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>>4163403
That's cool. Not gonna complain about more Bangai-O for me.

shit bait thread. respond, and be doomed a faggot forever.

>>4163403

their games have a certain charm. They are quite unique, enjoyable, but not amazing.

I've been meaning to play Mischief Makers, not because its a treasure game specifically but because i really want to use a dpad game since most of my analog sticks are pretty worn. Is it good, worth $15 ?

>>4163458
I think it's one of Treasure's weaker games, but it's not bad. Most people seem to love it.

Their games are fun, the only ones that i think are significantly good are radiant silvergun and guardian heroes

>>4163457
Everyone has an opinion.

>>4163506
>Everyone has an opinion.

Reminder that at least one of the anti-Treasure guys on /vr/ (if not the only one) believes all people who like Treasure are Nintendo fans:
>>/vr/thread/S4157743#p4159602
>>/vr/thread/S4157743#p4159652

Don't take his opinions seriously.

>>4163403
Me too.
Did you have to do a thread for this though?

Gunstar Heroes
Guardian Heroes
Sin & Punishment 1 & 2
Astro Boy
Bangaioh (I only played the DS and 360 games)

Treasure have a bunch of great games, I've struggled with some of their pure shooters, but that just because isn't my genre.

>>4163710
Their shooters are just harder than the rest of their library. They're arcade games, so they had to be designed to be difficult.

>>4163683
Thanks for giving me attention Nintendobaby.

>>4163769
Thanks for making a Treasure thread, I love seeing their logo in the catalog.
Also
>implying I'm a NIntendobaby
I'm a Sega guy, but nice traumas you've got there.

>>4163831
>implying I made this thread
Nope, that was my first post. I also wasn't the only one arguing with you in the other thread, although those posts were both mine.
>pretending being any kind of fanboy is better
So you're a faggot with purple hair instead of pink. Makes no difference to me really.

>>4163716
And even by shmup standards compared to say, Cave or Psikyo, they aren't all that difficult. And their scoring systems are trash.

>>4163925
Yeah they don't have second loops, beat it once and it's over.

>>4163925
RSG is kinda dumb but I like Ikaruga's scoring. Unlike RSG, you only need to let enemies live if you fuck up your chain.

>>4163856
>Nope, that was my first post.
And I have to believe you because?
>I also wasn't the only one arguing with you in the other thread
I actually haven't posted in that other thread.
>Makes no difference to me really.
Nah, if you're so adamant about your hate for Treasure because "nintendobabbies", then you have a thing for Nintendo.
Anyway I didn't say I'm a Sega fanboy, just that I grew up with Sega consoles so I have more affinity with Sega than Nintendo, but I'm not really a fanboy, meaning I also don't hate Nintendo.
Keep hating on Treasure though, your opinions will never be popular so it's fun to see guys like you popping around this board.

>>4163960
>Keep hating on Treasure though, your opinions will never be popular

Treasure is kind of dead, you know

>>4163976
Kinda, but they're still milking money off their old games, like Ikaruga which was released on Steam.
People would go nuts if they release RSG HD on Steam, dunno why they haven't yet. Probably don't need to, I think most of the Treasure guys are busy doing other freelance work, or maybe just enjoying life.
Ultimately, this is /vr/, so we're talking about their /vr/ era.
The opinion that "Treasure sucks" is indeed unpopular, but it's interesting, I'd like to discuss with people who actually hate Treasure, since it's so rare to find such individuals. The bad part is that they don't really want to discuss.

>>4163403

>>4164001
Last I heard the director of RSG/Ikaruga was making another shmup, but that was years ago so who knows where that went.

Pretty sure the only people who enjoy treasure games are kids who've never played an actual arcade game

>>4164029
Them, and whichever butthurt mod removed all the comments from people who don't like Treasure.

>>4164029
what if I enjoy the actual arcade games they made

>>4164029
>if you like X, then you can't like Z
>only X group of people young than me like Treasure
Okay.
>>4164035
Yeah man, I've heard the mods are all ex-Treasure employes that make sure people don't have bad opinions about them!
Oh wait, never mind, shitposts can barely be called opinions.

>>4164001
It's just a typical reaction from hipsters to popular companies honestly, nothing special. On the opposite there are diehard Treasure fans that genuinely believe they are the top of the top and shit like that.
It's obvious that the interaction of these two just leave us to a lot of shitpost

>>4164051
>Oh wait, never mind, shitposts can barely be called opinions.
Some Treasure fans are just as shitposty´ and the mods just don't care, it really makes u think

>>4164029
This. Treasure shmups are for people who don't play shmups.

>>4164051
>your post is negative about treasure? shitpost!
>your post is positive about treasure? goodpost!

Fuck off, autist. /vr/ isn't your personal safespace.

>>4164069
>>4164061
I honestly don't see that many "die hard Treasure" fans", just people that like their games (or some of them).
Anti-Treasure guys are a lot more vocal, and they barely have opinions, other than "I hate Treasure because normies" or posting that "trash" picture, I mean, so far I haven't seen Treasure fans taking the time to make these shitpost images.

>>4164076
>your post is negative about treasure? shitpost!
One thing is to be negative, another thing is to shitpost freely by claiming all people who like Treasure are "kids" or "normies" or whatever. In the end, you don't really dislike the company, you have a thing for some supposed fanboys of the company.
>your post is positive about treasure? goodpost!
Not necessarily.

>>4164086
It happens a lot outside of /vr/. The anti-Treasure posting that occurs here is probably just venting against that.

>>4164093
Then why come to /vr/ to vent about something that happens outside?
Also, I dunno, I don't think Treasure has THAT many die hard fans.
Why I don't see the same amount of vitriol against other developers? I mean, you claim you hate Treasure because you only like arcade games, right? I don't see you shitposting with the same passion against devs like id or Square, which have a lot of fans around here.

>>4164086
>I honestly don't see that many "die hard Treasure" fans",
Speak for yourself, I've a been namecalled as "anti-treasure" a bunch of times when not even talking about Treasure at all, I've read posts about their games being pretty much the only worth playing in their respective genres as the rest is shit.
some treasure fans are just as passionate shitposters as anti-treasure

>>4164096
Wow, Treasurefags really were a mistake.

>>4164096
If there are people like that, they're obviously a lot less vocal than the anti guys.
I've been checking Treasure threads lately and I've only seen passionate haters, then people saying they like their games, or some of them, and that's it. The main argument in these threads is that the hate gets a bit exaggerated. It's completely okay to not like something, but it's a bit of a problem when you can't shut up about you not liking it, or getting angry that others do.

>>4164035
This post was pro-treasure (or at least not anti-treasure) and was deleted:
>>/vr/thread/S4163403#p4163960

What now?

>>4164105
It's also not fun to be called anti-treasure out of nowhere in a discussion just because some fag doesn't like your opinion, so you better control those shitposters too.

>>4164114
I agree, ad-hominems in general are silly, if someone actually called you an "anti-treasurefag" out of context and for no reason, then that person was a complete idiot.

In the case of this thread and posts like "all treasure fans are nintendobabbies/normies/kids", then the anti-treasure namecalling has a meaning, a pretty obvious one.

>shitposting about not liking Treasure
>osts removed by mods
>shitposting about non retro shit, youtube garbage, "comfy" shit
>allowed
Cool.

>>4164095
Speaking of Square, why was Einhaender so GOOD?

>>4164095
>Then why come to /vr/ to vent about something that happens outside?

Because you're anonymous here and won't be downvoted/banned/whatever. It's also fun to mock the dumb shit that happens in other communities. Like I recall reading a Galaga thread over on reddit where some Treasure idiots felt the need to come in and educate everyone on how Ikaruga was actually the superior shmup.

Like I love Treasure and all, but their fans outside of /vr/ are pretty rabid.

>>4164116
e-celeb threads have been getting purged lately.

>>4164120
shup up squarefag
>>4164121
>reading a thread over on Reddit
You are the problem, anon.

>>4163683
Which only makes his threads more hilarious.

>>4164125
/vr/ is slow and I don't got a lot of options

>>4164128
Once again since the mods deleted my last post, I didn't make this thread, and I rarely post on /vr/ other than the last couple of days. If you're seeing some pattern, it's not me.

>>4164125
>You are the problem, anon.
This. He just lost it really hard.

>>4164130
I didn't see whatever post that is. Is that you admitting you think most Treasure fans are mainly Nintendo supporters?

I don't care who made the thread or how many people don't like Treasure. >>4163446

>>4164130
>I didn't make this thread, and I rarely post on /vr/ other than the last couple of days. If you're seeing some pattern, it's not me.
And I should believe you because?
Anyway it doesn't matter if you're OP or not. If you're the guy who said Treasure fans are nintenbabies or whatever, then why not just, like, stop posting? There's not a lot of arguments you can make in order to cover up for your stupidity. Take advantage of the anonymous system, don't reply. Your silly reputation remains anonymous. You're not really helping your anti-Treasure fellows with such shitposts though, you're helping reinforce the notion that the anti-treasure guys are mainly shitposters.

>>4164141
>tl;dr

This thread is fucking horrible. Cut the fanboy drama, please.

Of treasure games I enjoyed Gunstar Heroes alot (too short though) and Bangai-o remains one of my favorites. Astro Boy was awesome. Alien Soldier is okay. Dynamite Headdy probably the only Treasure game i distinctly did not enjoy, Mischief Makers kinda sucks too, and Ikaruga is good but severely overrated.

>>4164148
>five sentences is too long for me to read and comprehend

I think we found the problem.

>>4164150
It's ancient tired bait, what did you expect?

>>4164150
>Dynamite Headdy probably the only Treasure game i distinctly did not enjoy
Which version were you playing? Dynamite Headdy is one of those games that got butchered in localization.

>>4164150
Best threads here are Treasure and Castlevania ones.

>>4164161
Don't forget fun with Shmups fans!

>>4164150
>I enjoyed Gunstar Heroes alot (too short though)
lolwat, if anything it's a bit too long

>>4164154
>reddit spacing
You have to go back.

>>4164161
Castlevania threads used to have a lot of shitposting, not anymore.

>>4164156

I played it on a PAL Megadrive, I doubt localisation is the problem it just wasn't fun to me at all.

>>4164171
Tell that to this guy: >>4164121
I mean, if this thread proved anything, is that at least part of the anti-Treasure shitposting actually does come from Redditfags, it's terrible.

>>4164171
I've literally never posted there ever. Are you the one who knows all about it?>>4164121

I don't care what you think about spacing, if you can't read five sentences in a row you're a moron.

>>4164175
>"I love Treasure"
>anti-Treasure shitposting

>>4164171

This "reddit spacing" meme needs to die.

>>4164175
>at least part of the anti-Treasure shitposting actually does come from Redditfags

Also that they like nothing more than to accuse other people of being from that site as well.

>>4164185
loving treasure isn't good enough for treasurefags it seems

>>4164156
The international version is better. It's more challenging and has some cool graphical changes. There are a few sound errors, but some of the on screen text and sprites were improved. It also removes all the stupid text from the boss fights, which gives it more of an arcade feeling.

>>4164185
He says he comes here to vent against Treasurefags because of some Reddit posts.
The "I love treasure" part seemed more like falseflag than anything, but even if he actually loves Treasure, his anti-treasure shitposting is due to Reddit, he admitted it.
It also proves my theory that anti-treasure guys don't really hate the company, just certain "fans" (that happen to be redditors)

I subjectively dislike all their games except Gradius V.
Objectively, they are some of the easier games in their genres, but have good production values.

>>4164235

Why do you care?

>>4164245
In term of shmups there are easier games that RSG or Ikaruga that's for sure. Their console games are easy but hey, they are console games

>>4164235
I didn't say that at all. As I said in >>4164093 I was just theorizing why there's so much anti-Treasure posting on /vr/. Outside of the example I gave, I've never done it myself.

Treasuredrones can be categorised into two types of shitposters:

Shitposter A: the Nintendildo. Has only played Mischief Makers and Wario World on the Wii e-shop and thinks they're the best games ever. Never leaves his comfort zone. Very nostalgic memories of Nintendo, and little else.

Shitposter B: the Segaspie. Thinks the Sega Mega Drive is the greatest gift to mankind. Worships the fuck out of Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier, despite being mediocre run 'n gun shooters, to put it politely. Thinks Ikaruga is the greatest shump of all time because IGN told him so. Will get laughed out of belt scroller threads for liking/praising Guardian Heroes.

>>4164247
Not him, but it never ends and makes any other discussion impossible.

Also the rampant "I don't like what you said so you must be from another website" bullshit is a real plague on this community. I don't give a fuck about that place or the people who post here as well as there, but the constant use of it is horrible.

>>4164250
Also many shmups don't have difficulty settings, Ika does. Easy mode is super easy, but hard mode is a decent challenge.

>>4164261

Stop taking the bait. Everytime someone bites bait it drags out the shitposting.

>>4164247
I'm being nice to the other anon and replying.
>>4164256
My bad then. Your theory would imply that part of the reason for the anti-Treasure thing comes from outside, namely Reddit, but you can't really prove it. I thought you were also part of the anti-treasure bandwagon.
I just thinkg anti-Treasure guys like to bait, for the heck of it.
If they really hated Treasure because they made console games, and these people allegedly only play Arcade games for Hardcore gamers such as themselves, then why don't we see the same kind of reaction in the many, many other console or PC game threads?
I mean, even if we have Reddit or other boards other than /vr/ into account, Treasure still isn't as popular as other companies that have many, many more fans.

>>4164258
0/10

>>4164265
Yeah I honestly like that part of Ikaruga even when the game probably isn't for me, it was probably the influence for Cave to ditch loops later on and put "expert/ultra" modes instead.

>>4164271
That's an old pasta, not even worth the reply man.

>>4164271
>replying to pasta
Hello summer

>>4164283
>>4164284
I have failed you, brothers. But at least now I know. In thanks, have some almost porn and Genesis games.

>>4164258
Nailed it. Shame the biased mods won't allow the truth to be seen, though.

>>4165975
Wait. If OP was a "biased treasurefag" or whatever fantasies you have, he'd delete this thread since OP is actually bait.
Sonic Mania is not a retro game, it doesn't run on any /vr/ system.
It's still funny how you get triggered and keep insisting that there's some mod crusade against Treasure or whatever, when it was proven ITT that the anti-Treasure shitposting comes from some anti-Nintendo guy (as if many Treasure fans, like me, didn't got into them thanks to Sega systems), and Reddit users.

It's pretty funny actually.

>>4165989

Retro gaming attracts autists and schizophrenics, mods need to utilise 'time out' bans on this board because the shitposting is increasing

>>4166072
>4chan bans
>effective
I lol'd.

>>4166150

TO bans are like 2 to 24 hours. Yes, bans are effective.

t. ex-mod

>>4166167
Bans are effective on the casual shitposter, but the career shitposter doesn't give a fuck. I'm sure the Treasurefag/Anti-Treasurefag has been banned plenty of times by this point.

>>4164026
development (was there any?) halted as stated on his blog

sage for not /vr/

>>4163403
can someone explain the autism treasure meme?

I see this company brought up often but I tend to ignore the threads, what's this all about?

>>4163403
I full well know how mediocre KONAMI and TREASURE games are, but i keep telling people they are GREAT, because i love it when people spend their money on lame SHIT!

>>4167907
>>4168136
Why couldn't you faggots let this shitty bait thread die?

>>4163925
Yeah rs and Ikaruga are fun but I'm not nearly autistic enough to pick and choose my targets in a shmup to the extent that those games ask you to do if you want a decent score.

>>4168214
>those games are fun but I'm not autistic enough to play them well

>>4168214
You don't have to play Ikaruga for score, and with RSG you can use the 'save your weapon level' mode.

>>4167907
So far we've found there's one resident shitposter who claims Treasure sucks because the only people who like Treasure games are Nintendo fans (despite Treasure's first games being on Mega Drive), then we have the shmup autists who never ever post any high score or anything but they're the first ones to claim they're more hardcore than the rest for not liking ikaruga due to being a "normie" game.

Some people also theorize the shitposting comes from jelly Sony fans who never got any real great Treasure exclusive (although I personally liked Gradius V, but not retro).

>>4168370
Their Mega Drive games aren't as popular as their N64 games though. Mischief Makers is overrated as fuck amongst the Nintendo crowd, and then you have people thinking their GBA games are actually any good.

Nintendo fans... were a mistake.

>>4168382
I dunno, you might be right that Mischief makers is popular, I think it deserves its popularity, it's a great game, I'm actually kind of mad it never came out on Saturn back in the day though, since I didn't own a N64 in the 90s.
However, you're wrong, their most famous fames are the Sega ones: Gunstar Heroes, Guardian Heroes and Ikaruga.
>b-but Ikaruga was released on GC and that's when it became popular
Anti-Nintendo schizophrenics with victim complex... were a huge mistake.

>>4168389
>it's a great game
It's gimmicky garbage, there are much better platformers even for the same system.

>Gunstar Heroes,
Not as popular as Contra or Metal Slug 2bh.

>Guardian Heroes
lol? Nobody ever talks about this game.

>Anti-Nintendo schizophrenics with victim complex
More strawmanning. Cute.

>>4168408
>gimmicky
Ooooh, damn, such a nice argument.
What are games that aren't "gimmicky"? Pong?
>2bh
Your ironic cancer is still cancer.
>lol?
Ditto above.
>strawmanning
How is it strawman? You're clearly declaring that you hate Treasure because their nintendo games are more popular or nintendo fans that or whatever. Yes, you are an anti-nintendo schizophrenic.