/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-We're still waiting
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone
-Looking into replacing or removing outdated resources in the OP, need feedback
-Looking for more unique images to start each thread with

=== NEWS ===

[8-1] Map Jam 9 released (Quake)
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61494

[8-1] /newstuff Chronicles #532
https://www.doomworld.com/news/the-newstuff-chronicles-532-r5277/

[7-29] Press F as OBLIGE's 7.666 release will likely be the final version
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/

[7-28] Intermission E2M7, featuring Cage, Wartorn, and Pillowblaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13IDbeckDUM

[7-27] Lilith.pk3, the latest hot mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57364

[7-26] Project Xenome: Interloper, a map set for Unreal
http://www.unrealsp.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4195

[7-21] Anon map release: LEISURE.WAD
https://mega.nz/#!UyhnEYxA!BvZc-FDnp2Z6DqiyB3xD1_AJ04NWw9sPDFKE3NVUkXY

[7-21] 12.5 Quadrillion Shades Of Doom (monster randomizer)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57310

[7-21] Anon map release: "an arena where you can practise fighting two archviles"
https://my.mixtape.moe/xlahtx.wad

[7-21] High Noon Drifter released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57098

[7-20] New Insanity's Requiem release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37130&start=480#p1010044

[7-20] BloodGDX 0.771 released, fixes ROR
http://m210.duke4.net/

[7-19] Colorful Hell got updated to 0.90; adds gibs and White Archvile
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47980

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>>4162416
her's your meme

>>4162460
half assed as fuck

>>4162460
>>4162463
Samefag

>>4162465
That time of month?

>>4162465
yeah dude, got me good

When making custom textures for small map objects, do you make individual textures for each or lump 'em into one standard sized image, then adjust the texture location on each sector/brush to fit?

>>4162470
Wow you're so cool. So awesome using a proxy so you can derail a thread in the first 10 posts. Faggot.

>>4162460

Don't give them (You)s, REMEMBER TO IGNORE

>>4162460
>>4162475
>>4162463
It's amazing what five minutes in photoshop does.

>>4162549
Like an idiot I managed to forget the image.

>>4162552
>skeletons
>not revenants

>>4162573
Not as funny.

>>4162471
please respond, I don't want to make my filesizes any larger than they have to be

>>4162552
Eyy it's simple but it works

>>4162460
>>4162552
Fucking amateurs I swear, if you're gonna meme it up, you gotta COMMIT to that shit

>>4162587
damn

>>4162569
>>4162590

>>4162587
beauty

>>4162602
>>4162598
I am extra dumb and should have mentioned this.

>>4162587
I had other ideas

>>4162441
Just an FYI regarding Jam 9; playing with Quakespasm Spiked R7 won't work and will most likely crash because it doesn't recognize Quoth for some odd reason. Also don't follow the readme for once and don't add -heapsize 65536 to your command line, there's no need for it and it may even crash several maps.

How finicky is it creating common archways you see in Quake in Doom with sloped ceilings?

>>4162732
Not hard, just have a gap between layers for the most basic. Then you throw in things and vertices...

I got another one.

Where do you get the names for your maps from?

>>4162767
Often from music or film titles.

>>4162767
Asspulls or the theme. Maybe you want to describe what your map is.

Having some issues with zdl3. It tells me I need to select a source port, I have gzdoom added to the source port list, and it's selected from the drop down menu. What do?

>>4162810
did you make sure to actually select the .exe file when you added gzdoom to the list? maybe you just put the gzdoom name in on accident

Okay is this out of the ordinary?: I run doom 2016 on ultra on my PC, and it never drops frames.

But for some reason hell on earth starter pack gets frame drops. Can someone please help me make sense of this? Is this something that should be happening?

>>4162828
Nah I re-added it a couple times, it ended up working after, oddly enough. Not sure where I went wrong.

>>4162837
Doom 2016 is optimized to hell and back.

Sourceport engines and customs maps don't tend to be.

Actually, I have no idea how to optimize a Doom engine map.

>>4162842
Okay cool thank you. I'm doubting the lot of you have. But can anyone confirm that hell on earth starter pack gets frame drops in the city maps?

>>4162837
pretty sure it's just the engine, limitations and all that

>>4162839
glad you got it to work

>>4162837
Doom 4 is incredibly well optimized, one of the best optimized videogames in recent years, while GZDoom is pretty poorly optimized (partially because of Decorate and linedefs; the more linedefs there are for an actor to check between him and you, the more taxing it'll be).

>IT'S A ME, RANGER!
>BOING
>UGH

>>4162587
This is pure shit.

>>4162441
How do I run Spear of Destiny 2 Episode 2 & 3 in ECWolf? Do I only need the .exe files or do I need everything else that comes in the .zip?

I've already got the original Spear of Destiny running just fine. Are the other files that come in the .zip identical in all episodes, or do I need all related files for each game separately?

>>4162852
why does he have an ak

>>4162852
>called Spear of Destiny
>never get to use the Spear of Destiny

>>4162848
pretty fucking slick, m8, I would have spent ten minutes repeatedly quickloading trying to bounce a grenade off the bookcases and have it land on the platform to propel myself.

>>4162864
Thanks. I think its deliberately positioned like this to allow jumping off its head. There's a good bit of developer foresight here: the bridge retracts when picking up the key, and you can't quickly jump back to it because a scrag spawns right behind you.

>>4162879
>you can't quickly jump back to it because a scrag spawns right behind you.
Having not played the map yet, is there enough space you can potentially jump to the side of the scrag behind you and airstrafe back onto solid ground?

>>4162852

While I get that theres no particular order to Arcane Dimensions, is there any recommended order?

>>4162883
Haven't tried that. The bridge might retract too quickly.

>>4162884
>Carmack seeing a videogame with a story

>>4162887
Not really. All the maps are standalone and half of them weren't specifically made for AD anyway.

>>4162856
I was gonna say that FormGen wasn't known for particularly giving much of a fuck, but then I remembered this was the original cover for Spear Of Destiny (reiterating my point, they reused that cover for both their releases of SOD), so I guess the cover artist just didn't pay it much thought.

Consider also that the original cover for the PC version features a stomped Nazi dropping what appears to be some kind of AR15 variant, and that the cover for the SNES port shows a person (ostensibly B.J), posing with a Beretta 92, an Uzi, an M16, as well as a getup that looks like it's from Vietnam, I'd say that accuracy on that department for old Wolf3D covers wasn't considered much.

They're otherwise pretty good though. Like the SNES one, they obviously worked with a model, the artist very accurately and faithfully depicted the replica model M16

>>4162893
>half of them weren't specifically made for AD anyway.

Which are these?

>>4162909
A number of them use the Quoth mod, which AD is pretty much an expansion of, but off the top of my head:
>Crucial Error (Mainframe Mayhem, https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/mfxsp17.html))
>Place of Many Deaths (id's own dm1, although that's only the centermost area)
>Obsessive Brick Disorder (Backsteingotik, https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/backstein1e.html))
>Arcane Monstrosity (Metal Monstrosity, https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/metmon1d.html))
>The Horde of Zendar (The Horde of Zendar [non-AD], https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/zendar1d.html))

There's more I think, but those are the only ones I can remember/find offhand and my internet connection has decided to turn into something close to dial-up and Quaddicted isn't playing nice with it at all.

>>4162850
nah, probably the best one

Finally finished all of Wolfenstein 3D, what a ride. Everything was okay until after MechaHitler, after that things started going downhill. And those fucking Lost Mission packs, holy fuck are they bad. BLUE EVERYWHERE. And repeating the fucking ending level of Spear TWO FUCKING TIMES was really lazy and weak. I did like the new enemy lines though at least. Oddly enough, playing through those garbage levels at the end really hyped me up for making my own level, because even I could do better than Formgen fucking did.

Thinking about some kind of Wolf3D remake in the Tech1 engine, somebody suggested redoing Castle Wolfenstein that way and I have been considering it, sorta mixing CW and Doom into some kind of Wolf3D nightmare universe with more non-linear levels and more stealth. Probably a wee bit ambitious, but I'll probably give it a real shot after I get more experience. Going to replay Doom 1 and 2, and then Castle Wolfenstein to really get a feel for how I want to approach the whole thing.

>>4162951
the CW dynamic of searching corpses would be cool. Don't just do item drops but have the player actually have to search - kind of like how S.T.A.L.K.E.R. does it.

Good luck man, sounds like fun. If you can make some breakable walls to blow up with grenades it would be pretty damn cool too.

You can play CW online, or if you download it and play with dosbox, lower the cycles to 210, otherwise it will run FAR too fast.

>>4162884
BJ moments before being sliced by hundreds of glass shards

>>4163048
>>4162884
>oh god why did I do this
>there was so many better ways

>>4163082
Nobody should get a blowjob in the middle of the accurate to life reproduction Die Hard set.

>>4162154
Got a chuckle out of me, you releasing it? Could use a better frame for a death sprite, though.

Does anybody pursue Doom modding as a "full-time" hobby? I.e. your only hobby or the hobby you are spending most time on?

Because I recently realized for me it's more of a periodic thing. I get some cool idea and do it, then completely drop modding and Doom altogether for some time.

Like, in 2016 I made a weapon that consisted of a bowl of piranhas you could pour out.
Then, a year nothing.
Then, from April or so this year I made a remake of the first few segments of Turok 2's Port of Adia, an Arnold Schwarzenegger skin/soundboard and the Judge's Lawgiver gun.
Now I am doing something else and don't feel like doing anything for/with Doom.

>>4163175
I do it mostly to fuck around in my spare time. Whenever I try to do a serious project I keep feeling it'd be easier to do it in a different engine instead.

>>4162848
oooh what map is this?
> thats pretty neat jumping on the scrag to break your fall

>>4162852
>>4162856
>>4162908
/k/ would have a field day with this

There are some Doom and Quake maps that has few or no low difficulty monsters (like anything below a baron of hell in Doom or anything below a vore or shambler in Quake), and some encounters with bosses etc? what i mean is like Doom wads or Quake maps like Shadow of the Colossus like epic encounters, or something like that, not as bigger, but as separate monsters encounters that are focused on 1v1 fights

>>4163239
First map of Contract Revoked, Libris Vertiginis.

>>4163175
It's on and off for me as well.

>>4163175
It's pretty much full time for me, until I finish my major project, then I'll probably "retire" and start trying to make standalone video games.

>>4163175
Tbh I have been in the doom community for many years now... and as a result I've been a re-regging fag every couple of years so now I have like 5 doomworld accounts with a few posts about a project lmao

>>4162918
> mfw I never played Any of the quake 1 multiplayer maps
> because I never played quake 1 multiplayer

Is it worth it getting both Quakes on steam?

>>4163369
no, get them on GOG instead

>>4163175
It's something I occasionally dick about with depending on the amount of time I have and whatever game I feel like fucking with.

>>4163369
What the hell for, to waste money? Almost no members from the id team that worked on it would receive any money from it, you'd be feeding zenimax and you can literally check the pastebin in the OP with better sourceports and music as well as have each game running in 5 min.

>>4163369
no. Get quakespasm for quake1.
quake 2 you can probably just download somewhere

I didn't get a response last thread, so I'll ask again: is there a list or something anywhere of Doom mods that gives numbers for how many monsters are in each map? I'm still looking for that mod that apparently had more than 400 monsters in the first level before the spooky scary elevator happened.

>>4162852
Pirate the gog version and I think you just dump ECWolf in there and are good to go.

>>4163175
not modding, but at least something doom-related, most of the time.

>>4163448
>is there a list or something anywhere of Doom mods that gives numbers for how many monsters are in each map
i've never heard of such a thing

what's this elevator thing you're talking about?

Is there a .wad I can play without playing it?

>>4163504
Basically, the second map of the mod started on a cargo elevator. You rode it down in silence for a bit, it'd shake once, then more riding, then it'd shake a bit harder, the lights would flicker, a bit more riding, then it'd shake even harder, the lights would alternate turning red and going out entirely, some maniacal laughter would echo about (I'm thinking it was probably a Dr Betruger voice clip), then after that it'd stop and a door would open for a bunch of zombiemen to attack you and let you progress.

RECOMMEND ME SOME GOOD WADS FUCK

>>4163507
imp encounter

>>4163553
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/x-rated/i_am_old_enough_to_look_at_this/fnafporn

>>4163553
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/aolgirls

>>4163553
back to basics
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/a-c/b2b

https://bitbucket.org/Torr_Samaho/zandronum-zscript/src

AAAA?
AAAAAAAA!!!!!

Someone tell me this is real.

>>4163595
Nevermind I need to lurk more.

>>4163595
>>4163596
Torr already stated like 6 times that Zandronum 4.0 is in sync with GZDoom codebase, though the entire code is unrevisioned for Zandro's netcode so the entire thng may break and cause a fuckton of weird behaviors.

>>4163548
Nightomb by eternal has the laugh, and it ends on a lift, but it's a single map.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/nightomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3EwJzwV8Hw

if it's not this, i've no idea, with all the stop-start and scripted events you describe, it's likely some script-heavy zdoom thing i haven't played.

>>4163507
how not to be seen

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/hntbs

>>4163175
If you're not having fun, then you're not having fun.
It's better to spend time doing stuff you legitimately enjoy instead of forcing yourself to keep on going.

>>4163286
>fetish joke etc etc...
There, I did your job, 4chan. Shut up.

>>4163673
it was over three and a half hours ago

you did a job nobody really cared about doing

congratulations

>>4163676
Statisticly SOMEONE cares.
Just like you and I care enough to reply.

>>4163673
>>4163676
i don't get it

i liked this. the texture theme is wonderfully crazy and colourful. it mixes all form of hellish textures in every which way possible. i enjoyed demon faces staring out from behind flesh walls, or having their eyes replaced with torches. i don't think i could stand a whole megawad like this but the occasional crazy texturing map is refreshing. (see also dmp2012 map16).

>>4163691
however i missed the red key for a while because it kind of blended in to all the hellish detail. so in that sense the theme was taken a little too far. perhaps i may suggest more lighting variation. with most of the map at 192+ light, important things are lost in the noise, and don't stand out so much.

on a similar note, i felt there were a few too many obstacle things in the outer areas. these were likely a part of the map theme, but remember, gameplay first. perhaps one or two of the trees could be removed. the two brown stubs in sector 31 for example. the south area is less of an issue here because it's wider and more open. i did note two of the things (98 and 100) are solid and block the player movement underneath when they should not.

>>4163693
under all the detail, the layout is basically symmetric, so you do everything twice. as a short map this isn't so bad, but an excess of symmetry is something to avoid.

there were two secrets but neither was marked as a secret. i stumbled into one by accident then guessed there was one on the other side by symmetry.

with 41 mostly small-to-medium demons there was quite a lot of ammo. it's easier than junk.wad due to lack of hitscanners.

i didn't find any major bugs but i think i saw some incorrectly pegged doortracks at one point somewhere.

>>4163697
boom demo:
https://a.uguu.se/D8fsawwfcX3h_botanichel.wad-fda-754.lmp

Are the weapon sounds the same for psx doom and regular doom?

Also, is there anyway that i can find the psx doom or doom 64 ambient track and put them into other wads I play?

So ICD treats all grenade ammo as one ammo pool, the pickup graphic is a (somewhat oversized) box with five hand grenades on it. That is what it looks like regardless of what you use it for. Also you can't really save any of it, you pick it up or you don't.

I wanted to replace it with a container that looks like it could contain both kinds of launched grenades as well as frag grenades (on the left side, thus the left side says FRAG, the 37mm grenades aren't fragmention grenades). I also want to make them so you can take grenades partially from them, because I'm sick of having to OCD count grenade ammo in my head and needlessly wasting good explosives because I picked it up at near full stock.

How does it look? Good? Bad? Ok? They're supposed to be two sealed and shock-protected containers, to drive it home, I put a bunch of warning labels on it. It's the same ammo pool for it ultimately, but just rationalize it that you just so happen to find a container that contains exactly the kind and amount of munitions you finally end up using. Which sounds like handwaving bullshit if you think about it, and that's because it totally is.

Any intesting mods come out lately?

>>4163739
in terms of gameplay mods, high noon drifter is out and really fun
in terms of maps, lilith.pk3 is a very interesting little mapset
also ribbiks released his old pile of crap which, after playing through them, makes me very depressed about my current mapping ability
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95309-old-crap/

>>4163691
>>4163693
>>4163697
>>4163702
All noted. Cheers lad for your time. I tried to make the best use of textures and tried to repeat them as little as possible. Let's hope the next will hopefully be as worthwhile.

I noticed the secrets and pegged walls, but ultimately they weren't deemed "gamebreaking" and my self-allotted time period had ultimately expired.

Lo, my idioticy may have me barred from Doomworld/Zdoom for life (but if they're willing to have me back if i prove my end of the bargain, so be it) but hopefully my maps will entertain people enough.

>>4163751
ribbiks could make a sector toilet, and people would still slobber over it

>>4163754
Hopefully though it gives a good example of Redwall being used as a flesh texture. I always though it looked like it would make a good flesh texture on-top of it's other potential applications.

Anybody in the thread ever considered using some Spore building creations as part of map detail inspiration? Useful art gallery that is.

>>4163739
Space Hunter, which was done by Kegan.
Kinsie gave an update to MetaDoom that is probably the most finished version.

>>4163737
looks pretty sharp anon, nice work

you working on a ICD expansion or a conversion or something, or is this just a personnel project?

>>4163754
have you ever thought about not using the internet as a pseudo-twitter for your self-flagellation

>>4163850
Not that it's going to make a difference anymore.

>>4162828
>A:/

>>4163870
What the fuck are you talking abo-

>>4163846
Thanks.

Kind of like an overhaul.
I've always loved ICD, but from a modern perspective, it's not quite perfect. There's a lot of clunkiness and redundancy in the arsenal (some weapons do pretty much the same thing others do, some weapons just aren't good), and there's a mix of centered and angled weapons, which I think that we as a community can agree is kind of aesthetically inconsistent.

But on the other hand, there are LOTS of things about it which are really good, like how you and zombies are glasscannons against each other (and how the cyberdemon is now actually incredibly formidable as an enemy), how you can smartly save ammo and the large healthkits by using them partially, how a lot of the guns are cool and really good (the hand grenades are fantastic and can solve so many problems). I am absolutely in love with the gas grenades.

At first I thought I'd just change a few small things, but then I thought I'd change a few more, and ultimately I thought I'd overhaul it and make a version of it that's more like what I'd do a similar setup. I'm in it for the long haul, I'll be working on this a while, but I haven't had a drive to mod this strong in years and I'm really in gear, I have lots of ideas and I've learned and figured out so many things, I've never been this efficient or consistent.
Pic related is a bit outdated (some of these guys are changed by now), but it's some stuff I've worked on.

>>4163870
I'm a pleb about computers and curiosity is killing me, what does it mean?

>pick up some grenades on the ground
>can't use them until I pick up the other grenades that are a bit closer together on the ground
please explain

>>4163906
A:/ used to be a drive letter assigned to floppy drives.

>>4163906
A:\ is usually the drive designation for a floppy disk drive. There's a chance he's just done some weird shit and assigned a non-floppy drive to A:\

>>4163908
one's ammo, one's the weapon pickup

it's not rocket science

>>4163915
yeah this was my first build from a little while back and i just never bothered to fix anything from then

>>4163919
Making both act as a weapon pickup as well as an ammo pickup isn't really hard though, and it'd make things more consistent.

It'd be kind of retarded to pick up a grenade but you can't use it until you've picked up the stack of grenades.

>>4163908
You can't use the rocket launcher until you get the rocket launcher weapon, simple as that.

>>4163926
turn on the option that lets you do that

mod options: grenades acquired > on ammo pickup

>>4163919
>>4163934
but the weapon is just a higher quantity of the ammo pickup
you can pick up five grenades, but you can only throw them if you picked them all up at once
you can't explain that

>>4163926
>>4163908
>>4163940
this strikes me as something that's a very clear divide between gameplay and "what makes sense"
purely from the sake of gameplay pacing and how map progression staggers out weapon pickups, getting the RL weapon right away would be dumb
purely from the sake of "what makes sense", no getting the RL weapon right away is dumb

>>4163873
>>4163870
this is the retro games board. the possibility that a poster is using a computer with a floppy drive shouldn't cause this much of an overreaction.

>>4163943
DESU I think you will always sacrifice map balance itself to some degree with any kind of gameplay mod that overhauls everything like this.

It's just completely weird to be able to pick up a hand grenade, possible even a full max amount, but you can't use it because you didn't pick up the right hand grenade pickup.

>>4163946
I play retro games regularly and I haven't seen a floppy in ages.

>>4163946
When he has multiple versions of the same port, certainly taking taking more than 1.44 MB it's a bit confusing.

>>4163908

Yeah, buncha folks were asking about this.
The only answer is that the weapon pickup comes with a manual that explains how to use them and Corzo doesn't know that you have to pull out the pin until then.

>>4163946
it's a moot point, you can't even fit zdoom on a floppy disk

>>4163949
i dunno, in a mod where you have infinite revolver ammo, your boomerang comes back to you, and you can kill a cyberdemon with hat, i think it's easy to brush off

but that's my i m o, i don't really think about these sort of things so maybe i'm the weird one

>>4163956
I'll accept it.

>>4163914
>>4163915
Thanks for answering my question anons.

>>4163956
So if you transition from Episode 1 to Episode 2, or from 2 to 3, or to Doom 2, Cane Corzo forgets how to use those grenades he's been using all this time?

>>4163959
>infinite revolver ammo
rule of cool
>boomerang comes back to you
rule of cool
>kill a cyberdemon with a hat
rule of cool
>some grenades being unusable until you've picked up a special set of grenades
nothing cool about this

Does anyone know where I can get a good quality version of the quad damage firing sound effect?

I've found a few downloads but they all have tons of hissing and they aren't clean at all. Is that just what the original sounds file sounds like or all of these just shitty rips?

Doom 2017's might be the cleanest, but fuck if I know how to rip that.

>>4163968
third one sounds more like rule of funny but point taken.

>>4163959
>my i m o
let me guess, you were pretending to be retarded

>>4163965

I forget where my keys have been placed every morning. I'd probably forget how to use grenades.

>>4163974
were you?

>>4163978
Does he have a brain injury? Forgetting learned behavior that's been practiced for long periods of time is incredibly alarming.

He should see a cowboy doctor.

>>4163974
"IMO" to abbreviate "in my opinion" has been around forever, it goes back to Usenet at least.

>>4163986
Did you miss the part where he said "my IMO", meaning he literally said "my in my opinion"

>>4163984

Doc Holliday has unfortunately been gone for a long time.
To be honest, though, >>4163943 is correct, it's purely for the sake of gameplay and following traditional weapon progression. But someone asked me about it a lot, so that's why I added the "on ammo pickup" thing.

it's a moot issue anyway because >>4163935

>>4163989
it was my incredibly masterful opinion

>>4163994
You win this round.

This is blatant enough to be obvious, right?

>>4164038
Looks like Morrowind.

>>4164038
yes my first thought was "that looks like a super soaker", then i got it.

>>4164049
It is, decided to make e1m1 as a dungeon in the morrowind CS. Mostly a MW lore appropriate version that just takes the map and some inspiration (like the secrets, which may be a pain to script), but I might go and make a Doom matching one with no clutter and appropriate enemies.

Basically, wanted to check here and make sure it looked enough like e1m1 to be instantly recognizable.

>>4162441
>still using Google/Jewgle drive and not Dropbox nor iCloud for the IWADS and miscellaneous tools.

>>4164134
>this giant megacorp is worse than that giant megacorp
they're all shitty giant megacorps.

>>4164134
>>>/g/
>>>/pol/

>>4164134
>not setting up your own home server to host files
Jesus...

>>4163968
rule of gameplay

>>4163965
dude literally fucking died from E1 to E2 cut him some slack

>>4164159
RULE OF NAAAATURRRRRREEEEEEEEE

>>4164172
The chaingunner's face looks yellow and his eyes look kinda squinted.
Why is that?

>>4163946
I can bet you at least half the people in the Doom threads were introduced to Doom within the past 5-10 years, through source ports and mods.

>>4164182
i would be surprised if so, but wouldn't be complaining. it's always nice to expand an audience and have more people in a community, bringing in new people is wonderful.

>>4163771
I strongly doubt his old crap wad is going to win a cacoward. I'm honestly surprised he even bothered to release those maps, considering the overall quality of them is no better than typical 94-95 maps.

>>4164179
the filtering on the video from which that thumbnail was generated is fucked

>finally clear enough space on desk to hook up second monitor
>mapping will be so much faster now!
>still don't map anything

>>4164139
>>4164143
iCloud doesn't have a psychotic need to track every single thing you upload and edit, nor do they have a bonkers hypocritical "no hate" policy like Google has.

>>4164158
Maybe someday, this will happen when an anon gets enough spare time and money for such a thing.

>>4164204
Do it like me, have your editor on your first monitor and porn on your second and your productivity will skyrocket.

>>4164213
no but icloud does have a psychotic need to force you to buy overpriced garbage computers that only let you do what zombie steve jobs allows you to do

i am not picking sides, they're all shit, but in different ways

>>4164182
I'm about one year older than Doom and have played it since I was six or seven.

I forgot that floppys existed, and in a way, I was happier for it, because it was a pretty awful format.

When is MiniDoom 2 supposed to come out?

>>4164134
>>4164143
HUH, I don't know who you think you are buddy but racism is NOT allowed on this good christian website

>>4164228
>doom and porn

Hold on, you telling me there's a difference?

>>4164228
I have only one screen, but I have porn tabs open pretty often, does that work?

>>4162460
THATS NOT A SKELETON

>>4164319
Yeah

>>4164272
>HUH

>still no new final doomer

>>4164331
>still no new DRLA

Somehow this isn't looking like AIDS (yet).
Didn't think I had that in me.

>>4164364
I know your pain.

Decided to pick up the original Quake and the Quakespasm source port since I haven't played classic Quake since I was a kid who was too scared to actually play.
How exactly do I set it up, though? Do I dump the source port's files in the main Quake folder, or somewhere else, or what?

>>4164450
take the id1/ folder (and hipnotic/ and rogue/ if you have them, they're the mission packs), copy it to quakespasm's folder

play game

>>4164459
Or you can do it the other way around and just copy Quakespasm's files to the root quake folder.

TRESPASSER

>>4164461
>>4164459
Alright, thanks. Time to show this 21-year-old game I never played more than the first ten feet of any episode's opening who is the boss now.

>>4164450
Did you buy Quake? Go find a download for the soundtrack. None of the official ways of buying it include the OST.

I wish people read the OP before buying things.

>>4164478
good luck

>>4164473
These guys are lame as fuck compared to similar monsters from doom/qauke1. Kind of like the rest of Q2's enemies, I guess.

>>4164473
inta-ROOODAH

>>4164473
ROOTDOT

>>4164483
Do shamblers bounce?

>>4164504
What?

>>4164473
>oh shit it's Researchindicates' fanboys

>>4164482
I did read the OP, actually. Got the game from that nice mega.nz link.

Speaking of which, though, I decided to get Quake II from the same place. Does that Yamagi Quake II port install the same way or do I absolutely need to grab that q2-3.20-x86-full-ctf.exe its readme mentions first?

>>4164483
I still remember watching a relative play the game back in the day and get into an axe fight with one of those. Survived, but only had like ten health left.

>>4164515
I asked you if shamblers could bounce.

Maybe not 100% finished, but it looks like a single-action revolver I think (a modern one).

What do you think would be a fitting Magnum cartridge for a big Magnum like this?
>.357 Maximum
>.45 Winchester Magnum
>.440 CorBon
>.50 Action Express

Single-actions like these eject manually with a rod, so you can have rimless cases in one and that's fine.
.44 Magnum could always work, but it's not particularly exotic.

>>4164578
A Magnum Research BFR for comparison.

I'm thinking this is the kind of revolver you could shoot straight through a pinkie (or two) by using a suitable hardcast lead bullet.

>>4164578
>>4164585
It's supposed to go through two pinkies?
.45-70 or .30-30

>>4164590
Haven't quite decided on that yet.

I think rifle cartridges would be a bit misplaced, it can work but you'd need special loads or you're wasting lots of case capacity/powder on big loud fireballs (not that it won't be loud and bright, mind you).

>>4163725
>Are the weapon sounds the same for psx doom and regular doom?

They're mostly different. I think fist is still the same, chainsaw's the same except the sounds play shorter, everything else is different and imo better than the PC Doom sounds although the ssg sound is debatable.

Try this little pk3 and hear for yourself:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uiemt1n7r6xqvok/psxwpsnd.pk3

>>4164473
*blocks ur path in while dying*
heh...nothin personnel...

Whats with all these yeti versions of shamblers?

>>4164634
Classic Caco sounds are better.
Classic Cyber sounds are better.
Classic Baron sounds are better.
Classic Arachno sounds are better.

The PSX zombies sound really great though.

>>4164646
shamblers are fuzzy

>>4164646
>>4164658
Because they look like Yetis.

Also they're fuzzy and remind people of snow yetis, hence, why they're commonly depicted as walking carpets. Which makes sense given their means of attack.

>>4164658
>>4164663
It's debatable though.
Didn't Adrian say "not fur" and Romero say "yeah it's fur" ?

>>4164668
Yes, that's exactly what it was. However, development and design documentation changes over time. It certainly looks like fur to me, and the fur would help explain the science of how it's electrical attack would work.

>>4164668
pretty much

shambler fur is the quake community's revenant pants

>>4162842
>to hell and back
heh

>>4164685
Isn't it baron/knight with pants?

>>4164489
Oh, it's you again.

>>4164519
What.

>>4162441
I really want to play Blood but I fucking hate DOSbox. Is BloodGDX worth trying out with the current beta stage or should I wait until the author has released a complete v1.0? Has anybody here tested it out?

>>4164668
Adrian's stance has credit due to being the art guy, but Romero's is equally viable due to the low resolution making it go both ways and his explanation about how Quake is dark and dingy enough where monsters with no eyes and shaggy coats are perfectly fitting. Plus, how often do games have fuzzy yeti monsters instead of bare-skinned muscular demons? It's a nice change.

also, fiends have eyes

Give me an in-universe explanation of why this thing has a gatling gun design despite having a rate of fire more fitting for a regular machine gun.

>>4164673
Quake had a pretty sloppy and strange development though. Delayed in one sense yet also rushed into a compromise.

I think it's what helped it be so unique.

>>4164734
Frankly, one of the things that scared me most about the Shambler was how it looked like such a grotesque and satanic deformation of the traditional Yeti imagery.

>>4164735
Chaingun designer is a loon.

>>4164735
it's low on battery, so it spins slower

>>4164578
Is this for that redux of Immoral Conduct?

>>4164585
>Big Fucking Revolver
This thing was made for Doom.

>>4164730
Worth trying out, yeah. It's a nice source port.
I've seen a lot of critics, but I've also seen them never actually elaborate on what's wrong with it so.

>>4164735
There is none. The design choice by the developers was basically "gatling guns are cool".
Which I can't argue with.
I've always felt one of the Alpha/Beta MGs fit better though, with it sharing ammo with the pistol and having a moderate rate of fire.

I made this a while ago, for people who wanted to address just that:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5003f3o2p0oym9t/machinegun3.wad?dl=0

The damage and rate of fire is the same, the sound is the same, it just has an a graphic and animation I think looks alright. It's 100% an aesthetic change. Well except I guess you can tap single shots now, but still.
Looking at that graphic, it always felt like a very typical post WW2 subgun, stamped steel/steel tubing, straight blowback and firing from an open bolt. Very rudimentary and cheap, but very functional. Looks industrial, which fits Doom's aesthetic sort of.

>>4164735
It's a sub-par copy of a Nazi German design from WWII that's nevertheless somehow continued service some two hundred years afterwards.

It's basically the Doom universe's equivalent to the real M60.

>>4164756
I think it probably was a tribute to the Wolfenstein chaingun.

>>4164758
Okay, I'm loving this.

>>4164747
imagine if the moment you picked up a cell, the chaingun's fire rate doubled

it'd be dumb but still

>>4164749
Yes.

The revolver you can find in the normal ICD, is just entirely unremarkable in every way, it's weak and it doesn't really do any particularly good damage. By the time you might have stumbled into one (it spawns randomly from a Marine's body), you'll have better uses for pistol ammo and all it does is bloat your arsenal.

I really like modern 20th/21st Century cowboy revolvers, especially Magnums and Super Magnums (though also the smaller ones), so I thought that was a good excuse to squeeze one in and make something more interesting and satisfying.

>>4164750
Yeah. Magnum Research hasn't actually said or made any statement for what BFR stands for, some say "Biggest, Finest Revolvers", but I guess you can just fill it in as you see fit.
On order, they'll make them in just about any caliber you want.

>>4164761
>chaingun can use cells additionally to bullets for increased rate of fire

>>4164765
Will you be able to fan the hammer?

>>4164758
Well that's an interesting way of interpreting it I guess.

Many decades later they make the thing not suck/beat itself to death.

>>4164735
The rate of fire is intentionally at a low setting for controlability.

Made a variant with a blued finish, how does it look?

>>4164770
Uh, gee, I maybe could add that, though modernized Single Action revolvers tend to not let you do that (partially because you can make the lockwork stronger and more robust that way). Also it would really be faster and more efficient to just cock the hammer with your left thumb while trying to maintain a sight picture.

I never really found a good time to do the fanning in Accessories To Murder, like it always did what it needed to with regular fire. Though it makes no sense on what's a double-action revolver, it was kind of neat that it was even there, just as a detail.

>>4164771
>Many decades later they make the thing not suck/beat itself to death.

>>4164778
With six gun barrels, it would be so heavy that the recoil would probably be pretty mild with double the rate of fire.

>>4164786
It's light enough that it was given a stock so it could be shoulder fired.

>>4164778
What about just a comfort thing? It's held more like a rifle but is clearly akin to a traditional minigun at a slower RPM. It's also extremely accurate, so maybe it' a hybrid minigun-machinegun, hence "Chaingun"?

>>4164782
>blued finish
Instant approval.

>>4164782
Raaaaad.

>>4164756
>machinegun3.wad
With this and Zman.wad (which gives the zombieman a pistol instead of an assault rifle), my autism will finally be sated.

>>4164815
>What about just a comfort thing?
It's the same thing.
Shooting a gun you can't control isn't comfortable.

>tfw when the chaingun only feels good and powerful when it's being used against you

>>4164843
Well Clyde there is a pretty built guy, wearing a cool red armor, and lugging the gun under his arm, with the belt hanging off the side, him holding it like he's Rambo, on top of the flash lighting him all up, including his menacing face. Also it sounds like a shotgun.

Little details can do a lot.

>>4164843
>>4164850

He also appears to be missing every single shot.
Poor guy.

>>4164815
That tends to be my headcanon. It's a funky space age assault rifle/machine gun.

Proper miniguns have been replaced by battery-powered energy weapons in the heavy fire support role.

>>4164331
>image

Someone should make a Puyo Puyo Doom mod.

What have we got here

>>4164993
looks like a wad

>>4164993
Oh shit

>>4164993
Commander Keen 6: Keen Gets Buttfucked

>>4164993

Butt Butt Land: Commander Keen and the City of Butts

>>4164993
That's one keen space marine.

>>4164993
Pounded in the Butt by the Sentient Manifestation of the Commander Keen Franchise

Is there a way to force a monster into a pain state with an attack? Like no matter what, when this attack hits, it will force him into the pain state no matter what RNG or his stats say.

>>4165016
+forcepain on a projectile

>>4164993

keep up the amazing job. don't hesitate to drop a demo!

I think a co-op mod that significantly reduced the movement speed of both players would be great. Doom is hard to co-op due to how fast you can more and there not being much incentive to stick together or stop moving. I've always wondered why I love co-op FPS game so much, but never enjoyed Doom's co-op very much. There's just nothing about the game that encourages you to play "cooperatively". It's just 2 or more dudes playing Doom at the same time.

>>4165016
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Custom_damage_types

>>4164993
One more for now. fuckin yorps

>>4165027
i like this.

>>4165027
KEEN NO

YOU'RE TOO YOUNG TO BECOME A DADDY

>>4165027
>fuckin yorps
please do not fuck the yorps

>>4165040
are you sure?

>>4165054

DO

NOT

>>4165054
more cute than fuckable, t b h

>>4164331
>>4164364
Sorry, been busy not doing things because burnout.
Then stopped being burnt out and made killer gargs.

Shivers is back at uni again so Final Doomer stuff has stopped for now, I'll try and steal him sometime soon for you guys.

>>4165076
cool

thanks for keeping us updated

>>4165076
>>4165081
yeah, we started a little Keen GZDoom fangame/standalone thing that a good few people seem interested in mapping/working on, so things will hopefully be gettin pretty interesting with it.

>>4165054
>>4165087
Looks like Mike art

https://shoehead.itch.io/dum

>>4165096
ye - doin a little bit of fucking around in EGA for this keen project inbetween my hdoom and mgq3d stuff

>>4165076
i hate sounding like an impatient asshole but what's stopping you guys from releasing the 2 weapon sets that are (presumably) done? is it because you promised the 3 weapon sets per update?

>>4165104
Does this Keen project have a thread?

>>4165120
not at the moment - we pretty much just pulled it out of our ass over the last day or so.

if you've played doom delta you'd be familiar with the fact that the minimap shat on performance in opengl. now it doesn't thanks to the magic of zscript, with the addition of being more accurate when drawing walls (you won't get randomly missing/appearing lines, etc.)

>>4165127
Ah, well looking forward to seeing more of it at any rate!

>>4165128
the performance drop was basically the only thing really keeping me from playing doom delta more often so this is perfect

>>4165128
>ZScript minimap

This is neat. Will there ever be a standalone addon version?

>>4165128

Magnificent.

>>4165136
Seconding this, love that hud

>>4163956
I see your confused Corzo and raise you a baffled Blaz.

>>4164390
>>4164578
>>4164782

That's a good lookin revolver

Why is there a corpse of a bunny in Hell in the first place?

>>4165160
Did you play the game? Doomguy just got back to Earth.

>>4165110
dun wanna

>>4165160
>in Hell
Anon, I...

I can't be the only one here. But does anyone else really find gameplay mods like Metadoom, complex doom, and all of those mods to be really short lived in their enjoyment?

I honestly find myself only really playing through full mapsets with vanilla gameplay.

>>4165201
same
i only really enjoy gameplay mods if they have a mapset that is balanced for them

>>4165202
yup, going down is my favorite wad in existence, I tried loading it up with metadoom and it was honestly really really boring.

Do you guys know any wads solely for monster replacement? I want something challenging to go with Guncaster.

>>4165201

personally metadoom is one of my favorites, I find myself coming back to it very often, but that's just me. to prevent burnout I usually don't play the same gameplay mod twice in a row, and when it comes to a new mapset I haven't tried before, I go with vanilla

>>4165201
not really, the audience that genuinely believes Gameplay Mods Are Boring Unless They Have Maps is very, very, very, very, very, very sizable

>>4165206
Try Colorful Hell, white/black enemies will still be tough enough.

DoomKrakken had a monster pack with a Guncaster patch that gave enemies similar weapons, which more amounted to randomly getting one-shotted by a random guy just because he had the Plasma Gun replacement.

>>4165206
Bratwurst and Colorful Hell are the only ones that come to mind.
Monster mods should be more of a thing.

>>4165221

Just most of them are on Doomworld.

>>4165223
>>4165224
Colorful hell has compatibility issues, the monsters dont drop any gold/money. Unless there's a patch out there I'm unaware of?

>>4165209

My general rule of thumb is never to play a mapset I haven't played before with a gameplay mod.
Play vanilla first, and then return with a gameplay mod.

>>4165229
Incompatible with Guncaster I mean.

There's an in-development monsters-only version of Project Brutality floating around. Anyone tried it out?

Www.mediafire.com/file/5mh2nc2reggo2tw/555_PB3_MonsOnly_Beta1.pk3

>>4165224
New monsters can end up being a ton of work, though. While I'd imagine the DECORATE side of things could be fairly simple for some replacements, even a single enemy has a ton of sprites to do. I don't know how tough it is to touch up sprites even when using a 3D model as a basis, but still.

>>4165229
Should be a patch within the thread, though for older versions of CH. Look around a bit more.

>>4165236
Found this post from 2015. Been skimming through and haven't found anything yet. I dont understand hasn't anyone ever thought of combining both wads before?

>>4165240
I have a patch from last year, found it in the Colorful Hell thread. Think it runs off version 0.87? It would be much easier if Pillowblaster just had an option to distribute gold by another means for the sake of easier compatibility.

>>4165242
Great! Thanks! If anyone is interested this is supposed to be the loading order:

Guncaster
Colourful Hell
GC Patch

Patch: https://mega.nz/#!YpJSkSQQ!JlOUtMKiFRQlss38xPnCGYBzBwmjrjOWZ-Tq2nkNyJs

Hey so in between working on stuff, let's do another one of these.
Going through Hellbound with Babel, along with the plasma SMG addon that comes with the mod, because fuck running out of ammo.

>>4165247
Oh. I forgot about this map, I always kept asking myself why I've never properly sat down and gave Hellbound a full run, and now I'm being reminded of that.
It doesn't help the spectres in this mod are particularly annoying and aggressive, they constantly make duplicates of themselves to fuck with you

>>4165249
and I forgot the screenshot.

>>4165247
>let's do another one of these.
for the sake of curiosity, which were the previous ones? are you the guy who did TNT:Revilution and Mutiny?

>>4165271
I went through TNT and Plutonia awhile back with Final Doomer. But I'm not sure if I want to do this, Babel and hellbound don't make for a good combo

>>4164658
>>4164663
I dunno. I never really saw the "fur" part of them, myself. Always looked like flesh to me.

Why is finding the right textures such a pain in the ass.

>>4165274
fair enough

>>4163908
there is a mod option for making the grenades a weapon pickup for every ammo

>>4164673
>explain the science of how it's electrical attack would work.

Quake is supposed to be Lovecraftian-esque, though. Having a scientific explanation behind how the monsters work would remove the Cosmic Horror aspect.

>>4165291
The best kind of horror is the kind that's just plausible enough to fuck with your head, though.

Also, the Thunderbolt is a thing. Never found in any base levels, only in the depths of the elder realms, has the same electrical effect as Shamblers.

>>4165309
>The best kind of horror is the kind that's just plausible enough to fuck with your head, though.

Thats a very different kind of horror, and doesn't belong in a game like Quake.

>>4165314
ok romero

>>4165314
Except for the Rotties, Grunts, and Enforcers, along with the Knights and Death Knights.

>>4165318
Considering you can manage to not only increase your jump height with rockets, but keep your legs intact while doing so, the whole "plausible enough" thing is already incompatible with Quake's lore.

>>4165320
Having humanoid enemies doesn't suddenly mean the game follows real world logic.

>>4165327
there's nothing otherworldly or lovecraftian about them, though
the soldiers are just other slipgate marines who had their heads mechanically fucked with (not even demonic possession like doom's) and the knights are medieval contract killers, not even undead ones

This is probably the most autistic question for this thread but
there's a way to use the H-doom demons in other wads? because fuck demons is cool and all but sometimes i want to sooth them while i'm rock hard

>>4165334
Are you sure the knights are just hired mercenaries? I'm not finding this info anywhere.

>>4165334
They're also the least scary enemies in Quake.

>>4165343
What

>>4165346
That one's my bad, sorry. The original descriptions in the manual for the Knight and Death Knight are short:
>Knight: Canned meat. Open 'er up and see if it's still fresh.
>Death Knight: This particular canned meat tends to open you up instead.

I got their descriptions confused with the extra Knight varieties added in Quoth, which is obviously not canon at all:
>Death Knight: You know him. You loathe him. This time he's brought along some of his buddies...
>Death Guard: Hard men who've had plenty of practice in the art of brutal murder. They don't have wealth or title or nice shiny armour, but they've been hired to do a job and don't much care that the job involves killing people.

>>4165348
>least scary
>implying there's much scarier than getting swarmed by a bunch of Knights from a dark corner you missed at mach 3 and you realize a split second too late that you still had the grenade launcher equipped when you clicked as they swing at your face

>>4165309
>The best kind of horror is the kind that's just plausible enough to fuck with your head, though.
that's not cosmic horror, which is deliberately left unexplained because we can't understand it

scientific investigation would go completely against it

>>4165103
>shoehead
Haha oh wow, it's one of the immense faggot artists from Starbound.

>>4165350
I'm more frightened by Vores and Shamblers, myself. Fiends can give me a jump at times, too.

How's MiniDoom?

>GZDoom doesn't have a flag/property to disable player crouching midgame or change crouch height
>Only thing I find about it is brushed off by ZDoom community's player empowerment boner on letting people crouch and jump if they want to
Fucking-

>>4165352
>scientific investigation would go completely against it
Well, you can use it to add to cosmic horror by having the research reveal that things actually make less sense, that some of the things we've managed to establish don't actually hold up at all once you investigate further, and some of the things you learn don't make any goddamn sense or leads to even more questions.

>>4164134
>Dropbox
>"hey we changed our policies lol"
>95% of most existing download links just died

No anon, dropbox is almost as bad as imageshack.

>>4165378
Welcome to Doom modding, where everyone is allowed to break your shit and then blame you when it doesn't work right.

>>4164993
>Ray Gun
>M I K E

Fuck yeah, I always enjoyed the standard galactic alphabet.

>>4165378
Yeah. It kind of baffles me that for an engine that should be about author freedom, it sure likes to give player freedom precedent over it. This unfortunately puts limits on what the author can do, and basically glorifies the player unwittingly breaking stuff.

>>4165421
I don't see why there can't be some of both.

>>4165404
>>4165421
Don't forget the lead developer or a source port and their buttbuddies can call your mod retarded, deny all "support" on any version, threaten you with shit and try to pressure you into changing your mod just for suggesting using an older, more stable version or making sure it only runs on a source port it's compatible with.

I would love to see a high quality vanilla map use linguortals just to see Graf have an aneurysm

>>4165442
If I ever make a gameplay mod, I'm going to have it use all the things that pisses Graf off.

So far the list contains a bundled old version of g/zdoom, modified options menus and intentional renderer exploits.

>>4165505
Oh, and a script that stops the mod from running on anything other than the bundled version.

>>4165505
He also hates silly names for shit, he got seriously butthurt in the source port naming thread on doomworld over that.

>>4165513
call it REKKM then

(wreck him)

>>4165442
Let's just say there's a reason BTSX E3 hasn't premiered yet.

>>4165530
because essel wants to make graf as assmad as possible?

>>4165442
>>4165530
Would be cool, but I highly doubt it. Beyond GZDoom refusing to support it, its also highly unfeasible to accomplish it on a serious map. The nodes need to be hacked into to get it working, and on top of that, the nodes would get overwritten every time the author updates the map with any changes.

>>4165556
More likely to see something like Impossible.

Pretty sure that one didn't use them anyway.

>>4165563
?

>>4165565
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/imposs

>>4165572
>immediate inescapable blood pits
Screw that noise.

Why did Kinsie changed his icon on the ZDoom forums to this?
What's going on?

If I had any idea that horrible bullshit like this was coming up I wouldn't have used up all my rockets and cells.

>>4165624
You fell down the one right at the start? Are you drunk or something?

There's only like two in the entire map.

>>4165654
>hell revealed
>complaining about traps
What did you expect?

>>4165654
What difficulty are you playing on?

>>4165661
>Are you drunk or something?
It's not an easy gap to notice and easily fallen into if you don't make the jump, can't feel bothered to try the rest of the map with such a bad first impression.

>>4165649
it's a cool icon, and I'd use it if I had nothing going on.

>>4165654
You can carefully grab the key without setting the trap off.

>>4164706
No hes talking about the lo-fi optical illusion where people think the red gore on the revenant looks like red pants. Hes comparing that to the appearance of shambler fur.

>>4165762
listen to this man, he knows his maps.

>>4165403
When did Dropbox do that major policy change? Also, there is still Stuff like IBM cloud, CX and Amazon's version of cloud storage.

>>4165876
>When did Dropbox do that major policy change

It was effective in March, was on the news post for a good while

>>4165403
This is why using any single service for mods is stupid.

Once Nexus dies a lot of modding for a lot of other games is going to be pretty fucked because nobody thought to keep shit elsewhere.

>>4165893
That's implying the mods worth saving wouldn't have been taken down already by their authors for arbitrary reasons.

>>4165923
or Nexus themselves for equally arbitrary reasons, or just fucking vanished because their system is shit and has been hacked a bunch of times already.

>>4165923
are you suggesting all modders are narcissistic prima donnas who will delete their work at the drop of a hat to spite their users believing this to be a punishment to deprive them of the perfect creations of a literal living god?

>>4165964
Don't give Graf ideas.

>>4165104
>keen wad
I always wanted this, but also always despised this. Fuck you for triggering the local superfaggot.

also while I appologize for being a flippant twat and insulting you over HDOOM which literally comes down to a taste thing...
>implying monstergirls aren't furry

Hey there, I'm looking to play some Duke Nukem 3D, can you recommend me some good recent usermaps?

>last level of second episode of Blood
>some new giant enemy spider
>beat the fuck out of it with napalm launcher
>go look for a boss
>cutscene starts playing

well a spider mastermind it wasn't

>>4165893
Wonder how large their entire catalog is...

>>4166113
I remember the same thing, thinking Shial would of been a problem on whatever Blood's UV is.

And it was the first time too. I didn't even realize it was the boss.

>>4166070
Now go and get into mortal combat with the "n-not monstrous enough!!" guy.

>>4165378
There are NoCrouch and AllowCrouch flags on a per-map basis in MAPINFO.

There is a "crouchfactor" double in the PlayerPawn zscript actor that could potentially be useful.

Morph player classes like the Chicken in Heretic can have crouch disabled with the PLAYERPAWN.CROUCHABLEMORPH flag.

It's difficult to give more recommendations without knowing what you want to do, but at least a few potentially-misguided suggestions is more useful than just throwing a big fatty strop.

>>4165649
http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/doomrpg/

thoughts on Chocolate Doom?

>>4166110
Not recent but play the Roch episode, some of the finest mapping I've seen

>>4166070
>I always wanted this, but also despised this
wha?

>monstergirls are furry
objectively false

also the Keen monster girls were just something i did for fun, not related to the actual mod/fangame/whatever.

>>4166143
In a word: Important.

>>4166120
>whatever Blood's UV is.

IMO, its not really wise to treat Blood's difficulties the same way as Doom, or even Duke. It does a lot more than just enemy/item placements.

>>4166143
Excellent at what it sets out to do: A vanilla.exe accurate source port.

Female nazis from RTCW and loli Keen for HDoom when?

>>4166165
i, too, have always wanted to fuck hitler

>>4166165
Basilissa guest appearance in HDoom when?

>>4166146
I fucking loved keen.
I fucking hated keen's platforming.

>Objectively false
They're basically "furry lite" for normies who don't want to admit they're degenerates. Little late for anybody browsing 4chan though.

>>4166127
Who the fuck is that?

>>4166169
he'd need to finish the sprites first
and frankly, i'd much rather that, desu

>>4166172
i'm glad that even in trying to supposedly improve yourself you're still willing to pick a fight over fetishes

>>4166176
You're the one that just said they were about to pick a fight, lad.

Besides, I'm not the one who made a fetishwad

>>4166176

Sometimes you just gotta let people know that you think they're masturbating wrong, I guess.

>>4165104
I'm going to edit all your hdoom sprites and make them impse types

anime cliches trigger me

>>4166182
>Sometimes you just gotta let people know that you think they're masturbating wrong
Fucking comedians in here.

>>4166181
Stop trying to stir shit.

Based.

>>4166190
I assure you I'm not.

>>4166186
Ah there you are! We were just talking about you.

>>4166169
maybe someday, depending on how Term feels about it. I'd probably have to do the angled rotations first - the sprites one only has front and side rotations due to the fact that Drifter is (mostly) a single player mod.

>>4166198
given his usual reactions towards lewd art/porn, i am 99% sure he wouldn't care
but it's always nice to make 100% sure, i guess

>>4166196
I'm not that anon, i just prefer my things more """realistic"""

>>4166204
S'fair. Once you're done editing the sprites, feel free to pass them around. It'd be nice to have an add-on to customize the game for people with different tastes.

>>4166208
>over 100 frames of angry imp rape

well, it ain't the weirdest thing made on this engine

>>4166186
That's kind of a weird thing to just blurt out to someone, but okay? You got a hell of a lot of work ahead of you.

Guten Tag, anons.

How long would this guy last in Doomguy's place?

>>4166217
E1M8 then dies. He's carrying what looks like two GAU-8s.

>>4166213
>That's kind of a weird thing to just blurt out to someone

On 4chan, of all places?

>>4166221
yes, even on 4chan

>>4166217
>can barely move
>one weapon

He'd get fucking wrecked.

anyone got the doom cover with the dog looking back on it?
asking for a friend