/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4179761
wtf were they thinking with that goddamn hud?

>>4179761
San Francisco RUSH.

>>4179761
/vr/ fucking loves those games, we used to have at least one active thread at all times a couple years ago

one of the board's favorite games

>>4179761
>playing Bionic Commando for pedos

I seriously hope none of you do this.

>>4179761
Fuck i wish it wasnt 70$
T. Neet poorfag

>>4179761
tough game, great mechanics

also i think umihara would make a great pillow, she's certainly got the goods yeah?

>>4179948
that was how much some games were new back then, and that's not even counting inflation. I have zero empathy for you.

>>4179761
kys pedo

>>4179948
Emulate it then...why are you trying to buy a physical copy of an ancient game that can easily be emulated for free?

>>4180076
>ancient

I think they're fun but a bit samey. I'm not that good at any of them.

I'd like to be better but there's just something about the tether physics I can't wrap my head around. Most impressive thing I've ever done in these games is beat the crab.

Anyone who wants another platformer with surprisingly complex and sometimes frustrating tether mechanics should play Pac in Time on SNES. I think just about anyone who likes uk would like this game as well.

>>4180364
Magical Quest 1 also has that mechanic in some of the levels. I believe the guy from Bionic Commando also worked on this game.

>>4179948
it's so painful to play this game without save states you'd better emulate it.

also I have just started shun and it seems just as fun and hard, too bad it's ugly compared to 1, even the sprites are uglier

>>4179761
Ambitious rope system, but ultimately, you fight it more than you have fun with it.

>>4180313
23 years is kind of a long time

>>4180475
honestly you just haven't crossed the threshold

the game has a system where regardless of your route the game ends after 30 minutes

what you're supposed to do is pick up the game each day and wander around learning new tricks and finding new fields

you play for 30 minutes and then say "okay that's where I made it to this time"

then you stop and pick it up the next day

doing it this way you'll start to reach a really high skill level after about a month, and the game's flow really starts to kick in

once you're actually good at it, it's almost a different game, and it's hard to say if any other game really reaches the same level

>>4180489
I'm not that guy, but in my mind you'd probably have to be markedly younger than the SNES itself to refer to it or any of its games as "ancient" in any way but sarcastically.

>>4180494
In my mind you oldfags are out of touch with reality, mang.

>>4180497
at what point in your entire life have you ever had to deal with the reality of manufacturing tools and machinery, growing your own food, cooking your own meals, paying your own rent, buying your own gas, earning money for your own education, or being responsible for your own safety? you live on top of an entire mountain made up of the efforts of your forefathers, and your entire life is going to amount to a footnote in history, a tiny fraction of what any educated mind would justify as "ancient", and the point at which you recognize your own foolishness and hyperbole you'll already be what you consider now to be a fossil, a relic of a forgotten time, and you'll still have more than half of your life left to work, and suffer, and be responsible for all the expectations of a generation who understands nothing of what you struggled to achieve.

>>4180505
Oh god I ain't gonna read all that.

>>4180506
and that's why no one will pay you more than $15 an hour

>>4180508
:(

>>4180497
>bitching about oldfags despite enjoying old games

YouTube was a mistake.

>>4180518
Glad that hurt you.

feel like a lot of people are giving up on this game too fast. sure the start is rough but once you begin to understand how it works it becomes infinitely more fun

>>4179960
It's an old game tape, it shouldn't be worth shit like an old Atari game. That's the natural order, not paying what shit was new when its old, which was subverted by trash like e-celebs and other degenerate hype.

>>4180526
oops, fixed webm

>>4180492
Spanky's Quest is like this.

>>4179801
It's on purpose. The game is about fast movement in all directions, involving very precise timing. Having the hud centered allows you to see all four corners of the screen clearly.

>>4180459
nigga shun is the most beautiful platformer of all time

the boobiest elementary schooler

Umihara is the best thing ever. No other game approaches its perfect balance between simplicity and depth.

>>4180489
Well yeah, it actually is. You're kind of in the middle, you're old enough to be considered a geezer by teenagers, but not old enough to fit here on /vr/ (and who knows if you'll live long enough to ever become one, you could die tonight)

easy game

>>4181025
bigger

how do i beat this tadpole

>>4183040

>>4183196
FUCKING UMIHARA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4181512
I love watching TAS of this game. Thanks for the webm.

>>4183196
well fug

Bought the games on steam but couldn't get them to work on Linux.
But I have a flashcard for my old DS lite that plays the SNES and PS1 game which is sweet.

Hope to see a new game, love the way the games look and love the gameplay.

>>4183465
>buying games on (((steam)))

good goy

>>4183465
It works flawlessly for me on Linux, what's your problem?

>>4183616
How are you running the game?

>>4183658
Install Steam with Wine, install the game, and that's it.

>>4183673
Ah yes, I tried that and it just didn't run.
But, knowing that it works for you, I will look at it again, I can't recall exactly everything I tried because it's been some time ago.

So I just gave this game a try and I don't quite get how reeling in the line works. Why does it sometimes take her ten hours to reel in when you press down, while other times it's instant?

>>4184457
Timing, gravity, and exactly how far the line is stretched out are important factors. It's hard to explain, but I think you'll get the hang of it if you keep playing.

>>4184528
Yeah, I got it now. The thing that was throwing me off is that your line on your initial cast is a bit longer than what you actually hook onto.

>>4181512
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>4181512
i am so uncomfortable right now

>>4181512
I am not sure, whether someone had shittons of luck, like little cute, blonde girl, playing first time beating long time player in tekken 3 by button mashing Eddy or Hworang or someone just so fucking good he can actually fake being first time player to perfection.

>>4184989
nigger a first time player isn't getting to the crab boss let alone evading it so beautifully, this was probably tool assisted but even that i don't know as you see great players invent challenges during runs for themselves against these boring bosses

>>4183701
How are you trying to run it? I am not him but I also got the games to run simply installing Steam in a 32bit WINEPREFIX and running the game. I have never gotten PlayOnLinux or other """"""""""easy"""""""""" frontends to work for whatever reason so that could be your problem

I feel like there's a similar game to it that I've played a lot to the point where I understood its rope physics. Maybe something on DS but I can't quite remember what game it was.

>>4186739
maybe it's sequel, umihara kawase shun? it got a ds port, not sure how retarded you are so just bringing it up anyways

Is Umihara Kawase vaporwave?

>>4186812

>>4186808
Love this artwork.

>>4186812
Are you vaporwave?

>>4187021
me too, i think shun is the best looking of the games. sure a bit visually messy but surely the best art direction. i got a shitload of wallpapers from the steam cards page or whatever

>>4187028
I also like the 2D sprites in 3D environment that shun had.
Wish Sayonara stuck with that but I won't complain too much, though the 3D in Sayonara looked a bit cheap.

>>4187043
it definitely could look better, im still upset at pc sayonara using a resolution lower than 3ds and the fact that there used to be a third party way to fix this which was patched out. would look way better at a higher resolution

>>4186808
No I remember now. It was a silly multiplayer flash game but it had rope physics extremely similar to umihara

>>4187049
Sometimes I get really bothered by the way things are going.
Got to remember to be grateful that I got to play these games at all.

i wish shun and sayonara looked weirder and more mysterious. the first one looks a bit like a dream, maybe because of technical limitations but still, i like these aesthetics. it looks like an artsy indie game before they were cool

>>4187063
who is grateful for being able to play games they have financially supported? makes no sense, they got what they wanted from the transaction. i still find it shitty just how awful a port it is, i bet i would unironically have a better experience emulating sayonara in citra. they would rather waste time adding vive support which is nothing more than an unplayable novelty for this series than to actually improve the port itself. even the shun steam port forces bilinear filtering with no way to turn it off, unlike the original game's steam port, it is inexcusable. i feel like ive wasted my money buying a bundle because only the first game is an improvement in any way over the original. however i am an autistic fuck who cannot even get interested in the newest game's port because of it's glaring flaws. still though i am not going to mindlessly slurp up the shits they take, i played the game before they bothered localizing anything after all so fuck them i know where their priority lies

>>4187183
I wasn't really talking about steam, just the games in general most of which I pirated before because they weren't released outside Japan in the first place and I'm glad I got to play them because they are truly unique games that I've spent many hours on.

What steam has done, I won't try to find an excuse for it, I wish they kept their hands off of it even if I was rather excited when I first heard about the steam release.

>>4187942
Man I love this artstyle.

>>4188853
It's absolutely great.

>>4187942
>>4189154
copic felt pens and fine liners are so expensive if you don't use them for work though

>>4189225
unf

i just got my saturn pad USB adapter and it's far better than an xbox360 pad for this game, just letting you know

>>4189225
You can also try it with watercolor and dip pens for ink to achieve a similar effect, but I assume it will be harder to pull off.

Kinda loved the old backgrounds for some weird reasons.

>>4180475
>ultimately, you fight it more than you have fun with it
Nah, the controls and physics are all tight and responsive. It's like learning to ride a bike; you're gonna fall and scrape your knee a few times before it actually starts being fun. Pic related.

>>4180492
This anon gets it.

In short, git gud.

Too much hard for me.

>>4183040
that other guy's strat is dumb, here's the best one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2298KUhVmI

If they got rid of the boss "fights" it would be perfect. I wanna have fun zipping around the environments, not stand around waiting for a big enemy to walk back and forth across a platform 30 times.

>>4180475
a few tips if you're as dumb as me and didn't realize them quickly :
-you can extend/shorten the line when you're still on the ground
-it's easy to climb vertical walls, just press up, down quickly when the line is short. Releasing the hook also makes it easier to climb ledges.

when I understood these things and how to rocket jump, the gameplay got perfect.

>>4190758
Nah man, I don't want them gone, I'd rather see them improved a bit.
I kinda like the change of pace and having to figure out what to do.

These games are what I had the most fun with in recent years, even though I was reeled in by the cute animu girl pic on the 3DS eShop years ago, I stayed for the gameplay.
They are tough games but the gameplay feels so rewarding, when you finally manage to swing confidently it feels like a true accomplishment, no leveling, trophies or fanservice necessary, just pure skill.

>>4191672
The Vita version of Sayonara Umihara Kawase had some really fun boss fights. I think the new pufferfish was perfect, since you can beat it in just a few seconds, and it's actually fun making it bounce all over the screen.

>>4187093
Doesn't Shun fit that description perfectly?

>>4193212
I don't know if it's what that anon meant, but to me the first game looks like some kind of art project, with the grainy black and white photos and all. Shun looks much more like a typical console game of the time.

Anyone know where I can find some of the assets of Shun?
Like spritesheets, backgrounds and other visual elements.

>>4193635
Not sure about backgrounds, but you can get various sprites (Umihara herself, enemies, miscellany) from the Spriter's Resource.
https://www.spriters-resource.com/playstation/umiharakawaseshun/

>>4180508
I too judge the value of an employee but how long of an autistic, delusional rant on 4chan they're willing to waste their reading.

>>4193645
Thanks mate, that's pretty much what I was looking for.

>>4193394
Are you kidding? Shun keeps the grainy backgrounds, but replaces all of the graphics with hand-painted watercolor sprites and paper cutouts and such. It's one of the most visually unique games I've played.

>>4193394
yes that's what i meant. 1 doesn't feel like a SNES game, it's not formatted enough.

>>4193903
it may look unique but it's too colorful, the backgrounds aren't rainy and there's no brown-grey environment like the harbor levels in 1, which are my favorite (i could be wrong though, i haven't beaten it yet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74ObVoNilE

>>4180506
It's just some boomer that sounds like they don't even browse this board.

who didn't lose their mind over this?

>>4196951
Finished it once and thats enough for me.

>>4196951
I only really hate the super high jump, this one and bridge slingshot don't really bother me

I'm okay with the upside down field too

i think i've seen all stages but i haven't seen these enemies circled in red. where are they?

>>4197170
I don't think those are actually used in the game.
Someone on /vr/ made a ROMhack that adds them back in.

>>4181512
FUCK!

>>4179948
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/85452/

just wait for the pack to go on sale again

best enemy, always try to save him whatever it costs

>>4197170
These sprites look actually quite good for what I assumed was a low-budget game.

>>4199259
The artist is really good. The games are essentially a programmer, an artist, and a few musicians, so there's a lot of character in every aspect of it.

Since the backgrounds are just photographs and the environments are very simple, pretty much all of the artist's work went into the sprites.

>>4196951
if you think it's hard on the PC version, try playing it on the SNES version where you have random slowdown because the rope's long. Stuff like this makes me wish that Nintendo had licensed Sega's blast processing technology.

>>4192319

What if her titties smacked her in the face when she jumped?

>>4196951
This is actually one of my favorite levels in the game.

>>4199383
can someone find this programer and ask for a level editor? i'm sure a lot of weebs would made him rich if he accepted

>>4200382
http://kawasefan.net/umihara-kawase-level-editing

eShop release, when?

>>4200549
What do you mean? Sayonara Umihara Kawase is already on the eshop, even if it's unplayable now thanks the steam and vita releases being infinitely better. You can play the first two games on DS, too, with some very slight problems. Just get a vita so you can play the best versions of all three games.

>>4200783
Hmm?
Shun is on the vita?
I've been playing the DS version but I thought only Sayonara was on the veets.

>>4200783
I dunno, I'd rather see something like a trilogy release on the Switch.
(or a new game but I won't get my hopes up)

>>4200802
All three games are on the vita. Sayonara is bundled with an improved version of the SNES game that has the original music (as opposed to the DS ver with weird synthesizers), the more accurate timer, and a stage select.

Then, Shun 2nd edition is available on (Japanese) PSN as a PS1 classic. Same deal with the DS version, the audio quality is better (no weird ds synthesizers) and the graphics are less compressed.

>>4200815
>no d-pad
no

>>4200382
It's a pretty minor series, both in Japan and overseas. I don't think it'll be profitable no matter what they do. The most exposure it ever got was on that Game Center CX episode.

I'd sure like for more people to know about it though.

>>4200815
A new game would be nice, but I wouldn't want it on the switch. If there was one, it'd probably be switch/ps4 though, considering Blade Strangers.

>>4200819
Meh I thought so.
I knew Sayonara came bundled with the SFC ver but I may as well play Shun on my PSP if I have to go through the effort of topping up my jap psn account.

>>4200982
>that vita d-pad
>that OLED
It's worth the effort.

(bump)

Need this game with some high-res sprites and boob physics.

>>4203551
If you want high resolution Umihara with bouncing breasts, there's that fighting game coming out.

>>4203551

With boobs as big as that, Umihara should consider a side job as a wet nurse.

>>4203873
What is the deal with wet nurse anyway? Is there a dry nurse I don't know about?

anyone from /vr/ appears in the rankings on the steam version? if so who are you? I'm Blobby and pretty proud to appear in quite a lot of stages

>>4179761
>>4179801
I tend to play with that layer disabled, even though it also takes away the waves on top of the water.

>>4204860
>version that requires you to install brony sexting app to play the game
No, thank you.

>>4204860
Pretty sure I'm on the leaderboad for stage 17, here's my super secret strat

https://youtu.be/kZRbHu029co

What's your favorite song from the series?

Think About the Needs of Notice for Human Being is still my favorite publisher name of all time. Did they ever release anything else?

>>4207489
Either Hatoba theme (the dock themed stages) or the song it plays when you beat the game in Shun.

>>4179948
Get a repro cart

>>4179948
here you go my dude, you'll thank me later
http://buyee.jp/item/search/query/海腹川背?translationType=1

>>4207517
too bad repros are a meme (plus, most of them don't save, meaning you won't be able to keep your sick replays)

>>4207495
They also did a Super Famicom soccer game in 1995.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/shij-saiky-league-serie-a-ace-striker