/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4168032
What fucking youtube/reddit/etc hellhole did you pull this out of? PCs were invented in 2001, really? Tell me more. Where's Atari?

>>4168037
Wow you're dumb. It says 'when Sega stopped making consoles'. Did Atari make consoles in the 2000s? Retard.

Sega stopped making consoles around the time I stopped giving a shit about new console games. Honestly I don't even like the Dreamcast, 6th gen+ is practically all dead to me.

>>4168037
Yeah why the hell did PC only pop up in 6h gen

Brand loyalty was always 89IQ.

>>4168040
Atari stopped making consoles in 1996. Atari consoles and home computers existed between 1983 and 2001, why are they missing? Retard.

The only true answer is Xbox, they were the only console that didn't do anything to directly ruin Sega. Also all the sweet Dreamcast games that got moved onto the Xbox from 2001-2004. Sega's strategy was to make their games exclusive to consoles that matched the target demographic, but their refusal to do anything with Sony until Sonic Heroes made the Xbox a go-to. Besides Billy Hatcher and PSO the GCN got a bunch of Sonic ports and that's it, Xbox got Shenmue, Panzer Dragoon, Crazy Taxi, OutRun, JSR, Sega Sports etc etc.
GameCube is acceptable because of Sega's exclusives which were all top tier, and because Nintendo had also been raped by Sony by 2001 and was no longer the bitter rival it was in the SNES era.
If you went to PS2 you were a traitorous faggot. I was a Nintendo kid but I hated Sony for making Nintendo seem shitty and had a soft spot for Sega after seeing them turn to literal shit, I didn't get a PS2 until the Slim was insanely cheap in 2006 and even then it was only for MGS3.

>>4168053
Because this chart was made by a 12 year old. Reminds me of pic related.

>>4168057
Because it clearly says 'loyal Segafags', meaning for people who only bought Sega consoles. Why are you so upset?

>>4168032
Sega was always my favorite company. In their wake, my new favorite eventually became Microsoft. That wasn't until about half way through the 360's life though.

I like Nintendo as a company but don't care for most of their 1st party games.

I don't particularly like Sony as a company and don't care for most of their first party games.

I buy any console that has at least 5 exclusives I really want to play though. There's no company I flat out hate or won't support.

>retro

>>4168071
>Because it clearly says 'loyal Segafags', meaning for people who only bought Sega consoles.

Disregard this >>4168078 then. I didn't know you meant people who only supported one company. I like Sega, but not to the exclusion of others.

>>4168062
What's sad is the strong possibility that guy was born in '76 and is over 40. Age has no bearing on stupidity.

>>4168032
If you're only basing this 3rd gen+ why not include the pv-1000 in pc just under the NES?
also why are the no slots for the other third gen consoles. This chart is bullshit. there were more then two systems in third gen.

>>4168062
Image 10/10

>XBOX is the new Dreamcaaaaast
Was as a retarded back then as it is now. I remember a lot of people trying to push the meme but other than some good Sega exclusives the two systems were nothing alike. Dreamcast was all about Arcades, Fighting Games and weird experimental stuff, XBOX was the shooters system.

>>4168097

I imagine alot of people fell for it because the Dreamcast has a Windows logo on the front

>>4168097
The mainstream perception of the Hueg was an FPS console because of Halo, and because PC developers could make games on it and because of the Xbox Live factor. But dig deeper into its library and you'll find all sorts of experimental, cutting edge games that didn't happen on other systems.
Dreamcast and Xbox both had huge amounts of very well made PC ports, like Doom3, Half-Life 2, Morrowind.
There were also lots of strange Japanese games, giant mechas, and anime tits.
And the Xbox even got RPGs that were totally unlike anything else.

>>4168097
That's nice. But SFIV was the start of the resurgence of fighting games popularity and mostly due to 360's online.

>>4168032
In my youth I generally always had whatever the newest console was. Admittedly, I did get a super Nintendo rather late, but whatever.
Thing is when I wanted a Saturn I could never find one in local shops. Not many games either. It was like the local market had just abandoned Sega by that point. I mean,I never even saw a Sega CD or 32x in person until recently.

Dreamcast was such a huge ting when it launched that the local mall actually stayed open over night so retards could wait in line for it's official release, but all that excitement quickly died down.
I got a Dreamcast for Xmas that year,got like 10 games with it and loved it but by the time the ps2 was widely available, DC was just dead and gone.

I guess what I mean is that I always gave Sega a chance, and even enjoyed the genesis and DC am LOT, but they never really delivered. From my perspective, anyway.

>>4168114
>But dig deeper into its library and you'll find all sorts of experimental, cutting edge games that didn't happen on other systems.

I'm glad someone else here finally noticed this. Yes, there were ton's of FPS games, but there were also TONS of other kinds of games. People here often just look at the top 10 best sellers and ignore everything else.

>>4168130
There were actually so many non-FPS games that Microsoft made a split in the Platinum Hits line, all the E-rated titles were Platinum *Family* Hits. The Xbox launched with a huge variety, trying to get anyone and everyone they could sell a console to installed. In it's first calender year, it got platformers like Blinx, SEGA Arcade games, shooters like Halo, action games like Mechwarrior and GunValkyrie, and both arcade type extreme sports and simulation sports games. By the time it died, MS had experimented with all kinds of RPGs, like Phantom Dust, and Japanese companies did things like NUDE.

>>4168057
>Atari consoles and home computers existed between 1983 and 2001
The 2600 came out in 1977.

>>4168158
>Atari 5200
>Atari 7800
>Atari XEGS
>Atari Jaguar
>Atari Lynx
Fucking summer.

>>4168158
Based wikipedia.

>>4168150
Next to Genesis, by the end the 360 was my second favorite console of all time and I never played an FPS game on it. I haven't been into any FPS's since Tribes. Between the boxed releases, arcade games and even some gems in the indie games, the volume and scope of games on that thing was amazing. Also their policy of supporting demos and every arcade and indie game needing to have a playable demo was a fantastic move.

>>4168179
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is still the unsung hero of the gen, IMO.

>>4168158
>>4168171
What the fuck are you talking about? Atari consoles existed between 1983 and 2001. The fact that the 2600 came out in 1977 proves that.

>>4168032
>PC
PC doesn't count.

Anyways I jump ship to Xbox because it was the superior console at the time & the closest thing to an upgraded Dreamcast.

Then I bought the Xbox 360 for the sole reason that they had a Splinter Cell exclusive(Splinter Cell Conviction).

After that generation, I ended up buying the PS4. This decision was made after I had backed the Shenmue 3 kickstarter. But by then, I already owned multiple game consoles such as the Sega Genesis, Dreamcast, SNES, N64, Gamecube, PS1, PS3, Xbox & Xbox 360.

So honestly my loyalty died when I decided to buy consoles from all brands. Although I avoided the Wii & Wii U. I might end up getting the Switch, but for now I'll just wait & see what games come out for it.

>>4168179
We're talking about the original Xbox anon. To call the original Xbox the best console of it's day is false and disingenuous but it's not the steaming shitpile people say it is. Now that I think about it, the 6th Gen was the last time every console was worth buying for their entire catalogs and not just a handful of exclusives.

>>4168037
This is just consoles, there are no home computers mentioned.

>>4168198
>To call the original Xbox the best console of it's day is false and disingenuous
No, it's false and disingenous to to proclaim that a particular console is factually not the best just becaue you disagree. Personally, I'd give the nod to Dreamcast or GameCube, but Xbox is a fucking league ahead of the mega-retarded PS2 which I'm sure an evangelist like yourself will say was the best of its gen due to a superior library of movie games and PC ports.

>>4168198
That's nice. I don't really care what you were talking about.

>>4168202
You are not a smart man.

>>4168207
The PS2 was a better console than the Xbox based solely on how good the games were. Lots of 10/10s on both but the PS2s large library gives it a larger amount of 10/10s and even 8+/10 games. Factually, the Xbox had the weakest library of that gen, but every single console was worth owning and had 40 amazing games at least.

>>4168213
Not him but you're literally stating your opinion as if it's objective fact.

>>4168213
>The PS2 was a better console than the Xbox based solely on how good the games were.
That's your meaningless opinion.

> Lots of 10/10s on both but the PS2s large library gives it a larger amount of 10/10s and even 8+/10 games
And what 10/10 games would these be? I seriously cannot think of a single game I would define as being "10/10" on the PS2 that isn't also available on another console, and I've played many. In fact, most of the PS2 exclusives are pretty fucking rotten, especially the normie shit like God of War.

>Factually, the Xbox had the weakest library of that gen, but every single console was worth owning and had 40 amazing games at least
LOL "factually", there's nothing factual about you fucking shitbird. Look at this pompous faggot acting like he's the arbiter of quality. No wonder your retarded ass likes the PS2.

>>4168210
Why?

>>4168226
Because the OP image mentions home computers. I didn't mean Atari home computers specifically by the way, in case that's the confusion.

>>4168032
Nowhere. Dreamcast was my last console. I'm that mad.

>>4168229
It mentions PCs, not the same thing. Why were you talking about Atari, then?

>>4168213
>Factually, the Xbox had the weakest library
>Factually
Lmao...

>>4168232
Two separate points. I'm saying PC's didn't "start" in the XP era, and while you're at it video games in the generation 3-4-5 "retro" era weren't constrained to just Sega, Nintendo, and Sony either.

>>4168232
How is it not the same thing? The chart mentions PCs, not "IBM Compatibles." Other home computers were still "personal computers."

>>4168236
>I'm saying PC's didn't "start" in the XP era
I'm not arguing for that.
>video games in the generation 3-4-5 "retro" era weren't constrained to just Sega, Nintendo, and Sony either.
Did Atari make consoles, too? I know Amstrad and Commodore tried that, but largely failed.

>>4168238
It's just how we differentiate between the two, kid. We've been doing it forever.

>>4168224
Zone of Enders 2 is pretty fucking awesome though.

Console wars are beyond retarded.

>>4168240
Then how do you explain the OP?

>>4168238
Notice how Mac carefully marketed it's brand of personal computer as "not a PC". PC means windows machine to 99% of the world, idiotic as the term is.

>>4168242
What about it?

>>4168242
Made by a mouth-breathing retard who knows nothing about pc gaming.

>>4168250
This part.

What is so fucking hard to understand about this? Communicating with you autists is impossible. I say "why does this chart think home computers as gaming devices started with windows xp" and instead I've got to fend off a bunch of retards telling me "ACTSHUUUUUALLY...."

>>4168114
>xbox
>anime tits
Please point me in that direction for research purposes

>>4168032
I stopped once they stopped making mechanical arcades so about 30 years before your list starts

>>4168258
No mention of home computers is made. You seem confused.

>>4168258
It's clearly a shitty image made by a stupid person. Why are you spending so much energy worrying about it?

>>4168259
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball.

>>4168032
I got a Gamecube, Xbox, PS2 and later, 360, Wii and PS3 so that I could enjoy third-party Sega games, and more.

I skipped this gen though, full-time master race now.

>>4168241
Yeah, at the end of the day its just a shame that gaming has gone the way it has. It doesn't matter what nostalgia tells you what was best 20 years ago.

>>4168114
>But dig deeper into its library and you'll find all sorts of experimental, cutting edge games that didn't happen on other systems.
Even if that were true, it's not to the extent of how many zany games the Dreamcast got.

>>4168273
Well on that we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it just gets better and better. But each to their own.

>>4168267
I made one throw-away comment and now half the thread has been people picking apart my exact wording. I feel like fucking donald trump. It's like no one can see how stupid this image is even though you can immediately recognize a slightly misleading wording, that doesn't even change the meaning of my complaint! Both IBM-compatible and non-IBM home computers and personal computers existed and were commonly used for playing video games contemporaneously to the other consoles on this chart.

>>4168032
Is this image implying that Dreamcast is gen 5.5?

>>4168280
>I feel like fucking donald trump.
Well, when you say and do stupid shit what do you expect?

If you're part of the tiny percentage of people still supporting him, this whole thing makes a lot more sense though. That's for sure.

>>4168292
The world will be better off without white "people".

>>4168032
I'm currently discovering the awesomness of all those arcade ports on the 360.
https://youtu.be/KTmP2-7nHEo
https://youtu.be/PqzszZNNyaI

>>4168241
It's the same person butthurt of PS on those 5th gen threads. You can tell by the /v/-tier reaction images.

>>4168296
lol what the fuck are you on about now?

>>4168305
What? I'm agreeing with you.

>>4168314
If you think you're agreeing with me then you're mentally ill. I don't have anything against any sort of people by way of ethnicity, certainly not white people.

>>4168324
What? You know it's white "people" who support Trump, right?

/pol/fags just got btfo

>>4168258
PC isn't a part of the console wars. So why even add it, when it has no generation cycle?

That was easy and satisfying

I will get a mega drive soon

>>4168842
>skipped Gamecube
Way to miss out on the best adventure/FPS, the best fighting game, the best racing game, and the best platformer of that gen, bro.

>>4168908
>the best fighting game
But Third Strike wasn't on GameCube

>>4168939
>DUDE PARRIES LMAO
>best fighting game

>>4168032
what it do

>>4168908
Third Strike
Garou: MotW
KoF 98 UM
KoF 02 UM
MvC 2

wasnt on Gamecube, but yes the best figthing game of that generation Capcom vs SNK 2 was on GC just not the best version

>>4168969
It's Melee, you fucking retard.

>>4168032
Pc

>>4168994
You have to be over 18 to post on this website.

>>4169016
You have to be over 18 to post on this website.

>>4168994
>>4168994

>>4168994
>melee
>fighting game

>>4168969
>KOF
>MvC
>fighting

>>4168032
Really got into the Mega Drive and Saturn, only now I am digging into the Dreamcast after finding it again. Still am a little lost on if the Master System is worth owning or not.
Lost interest in console gaming around the 7th generation, near the end of the 360's life. although Xbox had a lot of the same eccentric titles that SEGA consoles got. The Original Xbox has some great stuff but I'm not particularly attached to that brand. Jumped ship after The One and The PS4 due to their disasterous launches and consoles seem to be homogenized anyway. I'm not really too into modern gaming but PC is sufficient for everything plus it has an interesting library as it is.

>>4168032
>where did you jump ship?
I went down with the ship.
Sanshiro is saddened by the stupidity of and in this thread

>>4168032
This is actually the worst chart I've ever seen in my life.

>>4168032
Fixed.

>>4169654
>Not including PC Engine CD-ROM
>Not including color TV Game
>Including british 'microcomputers' with non IBM-PC compatible architectures
>including the Play Station prototype for some reason

Started on the Mega Drive, dad gave away our Saturn before we could use it and went from the Dreamcast to the Xbox and Gamecube, then to Wii and 360, then finally a PS3 and currently own all current gen consoles and a switch.

Mum bought the Mega Drive in 95 and then a Saturn in 96 but our dad gave it away to relatives before Christmas, we had Gameboy's to hold us over, so when the Dreamcast came out my brothers and I had a choice between the N64 or Dreamcast, we chose Dreamcast and enjoyed it until 2001 or so when my brother got an Xbox for his birthday, and we got a Gamecube for Christmas.

For some reason we never cared for Sony consoles, although I did get a PSOne sometime in 2004 with like 3 games. When Gen 7 hit we got a Wii then a 360 two years later. I eventually bought a PS3 myself in 2012 and played games I missed out on. God Hand being one of them.

This gen we just bought every console, and barely play anything besides the PS4.

I went NES -> Gen -> PS1

After that, I pretty much just got everything that came out. N64, DC, PS2, Xbox, GC, etc. I didn't really become a true Sega fan until the DC even though I played the Genesis the most out of my first 3 consoles. I went back and got a Saturn later on.

>>4170296
>>4170296
>If Sega excluded the add ons then NEC has to do the same.
>Gen 1 is excluded.
>PCs were expensive back thin, and thats in 1980s money.
>Sony never made Turbo-Rs.

PS2, even though the Xbox had a selection that interested me more.

I've always been SEGA/PC though, so I had that to fall back on too.

>>4168969
>Capcom vs SNK 2
>The game that's worse than both KoF and SF somehow the best fighter of the generation

This place sometimes...

Growing up poorfag sure did suck.

I've still got all my original consoles, as well as a Master System, Saturn and GameCube.

>>4168040
lol, XP is PS1 era

>>4171250

>poorfag
>supa nintendo sega genesis

I was always an idort, but I got a PS2 after I got a Dreamcast if that answers your question. Not really /vr/ though, so fuck off.

Sega's different exclusives for different systems was really dumb as their fanbase didn't know where to go and they kind of splintered and no one really got their "fanbase".

Maybe if all their games had been multiplatform at the start or if they had been exclusive to one system then the fans could've moved to one system and Dreamcast era Sega could've continued instead of morphing into what it is now, but since it splintered their fanbase across three systems then there was never enough "sega fanbase" in one console to have Sega succeed as a third party publisher. I still remember how they said they wanted to be the biggest third party publisher and were aiming to shot EA down kek

So yeah what happened to sega fans?
A big part moved to the PS2 since it was the biggest of the three consoles and easily the most logical console to get in that gen.

Many moved to Gamecube since it was getting all the Sonic Team games as exclusives as well as other Sega games and Nintendo seemed like a good fit.

Many moved Xbox since it was also getting other Sega exclusives, the controller was similar and in general they seemed to be more like "sega" catering to an older audience and the "new guys" of the block.


So yeah Sega fans were split in 3. What did I do? I went to Nintendo because I was still a kid and wanted my sonic games.

>>4168032
Sega games were never great enough to warrant its own console, unlike say, Nintendo or Sony. Imagine if Capcom or Namco had their own consoles, they would've ended up the same as Sega did.

>>4171953
Sony's games aren't great enough either. Most of the acclaimed PS1 classics are third-party releases.

>>4168051
great minds think alike. except i like dreamcast. but thats about as new as ill go

I went to the Xbox. it had a Jet Set Radio Future, and that was good enough for me. also Halo CE, but mostly JSRF. unfortunately, Sega are shit at keeping anything good going, and the PS2 has the most powerful library of that generation. I got a PS2 later, and have stuck with them, since.

I would like to get some of Nintendo's systems, since I miss the fun, cartoony games of my youth, but fuck, do those systems suck.

>>4171934
>I still remember how they said they wanted to be the biggest third party publisher and were aiming to shot EA down kek

in a way they did with the 2k sports games

>>4171978
Dude, Ape Escape was the best 3D platformer of fifth gen.

>>4172032
Also Legend of Dragoon was a pretty great jRPG for their first attempt.

>>4168061
t.fanboy

>>4168224
The more popular console is objectively better. If the Xbox was better it would have been the one that became the best selling console of all time, but the PS2 did.

>>4168994
But that's a party game anon

>>4168908
>the best adventure/FPS,
Gamecube didn't get Deus Ex.

>the best fighting game,
Gamecube didn't get Virtua Fighter 4.

>the best racing game,
Gamecube didn't get Burnout 3.

>and the best platformer
Gamecube didn't get Jak & Daxter.

>>4168908
>Best racing game was on game cube
Best racing game was Sega GT 2002 on the Xbox

>>4168032
>>4168842
>>4168875
>>4168949
What am I /vr/?

>>4168969
I agree that all those fighting games kick ass but the GC Version of CVS 2 was garbage. Stick to the DC or Arcade version.

>>4171227
Its a great game, I enjoyed it more than CVS 1 and other SF and KOF entries. Where else can you play as Rock, Geese, Iori, Kyo, and Terry alongside Sagat, Yun, Chun Li, and M. Bison?

>>4171748
One thing I forgot to point out, up to PS2 I got each console a generation late, so I got the SNES and Genesis when the PS1 and N64 came out because my cousins would give them to me

>tfw I had a Genesis, Gameboy, and Game Gear at home and played NES and SNES at my after-school program as a kid

It pays to be an idort.

>>4173332
>he missed out on PC Engine, Amiga, and Neo Geo

You weren't a true idort.

>>4173291
A human

>>4173353
I lived in the American South. Two of those things weren't commonplace and one was way too expensive to buy for a grade schooler.

>>4173367
You bought your consoles as a grade schooler?
Mad respect man

>>4173372
I wasn't mowing lawns, vacuuming old relative's houses, and washing cars for nothing.

That was the deal I made with my folks; if I can buy the console, they would buy the games.

>>4168032
I started on the NES, my father sold that so he can get me a new game console. I had a choice between the Sega Genesis & a Super Nintendo. I picked the Sega Genesis mainly because of how cool it looked. By the time I got home, I started playing Sonic The Hedgehog. Made me a Sega fan ever since then.

So by the time it was 1996, I got myself a Sega Saturn, but when they discontinued games for it in 1998, I immediately got myself a Playstation. But by 1999, I got myself a Dreamcast. I was a very spoiled kid back then.

By 2001, I knew they had discontinued producing Dreamcast games. So I bought an original Xbox. Which led to me getting a Xbox 360.

By 2014 I had about 9 game consoles such as PS1, PS3, Sega Genesis, Dreamcast, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Xbox & Xbox 360.

In 2016 I bought a PS4 because of an upcoming exclusive they'll have(Shenmue 3).

Originally I was going to go PC, but I realized that if I were to try PC gaming, I have to match up with the minimum requirements needed for newer games. The parts needed to "build a PC" were way overpriced & confusing, because there's so many options on what parts to get, didn't know where to start. I'm no nerd, so I figured "fuck this shit", it was cheaper & simpler to just to get myself a new game console.