/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4157205

>"memed on'

I don't even know what that fucking means, but
I never seen Vectorman get any type of negativity thrown its way.

Vectorman is a well loved game.

I usually shit on western game design, but Vectorman was great.
One of my favorite western-developed Sega games.
Vectorman was the closest the Genesis got to competing with Donkey Kong Country in terms of graphics, I think a lot of times it matches it.

>>4157205
Vectorman 1 and 2 are cool, but I'd like them 10 times more without the time limit.

>>4157205
Vectorman is a good game but the level design could be better. Some stages are really bland.

>>4157356
Donkey Kong only has the prerendered sprites going for it.

Vectorman beats ten kinds of shit out of it graphically.

vectorman is shit garbage

>>4157346
I guess an e-celeb must have shit on it or something? I never see people even talk about Vectorman to begin with.

>>4157389
I dunno, I'd give some edges to DKC, background layers are usually far more impressive and moody on DKC, same for character detail and animations (I mean, Vectorman is just a bunch of balls), but Vectorman has also a smooth as fuck animation, and bigger, more detailed big sprites than on DKC (like the red ship on the first level).
I think DKC series still take the cake for prerendered graphics, but vectorman is pretty close.

>>4157356
Dkc looks like ass though. It's just pixelated low res shitty looking poly models. Tons of games on G and SN look way better.

>>4157427
>It's just pixelated low res shitty looking poly models
Play on a CRT or at least an SD screen anon.

>>4157405
People in threads here shit on it a lot. That's what he meant

>>4157431
I've never bothered to emulate it so crt is the only way I saw the game. Maybe it's my hate for the rare style in general but it always looked terrible.

That said, animation aside Vectorman isn't very good looking either. Better but I don't love it.

>>4157434

Nah.

>>4157205
Have never seen anyone talk about Vectorman here. It never gets shit on. Fun game, though.

>>4157356
Both Vectorman games look gorgeous

>>4157452
Maybe we've been browsing /vr/ in alternate realities. I've seen it get a lot of shit around here and I didn't make the thread.

>>4157479
that's what I was saying

>>4157205
Have to take off the rose tinted glasses on this -- game was COOL as fuck from from the moment you see the BlueSky software logo and start playing and hear that Sega Genesis techno

But it seemed to have a difficulty spike and yeah like someone else said, the vibe and level design and atmosphere becomes redundant

7.5/10 Sega Genesis game and you SHOULD have it in your collection

>>4157356
>Vectorman was the closest the Genesis got to competing with Donkey Kong Country in terms of graphics, I think a lot of times it matches it.

Not even close, Vectorman is full of questionable color choices, vertical dither and very bad art as a whole.

Bubsy

>>4157489
>But it seemed to have a difficulty spike
What does this mean? Where is it?

>>4157405
DF Retro just shit on it today. And I think Game Sack has in the past as well? I like Vectorman, but it's very easy and has little replayability. Looks nice, though.

>>4157205
The original Sonic trilogy is actually really good, regardless of what some e-celeb fags think. In reality, I think all non-ninty platformers get too disrespected by newer generations

Outside of Sonic, the only Genesis games I have fond memories of are Vectorman and Lighting Force.

>>4157570
>I like Vectorman, but it's very easy and has little replayability.

Harder than DKC.

I wish more games got shit on by memers so I could buy them cheap.

>>4157686
I'd say DKC is harder, but for the wrong reasons (bad collision detection). Not that DKC's existence changes Vectorman's easy difficulty in any way.

>>4157518
It resembles Ballz 3D, I'm surprised people seem to like the graphics so much

>>4157570
2 was harder for me, am I alone on that?

>>4157710
>buying old games when emulators and flash carts exist
for what purpose

>>4157205
>Vectorman
6.5/10

>Vectorman 2
4/10


Still have a soft spot due to childhood nostalgia(especially V1) but overall they are "ok" games at best.

>>4157775
To not be a millennial shitter maybe.

>>4157801
Who are you trying to impress?

>>4157842
His mom

>>4157858
>Mom comes over to visit
>Sees game dungeon in the basement
>"W-wow son, I'm so im- um. Well, I love you."

>>4157801
if being a millennial means not being a good goy to reseller scumbags, then consider me a millennial

>>4157890
GenX also emulates these days.

>>4157789
What is it with sequels shitting the bed? Jim 2 wasn't as good as the first, either.

>>4157986
The Generation was ending and they had shorter development times.

>>4158005
>Generation was ending and they had shorter development times

That's what it feels like. Lots of filler levels and just not up to par when compared to the first.

>>4157356
not sure why people compare Vectorman to DKC when 3D Blast makes much more sense

>>4158115
cuz 3d blast is fuckin garbo and not a sidescroller

>>4157205
People hate Vectorman? Also dismissing opinions you dislike as memes is lame don't do that.

>>4157712
What the fuck? I've never lost a life due to the hitboxes in DKC.

Show me a gif of where this happened to you, anon.

>>4157570

>DF Retro just shit on it today.

Which means that soon /vr/ will hate it as well because /vr/ gets their opinions from e-celeb Youtubers.

>Vectorman 1
Bad art, bad color usage, decent gameplay, average level-design, really good use of effects.
:Vectorman 2
Terrible art, terrible color usage, decent gameplay, average level-design, few effects.

Vectorman 2 looks disgusting for a late-gen Genesis game.

>>4157713
Agree.

>>4158115
Because it's a isometric game, but indeed it makes more sense, at least from a visual standpoint. I don't like 3D Blast, but it's an example of pretty good pre-rendered graphics on the system. IMO, Genesis' palette works best with hard-shaded art (e.g. Beyond Oasis, Bubba 'n' Stix).

>>4158480
Except vr has been shitting on it for ages. Now ecelebs will be blamed for it though. Because everyone here seems obsessed with them one way or the other.

>>4158480
No if anything the opposite will happen to show they know better than common e-celebs. But this time I won't mind cause Vectorman is actually good in line Bubsy 3D and ET.

>>4158615
Stactic images doesn't look good. It shines in motion.
I could do the same thing saying Axelay doesn't look good.

>>4159251
Axelay looks stupid in the vertical stages and generic in the horizontal stages even in motion, though...

>>4159323
Axelay looks great, Vectorman looks great, you're just too accustomed to modern graphics, millennial kiddo.

>>4157205
This one.
People bitch about how it's different from the arcade original but forget it's a pretty good game in its own right.
Very fluid and challenging.
With nice ost too https://youtu.be/6r4YT2R7qaI

>>4159353
haha. stay mad you like retarded looking games, bro

>>4159714
>haha
Nice nervous laughter.

>>4159768
nice failed inferring of tone (:

>>4159806
Oh, you're still around.
>>>/v/

>>4159696
Well, anon. I'm pretty sure people who bought Sunset Riders wanted a close to the arcade experience.

Like people who bought pac-man for atari. Like people who bought street fighter for snes. Like people who bought final fight for snes. Like people who bought MK for the genesis.

Unless you were a clueless child that would be gifted games randomly by your parents.

>>4159835
I can see people being disappointed at the time... I probably would be.
But today I think we, being open minded, can appreciate it.

>>4159835
>street fighter for snes

That was an accurate port of World Warrior, right? WW has many issues, but I don't believe the SNES version made anything worse. I grew up on Turbo, and that seems to have arcade perfect gameplay.

So glad to see this gem mentioned here. Unfortunately I get my ass kicked every time I reach the second level...

>>4158115
>Vectorman
2D sidescrolling platformer with pre-rendered graphics
>DKC
2D sidescrolling platformer with pre-rendered graphics
>Sonic 3D Blast
3D isometric platformer. Were the sprites even pre-rendered?

Anyway, you're not bright.

>>4160392
>Were the sprites even pre-rendered?
Definitely.

3D blast came out too late, 96 right?
It's kind of impressive for the Genesis, but as other anon said the problem was the isometric gameplay, Vectorman is more similar to DKC.

>>4159835
Of course they wanted it. Everyone wanted arcade perfection at home, but no one actually expected it. No one who bought Sunset Riders for the Genesis expected it to be arcade perfect, unless they were just plain stupid and had never seen another arcade port. Were you even alive then?

>>4159835
If you actually knew about how games worked back then you'd know a 1:1 arcade conversion was extremely rare. Even ones that get hailed as doing it like Strider on the Genesis still have some changes made.

>>4159696
Don't post music from Professor G he uses some emulator that always fucks up the pitch. Here's a recording off the actual console.

https://youtu.be/Us6wKW5jBwc?t=55

>>4159835
>/vr/ is the most underage board there is
irony

>>4157986
EW 2 had all those gimmick levels

Also 3 Puppy Love levels. Oh god

>>4161237
Andy Asteroids really started to suck by the end as well though and the underwater level makes people spaz to this day. It was always pretty gimmicky. I think really EWJ was only ever semi-decent in terms of gameplay. But everyone gave it a pass because of how mind blowing it was design wise.

By the time of EWJ2 it didn't seem as new and exciting so the mediocre gameplay seems to come through more. At least that was my experience. Loved EWJ1 and played the hell out of it, even got so I could breeze through Down the Tubes. Then only rented the second one a few times and never even bothered to buy it. All the parts seemed there, but it just didn't seem like a ton of fun. It wasn't till years and discussions of hashing it out I finally realized what I think was going on with the series. Even now I replay EWJ every once in a while and it's like wearing an old shoe that I love, but take a step back and it's kind of weak. Heck, these days I just keep a savestate at the start of each level so I can basically just play through but skip the fucking asteroids.

>>4161237
>not liking Villi People
Anyway I also agree EWJ never had really great gameplay, it was fun because of the cool Jim animations, the atmosphere, the humor, the music, it's a great experience, but as a game, it's kind of irregular.
I honestly love both games, there's levels I love and hate in both.

>>4159696
I still like it but by all means it was a butchered game, pretty sure they didn't even fully use the console recources, which is a shame given that this is relatively late release title.

>>4161263
I use level skip cheat for both andy asteroids and the peter puppy bonus stages when I replay Jim.

>>4161643
I never see this game mentioned aside from that one guy here who occasionally pops up and swears on his life that it's better than Yoshi's Island.

>>4157205
I've played this game and it's shit. Genesis has nothing to offer except shit, with the exception of Sonic & Knuckles (the only good 2D Sonic game).

I tried to expand my library of Genesis titles by buying Dynamite Heddy, Kid Chameleon, Landstalker, Phantasy Star II, Shining games, Alien Soldier, Pulseman, etc (and of course Vectorman). All of these games are just absolute pure fucking trash. Makes me glad mom and dad bought an SNES instead of a Genesis desu.

>>4161727
What are your favorite SNES games?

>>4161643
Nah, Plok's only outstanding qualities are its music and maybe its colorful graphics. The game itself is sub-par and at times frustrating. This is coming from someone who kinda enjoys the game.

>>4161957
He's probably a JRPGfag. (Yes, I know he listed PSII, but it's not a very good JRPG, he should've gotten PSIV instead, or a Sega CD for the Lunars).

>>4161957
Glad you asked, Anon!

>Secret of Mana
>Seiken Densetsu 3
>Terranigma
>EVO
>Mega Man X
>Mega Man X2
>Mega Man X3
>Mega Man 8
>Donkey Kong Country
>Donkey Kong Country 2
>Donkey Kong Country 3
>Chrono Trigger
>Kirby Super Star Deluxe
>Super Mario World
>Super Mario RPG
>Zelda: Link to the Past
>Secret of Evermore
>Super Metroid
>Lufia II
>Breath of Fire II

desu I don't think I'd be able to fit it all because there was just too many good games on that platform. It's insane how much more superior SNES' catalogue was in contrast to Genesis'. I just can't stress enough how glad I was that mom and dad bought an SNES. Had they been shilled by Genesis Ads, I would have grown up with trash.

>>4161998
>he should have gotten PSIV instead
Doesn't make sense to play a game that has predecessors. Even if they're not in the same story, going back to a predecessor means playing a mechanically worse game. Wouldn't be mechanically worse if the franchise was played by release order.

>>4161092
I love how this still sounds better than the arcade one.

>>4161643

It's good, but being a good platformer on the SNES is like being a good fighting game on the Neo Geo. It's not enough to be better than Zool or Bubsy.

>>4161643

It's good, but being a good platformer on the SNES is like being a good fighting game on the Neo Geo. There's so many 10/10 classics to choose from that Plok had to aim a bit higher than "good".

>>4162203
>Doesn't make sense to play a game that has predecessors. Even if they're not in the same story, going back to a predecessor means playing a mechanically worse game. Wouldn't be mechanically worse if the franchise was played by release order.

That's a really weird attitude to have. And the result is that you passed over the best rpg on the system because you played one of the worst.

>>4162381
Not necessarily, as I'm the type of person to play it through completion. If PSIV is better, I'll endure the trash before it.

>>4162480
Well if you're talking about playing through games you self describe as "pure fucking trash" just to get to a game you may or may not like more is pretty damn weird in my book.

I would recommend some other games, but I don't like a lot of the ones on your list either and hated Sonic and Knuckles so we probably wouldn't have much overlap anyways.

>>4161727
>Genesis has nothing to offer except shitt, with the exception of Sonic & Knuckles

>>4162203
>It's insane how much more superior SNES' catalogue was in contrast to Genesis'

Yeah and it's even more insane how Nintendo went full retard in the next gen and the polar opposite happened. N64 became like Genesis, faster CPU but much smaller library and uglier graphics while the PSX became the SNES of that generation, slower CPU but much better game library and better looking games.

>>4163348
>better looking games

bitch please

>people replying to shitty bait

>>4162203
That's the most pleb list of games ive ever seen.

>>4163348
N64 looks great if you disable anti-aliasing and remove the VI blur. Quit being a fucking faggot.

>>4164242
You just confirmed that you have shit taste.

>>4162507
Just do it anyway.

>>4164274
It's a list of the most popular of the most popular. It's like you have the most mainstream milktoast taste possible.

>>4164279
Alright I may as well, take these all with a grain of salt though since our tastes seem to differ a fair bit. I like a lot Secret of Mana, Sieken 3, Evo and Supermetroid off your list. LttP, Terranigma, Lufia and BoF2 were okay but didn't love them. Mega Man I haven't bothered with since NES, Mario has never done it for me and DKC is of no interest at all. So all that said..

First suggestion is always Ecco the Dolphin. It's not for everyone, but is excellently made and there's nothing else quite like it so I think it's worth everyone trying.

Second is Phantasy Star IV, but I honestly recommend skipping right to it. PS1 is quite good, but 2 I found dull and 3 almost seems like a different series.

Next, Beyond Oasis is like a mix between a brawler and an action adventure/rpg. You get elemental spirits like SoM but use them to solve puzzles. Lots of fighting and a fun combat system.

Ristar, I recommend more for you than because I like it. I don't usually care for straight platformers, but it was decent fun.

Ranger-X is a mecha action game with some cool mechanics like a vehicle that travels along with you, and a solar recharge mechanic used in interesting ways like a forest level where you fly above the trees to get sun.

Comix Zone is an action beat em up game with some environmental puzzles, it has great fighting, branching levels and a really awesome gimmick/aesthetic.

Crusader of Centy I semi recommend. I can't say I loved it, but I can't say I loved Terranigma either. So take that as you will.

Not sure what else to recommend given our tastes. Doesn't look like you'd be into Gaiares or Herzog Zwei or Toejam and Earl etc. Who knows though.

>>4163348
>doesnt like the N64 or the Genesis
Does your mom know your gay?

Vectorman is a decent enough game.

Vectorman II is extremely broken with enemies that don't appear until they're right on top of you, and strangely inconsistent level-design where some levels can be completed in 20 seconds while others take forever.

>>4157570
Which video?

>>4166512
>Suggesting Ecco first

I love the genesis but would never recommend Ecco to a skeptic. Gameplay is the definition of hit or miss, and personally, it's a big miss.

>>4162203
Haha that has to be the most "i'm a faggy man infant" list of games i've ever seen, i bet you were that goober cunt kid at school to.

>>4157789
This right here. Vectorman looks great, but the games are only mediocre.

>>4167012
Well I don't expect him to like any of those games anyways. I don't really expect anything out of him given the way he's been talking, but I might as well.

And I stand by it, it's so unique that even though it doesn't appeal to a lot of people, it's still a very well made game that's worth anyone interested in the Genesis library at least tryinv.

I don't know what you mean by the gameplay being the definition of hit and miss, but I'm guessing you're one who didn't care for it. Which is cool, but at least you tried it.