBLE&c5=FLESH+CANYON&c6=BOG%2FSWAMP&c7=ABSTRACT&c8=50+SHADES+OF+GRAYTALL&c9=HELL+FOREST&t=S%27Arais%27+Shitty+Doom+Map+Theme+Wheel%21&time=5

have fun?

>>4200047
>>Boom format
>>Cannot go over vanilla visplane limit (to limit detailing)

How would you even reliably test this?

>>4200159
>implying some enterprising asshole won't strategically over-detail to work around the visplane limit.

>>4200140
>made by Sarais
>get Flesh Canyon

I am not surprised.

>>4200159
Vanilla and BOOM formats have a Visplane Explorer in GZDoom.

>>4200140
>i bet that's hebredean_isle
Yes

>>4200047
>>Cannot go over vanilla visplane limit (to limit detailing)

A better rule for limiting detailing would be a Lines limit, IMO

Are there any Star Trek Doom mods?

>>4200168
Is anybody, at this point?

>>4200173
http://www.doomwadstation.net/main/startrek.html

And then there is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDkwtF7beUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds_ZKbQe0Zw

>first video has Nirvana's 'Rape Me' as a midi

I'm reminded of Vinesauce's Vinny now.

>>4200124
looking forward to playing this one!

>>4200179
Don't get too excited. And maybe don't play on hard. I might add some more health and ammo in tomorrow. Lemme know.

it is beatable though

>>4200168
Interesting that Boom format has visplane explorer. No boom compatible port has the limit.

>>4200182
I was going to wait until the project is released. Nothing wrong with a bit of difficulty. Whatever it is I'm sure we can handle it. As long as it isn't harder than the hardest moments of Plutonia or TNT it will be manageable.

>>4200124
>According to the site author it should download fine if you use Netscape.
Yeah, sure, why not just use DeHacked while we're at it? Want me to pick you up a can of Jolt?

>>4200186
I'm afraid the difficulty will be all over the place. Specifically I'm afraid my map will be too easy.

>>4200192
just increase enemies and reduce ammo and health on hard. People can usually handle it and its nice to have a challenge. They can save-scum if necessary.

>>4200190
I would rather a bottle of orbitz

whlhen's hdoom getting an update

>>4200207
i don't know but that's adorable

>>4200207
same time as qump drops

>>4200208
>ywn have a qt3.1415 busty plump baroness gf bawwing over you and checkin you out rockin that hot bod you don't have

>>4200207
which doom enemy is that?

>>4200221
The Weebshitcubus, you've never heard of it?

>>4200225
>The Weebshitcubus
Realm667 has gone too far this time

HUUH

>>4200236

>>4200236

>>4200247
shuuhsh

>>4200146
>not in good fashion though.
yes, exactly

Did anyone end up playing that map that got released at the end of the last thread? Any feedback on playability?

1 hour in. I don't know if this will work out or not, but hey.

>>4200271
Nice gladiator helmet.

>>4200275
It's obviously the CHAD MAP.
>has never seen an ingame texture
>only plays in automap
>doesn't use IDDT, kills enemies based on sound alone
>makes sure every wall is mapped out before exiting level
>finish time is measured in years

>>4200264
Which map? Moonlit Harbor or Subterranean Hideout?

>>4200295
neither

>>4200275
Th-thanks
>>4200289
Are you okay Anon?

>>4200289
>the virgin leak
>THE CHAD COMPILE

>>4200301
right

>>4200304
No. He memed so hard he herniated himself. RIP

>>4200271

>dog map

Kinsie?

>>4200310
>>4200301
>>4200295
Actually I fucked up. The thread before last. I'm retarded.
I need to know if its shit and why before making more maps, so I don't just make a bunch of shitty maps.

>>4200136
>spoiler
Why don't you just get yourself unbanned?

>>4200324
do not

>>4200319
Linking us to the post with your map, or at least telling us the name or anything to go on might help us work out which one you're talking about.

There have been a lot of maps posted recently

We purple now.

>>4200354
What the fuck that's a lot of enemies. You better be giving me quad and a pent if I'm gonna be followed by a dozen fucking Voreballs everywhere.

The purple is neat but I really like the neon on the ground around the item pickups.

I keep getting this
Script error, "HighNoonDrifter-v1.1b.pk3:decorate.txt" line 1:
Parent type 'NewTorch' not found in ChexVisorReplacement

Execution could not continue.

Any solutions?

>>4200354
Is this an attempt at a Quake slaughtermap?

>>4200324
>Why don't you just get yourself unbanned?
not him but you make it sound so easy

>>4200354
Better cut down on those "droles" or whatever they're called. Their animations and attacks are really unpolished in Quoth.

>tfw you come up with a great idea for a mod but you haven't modded a game in your life
HUH

>>4200418
Time to get crackin.
http://gunlabs.blogspot.com/2011/01/welcome-to-new-doom-armory.html

http://forum.zdoom.org/index.php

http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/repository-18489

Grab shit from Realm667, crack them open, figure out what makes them tick, learn, experiment, ask questions.

>>4200418
Ideas are plenty, maps aside the hurdle for something like ZDoom modding is probably more about art assets and pilfering sounds if anything.

>>4200427
Not him but thanks for that first link, that's gold.

>>4200324
Because he has really serious personality flaws that he doesn't seem to work on, which makes him difficult to deal with. Some of his maps aren't bad though.

>>4200354
> stardate 20x6 in quake

>>4200354
UT2004?

i made a map for that 300 thingy

title: did you seriously just copy and paste map01 4 times???

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ijz7vh0w4y9ks6i/mmmmaaaapppp00001111.wad?dl=1

Does there exist a compilation of the Rise Of The Triad tracks converted for Doom?

>>4199786
when was this made? Raycasting engines seem pretty interesting, even if they all look the same

>>4200073
I think we should wait until QUMP and 300 minutes of /vr/ are done lest we overload the community

>>4200518
This is clever and dumb at the same tiem, but I do not think that map edits count.

>>4199736
!!NEWS WORTHY!!
High quality wad I made in about half an hour. All weapon fire sounds are replaced with me saying shoot.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=19170807141829390137

>>4199831
What map?

>>4200624

That's Strife

>>4200626
Oh ok

>>4200465
that was my first thought as well, that one deathmatch map with the jump pads (not morpheus)

How do I make a powerup give resistance/immunity to a damagetype for as long as the powerup lasts?

>>4200546
So how do you guys organize your wads?
Pic related, there might be a better way but it works for me.

>>4200683
Also, I'm not sure why I linked that post, but whatever.

>>4200683
My organizing is all outright fucked.

>>4200461
Maybe next he'll move onto green levels, or orange ones.

>>4200683
Pretty much this but I have it a bit tidier, all the mod folders are in a mod folder, I've got a folder for all the source ports, subdivided into types, one for applications like Oblige, Slige and slade and one for iwads.

>>4200712
Also I use ZDL so it's all drag and drop into that, or using .zdl files for shit I've already set up.

>>4200190
>shit talking dehacked
I'll fuckin fight you.

It's a joke, anon. It'll download just fine.

>>4200554
1994 for classic Amigas and Amiga CD32

>>4200651
Someone pls answer.
Do I need to use ACS?

>>4200518
this is a terrywad isn't it. i know where this is going

>>4200757
they are multiplying

>>4200737
You need to use DECORATE.

Basically, create a new power up that inherits everything from the power up you want to edit and then add your changes.

https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE

>>4200781
like them with a stick through the bars

>>4200719
So they looked at Doom and thought it needed more vomiting?

>>4200518
>>4200757
>>4200781
all right well i won, i skipped most of the final quarter because i hate monsters spawners.

even without that i think 100% kills / secrets is impossible in vanilla, e.g. this needs crouching to access, and there is a sector toilet a bit further back that as far as i could tell you need to jump to reach. as for 100% kills there's simply not enough ammo and a bunch of cacodemon stuck inside the sky wall behind the cyberdemons.

>>4200786
I know that, but I can't find any definition for making an item give resistance or immunity for damage types.

>>4200326
its the second faggot map

>>4200518
>>4200813
>a bunch of cacodemons stuck inside the sky wall behind the cyberdemons

so yeah, it's a bit buggy, and requires non-vanilla player abilities. i also tend to agree with >>4200601 that it seems against the spirit to spent your 300 minutes editing an existing map. not to mention the problems with getting modified id maps into /idgames.

What wads have ton of eye candy? I know about Bloody Steel.

>>4200786
Also I've already defined the item as an actor already, all I actually need to do is to make it give 100% resistance towards a damagetype for the duration of the powerup (240 seconds).

>>4200838
Crucified Dreams, though it's just a set of deathmatch maps with no single player gameplay.

>>4200820
a faggot map on 4chan? well that certainly narrows it down.

only joking. i've only got as far as downloading it. i want to playtest the whole lot to help 300mgr decide on a map order, plus trying to fit in making a map of my own before the end of sunday. i will do it, but please bear with me.

>>4200839
Perhaps this is what you are looking for?

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_properties#DamageFactor

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:BasicArmorPickup

The latter providing an example of a Fire resistant armor. maybe it can be applied to a power up?

>>4200853
Well it's not gone homo.

what about Combined Arms update?

>>4200862
RIP Kegan, he never scored.

>>4200854
It didn't work, which is why I'm thinking I might have to somehow use ACS trickery to apply the effect to the timed powerup.

I could make the powerup give me an armor that would negate the damagetype, but then it wouldn't go away when the powerup ends, and it would go away prematurely from other damage, as the armor wears away.

>>4200813
I made this in about an hour, I haven't had enough free time to commit to a original map so rather than nothing I came up with this which is why its a bit wonky in a few areas
I didn't map with jumping or crouching in mind I just never got round to detagging the secret sectors I guess but for the sector toilet you can easily arch jump up there (did this many times accidentally during building which is why I put something there in the first place)

Ah didnt realize this was aiming for idgames that would make things tricky

>>4200853
No rush, especially with that mapping deadline.

>>4200862
We're still in mourning here you asshole.

>>4200880
Then I'm at my wits end, unfortunately.

>>4200862
>>4200875
>>4200895
i can't believe kegan is fucking dead
his skeleton continues to shitpost, for his spite against mankind is too strong to be held back by mortal bounds

>>4200651
>>4200814
>>4200839
>>4200880
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:PowerProtection
Just inherit off this and use the DamageFactor property.

>>4200913
I actually tried that copying from another actor, but it doesn't seem to work.

Can I specify two poweruptypes on one actor?

>>4200919
If you mean on a PowerupGiver, I don't believe so.

>I actually tried that copying from another actor, but it doesn't seem to work.
Not even the example HalfDamage powerup on the page?

>>4200926
No.

What I'm trying to do is to make a special radsuit item that gives protection from a custom damage type (gas).

>>4200838
IMO, Bloody Steel is an example of what not to do with Detailing. Inconsistent texture resolutions, alongside a few nooks n crannies that can impede on gameplay.

Anyone here play with any enemy AI mods?

>>4200927
On the PowerProtection powerup, did you set DamageFactor to 0? It could be this bug then
https://mantis.zdoom.org/view.php?id=226

>>4200942
Yeah, I did, and the gas does full damage like usual.

If I set it to 0.0, does that change anything?
Can I divide it down to effectively zero?
It'll still make the player do coughing sounds though.

>>4200941
I didn't even know people made those. I'd play the shit out of them though.
Doom has wonderful AI for what it is, as in the enemy all have their own basic movements and attacks that work reall well within the game, but mixing it up or giving them more advanced behaviour would be interesting.

>>4200949
I don't freaking know, good luck

>>4200942
It says it's fixed, so why am I still experiencing this?

>>4200884
fair enough
nonetheless, have a demo, for your trouble

https://a.uguu.se/IsYeAnl6PRXX_mmmmaaaapppp00001111.lmp

>>4200972
Hah, the archviles.
>Nah, fuck that

>>4200981
i would not have bothered getting the bfg too, but it was useful for swatting the final cacodemon out the way, rather than faff around trying to lure it when there's half a dozen bossbrains spamming the place.

>>4200073
I'd love to join in a mapping project, especially if it's Heretic. I've also just been given an extra week or so off work so a Monday start would work well for me.

I'd kind of like to try a theme to unite the levels, but forced wand vanilla Heretic would be ok for me. I liked the horror idea in the last thread, and thought about a Castlevania-style giant castle theme, a bit like Hecatomb was planned to be

>>4200941
Somebody on /vr/ was making an enemy AI mod that adds fear, morale, and synchronized squad tactics to the monsters.

No clue what happened to it. I think it was finished but I can't remember the name to check if it was.

>>4200304
wow I never knew unreal was a game about roman conquest

>>4201001
That's me, it's Babel, still being worked on my I had some crazy shit go down IRL so I had to take a break.

Would it be bad if the Doomwiki copied or took stuff from the Doom Wikia?

>>4201007
Yes because the wikia is garbage meant to collect ad revenue and the wiki is the proper heir
What is it missing? Just add it in properly.

Well, I managed to get the suit to actually negate gas damage completely by making the damage factor 0.01

Two issues remain, the gas clouds behave like explosions and will toss you up into the air like a balloon (or something), and the powerup doesn't seem to actually do the radsuit thing.

>>4201006
Is there a link to Babel anywhere?

Any other mods like Nido force? I had so much fun playing it but it just fucking ended after like an hour fuck.
I arleady played Pirate Doom

>>4201042
I'm confused by which one you want
Cute/cartoony wads, or wads where the game plays completely different

If cute/cartoony, i really enjoyed Adventure of Square and Golden Souls

>>4201032
Warosu has a few older versions archived, I think this is the most recent (though not fully up to date at all by a few months) link https://www.dropbox.com/s/vf7jujd8l0fiwbf/ProjectBabelv3.pk3?dl=0.. The new one will be released as a feature complete mod.

>>4201042
Jesus Christ my eyes.

>>4200361
Update your GZDoom.

>>4201046
>wads where the game plays completely different
I like that, I like platforming in doom for some reason. I just like when it looks like a completly different game, I liked Action Doom 2 despite it being shit when it comes to gameplay.

>>4200518
how about no

OC

>>4201061
Doomguy looks a bit rapey in the image.

>>4201051
Does pink offend you, anon?

>>4201057
> Nido force
"Sonic Robo Blast 2" then

>>4201063
Love is difficult man

>>4201064
No, but bright colors in a pattern designed to fuck people's eyes sure as hell does.

>>4201074
i take it you don't do well with crt's?

>>4201085
I used to, but now I'm an old bastard and it just hurts my eyes.

>>4201074
>>4201051
It looks better in motion

>>4201028
What actor are you copying from? What does it inherit from?

>>4201087
Ah, that explains it.

KNOCK KNOCK! WHO'S THERE? SCREE- SCREE- SCREE- SCREE- SCREE- SCREE- SCREE- SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!

POST YOUR MAPS, POST YOUR SPRITES, POST YOUR CODE, POST YOUR TEXTURES, POST WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

As metal as this looks, how in the fuck is that a moon? I know Phobos isn't round like ours, but this is just silly.

>>4201132
It's not, it's a chunk of the moon where the base was.

>>4201137
Huh. Guess I'm retarded.

>>4201132
> people still think the brown stalagmites are wood

>>4201113
Just walked out of the house, no no pics :^(. Working on new titlemap for Babel that works with all iwads. Also maybe changing some stuff with the pulse rifle.

>>4201150
dont worry you can post pics when you get home./

>>4201095
It inherits nothing.

I've made it spawn an invisible and undetectable actor on itself to act as the second half of it, where you pick them up at the same time, but I'm not 100% sure it's working.
Fiddling around with a bunch of things.

Pic related shows me not being harmed by the gas cloud (ignore the colormap), but immediately after the screenshot, I launched up into the air.
Not sure what I'd do to the gas cloud actor to stop that.

Doom would be better if every enemy was a chaingunner and every map was circular arena without any cover.

>>4201174
You mean if your only attack was the fist, all enemies are lost souls and the map was Vomitorium from ROTT.

>>4201173
Well, it inherits 'PowerupGiver', which I'm under the impression it has to do to function as a powerup.

>>4201113
Muh episode replacement. See >>4200057
>>4200140

>>4200325
>>4200456
>>4200324
>>4200383
Point me to the nearest "ban appeal" forms for Zdoom, Doomworld and Joy of Mapping.

I'm a fucking nut, sure. but I'm trying my damnest to make people enjoy my works and work past those flaws. Jimmy and co have no intrest in forgiving me and want to hold onto a lifelong grudge though.


>>4201132
Because that's the CRATER the base was on. The entire moon literally up and got dissapeared.

-S

>>4201095
Speaking of this, any of you smug motherfuckers know how to get an actor to explicitly follow Patrol Points and NOTHING ELSE? A_Stand doesn't allow it to do anything at all. It should move to a point, then immediately stop when at this position. This is necessary for ROTT Gadd Disk styled platforms using Floatingskulls.

still need to query what to do with e2m3

>>4200884
>>4200829
>>4200813
>>4200518

So, if any of you want to do vanilla crouching or other odd effects, there's barracks wad that you can crack open and try to figure out.

Like whatever the fuck they did for this deleted sector tunnel. How the hell?

>>4201149
They LOOK like wood and have the same visual texture to them as the trees, so they can be both.

>>4201191
>>4201113
As for actual screenshots...

>>4201173
>>4201186
I meant the gas clouds, what they inherit from

>>4201191
>I'm a fucking nut, sure. but I'm trying my damnest to make people enjoy my works and work past those flaws
I think it could frequently help if when a situation feels like it's getting heated, stop and think a bit, consider what you said, consider why someone said what, and consider how you possibly might look to the other person in this situation, and whether or not they would be rational in their perception.

I used to engage in some pretty spergy behavior, I wouldn't say I'm really 'normal', but I think I've improved in some areas by not doing things I used to do. Do you ever talk to a therapist or professional about this?

>>4201173
you're already using +NODAMAGETHRUST, right

>>4201191
>This is necessary for ROTT Gadd Disk styled platforms using Floatingskulls.
What are these?

>>4201191
Never thought I'd say this but that E2M2 map actually looks half decent, glad you've finally kept it simple! However that curvy section in the upper right looks too verbose - although it looks neat on the auto map I can see it being annoying to move around in, I'm not saying to remove it entirely but maybe time it down slightly

>>4200624
>>4200626
DUMP 2 MAP51, actually.

>>4201207
Oh, those? They don't inherit from anything else either.

Oh, hold on, looking at it, the code has +NODAMAGETHRUST commented out, along with +PIERCEARMOR, the latter being commented out because the gas cloud already does absolutely hideous damage as it is (this being built on a port of the Immoral Conduct EDGE mod).

I figure if I re-add +NODAMAGETHRUST, it should stop shoving you around.

>>4201210
Nope, as it turns out, and that was the problem on that end.

The only thing that remains to see if it works is the 'IronFeet' property and the small added armor bonus.

>>4201208
Yeah, and I apologize for my behavior. but that's just how my brain is wired. Psychologist/therapist said there was nothing wrong with me, but I'm damn certain it's him that's wrong.

>stop and think a bit
see, that's just it, I can't. After a certain point or given specific factors, I'm beyond reasoning or logical behavior at a given time, so the best thing to do is either ignore me and come back to try to work things out, or try to defuse the situation. Nothing that can be done. and sometimes even the slightest thing sets me off. It's just how my head works, I didn't ask for it.

too bad i'll never be part of ZDCMP3 or any cool shit like that. The hilarious irony of it all: try to make sure your life means something so you can die happy. And I've barred myself from it. Way to go, jackass!

>>4201113
I suppose I could post my super special speedmap for the compilation. 3 hours in already, jeez.

>>4201221

Oh my bad ! It's not just the textures the overall layout really looks like strife.
Anon. I have misled you.

>>4201113

Zombie TC'ing all day everyday. Turned that nondescript building into a fancy shmancy travel agency for rich douchebags.

>>4201212
You ever play Rise of the Triad? There's a bunch of floating metal disks that fly around and the player can ride them. It was a superficial means of giving a 3d floor effect to a Wolfenstein Engine game, as well as walkable midtextures.

>>4201217
I kind of agree. There was an intresting effect that albertoni used for "The Ship that Wore a mask"

I am really NOT a fan of how cluttered it looks on the map though.

I'm also pretty convinced I'll have to trim/redo it anyway. Possibly too many lines/nodes and might cause a vanilla implosion. We'll see.

>>4201231
>the last sentence isn't spoiled
fuck i specifically put tags around my mopey blog-posting bullshit.

>>4201236
yeah, that map uses exclusively strife textures and is based off the second hub (the one where you can first buy shadow armor)

>>4201241

Yup, man I love strife, I still regularly replay it every couple of years.

>>4201240
ANYWAY.

Before I just jump to improvisational mapping-as-i-go again, any specific ones that people want for E2M3? Take a look at some of the proposed ideas, or reply with a concept or idea of your own.

that's right, get your asses over here ideaguys.
>>4197790 →
>>4199178 →

Not exactly sure what I'm doing here. Should I continue?

>>4201231
I'm no professional by any means, but have you considered asking a doctor (another one), to diagnose you and see if you are bipolar or have Borderline? It's just a vague hunch and I don't want to armchair, but based on how you describe it, it seems like it MIGHT be something like that.

Is there something like a doom wad analyzer? I'm organizing my wads by Source Port/IWAD/Level Count and would like to get the info fast.

>>4201252
It wouldn't surprise me if I had an absurd mixture of brain damage/disability bullshit, like:

Intermittent explosive disorder
HAWWtism
ASSburgers
straight-up-basic-brain-damage-from-smacking-your-skull-on-everything
general learning disabiltiy
contamination and mutants
possible parasite cysts which is really fucking bad.

i am one buggered up not-metal man

Also, at the time, I was emotionally compromised too.

but that's more a discussion for elsewhere.
oi, any of you fuckers ever want a co-op or gaming partner or whatever, bother saraisvanu eh?

>>4201191
>I'm a fucking nut, sure. but I'm trying my damnest to make people enjoy my works and work past those flaws. Jimmy and co have no intrest in forgiving me and want to hold onto a lifelong grudge though.

"I-I-I-I-I'm TRYING! HONEST!" is not a valid justification for your actions, especially when you have done this several times before and are more than likely to do it again.

>>4200717
It served us well.

>>4201268
>trying to start shit again
For what purpose?

>>4201231
>>4201260
Have you ever tried just not being a huge faggot?

>>4201271
>trying to start shit again
S'arais is fucking blogposting about how fucking SAD :(((( he is and that Jimmy holds a grudge and you're saying HE'S starting shit?

>>4201271
I'm starting shit? After Captain "Blame jimmy because he has a grudge" here?

>>4201113
I'm currently organizing and renaming textures from Quake's IKBLU and IKWHITE in preparation for a Heretic map.

>It's the final level and you get all the guns right off the bat, making you immediately shit yourself wondering what could be hiding around the corner
Anyone else here love that feeling?

>>4201132
the intermission art for doom 1 is weirdly really expressionist. you just can't think about it like that

>>4201283
>gives you all the guns
>first challenge is a voodoo doll maze with like two enemies
i see what you mean tho lol

>>4201283
The epic action theme of Last Call alone does that (though it's effect is kind of dampened by how it's used in a few previous maps).

>>4201283
>>4201286
>Gives you all the guns
>it's just a standard Icon of Sin fight

>Have to reactivate my account for security purposes
It's like they don't want anyone to post there ever
Also
>Have a guy brute force accounts
>Don't change anything to prevent brute forcing of passwords
>Just deactivate all accounts that haven't posted in 3 months
>And take nearly a fucking year to do that after the problem arises
>And YOU CAN STILL BRUTE FORCE PASSWORDS ANYWAY, just need to have your bot know "super shotgun" :^)
Amazing net security

>>4201275
>in preparation for a Heretic map
Does that mean what I think it means?

>>4201292
they really haven't integrated the "locks you out after a few failed attempts" protocol? that's like web 1.0 shit

>>4201293
I just wanted to do one for myself without time constraints with a texture pack I have never seen in the DOOM engine.

And there we have it, the suit protects me from damage by the chemical gas cloud (it also no longer shoves me around or launches me in the air), the suit also protects me from damaging floors, and it has four times the duration of a normal radiation suit, and will give small token armor bonus.

It has 25% chance of spawning in place of a normal protection suit.

>>4201296
No, just deactivated a bunch of accounts.
This is good because it solves the security issue and also helps retain old users that are now required to prove they are who they say they are and if they don't have access to their old email they are shit out of luck and even then if the moderation thinks they "sound suspicious" then they're also fucked.
Also no two step authentication with email so the site can piggyback off another site's security measures. And no email notifications for anything. And still not even a fucking captcha for the logins.

>>4201292
>>4201316
found the ex-pat

>>4201326
Fuck off, cunt.


>>>/v/

>>4201328
lmao, blown the fuck out and got angry about it

>>4201328

These threads aren't your haven to whine about the other forums, sorry.

>>4201316
>>4201292
>just need to have your bot know "super shotgun" :^)
I stand corrected, they added more security questions.
>If you could set a skull on fire and make it fly, I would exist. What am I?:
>This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.
There is no way a master-level script kiddie hacker could ever add the fucking questions to his bot that already answers the "super shotgun" question. Site 100% secure.

>>4201309
Also here's the suit itself.

>The AlchiTec T1200A, CBRN Protective Suit (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear)
>This is an advanced Hazard Protection suit, it is fully sealed and offers an onboard air supply and fully seals against contaminants [giving a usable effect that is four times the duration of the regular suit]
>The steel reinforced and sealed boots protects against heat, electricty and radiation.
The material making up the suit is multilayered and very tough, and will self-seal (to a point) [acting as 25pts of added armor], it is treated against various agents and acids, the material being very dense and resistant.
>The T1200 is the only thing that will protect a person against the [REDACTED] agents used in the 37mm Gas Grenades
>Once the air supply is expended [the powerup wears off], the helmet piece must be removed to allow for breathing [though it no longer quite protects against gases, radiation, biological, or radiological threats, the material of the suit still acts as armor].
>The T1200A is intended to be connected to a larger air supply for special sustained hazardous work, but it has the oxygen tube for emergencies [you have no central oxygen supply available, so you're stuck with the onboard reserve]

Compare to the normal radsuit pickup which is just a covering body suit and boots, no gasmask or anything, which, while surprisingly effective against liquid exposure and electricity, isn't long lasting (you can even see residue and wear from corrosives on the boots from workers having used them).

Would you guys consider playing the original Doom I and II with a mouse cheating if the player was a first timer? Or in other words should players new to Doom beat the game for the first time using only their keyboards ?

>>4201326
>video game forum nationalism

Can we get back to talking about vidya now?

this is a stair builder now

>>4201326
What you mean? Is there an issue with not posting for a while?
>>4201328
>>4201330
Not me

>>4201340
>cheating

Only if you look up and down.
It's ultimately a bit of a moot issue, though. Jumping through maps breaks things far more than freelook does.

>>4201340
doom was made to be played with mice

mouse-only's a way more interesting challenge anyway

>>4201340
Christ fucking no. I have no idea how I managed without a mouse as a child. Mouselook and actually having to aim up and down has spoiled me.

>>4201340
Doom and Doom 2 had native support for the mouse, but only or turning horizontally, auto-aim is there in place of vertical aiming (so basically back up until whatever is up or down is visible and let auto-aim do it's work).

>>4201340
Doom was designed with a mouse in mind, dude.

>>4201113
trying to see if I can get a speedmap finished by sunday but I've been slacking. Hopefully i can get off my ass on my day off and take a few more hours to get this map that people will probably finish in three minutes done, but I still gotta think about how I want the map to flow first.

>>4201352
CUTE

Are there any good Wad's based on Friday the 13th?

>>4201113
>>4200057

>>4201343

Not him, but because this is the general /doom/ thread and because anyone can post here, we have a wide variety of different people from the different communities.
Some people take advantage of this anonymity in order to try to complain about issues they have with other forums/people (S'arais is especially fucking bad about this), or to take advantage of this anonymity to shitpost (Linguica was caught doing this), or to try and start a fight on another forum (Decay/OneTwo).

It's not relevant to /vr/ or to Doom. The "Oh my god can you BELIEVE he said this?!?!" machine is already cancerous enough as it is.

>>4201352
ganbatte

>>4201350
and it sucked, it also sucked even more on Hexen.

>>4201364
>It's not relevant to /vr/ or to Doom. The "Oh my god can you BELIEVE he said this?!?!" machine is already cancerous enough as it is.
thanks for being the literal definition of a hypocrite

>>4201375
Well auto-aim sucks, but honestly, most of Doom and Doom 2 just don't really have enough verticality or situations where there's aiming up and down would be really important.

It's a pretty easy game as it is.

>>4201378
you have no clue what that word means

>>4201385
"a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings"
>shitsmears 3 people then immediately complains about shitsmearing people.
Looks pretty accurate enough to me

>>4201392
Not what happened, but ok.

>>4201392

Ok, I'll just go and play some Doom now until this situation goes away.

I was the zdoom article about creating weapons and I get the frames and all that but how am I supposed to make the weapon actually available and usable?
If I use "replace" it turns anything I replace it with an empty texture so am I supposed to make another decorate file with the object or in what way do I change this one with the weapon's properties?

>>4201406
Define it's spawn state.

>>4201364
>Linguica was caught doing this
That is fucking amazing.
The deactivation is dumb and solves nothing. I would post about how dumb it is on the forums themselves but I'd have to ask to have my account reactivated and I'm not going to because that's dumb so I have to complain here.

>>4201406

Your weapon needs a Spawn state, which spawns it in the world.

>>4201394
Not him, but how is you naming names and behaviours of other people in other forums not exactly what you were just bitching about?

Like what the fuck would you call it?

>>4201406
texture offsets?

>looking down on using freelook
Without it you're relying on autoaim anyway, I don't get the big deal.
I still beat the original two iwads with the classic setup for my first time, meaning no freelook either, but it's not like it's gamebreaking

>>4201404
Don't worry. It'll be around forever, unfortunately.

What are some good mapsets you've played recently, not too crazy long or slog-like that only takes a leisurely stroll to complete, even on UV. Like Echelon, mayhaps?

>>4201417
>in other forums
I was saying what they did here, in this forum.

>>4201416
>>4201409
Oh alright, I got it wrong and intended it like the state in which it would be when I picked it up somehow, thanks and will report later if there's something I'm not getting right.

>>4201423
Not on UV, but Mutiny was a pretty good and fun mapset.

It's designed to be challenging (but in a fair way), I would recommend playing on HNTR at the highest, unless you're very skilled.

Another is Double Impact, a E1 replacement with very good design and atmosphere.

>>4201424
This isn't a forum you dunkass it's an image board.

>>4201420
To me freelook makes things substantially easier, your range isn't defined by the auto aims limitations and you can also selectively choose which monster dies first when there's a layered setup
still usually have more fun with freelook though, probably because it makes you feel invincible

>>4201424
>Some people take advantage of this anonymity in order to try to complain about issues they have with other forums/people

Says anon complaining about issues with other people.

>it's not hypocrisy when I do it

>>4201417
>Like what the fuck would you call it?
examples of behavior here.
in your own words, the issue was "in other forums"

i can call s'arais a faggot here because he's a giant fucking faggot here
when someone makes stupid posts about doom on twitter, it's not /vr/ because it's about a no-name trying to stir drama with other people

>>4201442
there's that misused word again

>>4201283

> gives me all the guns

> it's just Spider Mastermind that dies from four BFG hits

What did id mean by this?

>>4201423
confinement 256

>>4201448
>>4201446
samefag pls go

>>4200124
Alrighty.
Fixed a few minor things. Tested a tad more. All done.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s5heccegqheqafg/Labradoodle.wad
>>4201113
this, and started another map
one after another

>>4201453
shhhh, it's ok

>>4201441
>probably because it makes you feel invincible
Average to shit pkayer here, no it does not.
It can make the sprites all weird though, since you were never meant to look up or down at them. It's pretty funny seeing how enemies are literally 2D as you shoot down at them.

>>4201450
>four

>>4201404
Best way to escape the autism.

>>4201442
Honest question, does the phrase "other forums" just keep bouncing off of you, or are you just momentarily blacking out every time you read it?

>>4201459
Trailblazer is so much fun, especially with Ketchup and the synthwave jukebox that anon kindly posted a few months back.
>the latest GZDoom build breaks half of the powerups
Annoying, but at least the guns are fine.

>>4201451
Ah, I remember submitting to that. They called my map "inner demons" for whatever reason but it was a really bad map and abysmal to navigate, not to mention it's poor general quality.

>>4201332
>These threads aren't your haven to whine about the other forums, sorry.
>this after 100+ posts about Graf Zahl and the ZDoom.org mods
look, let's be real. this absolutely is the place to Whine About Other Forums, and i love it.

>>4201463
He's literally only here to shitsmear and shitpost (he's the doombabby poster too).

>>4201471
>and i love it
i don't
imported drama is aids

>>4201471
>this absolutely is the place to Whine About Other Forums

This should be the place to Play Doom And Mod Doom.

>>4201464
I just run Trailblazer on GZDoom 2.5, there's no reason not to right now.

Also I'm hoping this dude eventually finishes his stuff because it's 80s as fuck https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93974-synthwave-doom-mega-wad-update/

>>4201474
also Whine About Not Enough People Playing/Modding Quake

>>4201471
and yet you call others ex-pats...

>>4201474
This.

This isn't the place to beat a dead horse.

>>4201478
Holy shit that looks good

>>4201473
how many times have you shitposted about graf zahl? please answer truthfully.

>>4201485
none, whatever graf does to his engine is entirely irrelevant to me. whether i like it or not, it's his engine and he's within his rights to do what he wants to it.

i play boom.

>>4201352
nice

>>4201471
Currently, /rhg/ gets occasional nonsense about romhacking.net and a supposed "war" going on between web owners.
It's just as irrelevant there and gets purged pretty frequently. Why should forum drama be enabled here?

>>4201479
don't do it, you're gonna attract the ">doom shitters" guy

>>4201484
Yes, yes it does.

The only thing I've found that comes close right now is the Underglow level from the 20 monsters community challenge pack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbFlfl127s

>>4201485
It's not shitposting if it's about Graf.

>>4201492
>i play boom.

same.

i still think it's funny though. in fact because i am not personally affected by gzdoom shenanigans, i am able to laugh at it.

>>4201496
because it's fucking hysterical.

what you said sounds boring.

>>4201479
I think Quake is fun to play but I have no interest in modding it but have respect for everyone that does.

>>4200262
>4200262
Exactly. This map is fucking cluttered to shit and I'm not going to do it again.

/vr/ should have a weekly multiplayer game or something. Most of the servers on Doomseeker are either empty or modded to shit.

>>4201524
I'd be cool with that.

>>4201524
>>4201527
Same.

>>4201527
>>4201530
how do we set this up

>>4201524
our only room setup man & janny is fucking lazy

>>4200862
I'm late to this, but not until GMOTA gets updated.

>>4200057

Before I go back to my improvisational mapping-as-i-go again, any specific ones presented/proposed that people want for E2M3? Take a look at some of the possible map theme ideas and tell me what you'd like for each. Or pitch in your own.

now where are those ideaguys when you need them?
>>4197790
>>4199178

>>4201534
>>4201532
Setting up a server through TSPG is entirely automated and straightforward, just go to the irc channel

well thats what best-ever was like before it got nuked, I assume it's the same

>>4201498
trigger warning: conspiracy theory

personally i think half the posters banging on endlessly about Quake are only here to keep the franchise prominent, in the hope that it translates into more sales of Quake Champions.

consider: Bethesda's Social Media Brand Management contract operatives know QC can't be discussed directly on the Retro Games board, as they found out during the DOOM 2016 prerelease marketing drive, by having all their posts purged constantly, and eventually all discussion of the new game blanket banned. "but maybe," the thinking goes, "maybe if we still keep the quake franchise itself front and center, and discussed constantly" (note that even Quake II is getting praise!) "it will translate into more sales."

it's clever and subtle, and worse there's no way to prove it one way or the other, except to see what happens after the game is released.

in before alexjonesinatinfoilhat.jpg.

Huh, Russian Overkill was completed a month or so ago.

>>4201560
You're an idiot.

>>4201562
that's a rarity

>>4201428
Alright I got the pickup right it's visible and you can use it however the weapon itself isn't (visible) and I was wondering which offsets you're supposed to use since HUD/weapon don't change a thing.
Also on how many different directory am I supposed to paste the textures?

>>4201560
Quake 2 really wasn't bad. I'd say it's better than Quake.

>>4201560
sounds p stupid, really
>>4201565
that's just what a shill would say

>>4201556
alright, seems simple enough. what time/day of the week should we do this though? I'm thinking either Friday or Saturday nights

>>4201587

Damn, both of those nights are out for me.

>>4201593
I mean idk, I figure these would probably be the most available for most people. Sunday might work too; what nights are you free?

>>4201560
>half the posters banging on endlessly about Quake are only here to keep the franchise prominent
or maybe they like a game with lighting throwing yetis, weapons with shit damage & rocket jumping

>>4201508
Anime was a mistake.
How long till Yholl and Terminus want to be the little girl?

>>4201545
Alternatively I can punt out my current revision of the wad, which has E2M1, E2M2, and E2M8

if any of you motherfuckers wanna add your own maps, feel free. i'm just doing episode 2, so i'll regulate it to E1, E3, or E4. Don't need to stick to a specific theme for each, I'm just doing a couple that I feel would work for Episode 2, but many of them have a very E3 aesthetic.

This way, you can chew out my E2M2 for being too dark. I agree with you however I feel that making it much brighter will make the specters/pinkies too visible early on. The player is given minimal health pickups and a light amp, alongside a chainsaw and scarce pistol ammo, to help give a possible sense of urgency. Damaging floor should also hopefully be clearly indicated from non-damaging (only lava this time)

course this is all a real pain when you don't have your glasses proper and need to be less than a foot from the screen to see jack shit of it, so i'll worry about other refinements once i can actually see worth a damn.

>>4201565
thanks
>>4201582
>sounds p stupid, really
yeah it does, it's based on my observation that the amount of quakeposting has risen markedly since the announcement of the game, and it's been getting more aggressive with people trying to start fights saying quake is better than doom, not realising that we don't do that sort of shit here, which makes me think they're outsiders who are more used to other boards' culture.
>>4201602
i'm not saying all of the quake fans here are not genuine, just some of them. enough of them to notice. anyway i won't post about this any more since it's clearly controversial.