/vr/ - Retro Games

I played the classics as a kid. My nerd cred was secure two decades ago.

>>4197321
After a certain amount of interest poured into any medium it's natural and almost inevitable that one will be curious and explore its origins. I don't think anyone should feel obligated to play the classics, people should play them if they want to and find them fun. My favorite and most played game right now is asteroids, not because I felt obligated to go that far back, but because that's the game I have the most fun with.

I only played SMB last year, for the first time. I had played the Mario All Stars version before, so I never knew how simple Mario's sprite used to be.

I've never played Fire Emblem.

I think the biggest "classic" I haven't played is Chrono Trigger. Most retro games are so short and easy to emulate that there's not much reason to have not played them, but those 20+ hour long RPGs are a different story.

>>4197348
>never knew Mario's sprite
Literally how? It's everywhere online because it's so iconic. You honestly had never seen a youtube video/webcomic/image that contained Mario's original sprite? It's fucking everywhere.
I just saw a post on facebook a few days ago a friend shared and it was a Lego version of that Mario sprite.

>>4197361
lol this guy

Never played Crash, Spyro, Castlevania, Wario Land, DKC, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Dragon Quest, Silent Hill, I could go on and on but my childhood was GameCube era Nintendo and I had no interest in anything besides Nintendo until about 2007 and even then my folks didn't let me play M rated games until 2010.

>>4197361
Most videos I've seen only showed the updated sprite from All Stars. I never thought about searching specifically for the NES version - I thought All Stars was a complete port of the NES original, not that it was remade.

>>4197365
That doesn't answer my question.

>>4197371
>>4197361
For a good 15 years, I also thought All Stars was just the NES game ported over. I never played a NES before, because they weren't very popular in Brazil (its clones were), and I never played Mario Bros back then.

>>4197381
I'm Brazillian as well, and I'm still just as confused.
I easily can't go an year online without seeing Mario's original sprite somewhere. Hell, it's even in modern games because it's just that iconic. In Super Paper Mario you can turn into a giant version of the original sprite, in Mario Party 8 you can eat a candy and become 8-bit, which makes everyone go back to their original sprites. In Super Mario Galaxy there's an entire stage that is literally just Mario's SMB sprite.

>>4197372
I wasn't even the anon you asked the question to

>>4197396
I never played the newer games. Until last year, I had only played Super Mario World and All Stars.

basically if you've never played f-zero don't even breathe my air CRETIN

>>4197405
sorry that was mean anon, I take it back, you are not pathetic

>>4197321
Not really, I just play games I find interesting.

I never liked Tomb Raider and Spyro they are mediocre in my opinion especially Spyro.

Never played Fire Emblem and might never do it since now on older days jrpgs and the likes are too time consuming to enjoy imho.

>>4197405
That's not even relevant.

There are people who deliberately avoid what they perceive as popular. This is one of the characteristics of a "hipster"

>>4197357
CT goes by pretty quickly actually. like half of the content is optional sidequests.

and the main story quest is easily broken up into bits you can play in one sitting so you can play at a pace you're comfortable with.

I was born in 84 so the classics were all I had as a kid. I can't name a single popular series I haven't at least tried, even sports titles.

>>4197321
You need to get on Quake. And make sure that it has the original music playing, too. It's a creepy as fuck, gothic game to begin with, but with Trent Reznor's music playing in the background, it takes it up about 9 notches.

Is Fire Emblem really a classic?

I haven't played Secret of Monkey Island, Metal Gear Solid, Revenge of Shinobi, Sonic CD, or Final Fight.

>>4197321
tomb raider, quake, crash and spyro arent classics to me. playstation came out when i was in 9th grade

>>4197420
>on older days jrpgs and the likes are too time consuming
You can always speed-toggle through battles. It's how (s)RPGs were meant to be played honestly

>>4197659
I guess people are retroactively thinking FE is a classic because the shitty 3DS games got popular. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

>>4197321
I do, actually. I feel that your opinion on certain games and genres is worthless if you don't get where they came from and I find that I understand new games better for going back and playing older ones. Shut up, it makes sense.

>>4197410
All-Stars has the original cover art, featuring the original sprite, on the game select screen. You literally could not have NOT seen it.

>>4197357
SNES jrpg are short compared to any jrpg made afterwards

Never played an elder scrolls game. Havent played any halflife, counter strike or team fortress game. Havent played any deus ex or system shock. No Quake. No Secret of Monkey Island or Day of the tentacle, really the only notable pc adventure games ive actually played are grim fandango and IHNMAIMS. Never played any rts game for more than a few minutes.

Id like to remedy all this one day, but theres only so many hours and a lot of other games seem more appealing to me so I want to play them first. Just started the original Doom which has been on my backlog forever.

>>4198151
But it does make sense anon. I just recently started Star Control 2 and I'm already surprised at how much the mass effect series (poorly) imitated it.

>>4197923
Any early game in a series that goes on for long enough will eventually be thought of as a classic.

>>4197321
>Post "classic" series you never played any games from.
SNES wasn't represented in my country, and I've never seen Zelda games on local famiclones. So I only found out about Zelda being cult series when I got internet access in early 00s, but first games were so boring compared to Ys games I finished through emulation already, so I never bothered with Zelda.

>>4197659
Well FE started in the 80s and has blown up into a mega series with tons of entries. The characters are pretty iconic by now.

>>4197348
>>4197361
I saw SMB in a store for the first time when it came out
It was like a psychedelic experience
Never saw anything like it before
Never saw colors like that before
Everyone is mindfucked
All television channels end every night and go to a test pattern for hours before starting back up at 7am with the national anthem

>>4197321
What fucking color settings are those? This is worse than the 'purple skies like the creators intended' bullshit

Never played (or cared about)...

>final fantasy
>castlevania
>zelda
>quake
>metal gear

>>4197321
I've never played any of these games or games from these series:

Ultima
Tomb Raider
Sonic
Adventure Island
Chrono Trigger
Silent Hill

Other than that, I can't really think of any "classics" that I've never played.

>>4197321
Tomb Raider, Crash, Spyro, Mario Kart, Legend of Zelda, Pac Man, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest are probably best known series I never really played.

Answer is because I don't own and never owned any consoles.

>>4199130
Wow man. Where can I read the rest of your highschool project?

>>4199145
Out of all those, you really should check out Adventure Island series.

grew up with a NES. dad bought it in 1988, when i was 4 years old. we had mario/duck hunt, and an easy, convenient place from which to rent games. my mom is the one who started renting games for me, and as i grew up, that's what i spent my allowance on.

i've played most of the classics, but thanks to speedruns/twitch, and youtube, i've found out there are a shitload of games i haven't played that everyone else got ahold of. conversely, there are many games i've played that nobody else has heard of. makes sense when you think about it.

as a rule, i don't fuck with games that came out when i was too young to play them to completion. for example, i couldn't complete zelda 1 (both quests) when i was 4. duck hunt and mario, however--fine.

anyway, thanks to the internet, i have more "classic games" available to me than i ever really wanted. it's to the point where i feel anxiety about having too many goddamn video games. approaching games like i did when i was but a child isn't going to work because this isn't 1995. the world is a little different. so, i have to make a backlog if i want to actually try completing these shits, but making a backlog has never worked for me.

the only thing that works for me is playing whatever game i'm interested in playing, as long as i've never played it before and as long as i play it to completion. earlier this year, i finished f-zero, and now i'm working on dark souls 1.

i'll wrap this up by complaining that somewhere along the line, i figure around 2004-2008, games made a shift from games that try to kick your ass and don't give a shit, to games that hold your hand. for a long time, i wondered why i'd gotten bored with videogames. but now i know. i had fun when i was a kid because those games were CHALLENGING. if a game isn't challenging, it can't do anything more than bore you. sure, old games were pretty fucking linear and most challenges had only ONE solution, but at least it made you WORK for it.

>>4199205
Yeah, I like platformers so I'd probably be into it.

>>4199192
Tomb Raider came out for PC too my man.

>>4199213
Yeah fuck making a backlog list or any of that shit. Keeping track of that stuff takes longer than actually just sitting down and playing games now and then, and I feel like time is scarce enough as it is.

>>4199226
my nigga. also, i forgot pic.

>>4199230
I truly have to wonder if comics like this are satirical in nature.

Honestly I like playing games I played when I was young. I was never into rpg stuff cause most of the time I would get 30 mins to play a game then go outside to go fishing/build a fort/hang out at the river to smoke. I really didn't get into games untill about 15 years ago.

I play alot of retro stuff (from my youth that I like) but honestly I play crap like call of duty cause its fun to play and I can easily play 10 mins and walk away for a hour/day/whatever and come back and jump back in with no real investment.

However I lover replaying stuff like diablo 1, SotN, not retro WC3, and joust. Yea joust is my current favorite cause my son likes it and hes pretty good.

>>4199431
care to explain?

>>4199467
The concept of satire? I could possibly not explain that to you the way the internet could

>>4199469
no, explain why you think that comic is satire.

>>4199473
They often are.

>>4199476
i wouldn't say the comic is saying "dark souls isn't the big intimidating game people think it is", but that's just my interpretation. it's entirely possible that's what it's saying.

my impression is it's saying "many modern action games aren't challenging whatsoever and they reward you for little/no effort, and by contrast, dark souls is going to rip you a new one".

so what i'm really asking is what part you think is satirical, or what exactly they're satirizing.

>>4199484
The fact that you're handed something in Dark Souls is what throws me off.

>>4199487
are you saying dark souls gives you stuff you don't deserve, or are you saying the comic is trying to make the game out to be like that?

>>4199489
I don't know. But he is walking up to a treasure chest and gives the kid armor and a weapon no?

>>4199490
sure, but i'd say that represents DS well enough. you can start off the game with a full set.

>>4199492
But then I don't understand the point of the comic. I'm seeing two scenarios that are the same only the first one it fits that a father is helping his son with his food.

>>4199496
You have autism. Severe autism, possibly clinical. In the first part of the comic, the father hands the kid the food as soon as the kid starts crying. In the second part, the father gives the kid a sword and says he has to fight for the food. What's there to understand? The comic clearly says DS is more hardcore than most modern action games.

>>4199496
>>4199509
well...if you have clinical autism or something, i'm not gonna hold that against you, but everything else this anon said is correct.

>>4199131
Looks normal to me

>>4199509
>>4199512
That's just your interpretation of a comic that is open to interpretation. In a sense you're just projecting your agenda onto a comic and using it without understanding the deeper meaning of the comic at hand. To me it looks like Dark Souls is just unfair and unrealistic because you're given all this stuff for free.

>>4199541
welp, you're entitled to your interpretation. good day, sir.

>>4199547
No one is talking about entitlement but you though.

>>4199548
huh? where? and for anyone worried we're getting off retro, i'll see if i can find a way to answer this anon within the framework of retro.

>>4197321
No. I've never touched an Atari 2600 or NES game. Don't feel like I'm missing anything. After playing SNES era Mario I highly doubt I'll gain anything from NES Mario.

>>4197321
>Post "classic" series you never played any games from.
Mario
Fire Emblem
Pacman
Donkey Kong
Ninja Gaiden
Phantasy Star
Shining Force
Shenmue
Command & Conquer
Megaman
Ghosts 'n Goblins

>>4197321
Kid me had an obsession with playing games considered to be the best of all time or part of a "gaming canon", probably because even younger kid me played a lot of licensed games and was trying to compensate. I never actually got to playing most of them, though, especially a lot of fifth-gen stuff.

>>4197321
Super Mario Bros and Pac-Man are the only "essential" videogames IMO. Maybe Tetris too.
Things like Spyro, Doom, or Tomb Raider are just preference.

>>4197321
I've played pretty much everything...though with a lot of older stuff it's played one level for a minute until I died and then didn't bother playing anymore...in that regard I've "played" every Megaman game...but as far as putting real time into things, there are a lot I haven't, but then like I said I tried them and didn't care for them.

>>4199668
Metroid
Crash Bandicoot
Tomb Raider
Ecco The Dolphin
Shenmue
Spyro
Banjo - Kazooie
Ninja Gaiden
Shinobi

>>4198956
Well aaaaaactually: the first game got released in 1990 for the famicom and its first sequel (Gaiden) got released in 1992 so technically it started in the 90s.

>>4197321
>I've never played any Tomb Raider, Quake, Crash, Spyro, or Fire Emblem
Like hearing classic music, you can see where loads of the concepts you know today started or were honed further.

>>4198151
No, I agree with you. It's like if someone is a massive movie fan but hasn't seen anything prior to 1950. You have to at least watch the origins of the medium you claim to love if you ever want to understand it.

>>4199841
I dunno man. Tomb Raider was really solid

Never given Crash Bandicoot, Ecco, Ghosts 'n Goblins and Silent HIll, a shot, and frankly don't care to.

Tried Shining Force 2 many years ago, and even then I thought it was dull as dishwater.

The only Tomb Raider I've played is the 2013 game and I think that's enough.

>>4197321
>Obligated
I played them because they were there at the time.
If you are new to vidya I'd say to play what calls your attention instead of hearing empty recommendations of how "X" game is the "singularity" of the time or the genre.
That's how you grow fanboys.

Grew up in the 8 bit era and never played any of the following more than 5 minutes before deciding they were garbage:

Excitebike
Karnov
Trojan
Rygar
Ikari Warriors
Adventure Island (or any sequels)
Any NES sports games

Starfox. I just don't see the appeal in flying around in a first-person format. I did play in on DS 11 years ago, though. It was one of my least favorite games for the console.

>>4198238
If you've only just now played Doom and haven't done Quake yet, don't play Half-Life. HL1 greatly relies on your general sense of early FPS tropes for its entire vibe.

>>4199213
Protip: Don't worry about completing or even beating/finishing a game if you haven't ever played it. It's not like you're really getting anything more out of playing and beating every stage in F-Zero than if you just play it until you get bored.

>>4199556
SMB1 and SMB3 have actual challenge because there are no saves and you can't just waltz into Top Secret Area to refill on your items and get infinite 1ups.

>>4202547
You're pretty much right on with most of those except Adventure Island, and sports games can be pretty fucking fun if you're wasted and have a friend, because then you're trying to wrangle with the weird controls and trying to beat each other

>>4202651
Star Fox is a third person game though you idiot

I mostly just buy the classics so I can gut the cart.

>>4199668
Shin megami tensei
might and magic
XCOM
Prince of persia
Sheenmue
Shinobi
Command and conquer
Deus ex
Blazblue

>>4197368
Get the fuck out

>>4199213
YEP

>>4202651
Then you never played sf fuck ds sf

>>4204729
No, you get the fuck out.

>>4199213
>i'll wrap this up by complaining that somewhere along the line, i figure around 2004-2008, games made a shift from games that try to kick your ass and don't give a shit, to games that hold your hand. for a long time, i wondered why i'd gotten bored with videogames. but now i know.
Publishers were making a bid to make games accessible. Brother, they did it, but those people are addicts: they need more and more stimulation to have fun.

I ain't no psychologist, but novelty-seeking is the fastest way to boredom.

They'll keep this shit up until the industry crashes, which is hopefully inevitable.

>this guy is the most famous video game reviewer in my country
>been working for magazines, and then TV channels since the early 90's
>a few years 5 years ago he was testing some modern Mario game and admitted he had never even played a Mario game before except SMW which he never beat

Fucking dropped his casual ass. I mean I always knew he sucked but this was just too much.

Yes, you HAVE to play the classics, and much more than that, especially if you pretend you know stuff about games.

When I was a kid I only had a Genesis, a PS1 and the DOS version of Doom.
Around 5 years ago I realised how much I hate the state of the current gaming industry what with DLC and buggy releases and greedy decisions
So I emulated my genesis games again and realised very little actually frustrated me about old games.
Then I discovered Indie stuff like Shovel Knight and Shantae and then I realised I love pixel art as well.
I decided to go on a binge and emulate all the best entries from iconic franchises from consoles I didn't own, and well there you go.

Now I'm an enormous fan of Metroid and Mega Man. I like Castlevania but it's extremely hit and miss. Contra I find way too difficult.
Starting Link To The Past soon along with FF6, Secret of Mana, and Chrono Trigger.
After them will be ActRaiser, Kirby, Turrican and Earthbound.
Already beat all the Sonics, Earthworms and Sparksters. The wait for PC Sonic Mania is killing me

Nah.

At some points through my life I tried to play the most popular stuff on the NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. But I'm not generally skillful, however I appreciate some of these games.

Nowadays it's more like I find just the right game, no matter how unpopular it is or the genre, there's this one game that I have to fucking keep playing and finish no matter what. I'm more commited but way slower perhaps. Because I spend more time looking for such game than the time that it takes me to play and finish that game, and lately that's been happening with 50 to 100 hour RPGs.

I also tend to play the same shit over and over (exploration based castlevanias, 2d zeldas and metroid) but after years it gets harder to just replay them. I want new shit, but there's not much of that aside from these newer games like Hollow Knight.

There's a plethora of series I can tell you I haven't played for more than an hour that are pretty popular. At least one of the games. For instance:

Silent Hill, Resident Evil, classic Tomb Raider, Crash, Fire Emblem, those I didn't. As much as I loved Doom I don't know why I could never get into Quake and Quake 2 (maybe the issue is that I didn't figure out how to make the controls work smoothly). I finished a lot of lucasarts point and click games but you can't pay me to play anything point and click these days, despite loving them so much. So no King's Quest or anything like that. System Shock. Thief (and this one is sad because I love watching people play Thief) anything like Prince of Persia or Flashback...

I haven't even finished any Final Fantasy except 9 and 7. Sad!

>>4197321
Not for everything.

Original Super Mario was fine. The rest are kinda repetitive but still not bad. The racing game was shit.

Smash bros was okay, but it's really meant for multiplayer. I eventually just installed Crusade on PC.

Sonic was bad and boring. I actually liked Sonic Battle more. I haven't played all games yet.

I finished a few levels of a Kirby game and I deleted it. It was too easy for my taste. But it still looks cute.

I didn't like legend of zelda, but I didn't hate it either.

I tried playing ff series, I very much disliked them and found them uninteresting and dull.

Pokemon was great but slow as fuck. The new games are shit since they're bloating it with a billion Pokémon and I honestly haven't finished anything past gen 5 since it got boring (it's also not retro). I like the gen 4/5 mechanics but only up to gen 3 Pokémon. Gen 1 was broken so I only finished gen 3 remakes.

Spyro 1 was very bad. Spyro 2 is honestly a much better game. Spyro 1 feels like an unfinished beta version of spyro 2.

Crash 1 was enjoyable and a good challenge but the boss fights were terrible. Same with crash 2 and 3. The racing game was amazing though, but the AI is weak as fuck and the multiplayer is limited.

Pacman world was great. The arcade version is a simple and fun game too, but like all arcade games it gets boring quickly.

I didn't like deus ex so I pretty much just passed the first level and deleted it.

Hydlide special was okay but very short.

I've only played quake 3 arena. Simply because it has multiplayer too. I never liked single player fps games, so I never played quake or doom.

Just finished rayman 1. Other than some cheap shots the game was actually beautiful and good. It shouldn't have had limited retries, should've spawned you with 5 lives instead of 3 and shouldn't have been such a grind to get lives.

I tried getting into metroid, megaman, earthbound, earthworm jim, and a few other games but I haven't found time to play them yet.

>>4205039
>Spyro 1 was very bad. Spyro 2 is honestly a much better game. Spyro 1 feels like an unfinished beta version of spyro 2.

Yeah, I remember renting Spyro 1 after playing the demo of Spyro 2 and I just couldn't get into it. And then I rented the fuck out of 2 and 3. I rented those so many times that I could just have bought them, it was dumb.

>>4197321
START WITH THE ATARI

>>4204982
Classic Sonic is way harder than Contra. I hope you get to Contra someday, it's really fun.

>>4197321
ive played most of the classics but only beaten a select few because im a casual. also you how did you own a ps1 and not play spyro??

>>4199135
your loss tbqh senpai

>>4204356
>>4200147
I don't know why this two people are talking to me.

>>4206553
*these

My first console was a GameCube when I was like 4-ish. So I have memories playing Windwaker and Sunshine rather than Link to the Past and 64. I feel like I missed out on a lot of cool stuff so I am here to play some good old games. I missed a bunch of good games that became the "classics" so know I am trying to play them to catch up to you guys.

>>4206773
Enjoy the ride friend. I wish I could go back and play some of these games for the first time again.

>>4206017
Wot.
In Sonic you need only a single ring to prevent death, on top of that there's shields and you can get lives by getting 100 rings or higher scores. There's also continues.

In Contra you get killed by a single bullet which are hard to see because the screen is filled with pellets and you only have 3 lives.

Am I misunderstanding something? Does everybody who likes Contra play with the Konami Code or do they play it the way it was intended?

>>4209187
>do they play it the way it was intended?
As a coin-operated arcade game?

There's a bunch of consolefag shit I haven't played nor will I ever bother playing, because in my experience a lot of these games aren't actually good anyway.

>>4209187
At least the first sonic has a lulzy difficulty spike in scrap brain zone. Contra is a bit different in that it's not that friendly at the beginning but once you get some momentum going you can master it quickly.

>>4209238
>in my experience a lot of these games aren't actually good anyway.
I started playing console games when 3D was a new thing. I can't stand the shitty cameras today.
Is funny that I can tolerate tank controls if I don't have to deal with shitty cameras.

>>4197321
Lots of classic RPG series, including Ultima and Might & Magic. It's embarrassing and I know it.

>>4209187
Contra is not a hard game, it just has a somewhat steep learning curve, so kids get a bunch of game overs on level 1 and scream about how bullshit impossible the game is. It's WAY easier to beat than Sonic 1.

>>4209278
Sonic 1 is even more retarded since you can't game over unless you try to really hard.

>>4209283
You can't game over in Ghosts'n Goblins either, since it has infinite continues from the same spot you start at when you die. Doesn't make it easier than Sonic 1.

>>4209287
Not if you play the Japanese version. Touché.

My only friend keeps pestering me to play SH and SH2 and i feel bad for not playing it. It just looks so slow-paced and dull that i have a hard time believing it's the masterpiece it's so often claimed to be
I'm also pretty autistic about portrayals of fictional religious shit and i imagine it'll trigger the assburgers a fair bit
Only just playing through the Zelda series now

>>4209301
>I'm also pretty autistic about portrayals of fictional religious shit and i imagine it'll trigger the assburgers a fair bit
The religious shit is not that bad.
Going into a building and having 50 interactive doors so only 3 of them are going to open is the worst part of Silent Hill.

>>4199668
Shin Megami tensai
Metroid
Zelda
Shenmue
Phantasy Star
Final fantasy
Dragon quest

Plan on playing the Zelda series in release order later this year.

Plan on playing SMT series next year in release order

Plan on playing dragon quest in order after finishing SMT

I'm going to try samus returns, if I like it, I'll beat all metroid as well

Want to play shenmue really bad before shenmue 3 releases.

Never played Metroid.
Rented it as a kid and just happened to get violently ill. Ever since then I associated it's strange alien world with explosive diarreah and the feeling of death.

>>4206773
Literal young fag. Have fun. Make sure you turn off all your bedroom lights once it becomes night, do whatever will get you into a good mood, and play halo combat evolved for me.

>>4209187
You get continues in Contra too, 3 I think? So if that's right that's 9 lives right off the bat, and you almost always get an extra in the first stage alone plus more with higher scores. So even assuming just 1 extra life per continue you're still getting 12 lives to make it through the game at a minimum. Once you get the spread you're basically invincible anyway.

Sonic is a lot less nimble and is prone to falling into more traps, plus there's a time limit. I've only beaten Sonic 2 (barely) but have finished almost every Contra. They really are ridiculously easy.

Also
>screen is filled with pellets

There's really not much on screen at all ever unless it's your own spread shots. You can easily figure 8 your way around bullets and it's nowhere near the amount you would ever see even in the first stage of any space shooter like Gradius.

>>4197465
One summer, I was out in the middle of nowhere with only a psx and a copy of Chrono Trigger to keep me company. No memory card. Good times.